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Subject: Alernate explanations are easy to create Author: Ben [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 07/14/04 4:15pm In reply to: Wade A. Tisthammer 's message, "Is he?" on 07/14/04 3:47pm >>It's not my "uncle," no. But there is no doubt it is >>related to me. Darwin first figured it out, and then >>modern science, particularly DNA comparison, has >>verified it. > >Has it? We've found similarities to be sure. But >there are different interpretations of the data here. >One alternate explanation: similar biological >structures (as DNA) for similar functions. A TI-85 >and a TI-86 graphing calculator have numerous >similarities. Nonetheless, that doesn't imply that >they evolved from a common ancestor. Here's another alternate explanation: maybe an apple fell from a tree and, when it hit the ground, instantly turned into an ape. And maybe, in another place, an orange fell, but the orange turned into a human when it hit the ground. Alternate explanations are easy to find, but science looks for the _most likely_ scenario, and tries to see where the data most obviously point. As we've gone over and over on this board, our common ancestry with apes is supported by various branches of science, and is by far the best interpretation of the evidence as a whole. Nothing else even comes close. So you can think that an invisible creator created all these things with the _appearance_ of being related to each other when they actually aren't, and I can go on thinking that apples and oranges produce apes and humans, but meanwhile science will go on accepting what the evidence seems to say most obviously without jumping to either divine intervention or apple/orange tree intervention. Ben [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date They sure are. Wade A. Tisthammer 07/14/04 5:24pm Damoclese rides again -- Damoclese, 07/14/04 8:04pm Welcome back Kemosabe -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 07/15/04 9:31pm Design? -- Damoclese, 07/16/04 8:18am Disputable points -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 08/12/04 5:38pm I don't think that -- Ben, 07/15/04 12:57am Okay. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 07/15/04 10:11pm That's simply science -- Damoclese, 07/16/04 8:31am You old softy. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 08/12/04 5:43pm Harding Place -- Damoclese, 08/15/04 11:56am A rock...quite a bit more stable than hominid fossils -- Wade A. Tisthamjmer, 09/13/04 12:09am More on Deceptive Design Theory -- Ben, 07/16/04 3:05pm What's deceptive about it? -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 08/12/04 5:57pm here's why -- Damoclese, 08/15/04 7:21pm That's not what I was referring to -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 09/12/04 11:51pm And a little more -- Damoclese, 07/18/04 7:08pm And more -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 08/12/04 6:04pm When were the laws of Mathematics started? And why? And how? -- QUITTNER, 08/13/04 1:30pm reality check -- Duane, 08/23/04 1:05am Re: reality check -- QUITTNER, 08/30/04 12:55pm Duane -- grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....., 08/31/04 7:25am Interesting "explanations" -- QUITTNER, 08/31/04 1:37pm whoops... -- Duane, 08/31/04 10:25pm Interesting explanations -- QUITTNER, 09/ 3/04 2:28pm Why post at all? -- Ben, 09/ 3/04 7:10pm I agree -- Duane, 09/ 7/04 7:51am ...of little substance -- Damoclese, 08/15/04 12:01pm Ingoring the substance -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 09/13/04 12:17am Hitting the Bottle -- Damoclese, 09/13/04 1:23am Of substance -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 09/14/04 3:48pm Substance abuse -- Damoclese, 09/14/04 10:29pm One quick comment -- Duane, 09/13/04 10:20am One quick reply -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 09/14/04 4:06pm A strange admission... -- Duane, 09/14/04 4:59pm