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Date Posted: 22:40:52 06/10/00 Sat
Author: Peter
Subject: Re: Moe vs. Conv. Golf
In reply to: Arista 's message, "Re: The clubface square to the path..." on 22:06:59 06/10/00 Sat

>
> I went to the web site you gave in the link and Moe's
> clubface is not open to the plane it's on the
> plane. In a proper conventional swing the clubface
> position is 90 degrees to the right of what Moe shows.
> Any one who believes Moe's position is the proper
> conventional position is doomed with CG before they
> even start.

Actually it's not quite on plane. To be more precise about terms - at a point when the club would be horizontal on the downswing the club face will be vertical which will make it slightly 'closed' relative to swing plane and Moe's left arm. Picture #4 from the top occurs just before this point. This is how grip is set in IMA.

Ctunflog had posted that with NG "the clubface square on the swing plane for most of the swing". This is not the case.

I do not understand what you mean by "90 degrees to the right". In various stop-action sequences I have of pros (I'm looking at Duval and Tiger now), the clubface is typically within a few degrees of parallel to the left arm where Moe is significantly closed by CG standards (looks about 10-20 degrees closed in the photo) but nowhere near 90 deg. Although 'closed' Moe is much closer to CG than Ctunflog indicated or what you would see with HSS where the clubface is literally 90 degrees to the left arm.

It should also be noted that Moe has a significantly weak/neutral left hand grip relative to many conventional pros (and Duval & Tiger particularly).

Peter

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