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Date Posted: 14:47:32 12/16/21 Thu
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's message, "EXPLANTION ON JUDGING" on 13:17:13 12/16/21 Thu
>Happy Miss America Day!
>
>It has been a rough week for a lot of us, but just for
>today, I am putting all of the problems of this week
>aside and am going to enjoy the day. I am looking
>forward to the competition tonight. In around 9 hours
>we will have a new Miss America! I am doing this post
>first because there are a lot of things to consider
>with judging, particularly this year.
>
>I want to remind everyone of a few things. First, if
>your favorite does not make the top 10, it is not
>likely an indictment on them. I said it in 2019 and
>will say it again. This is not normal judging. And
>this year, it was even worse because the "red carpet"
>competition really couldn't be judged. The
>contestants had a microphone in their hands and were
>approaching the judges to answer a question. They did
>not get to model their gowns. So essentially, you are
>being judged on talent and speaking. You do not have
>anything else. What you had to do was set yourself
>apart from the people in your group, essentially.
>This week, there was a lot of congestion. There were
>a lot of effective speakers, and they might have been
>average in talent. So, you are going to have to
>really stand out. Second, it is harder to judge on
>two nights because you have a tendency to zone out. I
>know I did watching the preliminaries. It all kind of
>runs together. You may be wowed by someone if you
>didn't have one right after the other. So, all of
>these things together are going to potentially affect
>results.
>
>In regard to this judging panel, they were young and
>modern. I will say more about them when the top 10
>results actually shake out, but I was actually
>encouraged by this judging panel. I really do not
>think that old, stodgy pageantry is going to fly with
>them. I think they will pick more interesting, modern
>young women. I mentioned this before, but this
>particular panel seemed to award higher scores to
>later contestants. Could we see the majority of the
>contestants from later slots in their group? It is
>very important to know that preliminary wins do not
>necessarily equate to a slot in the top 10. But, that
>was in years past. We only have one year to compare
>this new judging to. Victoria Hill was a double
>preliminary winner, Camille won talent and won, and
>Jade Glebs made the top 15. There is only a top 10
>this year, and we do not know who was 8-15 in 2019.
>So, there are a lot of things we really do not know
>about this judging, and we do not have a lot to draw
>on.
>
>Tonight we are only going to have 3 judges. I was not
>really a fan of it in 2019 and I am not a fan of it
>now. To clarify-I really do not mind a panel of all
>former Miss Americas judging if there is not a
>daughter of a former Miss America competing. I am not
>going to litigate the Shindle situation once again,
>but any question of ethics need to be avoided.
>Especially now. That being said, I am really not sure
>that VA will make the top 10, anyway. I do not have
>her as a contender to win the crown, either. Her
>talent was too weak. All of this aside, having only 3
>judges are going to skew any kind of result. One
>judge CAN make a difference. Debbye judged Miss
>America before, Heather and Katie have not. I would
>have preferred to see someone who had previous judging
>experience. There is a lot of chatter and rumors
>about when these judges were actually asked. We will
>never really know for sure. But, we are dealing with
>what we have right now. I am sure Debbye will be the
>head judge.
>
>So, we will have a lot of wild cards and
>unpredictability tonight. It might make it a lot of
>fun! I am thinking back to 2019 and truthfully, I did
>not have CT or MO in the top 5. There is always one
>surprise who moves along every year, and this should
>be no exception. I "got" that OK was in the top 5 but
>I thought some in the top 7 were stronger. My pick
>was Victoria Hill to win, and she was first runner-up.
> This year, and I will put this in my next post, is
>really not clear cut to me.
>
>Prediction post next!
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