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Subject: This year, prelim and finals are judged by the same panel. Any thoughts on the same panel being used for prelim and finals? Author: No name [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 09:34:53 12/15/22 Thu In reply to: Owner/Moderator 's message, "SOME THOUGHTS AFTER THIS WEEK" on 21:50:44 12/14/22 Wed [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: I think there are plus and minuses for both ways. The plus for this is that they get to know the contestants and probably have a better idea than a separate panel who has those Miss America qualities. more inside Author: Owner/Moderator [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:43:59 12/15/22 Thu The minus with this is that they may have their minds made up before the final night of competition and other contestants might not have the opportunity to win. The plus with a separate panel is that the possible biases of the preliminary panel will not be in place. You can get a more well-rounded winner who appeals to a variety of people. The drawback is what author William Goldman described in his book Hype and Glory. He was on a final night panel who selected Gretchen Carlson, and he felt that she was not deserving of the title. It did come out afterwards that had the preliminary panel stayed in place that there would have been a different winner. If you look back on each type of panel they picked good and bad winners. So, it's hard to say that one stands out. I personally am a fan of the two panel system just because there is a broader appeal for the winner.

[> [> [> Subject: William Goldman was on the preliminary panel, not the final night panel. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:41:11 12/15/22 Thu

[> [> [> [> Subject: no he was not..Trevor Booker is/was the only make judge Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:47:48 12/15/22 Thu

[> [> [> [> Subject: I have the book somewhere I will have to go back and look. That would make sense though, because he mentioned finding Gretchen's interview question offensive. She said, "I am from the Midwest, where people still have values." He said it struck him poorly because people had values in other areas of the country. Author: Owner/Moderator [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:49:00 12/15/22 Thu