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Subject: To be 100% clear- they used a final ballot where they write the name based on who they want to win Miss America. It’s not longer based on points then. Correct?


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Date Posted: 03:40:58 01/16/24 Tue
In reply to: Owner/Moderator 's message, "I think overall, it is better to have the winner as the one with the most points at the end of the night. I realize the rationale is that you don't want to get someone who is "not good for the job" but I think ranking is difficult because different judges with different opinions are going to net different results. It is a "job" these days but I think whoever scores the most points already demonstrates that they have qualities that get them noticed. If you can express your charisma without words I think you would be a great Miss America." on 14:27:31 01/15/24 Mon


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: The history of final ballot (vote of the heart) stems in racism. It was a way to ensure a white girl was picked (this was 50/60 years ago). It was removed for a while and brought back with Gretchen. Each judge ranks the girl in the order they see fit: Miss State X-1st; State L-2nd etc. 1st gets 10 points, 5th gets 1..each girl is totalled and the highest score wins. So it is mathmatically possible for someone to win w/o getting 1st from each judge. This panel had to do final ballot, did they do it this way, or as suggested - just write their winner on a piece of paper,,,who knows


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