I think A-10 is right move for FU.. Full scholly's will allow a 1A game each year... Also you mention Ne state schools ..well Bucknell, Lehigh, Lafayette in PA dont excite me either.. The A-10 is better football ... also the schools left in A-10 each represent a different state... of which it doesnt hurt to have Fordham athletics involved... A-10 now.. -- FORDHAM RAMS FOOTBALL FORUM

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Subject: I think A-10 is right move for FU.. Full scholly's will allow a 1A game each year... Also you mention Ne state schools ..well Bucknell, Lehigh, Lafayette in PA dont excite me either.. The A-10 is better football ... also the schools left in A-10 each represent a different state... of which it doesnt hurt to have Fordham athletics involved... A-10 now..

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Date Posted: 09:52:51 11/09/04 Tue
In reply to: Ramadama 's message, "So much for A-10 football. Patriot League is looking better and better. A-10 football will be a Villanova and a couple of New England State schools. That would pack them in!" on 09:41:35 11/09/04 Tue

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I disagree. Richmond and Villanova are as appealing as (maybe more than) Colgate and Lehigh. UMass, Rhode Island, New Hampshire and Maine are definitely more appealing than Lafayette and Bucknell. We could (and should) play Holy Cross and Columbia out of conference every year. We could round out the out-of-conference schedule with a I-A opponent (Army, Navy, Duke, etc.), a CAA team (Delaware, William & Mary, etc.), a PL school (Colgate, Lehigh, Georgetown, etc.) and/or an Ivy League team (Penn, Princeton, etc.). (NT) ramMan 11:46:36 11/09/04 Tue

The new A-10 is going to be made up of a bunch of cow colleges from New England and Villanova, Richmond and Hofstra. Why is that so great? Wanting to move to scholarship football is one thing. Telling me people will be breaking down the doors to see URI, Maine, UMass and New Hampshire? I don't see them as bigger draws that Lehigh, Colgate or Bucknell. We've played Rhode Island. I don't recall it being a sell-out. If NH and Maine, travel with big crowds, it doesn't show in their attendance. I like to think we have for more in common with PL schools than ag schools from New England. (NT) Ramadama 16:19:28 11/09/04 Tue

I respectfully disagree. First off, Hofstra would not be in the new A-10 (it�s an all-sports member of the CAA). Re the New England �ag� schools, with the exception of UMass, I agree, they�re not going to draw enormous crowds, but they are a step up in competition (New Hampshire is ranked #7 in this week�s polls, Maine went to the I-AA playoffs four times, Rhode Island three times, and UMass six times, winning the I-AA Championship in 1998). (NT) -- ramMan, 19:54:57 11/09/04 Tue
Cow colleges? There hasn't been a "cow college" in New England in 100 years. I hate to burst your bubble, but the liberal arts programs at those schools are comparable to ours. (NT) -- Rambacker, 23:07:41 11/09/04 Tue

UNH is still a cow college. I was there just a few weeks ago. There's a dairy operation on campus w/ a dairy management program. I believe UMass and URI still have agricultural programs as well. By the way, the UNH football "stadium" was definitely not impressive (nor was UMass' or URI's for that matter). The only things I liked were the chairbacks and plastic bench seats in the center section, and the track which circled the field. Visitor's stands appeared puny and dilapidated, the "press box" was a hut. Overall looked worse than what we have, more like a high school in Nowheresville. (NT) -- DamnRam, 09:09:46 11/10/04 Wed
Sorry, but while most of those schools may not be "cow colleges" they are for the most part mediocre land grant colleges that have almost nothing in common with Fordham. If you are telling me their academic programs are on par with ours, a lot of kids are going to want a tuition refund! Richmond and Villanova are different but there aren't any other schools that do anything for Fordham. UConn is the only state university to break the mold of the old time "State U" model. This is one of the reasons they got out of the A-10. (NT) -- An Old Coach, 09:34:30 11/10/04 Wed