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Subject: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
Frank K
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Date Posted: 04/ 25/ 05, 7:07am

Cost of ownership- routine repairs and maintenance
I have my sites set on a 1991 wanderlodge. I have reviewed all of the maintenance bills for the past ten years and I have "sticker shock".

It appears that routine maintenance has been about 3,000 per year, with an occasional bill running $5,000 and one even hitting $12,000.
Tune ups and with an oil change hit nearly $2,000. If something was wrong, start at $200 to write up the order.
If you are not at a Blue bird dealership, hit another 500 to $1000 to fabricate tools to work on the engine. It looks like a coach costs a minimum of $6,000 in repairs and maintenance. Factor in depreciation and maintenance, puts another $6,0000 on the number. More troublesome, the CAT engine manual promises a cheap rebuild, which is required at 100,000 miles for an engine with heavy use. Another 15,000 repair bill. The heat system, Primus, is no longer made and parts are not available. Another $5,000 to replace.

I cannot write a $12,000 check without a major cut into my standard of living, (like the current owner). Anyone want to share ownership cost for the 1987 to 1992 36 foot pushers?

Frank

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
PATRICIA SHANNON (HAPPY)
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Date Posted: 04/ 18/ 08, 7:31am

I HAVE A 92 SP36 BLUE BIRD WANDERLODGE SINCE 1999 AND HAVE SPENT A FORTUNE ON THIS COACH BUT LOVE IT! HOWEVER, THERE HAS ONLY BEEN ONE DEATH IN A WANDERLODGE SINCE THEY STARTED BUILDING THEM IN 1963 WHILE ON THE ROAD. IT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO BREAK INTO A WANDERLODGE THEY ARE BUILT SO GOOD SO AS A SINGLE WOMAN, I FEEL SO VERY SAFE IN BOTH RESPECTS PLUS MY MOTORHOME DRIVES LIKE ON A CLOUD.

MOST OF MY FRIENDS HAVE COACHES - A WIDE VARIETY AND EACH ONE OF THEM TAKE A TRIP AND UPON RETURN, PLACE IT IN THE SHOP. ALL OF MY MOTORHOMES FRIENDS TELL ME THAT IT COSTS A FORTUNE TO OWN A MOTORHOME REGARDLESS OF THE MAKE, MODEL AND YEAR SO WHO KNOWS?

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
Ernie Ekberg
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Date Posted: 04/ 28/ 08, 6:26pm

WOA, Frank, take a deep breath. First, any diesel shop has tools to work on either a Detroit Diesel, Cummings, or Cat engine. No fabrication required. You stated that the Cat engine has to be rebuilt with over 100k miles with heavy use. I hardly suspect that our coaches qualify for heavy use. Primus parts are available. Lets talk more about your perspective purchase. We can always talk about repairs- if needed, later. Tell us about the coach you are interested in.
Ernie- 83PT40-- 350,000 miles- no tools needed

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[> [> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
John Stiles
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Date Posted: 05/ 7/ 15, 4:57am

Echo'ing what Ernie has said, you do not need to fabricate anything. The 100K miles for a cat engine is not a figure for a rebuild, someone has mispoke or you have misunderstood. The supposed Caterpillar recommendation was for replacing the bottom end bearings on 3208's at around the 100K mileage mark on engines in severe duty use (dump trucks, garbage trucks etc.). These birds far from qualify for this. Because of this 100K "urban legend" I had my lower end bearings replaced about 15 years ago and the ones that came out were like brand new. This was with around 140K miles. It was a total waste of money and the shop thought I was crazy for having the bearing replaced in the first place. So, lesson learned, don't believe all urban legends. No special tools needed, no 100K mile rebuild etc. These are good solid machines and the old cat is a great engine which in motorhome use (with proper care) will likely outlast most owners....

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
Bill
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Date Posted: 05/ 3/ 08, 7:04am

Yep, That can happen.
Some times folks have too much $$$ and are afraid to get their hands dirty. (An opinion only).
At about $100 per hour and a few parts replaced , it will add up to about $1000 per day in a truck or RV repair center.
If you are handy with taking care of you own house, the RV part is just some occational plumbing, heating, electrical, If you can change your own oil, & all filters once per year this is a great saving. Have new tires put on every seven years. and you are good to go.
So a 15 year old BB and about 10 to $15K over the first three year period , and you will have lots of fun and a great dependable Motorhome.
Our Cat purrs like a Kitten at over 100,000 miles.

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
Stephen
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Date Posted: 05/ 3/ 08, 4:10pm

Primus parts are available

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
Bruce
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Date Posted: 05/ 5/ 08, 3:01pm

Frank,

Six years ago, I knew very little about RVs and what it took to maintain them. Then I came across a '95 Safari Trek that a friend of mine was selling as part of an estate sale. His father had became terminally ill three years prior and the RV sat unused since. I agreed to help my friend get it ready to sell. With what little knowledge I had at the time, I educated myself. I ended up buying that RV. Today, it is running fantastically. All systems go!

With that in mind, another good friend of mine recently purchased a '79 33' Foward Control Wanderlodge that had been sitting in a state of rot for the past five years. Keep in mind that anything that sits, has a tendency to stay that way. As Newton's First Law states, objects at rest tend to remain at rest. With that in mind, we know that when getting into used RVs, the first couple of years can seem to drain the wallet like a money pit. Think boats. As they say, holes in the water into which one pours money.

That said, there's value in both knowledge and Wanderlodges. These are no cheap rigs. Folks who see them still ask questions about them. There is a certain "cool factor" in owning one. But owning one doesn't come without a certain cost of ownership. They do have to be maintained.

When I bought my Safari Trek, I knew very little about RVs. I work for a major airline so I know a thing or two about airplane systems and the physics behind those systems. RVs aren't really all that different than airplanes, believe it or not. While that made it somewhat easier for me to grasp the concepts of RV systems, anyone can learn them. I don't do diesel engine repair so that work gets farmed out at as Bill wrote, $100 an hour. My buddy who just bought the '79 33' FC recently dumped almost $5,000 in the engine side of the RV. But then there is still the house side to consider. We just replaced the refrigerator ourselves. While there was an expense, we saved a lot of money by knowing a thing or two about RVs. I feel that all owners of older, pre-owned RVs should know how the systems work and how to repair and maintain them. Great places to start are Woodall's RV Owner's Handbook by Gary "The RV Doctor" Bunzer and Trailer Life's RV Repair and Maintenance Manual by Bob Livingston. Both books are very handy and informative. To a point. If you want to know more, I suggest checking out what I did. I took a distance learning course on RV repair and maintenance. It is taught by Gary Bunzer. Check out:

http://www.northampton.edu/distancelearn/programs/rv_default.htm

for more information. I believe that the more you can do yourself on RVs, the more affordable and enjoyable having an RV becomes. Maintaining your RV yourself brings the whole RV lifestyle full circle. You not only get to enjoy your RV when things work, troubleshooting and correcting becomes a hobby itself. Think about how you can help your fellow RVers while on the road! I got into this thing full speed. If my airline job tanks, I have RV repair to fall back on.

If you decide to check out the distance learning course, write to Gary Bunzer and mention my name. Bruce McCoy. He knows who I am!

Anyway, Frank, you can either afford this rig or you can't. You'll have to decide that for yourself. I always like to tell people that there is an RV for every budget. Everything from the smallest pop-up camper trailer to the largest diesel pusher. Only you will know what you can afford to purchase, operate and maintain. I hope that you can snag this 'lodge you are looking at. Keep in mind though, it will need to be maintained.

Best of luck,
Bruce. (For Tom the owner,)
'79 33' FC

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
Stephen
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Date Posted: 05/ 19/ 08, 3:06pm

primus parts are still availble
an oil change should cost around 75.00 if you want to do the work yourself Cat engines will last longer than 100k miles if treated properly

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
DALE HALL
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Date Posted: 03/ 23/ 09, 8:40pm

Just purchased a 92 SP36. Like most used RV's it had a few bugs. I have done the best i can without a manual of the systems. Can anyone where i can find a manual of the systems or if i can possibly copy someones, its a 1992 SP36,with a Taytronics inverter. Any help would greatly be appreciated.

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
Mr C
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Date Posted: 03/ 24/ 09, 12:07pm

I have had my 86 38' pusher for a year and because it was well cared for before I purchased it I have not had to spend much. I have had it serviced (oil/filter, air filter, lubed) and have spent less than $700. It runs well and I think if a person keeps up with it, like anything else, it should not cost huge amounts to keep it rolling down the road. This is the best RV I have ever had.

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
steve
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Date Posted: 10/ 23/ 12, 6:45pm

looking at the sp36,how are these pulling a trailer
or car?should I be looking at something with more power?

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
Stephen
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Date Posted: 01/ 13/ 13, 2:50pm

parts are available for the primus system

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
travis
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Date Posted: 08/ 15/ 13, 1:55pm

I have an 82 wanderlodge and The air compressor belt blew of on me what is the simplest way to replace the belt you can not get to it from the top and with no air it is hard to even get under it. Is there a way to pump air back in to the bus so that I can release the air brakes and move to a better location to work on it

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
Jerry Howard
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Date Posted: 05/ 13/ 15, 7:23am

Yes you must have a huge cash reserve to keep one of theses coaches in good shape. Go out and price tires and you will have more sticker shock. Premium coaches but will cost you.

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