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Subject: Why should boys be stripped?


Author:
spelvin
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Date Posted: 07:21:05 11/20/25 Thu
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Yes, I know the usual reasons for boys’ nudity, so I shall dispense with them real quick:

----Girls are future mommies, so they need to learn what boys look like.
----Boys are active and clothes inhibit activity.
----Boys can breathe air through the pores in their skin.
----Boys need a good sun tan.
----The water filters got clogged with boys’ swimsuits, but magically distinguished between boys’ swimsuits and girls’ swimsuits.

But here are a couple of reasons which do not get mentioned very often:

REASON NUMBER ONE: Boys need to go nude as a practice in courage.

Women’s lib or no women’s lib, the fact remains that males and females did not evolve the same.
Males are expected to take risks. Women aren’t.
Men take risks when they go on the athletic field, when they fight on the battlefield, when they go into business, and when they approach women to whom they are attracted.
Women, on the other hand, are expected to be pretty wallflowers.

This is why a girl needs to be protected and a boy should not.
A boy needs to go nude in public, taking the risk of who is going to see him and how people are going to react.
If people react favorably, that should do wonders to his self-image.
I doubt if any boy ever got traumatized by having to stand on the weiners’ box—I mean the winners’ box.
I doubt if any boy soccer champion ever got traumatized by having to pose naked in a German magazine.

REASON NUMBER TWO: Boys need to go nude so they could be admired.

Although the Westermarck effect prevents children raised together from feeling sexually attracted to each other,
it apparently does not prevent older sisters from regarding their younger brothers as cute when their younger brothers are nude.
16-year-old Lisa (2019, Voy 223876) thought his 11-year-old brother looked cute with no clothes on.
Likewise 15-year-old Sarah (2019, Voy 223876) with a 13-year-old brother and 14-year-old Linda (2019, Voy 223876) with a 13-year-old brother.
Betcha the children’s parents felt the same way.

Instead of being regarded as cute, the older boys are regarded as manly.
Here is what a Victorian mother observed on the beach (Traveller’s Monthly Journal 1882):

“Whilst the older of these boys that disport themselves in the absolute may still be considered children, the hint of their approach to the threshold of manhood sometimes draws attention from the more indelicate of the ladies that are observed surreptitiously lifting their opera glasses to get a closer view of these boys as they gambol about naked, no doubt to better admire their beautiful slender forms in all their splendid details.”

Cathy (2022, Voy 206801) had a brother who participated in nude swim meets. Since Cathy found the swim meets exciting,
she asked her mother for her feelings:

“She smiled and said that she and the other moms enjoyed seeing them naked and talked about how beautiful they looked naked and how exciting it was to see them. After that we often talked about which boys had the best body and all the different shapes and sizes of their penises. She said it was our secret.”

During a nude swim practice, Jon (2021, Voy 206801) asked a female supervisor why boys had to swim nude. According to Jon, “She told me frankly that she enjoyed seeing us naked and the girls too.” Jon responded that he also enjoyed the situation.

Richard (2017, dead link) applied to a Boy Scout camp in the 60’s. All the boys assembled in one large room for a physical exam, first in their underwear, then completely nude. This was all in the clear view of their mommies and their siblings.
Richard noticed that the mothers found excuses to linger until the end of the show. “We were paraded naked in front of women for their pleasure and sexual fantasies. Greatest nude show on earth.”

I have only one objection to all this: the adults and older siblings have not always been honest about their feelings.
Consequently, the boys have sometimes grown up not realizing how beautiful their bodies were.

Ron (2020, Voy 223876) swam nude during the times that boys were expected to swim nude, but unfortunately, at the time, “we thought that girls only saw us as funny when we were naked.”
It was only later, at the age of 14, that he realized that his body was beautiful.

Ukrainian prince Henryk Ludwick Lubomirski (1777–1850) was designated as “the most beautiful boy in the world.” (Andrew Hopkins Art 2010) For artists both male and female, he posed nude, clothed, and all points in between.
Betcha he never thought nudity was shameful.

We should dispense with naked punishment, bare-bottom spankings, and all other implications that nudity is a matter of contempt.
Instead, we should ask a boy to take his clothes off whenever we would like to take a good look.
If the boy asks why, tell him the truth.
A younger child might not take offense at such a request.
Younger children also think nude people are beautiful.
I know this because I have had preschool and primary school children ask me to show.
I have also had preschool and primary school children ask me to look.
The worldwide panic over sexual abuse benefits children in that it protects children from sexual abuse.
But it hurts children in that it shelters them from corporeal admiration.
Nudity and sex are two different things.

All children—or at least all boys—need to painted, sculpted, photographed, and shown to friends and neighbors with or without clothes.
And not just Ukranian princes.

Andrew Hopkins Art. 2010. Prince Henryk Ludwick Lubomirski the most beautiful boy in the world. http://andrewhopkinsart.blogspot.com/2010/10/prince-henryk-ludwick-lubomirski-most.html
Traveller’s Monthly Journal. 1882. On favoring traditional sea-bathing. (July).
https://sites.google.com/site/historicarchives4maleswimming/home

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Ellen
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Date Posted: 08:34:34 11/20/25 Thu
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I definitely agree that boys should be admired and naked, I grew up with two brothers who were raised nude at almost all times and I always enjoyed seeing everything they had. They would play around with eachother, completely oblivious to their penises wobbling and bouncing around but I would closely watch and appreciate every little movement. They would bend over and I would see their penis and balls hang down, they were completely focused on whatever game they were playing but I would be completely focused on how their beautiful boy parts moved.

I especially loved knowing that I could see every bit of them but they wouldn’t ever see me at all!

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Date Posted: 15:59:22 11/21/25 Fri
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I was one of those boys raised naked started. My best friend was a girl growing up and her younger brother was being raised nude like your brothers were. Since we were together always growing up I was told to go nude too at their house and then mine too. We would be naked the whole summer togther. Its is hard to believe by todays standards but we would still ride bikes and play outside in remote dirt/gravel road with few people around. There was a remote fine sand beach we woul even walk to in summer naked. The girl would swim naked but was often in tshirt and shorts outside and sometimes just wear panties inside.

Once in awhile we were taken to beach nearby and played with other boys and girls. Back then maybe third or half boys went naked. There was no stigma for boys to do this and I new few others that did it too.

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Abhi
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Date Posted: 20:13:21 11/21/25 Fri
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The same happened to me in India back in the 90s. In the rural countryside, we boys were totally naked, roaming around and playing in the muddy fields. Later bathed in the river. Boyes from age 8 to 11. No one cared.

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Ellen
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Date Posted: 22:08:32 11/21/25 Fri
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Your best friend was very lucky to have a brother and male best friend who were raised nude! I assure you she appreciated observing both you and her brother all the times you were naked around her! I think every girl should have the opportunity to be around naked boys growing up and every boy should have the opportunity to be naked around girls

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Sean
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Date Posted: 04:04:33 11/22/25 Sat
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The girls mother said the same thing that it was healthy for boys to grow up this way. The girl wanted to playmate days and would get grumpy if we did not play all the time. If we walked road and path to beach we would see other boys do same thing so never thought much of it back then, some in teens and some older. We would pee and get erections in front of her all the time.

One park nearby was tolerant of hippies and they let kids play naked way back then, except boys and girls did it.

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Date Posted: 05:27:20 11/22/25 Sat
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Sean, you wrote,
"We would . . . get erections in front of her all the time."

This may be a nosy question,
but I'm curious:
What could have given you an erection if she saw you naked all the time anyway?

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spelvin (to Ellen)
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Date Posted: 08:02:48 12/15/25 Mon
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Hello, Ellen!

This is in response to your statement that "every girl should have the opportunity to be around naked boys growing up and every boy should have the opportunity to be naked around girls."

In these days of entitlements,
I think childhood nudity should be listed as an entitlement.
Childhood nudity seems to be commonly regarded as a nice embellishment,
but this is the first time I've heard anyone else say that it is an essential.

I feel very much deprived by not having any memories of swimming with girls naked, playing games with girls naked, talking with girls naked, studying with girls naked, wrestling with girls naked, teasing with girls naked, and hugging and smooching with girls naked.
I think every adult needs such memories.

I think the parents of a boy have the responsibility of making sure plenty of people get to see the boy nude.
When the parents are out for the evening and hiring a babysitter, they should make sure the child is naked "so the babysitter can see how nice you look."
When visitors are expected, they should make sure the child is naked "so the visitors can see how nice you look."
If a boy expresses a crush on a girl his own age, the parents should arrange a play date between the two and make sure the boy is naked they should make sure the child is naked "so she can see how nice you look."
Too many boys grow up not realizing how nice they look with no clothes on.
Boys need to be told, and they need to be constantly reminded.

Schools and child care centers tend to many needs besides reading and writing and 'rithmetic.
They can attend to this need by not requiring children to attend the school or center with clothes on.

Parents of a 3-year-old boy can help by taking their child to the center naked as soon as he is out of diapers.
That way, the child has his first taste of public nudity before he has a chance to develop modesty.
If enough parents do this over a long enough period of time, more and more boys will develop modesty later and later until their modesty disappears completely.

Eventually, elementary school boys, then middle school boys, then high school boys, will want to attend school naked.

You may say, "What about Title IX? You can't make a rule for one gender that you don't make for the other."
You don't have to.
Just write a rule that says that all children are ALLOWED to attend school naked.
In effect, you will get about the same thing.
More boys than girls will want to go to school naked.
As for the children who DON'T want to go to school naked,
more mothers of boys than mothers of girls will make their children go to school naked.
As for the boys who still go to school with clothes on,
they will get ribbed by both the boys and the girls until they also comply.
Before you know it, every class will have 14 girls wearing the latest style sharing their desks with 14 boys with naked penises.

Take a look at any clothing optional setting that preaches gender equality.
You will see that the line between naturism and CFNM is paper thin.

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scamptoo
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Date Posted: 10:29:40 12/15/25 Mon
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>Hello, Ellen!
>
>This is in response to your statement that "every girl
>should have the opportunity to be around naked boys
>growing up and every boy should have the opportunity
>to be naked around girls."
>
>In these days of entitlements,
>I think childhood nudity should be listed as an
>entitlement.
>Childhood nudity seems to be commonly regarded as a
>nice embellishment,
>but this is the first time I've heard anyone else say
>that it is an essential.
>
>I feel very much deprived by not having any memories
>of swimming with girls naked, playing games with girls
>naked, talking with girls naked, studying with girls
>naked, wrestling with girls naked, teasing with girls
>naked, and hugging and smooching with girls naked.
>I think every adult needs such memories.
>
>I think the parents of a boy have the responsibility
>of making sure plenty of people get to see the boy
>nude.
>When the parents are out for the evening and hiring a
>babysitter, they should make sure the child is naked
>"so the babysitter can see how nice you look."
>When visitors are expected, they should make sure the
>child is naked "so the visitors can see how nice you
>look."
>If a boy expresses a crush on a girl his own age, the
>parents should arrange a play date between the two and
>make sure the boy is naked they should make sure the
>child is naked "so she can see how nice you look."
>Too many boys grow up not realizing how nice they look
>with no clothes on.
>Boys need to be told, and they need to be constantly
>reminded.
>
>Schools and child care centers tend to many needs
>besides reading and writing and 'rithmetic.
>They can attend to this need by not requiring children
>to attend the school or center with clothes on.
>
>Parents of a 3-year-old boy can help by taking their
>child to the center naked as soon as he is out of
>diapers.
>That way, the child has his first taste of public
>nudity before he has a chance to develop modesty.
>If enough parents do this over a long enough period of
>time, more and more boys will develop modesty later
>and later until their modesty disappears completely.
>
>Eventually, elementary school boys, then middle school
>boys, then high school boys, will want to attend
>school naked.
>
>You may say, "What about Title IX? You can't make a
>rule for one gender that you don't make for the other."
>You don't have to.
>Just write a rule that says that all children are
>ALLOWED to attend school naked.
>In effect, you will get about the same thing.
>More boys than girls will want to go to school naked.
>As for the children who DON'T want to go to school
>naked,
>more mothers of boys than mothers of girls will make
>their children go to school naked.
>As for the boys who still go to school with clothes on,
>they will get ribbed by both the boys and the girls
>until they also comply.
>Before you know it, every class will have 14 girls
>wearing the latest style sharing their desks with 14
>boys with naked penises.
>
>Take a look at any clothing optional setting that
>preaches gender equality.
>You will see that the line between naturism and CFNM
>is paper thin.

Nice read. Very interesting take on boy nudity.

.

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Ellen
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Date Posted: 14:39:13 12/20/25 Sat
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I definitely think that it’s a necessity both for boys and girls to grow up in a cfnm environment! It keeps boys more well behaved, and evens the playing field with girls a bit. I know I was more motivated to play with boys when they were naked and so were lots of other girls my age. Getting to see my brothers naked all the time really motivated me to spend time with them, playing, talking, hanging out, play wrestling, etc. I agree that as many parents of boys as possible should start enforcing nudity right when they’re out of diapers until they don’t even want to wear clothes anymore just like my brothers.

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spelvin
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Date Posted: 17:49:31 12/20/25 Sat
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Thank you, Ellen.
Your message was very valuable to me.
I have been somewhat unsure of advocating a CFNM environment
because I was afraid that it would cause the boys to go off in one corner
while the girls go off in another corner.
That is what we have seen in photographs of the beach in Victorian times.
Maybe I’m not too radical in proposing CFNM education.
I have wanted to advocate placing each pair of boys and each pair of girls in a desk in the classroom.
That way, the boys and girls could get to learn something about girls and boys, respectively,
but without putting any of the children in an awkward position.
Boys and girls could also be paired for swimming, with one partner practicing floating or stroking
while the other partner offers support.
Male alumni of Red Cross swimming class say that it was embarrassing for a boy to practice floating
while everyone is looking at his penis sticking up out of the water.
They also say that it is was embarrassing to practice kicking and stroking with the teacher holding on to his package.
In a partner system, it might be less traumatic.
They could also be paired for partner dancing, judo, karate, and other activities.
With the boys nude, of course.

A couple of items aroused my curiosity, however.
“It keeps boys more well behaved.”
Why is that?
I would like to think it is NOT because the boys are embarrassed and are afraid to call attention to themselves.
I have a few other explanations, but first, I would like to hear your explanation.

“It evens the playing field.”
What do you mean by that?
Do you think boys are favored through the textile status quo?
Possibly because of their academic ability?
Or do you think girls are favored?
Possibly because of being the teachers’ pets?
And which gender do you think gains through CFNM?
The girls getting to look? Or the boys getting to show?
“I know I was more motivated to play with boys when they were naked and so were lots
of other girls my age.”
Why was that?
I have two hypotheses:
One is that they looked more attractive that way.
The other is that there were no clothes to create a barrier between you and the boys.
Am I right on either of these guesses?

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Ellen
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Date Posted: 12:58:41 12/21/25 Sun
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boys that aren’t used to being naked (like friends my brothers brought over) would definitely be better behaved because they don’t want to draw attention to themselves, but for the boys that are used to it it keeps them well behaved because their nudity is a reminder of their immaturity compared to girls which would make them try and behave better, clothes can also make boys feel trapped and so they act out in response to feeling like they have a lack of freedom, this is what my brothers have told me about their nudity.

I think cfnm also evens the playing field because of the maturity I mentioned above. Clothes represent maturity while nudity represents freedom. Boys are less mature and more free growing up than girls are, and letting boys be clothed can make them disrespectful towards girls because they don’t see their higher maturity compared to them. Keeping them naked reminds them that they’re less mature and they end up a lot nicer to the girls around them. From my perspective I think girls gain more from cfnm but I might be biased, I just get the advantage of seeing naked boys but I don’t experience the gain in freedom boys have from being naked and showing themselves around, so maybe from a boy’s perspective it’s better for them

Your two hypotheses are definitely correct I would love to play with so many different boys so I could see every bit of them, their bare chests, backs, legs, butts, and of course penises and balls. Especially seeing them casually moving around while playing, without a care in the world, I also loved playing with my brothers because I would become incredibly familiar with every part of them, more than any other boy. But also boy’s lack of clothes made them more pleasant to be around, they felt more approachable and definitely respected girls more, so I think you’re right in both ways there

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Willy to Ellen
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Date Posted: 18:14:12 12/21/25 Sun
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Hi Ellen I agree.I was very respectful towards girls.Being nude highlighted this and made me very aware of my behavior towards girls.As far as maturely goes yes even the younger girls seemed much more mature then us boys.I think perhaps because I couldn't help but feel like a little boy while nude.

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spelvin
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Date Posted: 19:41:35 12/21/25 Sun
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Hello, Willy!

Of all the contributors whom I remember from 206801 and 223876, you are the one whom I least expected to say that you felt immature when you were nude.
I got the impression that your feelings were pure and unamalgamated pride.

Excuse me while I express a couple of more theories:

I betcha the way boys behave when they’re nude in the presence of girls is the way all boys behaved in the presence of girls before our species introduced the despicable custom known as clothes.
When anything artificial is introduced into our lives,
there is no telling what instincts are getting distorted or suppressed.

I also imagine that the boy’s genital display emphasizes his status as a male,
and thus emphasizes his role in relation to girls.
I have read a book which claimed that when puberty sets in,
a boy becomes attracted to whichever gender is opposite the gender with which he identifies.
That is why we often see a boy who plays with girls, dolls, and dollhouses all through childhood and turns gay the minute puberty sets in.

Yet many of us (notably myself) grow up with a handicap because we didn’t have enough experiences with girls early enough.
If I were raising a boy, I would make sure he got plenty of heterosexual experiences.
Any time he expressed a crush on a girl classmate,
I would arrange a playdate with that girl classmate,
along with one or two more boys and one or two more girls so no one would feel awkward---
but under only one condition: the boy will be nude the whole time.

Hello, Ellen!

You are very much like a girl in a novel which I recently wrote.
The novel takes place in Mrs. Stewart’s English class.
The first lesson is on parts of speech.
One of the girls volunteers one of the boys to pose nude the first three days,
thereby demonstrating that the word “nude” could be used as a noun, an adjective, and an adverb.
The class arranges its curriculum around the holidays.
On Halloween, the children go trick-or-treating.
To demonstrate homonyms, the girls wear bear costumes while the boys go bare.

When the class returns from winter break,
the class demonstrates verbs of possession by asking each boy to show a gift which he had received.
For the pleasure of the teacher and the girls, the boys are asked to pose nude.

The girl you remind me of is named Isis.
When Isis’ birthday arrives, the lesson for the day is on prepositions.
Since “for” is a preposition, the class asks Isis what they could do for her.
She responds:

“I like to watch boys because each boy has his own individual style. Every boy walks differently, runs differently, and does everything else differently. And they all move more gracefully when they are nude. So I think watching naked boys is a fine art which should more widely appreciated.

“But I don’t get enough opportunities to see boys pee. But when I do, I enjoy it to its fullest because each boy pee’s just a little bit differently.”

In response to Isis’ request, the boys take their clothes off,
the class walks to the city park across the street,
and the teacher takes a picture of each boy pee’ing.

If you give me your e-mail address, I’ll send the novel to you.

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Willy
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Date Posted: 22:02:15 12/21/25 Sun
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Hello Spelvin been I long time. I think you misunderstand me it wasn't that I felt immature only when I was nude in front of younger girls.I couldn't help be feel they in their swimsuits and with their modesty fully protected seemed more mature than I.

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Date Posted: 15:29:01 12/22/25 Mon
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I hope someone out there is ready for a psychology lesson.
The Transactional Analysts divide the human personality into a mature Parent, a rational Adult, and a helpless and attention-seeking Child.
The Parent is divided into the self-descriptive Critical Parent and Nurturant Parent.

It seems that someone had a CFNM experience with the girls playing a Nurturant Parent role.
In 2010, Tonyforte wrote to the Delphi Forums, describing an Australian children’s home in which he grew up.
The 11-year-old girls were responsible for bathing the the 5-year-old children of both genders, the 12-year-old girls for the 6-year-olds, and so on up until the 17-year-old girls bathing the 11-year-olds.
12-year-olds were trusted to take care of themselves.

Bath time was accompanied with motherly compliments such as "What a fine-looking young man you are!”
"Let's get you nice and clean so you can be super proud of yourself."

Our young protagonist not only became accustomed to the lifestyle of the children’s home, but had some adjusting to do when a loving family took him in.
One time, the womenfolk in! his new family brought clean laundry into his bedroom when he was naked.
They profusely apologized, but he could not understand why they were apologizing.

I hope that when a clothed girl meets a nude boy, treats him like the 11-year-old girls treated the 5-year-old boys.
I hope they don’t take the Critical Parent route with reprimands like “stand up straight!” “pick your feet up when you walk!”

So now I’m curious:
Ellen, when you played with your unclad brothers and cousins, did you treat them with this sort of soft nurturance?
Willy, when your lovely playmates saw you in all your glory, did they groom you carefully and comment on what a fine-looking young man you were?

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Date Posted: 06:42:40 12/23/25 Tue
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Ellen, in your message of December 20, I wondered what you meant by "evening the playing field."
I just came by this section in my notes,
and I would like to hear your comments:

When Gertrude (2020, Voy 223876) was growing up, she felt resentful because “boys often acted superior to us.”
She frequented the South Carolina beach,
where she enjoyed a generous display of male anatomy.
She saw those trips as a chance for revenge:

"Sure the boys were stronger and could run faster than we could, but we knew what their 'wiener' looked like and had seen it erect! It was all about having one up on them!"

I grew up feeling similarly resentful toward girls.
I detested the song which stated that little boys were made of “snips and snails and puppy dogs’ tails” and that little girls were made of “sugar and spice and everything nice.”
I saw that the teachers at school praised girls more often than they did boys, and I hated the girls for that.
I regarded the “ladies first” maxim not as an effort to protect them for their fragility, but to reward them for their superiority over us.

I did not quite understand why the topography of a person’s body should be kept secret from the opposite sex, but I took this rule for granted.
I only saw naked women in the media, but I regarded each sighting as a point for my team.
No female outside my family ever saw me nude, but I regarded each sighting of a nude male by a female as a point for the opposing team.
In other words, I watched the same scoreboard that Gertrude watched.

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Date Posted: 04:47:42 12/24/25 Wed
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Spelvin, according to your scoring method, the female team would definitely score much higher than the male team because boys have far more opportunities for exposure than girls during childhood. Many girls have experienced seeing several boys their age naked while they themselves remained modestly dressed, which undoubtedly adds many points to the female team's score. I remember during puberty, when I was secretly discussing female organ in porn with a few boys, a female classmate interrupted us and mocked us, saying: "You boys only watch porn online; which girl in real life would show you her private parts? We girls all know that boys' private parts are just a stick and we see them often in real life. There are no secrets about your bodies to us girls." Considering the lack of privacy in the male facilities at our school (which I mentioned in the double standards board), I think she was right. Girls know far more about boys' private parts than boys know about girls' private parts during childhood.

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Date Posted: 09:30:21 12/24/25 Wed
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My brothers would usually do better than me in any game we played but in my mind it was always even because I was very familiar with their penises. When I was with clothed boys at school (I wish I could have seen naked boys there too, but I got to almost everywhere else) they would usually be more rude and act superior to girls, but when I was at home with my brothers and their friends who were naked as well I took on a more mature nurturing role with them. So any time I felt like boys had an unfair advantage I would just remember that I got to keep my clothes on at home and they didn’t!

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Date Posted: 10:04:52 12/24/25 Wed
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Hi Ellen you should come to my chatroom. I would love to chat with you. https://nudeschat.chatovod.com/

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Date Posted: 19:00:27 12/24/25 Wed
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I knew a girl my age, as friends of my foster mother, and we became close friends. I learned her brother was being raised nude just like your brothers. I was already 10 when we met, she was 9 and her brother 7. They let me play with just boy naked as first and then both to acclimate me to being nude all the time after school and in summer, then after a while I preferred to be nude. After the initiate part I stayed naked except when going somewhere, id get pants and shirt. Ther wasnt really any stigma back then for boys doing that as it was considered healthy though most did it sometimes only.


Girl did wear just panties sometimes but mostly wore tshirt and shorts while us boys played naked. Afew girls were naked at beach till 8 or 9 but mistly just boys doing this.

The girl would get grumpy if I was not over playing all the time. She liked having boys to play with. Id have sleep overs in boys room all the time and they did same.

I wish I could be that age again :)

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Date Posted: 06:28:12 11/22/25 Sat
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Like Shan, I also had experiences of being exposed to a female friend during my childhood. Because our mothers were best friends, we grew up together and saw each other frequently. During this time, I gave her many opportunities to see me naked. When we went swimming in the small river near our homes, I often took off my clothes and changed into my swimming trunks right in front of her, sometimes even choosing to swim naked. She would often watch me while I pee during playtime. When we went to the beach, my mother, to ensure she could quickly clean the sand off me, would have me go naked while she, as a girl, remained clothed. We would play together on the beach like that. At the time, I felt that she already completely knew what I looked like naked, so exposing myself to her wasn't a big deal, and it was also quite common for boys to be naked in certain situations, so I wasn't embarrassed.

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Date Posted: 11:39:16 11/23/25 Sun
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Yes I had same kind of experience at beaches certainly. I was always stripped while girls in group were more modest in bottoms or one piece based on age. Our routine was to walk along until we saw other boys for me to play with and usually naked too.

I was told it was necessary as I got too sandy and girl enjoyed it better, and easier to wash off. I did it till 12 and sometimes till 14 if beach was empty

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Date Posted: 18:59:56 12/09/25 Tue
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>I definitely agree that boys should be admired and
>naked, I grew up with two brothers who were raised
>nude at almost all times and I always enjoyed seeing
>everything they had. They would play around with
>eachother, completely oblivious to their penises
>wobbling and bouncing around but I would closely watch
>and appreciate every little movement. They would bend
>over and I would see their penis and balls hang down,
>they were completely focused on whatever game they
>were playing but I would be completely focused on how
>their beautiful boy parts moved.
>
>I especially loved knowing that I could see every bit
>of them but they wouldn’t ever see me at all!

This is making a good case for my boys being nude much more often. Today I took them swimming at the indoor pool and they were the only boys in the changing are They were getting all the attention and being asked about school and what the do for fun that they didn't notice they were standing around naked for almost 30 min. One of the adults was even kind enough to point that my middle son needs more water because you could see the imprint from the band of his undies around hus waist.

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Date Posted: 10:59:25 12/10/25 Wed
Author Host/IP: 24.57.206.80

>>I definitely agree that boys should be admired and
>>naked, I grew up with two brothers who were raised
>>nude at almost all times and I always enjoyed seeing
>>everything they had. They would play around with
>>eachother, completely oblivious to their penises
>>wobbling and bouncing around but I would closely watch
>>and appreciate every little movement. They would bend
>>over and I would see their penis and balls hang down,
>>they were completely focused on whatever game they
>>were playing but I would be completely focused on how
>>their beautiful boy parts moved.
>>
>>I especially loved knowing that I could see every bit
>>of them but they wouldn’t ever see me at all!
>
>This is making a good case for my boys being nude much
>more often. Today I took them swimming at the indoor
>pool and they were the only boys in the changing are
>They were getting all the attention and being asked
>about school and what the do for fun that they didn't
>notice they were standing around naked for almost 30
>min. One of the adults was even kind enough to point
>that my middle son needs more water because you could
>see the imprint from the band of his undies around hus
>waist.

Sounds like they were enjoying the view, and making it last as long as possible by asking them questions to distract them from realizing their state....or was I reading that wrong?

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Date Posted: 21:23:17 12/10/25 Wed
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>>>I definitely agree that boys should be admired and
>>>naked, I grew up with two brothers who were raised
>>>nude at almost all times and I always enjoyed seeing
>>>everything they had. They would play around with
>>>eachother, completely oblivious to their penises
>>>wobbling and bouncing around but I would closely
>watch
>>>and appreciate every little movement. They would bend
>>>over and I would see their penis and balls hang down,
>>>they were completely focused on whatever game they
>>>were playing but I would be completely focused on how
>>>their beautiful boy parts moved.
>>>
>>>I especially loved knowing that I could see every bit
>>>of them but they wouldn’t ever see me at all!
>>
>>This is making a good case for my boys being nude much
>>more often. Today I took them swimming at the indoor
>>pool and they were the only boys in the changing are
>>They were getting all the attention and being asked
>>about school and what the do for fun that they didn't
>>notice they were standing around naked for almost 30
>>min. One of the adults was even kind enough to point
>>that my middle son needs more water because you could
>>see the imprint from the band of his undies around hus
>>waist.
>
>Sounds like they were enjoying the view, and making it
>last as long as possible by asking them questions to
>distract them from realizing their state....or was I
>reading that wrong?
>
>.
I am sure that was part of it, usually we go to the pool this early in the day but with it being too cold for the boys to play outside for very long we switched to the pool so they can get plenty of activity. Usually if we go later is busier, especially on the weekends, and everyone is kind of in their own world in the change area. But my boys definitely forgot they were naked, but I guess it just proves that boys will get comfortable being naked fairly quick in an environment where its required.

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Date Posted: 01:42:02 01/02/26 Fri
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I'll admit I was one of those boys. Off the beaten path Florida was way different than it was today. In 1979 August Florida, I was ten years old, sitting in the back of our station wagon. I didn't have any clothes on. I had taken my swim trunks off earlier because they were wet and sandy, and I was just sitting on the plastic seat.

Mom would go into a Texaco gas station. She handed me a dollar and some change over the seat and I would get cokes and ice naked outside, pay for them and stay naked whole time. Under 12 was unofficially Ok for boys to still do this. The air conditioning felt good in store not in car. I walked up to the counter holding the ice against my chest. The clerk was a young woman reading a magazine. She didn't look surprised to see a naked kid. He just waited for me to get the drinks. I walked to the back fridge, grabbed two Cokes, and walked back to the front. There was a couple looking at maps in the corner. She glanced at me, but didn't say anything.

Another experience was to just walk over to friends house naked as I was using his pool. I would stay over and walk home at 10 naked after having pancake with him as well. Girls at pool never did this other than underwear soemtimes.

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Date Posted: 02:52:18 11/23/25 Sun
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"Human feelings change depending on the place and environment. When I was growing up in the 90s, India hadn't yet modernised, and the contrast between big cities, small towns, and villages was quite stark.
I was the only child of my parents and lived in a small town. In middle-class families back then, young boys weren't given much privacy; a child's nudity was viewed simply as innocence. So, in that small town, being naked for me meant bathing naked in front of my parents at the open backyard in our house, or changing clothes naked in front of them, as they were the ones who would fetch my fresh clothes. When relatives came to visit (except for a few very close ones I will mention later), I would avoid being naked in front of them.
In primary school (around age 8), it meant seeing my male friends peeing together in the latrine with their pants down. There were no modern latrine facilities; it was more like a large drain, so everyone could see each other peeing and penises. Sometimes, there were even competitions to see who could pee the farthest.
And if accidents happened at school, incidents involving nudity would occur. For instance, once during the rainy season, I fell completely into the mud, ruining my clothes. There was a female maid (attendant) at the school. She took me to the bathroom, took off all my wet clothes, leaving me completely naked, bathed me with a bucket of water, wrapped me in a towel, and called my father's office to ask him to pick me up. We didn't keep extra clothes at school; I must have been about 7 years old at the time.
Seeing me being bathed naked in the open bathroom, some friends teased me, saying, 'Shame, shame, fully naked!' Some girls from the class saw it too, because no one usually got fully naked at school. And since I was just a small boy, the school maid didn't even feel the need to close the door."
"So, in the small town, all of us boys, friends grew up this way. Until we were about 12 years old (before hitting puberty), we would be naked in front of our parents at home; the concept of individual privacy didn't really exist. Those who had sisters would be naked in front of them too, but outside the house or in front of a crowd, everyone felt shy about being naked and wouldn't do it.
Now, let's move on to the village, where the environment was completely different. Electricity hadn't reached every village back then, the roads were unpaved, and people's mindsets were quite old-fashioned. My mother's ancestral home was in the village. My grandfather, grandmother, maternal uncle (Mama), and his wife (Mami) lived there. My uncle got married when I was 9, and their daughter was born when I was 13. Every year, when our school closed for the 45-day summer vacation, my uncle would come to take me to the village, and I would stay there.
The customs in the village were different. Readymade clothes weren't readily available there; clothes had to be stitched by tailors, or the women of the house would make them from fabric. At that time, it was very common for young boys in the village to play naked in the open fields, by the riverbanks, or in the woods. There were various reasons for this:
Traditional Mindset: The villagers were old-fashioned; they considered the nudity of young boys to be natural, although they were conservative regarding girls.
Financial Constraints: Clothes were quite expensive in India back then. Since children outgrew their pants quickly, poor parents wouldn't buy many clothes. Usually, there was one set for wearing at home and another for going out.
Practicality: Village boys played a lot in the mud and dust, so there was a high chance of clothes getting dirty or torn.
As a result, it was a very common sight to see boys aged 11-12—who hadn't reached puberty yet and had hairless penises, bodies—naked in the village river or out in the fields. Older women and girls of the same age considered this entirely normal, so no one mocked or joked about it. On the other hand, small girls would usually wear just panties and a white camisole that went down to their waist; full nudity was not acceptable for them."
"Before my uncle's marriage, when I was even younger at the village house, my grandmother (Didima) used to take me to the river to bathe. There was a large river just a four-minute walk behind our house. You had to cross the woods and a sandbank behind the house to reach it. Grandma would strip me completely naked at home and take me to the river to teach me how to swim and give me a bath. Then, once we returned home, she would give me clothes to wear again.
It was only in the village that I would be naked outside the house, something that didn't happen in the town. Many women would come to the riverbank to do their chores, like washing clothes or scrubbing utensils, and their daughters would come along too. I would be completely naked in front of all of them, but I didn't feel shy because I saw all the other boys my age—who hadn't reached puberty yet—bathing in front of everyone and playing in the sand by the river in the same state. After all, I wasn't the only one; furthermore, the women or girls never shamed us.
I would also be naked at the village house at night before going to sleep. Since there was no electricity, it used to get very hot at night, so Grandma would have me sleep naked on a mat on the floor; I would only get clothes to wear again in the morning. Additionally, inside the house, I would be naked while changing clothes to go out.
It is worth mentioning that in the village, neighbours frequently visited people's homes to chat, as that was the main way to pass the time apart from reading storybooks. So, even if people were visiting the house, Grandma would strip me naked in front of them if necessary—like when changing my outfit to go out—which was unlike how things were in the city."
"When I was 9 years old, my uncle got married, and Mami (my aunt) came to our home. My newlywed aunt was very jovial. Whenever my uncle brought me to the village, she would say to me, 'Come on, come on, take off those dirty clothes from the travel. Get completely naked. Let me see how much your penis has grown since last time.' She would laugh as she said this.
I had grown up a little by then, so I didn't need to be escorted to the river for a bath anymore. About an hour before bath time, Mami would strip me completely naked and send me out through the back door. I would play with other boys on the riverbank, then bathe in the river and return. The village women and girls would be by the riverbank and watch us; for them, this was an everyday occurrence.
Mami changed one routine compared to my grandmother... When I returned home, she would give me only a T-shirt to wear that reached my waist, but nothing underneath. As a result, my penis and buttocks remained only half-covered. And if I raised my hands even slightly, everything would be exposed. I felt even more shy being pantless like this than being completely naked; but if I mentioned it to Mami, she would say, 'Oh please, everyone inside and outside has seen everything already. You are just a child... why are you so shy?'
A girl named Tina Didi, who was three years older than me, lived in the house next door. She would occasionally come to our house. Because she saw me wearing just a T-shirt without pants like that, she treated me like an even smaller child. If I tried to say anything to her, she would say, 'You walk around without pants in front of girls and yet you talk back to me? Don't you know I am older than you? Just shut up and do as I say.'
Essentially, after Mami married into the village family, I wouldn't get pants to wear unless it was absolutely necessary. When I came back naked after bathing in the river, Mami would ask, 'Hey, did you bathe properly? Did you wash your penis well?' and she would laugh. And if I complained that it was very hot, she would take off the T-shirt as well and say, 'Then stay like this at home.' She often did this during the intense heat of the afternoons. In the late afternoon, she would give me the T-shirt, but no pants or underwear."
"Now, let's move on to the big city. All my relatives on my father's side lived in big cities. I used to visit my Pishi’s (paternal aunt's) house once every two years for about 15 to 20 days. Pishi had two daughters who were much older than me. When they were 17 or 18, I was 9.
Because they lived in the city, they had grown up in a modern environment and hadn't seen boys older than 5 or 6 naked. Pishi had seen me being naked in front of my mother at my own home, so even when she brought me to her house, she would strip me naked in front of her own two daughters. The matter was quite new to the two girls, and they used to laugh a lot. However, my city aunt would usually only strip me naked during bath time, and the two girls would laugh seeing that. They would ask their mother, 'Does anyone get naked at this age?' Pishi would laugh and say, 'Boys from small towns stay naked in front of family members until they are 11 or 12.'
During extreme heat, Pishi sent me to bed completely naked a few times. However, generally, she wouldn't keep me naked much in the city, but she had a very bad temper. If I disobeyed her, she would strip me completely naked and make me stand holding my ears for 30 minutes as punishment. My two older cousins found this very amusing. They would tease me saying, 'Shame, shame... naughty boy. Getting punished naked in front of girls. Shameless. We can see everything.' Saying this, they would grab Pishi's camera and take photos of me holding my ears naked. Pishi also took plenty of photos of me bathing naked.
My two cousins really enjoyed the fact that I got punished naked. Once, they even made a false complaint to Pishi just to get me punished naked. All these events continued until I was about 12 years old."

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Date Posted: 05:59:13 12/06/25 Sat
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REASON NUMBER THREE: Boy's nudity could act as a preventive or antidote for gender identity disorders.

According to Nicolosi (2017), a boy could benefit by taking showers with his father. Thus, the boy "cannot help noticing that Dad has a male body, just like he has."

The phallic symbol thus becomes a “masculine introjection,” or "the essential symbol of masculinity—the unmistakable difference between male and female. This undeniable anatomical difference should be emphasized to the boy in therapy."

Nicolosi does not explain why this masculine introjection should be confined to the shower room.
I see no reason why the boy's sacred icon should not be shown to everyone he sees.
People will no longer have to say, "Don't be silly, she's just a little girl."
People will no longer have to say, "Don't be silly, she's raised boys of her own and has seen it all before."
People will no longer have to say, "Don't be silly, she's going to be a mother some day and needs to know what boys look like."
People will no longer have to say, "Quit that towel dancing. Everyone in here looks just like you."

I don't have the statistics to prove this, but I betcha there have been fewer male homosexuals, transsexuals, and transvestites among men with memories of skinny dipping, nude swim meets, Victorian beaches, or tropical villages.

Nicolosi, J. 2017. A parent's guide to preventing homosexuality. Kindle edition: 23-24.

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Date Posted: 06:16:14 12/08/25 Mon
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REASON NUMBER FOUR: Nudity can help prevent or cure itches and rashes.

I hadn't thought about this one.
Thank you, farmrabbits!

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Date Posted: 05:47:41 12/15/25 Mon
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When I was in the eighth grade, one of my teachers said--in front of the whole class--
"I'm not worried about Spelvin, I understand he's doing a lot better this year."
That made me feel like two cents.
I was shocked to realize that the teacher was SUPPOSED to be worried about me!
That goes to prove that a double negative doesn't always equal a positive.

I imagine that Joe had similar feelings when he was growing up. In his message of February 12, 2025, he wrote:

"Nothing more infantalizing than being told you have nothing to hide.
"I remember being told it many times, especially when I was a bit older, as my underwear came down, wet trunks came off, or PJ bottoms came down."

Instead of saying that a boy has nothing to hide,
what will happen if we say that he has everything to show?

It looks like Tor has the answer to this question.
On May 10, 2025, he wrote:

"I was told boys being naked in summer was a gift you give the girls.
"If any other boy did I was told to join them. till even 14. "We would even ride in car naked to beach back then.

"Another boy I grew up with younger than me would not wear clothes at home all summer. I would join him often.
"His sister was my age but I never felt embarrassed."

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Date Posted: 06:24:42 12/31/25 Wed
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A male duck who sees only male ducks after hatching would accept only male ducks as mating partners.
The reverse is true of female ducks. (Money & Ehrenhardt 1972: 177-178)

In our own species, then, we can prevent and treat Lesbianism in girls by presenting them with a generous view of male anatomy.

Money, S. & Ehrenhardt, A. A. 1972. Man & woman boy & girl: The differentiation and dimorphism of gender identity from conception to maturity. Baltimore: John Hopkins University Press: 177-178.

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Date Posted: 16:03:00 12/31/25 Wed
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One more useless post no one can relate to just to round out year.

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Date Posted: 18:37:26 01/01/26 Thu
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I thought my list was complete,
but Jocasta just added to my list of reasons for the double standard.
Here it is, for anyone who missed it:

https://www.voy.com/250988/1855.html

Thank you, Jocasta!

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