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Subject: I want to support Samantha, I really do. She doesn't feel real. She did work hard 2 prepare 4 this. Any 1 who gets this far did. I am not discrediting that. But when u c some1 on the "circuit", & by that I mean the import shows, the sexy lingerie photos, constant plastic surgery, a nickname with 3 x's at the end - this does cause criticisms. I am not saying that it is right, or that people can't change. IF u plan on entering Miss Universe 1 day, b smart. Don't take bad photos, using implicit porn names b/c this stuff follows u around. She is not being herself, & it is forced based on her interviews. There r few sites that c her placing. She just doesn't have that "it" factor u need for Miss Universe. Again, I am not discrediting her work or that she truly wants to be there, or that we should support her. I support her b/c she is Canadian (however u want 2 interpret), but not b/c I think that she really stands a chance. Author: Stefany [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 13:53:48 07/01/08 Tue In reply to: AmeriCan Fan 's message, "Official photos and interview from Miss Universe web site" on 12:02:17 06/21/08 Sat [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date I think alot of the citicism towards her also comes from that fact that the MUC Organization took her to Miss Universe last year. That kind of behaviour on the part of the MUC Organization raises eyebrows.. It just shouldn't happen. (NT) jmo 10:12:41 07/02/08 Wed That is unfortunate (click in) -- Isabelle Fry, 11:18:32 07/02/08 Wed I don't think our pageant fans are necessarily negative, as much as they are somewhat skeptical lately. There was no negativity when Natalie, Alice or Leanne were MUC. I think the appearance of impropriety on the part of the MUC Organization is fueling the flames. And I think it will continue if situations like that trip to Nicaragua, where certain girls were clearly invited along on the trip despite not being the new queen. And if any of these girls should win the title of MUC next year, then more speculation of "fixing" the outcome will again be raised. Unfortunately, whether the next winner deserves to win or not, that is a fact. (NT) -- jmo, 11:53:20 07/02/08 Wed I agree with what you're saying, however, there is another misunderstanding. During MUC this past year, all contestants were notified (in a letter) that the top 5 would be going to Nicaragua on that trip. Sahar and Genita couldn't make it (due to work committments) so two other top 10 members (who were available to go) went in their place. Sadly, no matter who wins next year there will be claims of "fixing" - there will always be some "reason". When Natalie won, there were also claims of it being fixed, but that was forgotten after she won Miss Universe. And yes, those claims were made about Alice too. I understand people being skeptical, but instead of assuming negitave thoughts surrounding things like the Nicaragua trip, please look at the other possibilities too and the sincere purpose of that trip. (NT) -- Isabelle Fry, 12:20:05 07/02/08 Wed I don't deny that there is a bigger purpose for the trip to Nicaragua, but unless everyone knows that the top 5 were invited and told in advance, all the mass public sees is a few pictures posted on a message board and on the MUC website. I think the PR team at the MUC Organization needs to be more on their toes making to sure to explain images like that so that there is no speculation. Do you know what I mean? Otherwise, people (from the outside looking in) feel something shady or unfair is going on.. Its all about perceptions.. (NT) -- jmo, 14:14:34 07/02/08 Wed Isabelle, I am a past pageant contestant and because this world is so small, a friend of mine actually knew by chance one of Alice's sponsors and this sponsor leaked before her crowning they Alice was promised by the organization she would win. This sponsor was bragging about his "MUC" before she even won.. and he knew this information from Alice herself. There is alot more information that I know but I wont share.. The girls that are from the Toronto area know what this pageant is about and how Denis runs his pageant. I would never recommend any girl pay an entry fee to this pageant. (NT) -- Doesn't matter, 23:31:15 07/02/08 Wed I always enjoy how all this so-called 'proof' of corruption in BOC is always second-hand sources and friends of friends. Ana Zotovic gave Alice a real run for her money in my opinion and it could have gone either way, but ultimately I think the right decision was made by the JUDGES based on Alice's MU performance. I wish bitter former contestants would stop griping about their defeats on this message forum, it's growing rather tiresome... (NT) -- Sigh..., 00:49:21 07/03/08 Thu No. Alice was the winner from the beginning. She's was undeniably the most beautiful contestant and deserved her win, whether it was fixed or not. No one came close to Alice. In Natalie's year, many of us thought Gretel Montgomery was more beautiful and should have won. That was a competitive year and in retrospect it turned out right. Canada produced one of the most beautiful Miss Universes ever. In Leanne's year, I was surprised by her win, because she seemed to come out of nowhere. However, she was the most beautiful that year, and my very favorite Miss Canada ever. It all seemed to fall apart after Alice. If it was fixed, they forgot to choose beautiful. (NT) -- Brent, 01:10:33 07/03/08 Thu Oops, my computer must be malfunctioning. All the interesting posts just got deleted. LOL! (NT) -- Brent, 22:17:43 07/03/08 Thu