Are you kidding? FieldTurf on Coffey Field "resolves the facilities problem"? That is an amazing statement. Until Fordham builds a real football stadium and a Convocations Center, we will be second class citiizens in the world of college athletics. Let's get real here, and right now. -- FORDHAM RAMS FOOTBALL FORUM

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Subject: Are you kidding? FieldTurf on Coffey Field "resolves the facilities problem"? That is an amazing statement. Until Fordham builds a real football stadium and a Convocations Center, we will be second class citiizens in the world of college athletics. Let's get real here, and right now.

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Date Posted: 20:52:49 12/09/04 Thu
In reply to: FC 's message, "We can't undo the past. However we can look to the present and beyond. The upgrades that are underway are very significant and should more or less, resolve the facilities problem. If at all possible, I would like to know if the upgrades will include the temp seating on the visitor side. That would be a real plus in conjunction with the rest of the upgrades. Yale comes on in 08 and hopefully we will have a better schedule in place at that time." on 17:45:42 12/09/04 Thu

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I think "temporarily resolves certain problems" would have been a better way of phrasing it FC. I also hope we get opposing stands for say 2K visitors fans and some marketing to help fill our stadium. I would really like to see Fordham play some night games as I think this could do a lot for attendance and recruiting. Rambacker, right now I think Fordham is a second class citizen in college athletics (I-AA in football, basketball team still down and the league right now is weak, most of our teams have losing records). It could be worse though - we could be Div II or III. (NT) DamnRam 09:15:23 12/10/04 Fri

While I don't agree that Fordham should abandon the PL, I can't argue with your assment of the program. About 10 years ago UConn did a strategic plan for athletics. They then created a volunteer committee consisting mostly of heavy hitter alums who were charged with coming up with the funding. I don't suggest Fordham should invest the resources in athletics that UConn has, but I have to think if a committee like this was formed, we could at least drive the facility issue that doesn't look like is being addressed. If we aren't going to make the investment, we should get out of D-1! (NT) -- An Old Coach, 11:39:45 12/10/04 Fri

Get out of DI! I find that to be a bit extremist. (NT) -- J�Dete93, 15:05:17 12/10/04 Fri

I think our limitations are so severe due to our facilities, that we can't consistantly compete in any sport. If that is the case, what is the point? When UConn did its strategic plan, each sport was evaluated. The first question asked if the athletic department was willing to provide the resources for it to win a Big East championship. I think we need to do something very similar. If we aren't going to provide the resources to win an A-10 or PL championship, why are we spending millions of dollars per year on athletics? (NT) -- An Old Coach, 17:10:50 12/10/04 Fri

I am not saying that we should continue to spend the amounts we are if we don't plan to make the necessary commitments, but I also don't think it means that we would need to drop to DII or III. Many a school with lesser facilities competes in DI. I still contest that Fordham's biggest problem is the exorbitant amount of varsity sports we sponsor for a school of our size with average facilities. The idea that we want to add 2 more women's sports seems insane to me. (click to read more inside) -- J�Dete93, 20:59:40 12/10/04 Fri

I agree we probably have too many sports as it is. Our biggest problem with our two primary men's sports is facilities. Coffey Field and the RHG identify your program and are terrible. Can we occasionally catch lightning as we did in football 2 years ago? Ya, once in a while. Those facilities will preclude us from being consistantly competitive. Don't tell me about St. Joes. Those are special circumstances. Without a new stadium and athletic center, we can't compete in the big picture. (NT) -- An Old Coach, 07:55:57 12/11/04 Sat