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Subject: Thank you all, it's a great discussion. In every discussion there should be real persons involved. What I am seeing here is just a few 'real' posters like Drew, Brent, Linda, but others are some anonymous posters without identity. Come on guys, if you want to be anonymous it's OK, don't post with your name, use nick-name instead, but please stick to it and use it consistently. It is so disrespectful way to communicate. We are fans after all, not a bunch of migrating internet trolls. BTW, read the forum rules at the top of the page. Once again, I encourage you to introduce yourself as a valid forum contributor with a handle. Well, starting myself, I am a long time pageant lover from Ontario and my nick-name is

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Date Posted: 14:08:04 07/23/08 Wed
In reply to: Drew 's message, "MISS UNIVERSE CANADA FOR 2009" on 13:24:42 07/21/08 Mon

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Wow.....we've sparked up a little bit of a debate! I think that Canadian girls can be just as consistent as powerhouse countries in Miss Universe. But what type of girl are we looking for? That's the question! It has nothing to do with looking alike or not, it's more to do with a girl that will pack a punch the minute she arrives in the host country. Personally, I thought Sam had a chance, and I don't think she looked like past contestants. But with saying that, Sam was up against a strong group of girls who really wanted it. That's what we need-a girl who wants to win, who is consistent, yet likeable and to add the cherry on top: beautiful. Natalie, Leanne, Neelam, Kim, Alice-examples of determination! All of our opinions are going to differ, no matter what. I wanted Sahar to win-and alot of people will disagree with me. But Sam put forward a fight in a tough field of competitors, and I honestly think that she wasn't too far off ranking..... (NT) Drew 19:02:21 07/23/08 Wed

The biggest travesty at MUC was Inga beating Ramona. I don't think Ramona would have won Miss Universe, but she would most likely have made the semis. (NT) Brent 21:49:38 07/23/08 Wed

I agree with you 100%. I think that Ramona would've made a huge impact in 2007. She looked amazing at Miss World, and she was totally prepared for Miss Universe. And that was the the second time in a row that someone for Toronto beat a Vancouver girl....which pissed me off. I wonder who is going to try out next year? I hope someone absolutely amazing shows up!!!! (NT) -- Drew, 13:03:30 07/24/08 Thu

I agree.. she was beautiful and classy and well prepared. It's a shame she wasn't a Toronto girl and would get the same attention Natalie, Alice, Inga or Sam got... The skepticism about the fairness of the judging no one can prove, however the obvious prepping and favourtism is definitely obvious, and now becoming a trend in the winners. THIS is what I feel is unfair. I think there were quite a few girls (runner ups & top 10) girls every year that if they had the same prepping and attention as our winners by BOC they could have been the winners. There is a definite unfairness we have all witnessed every year with Toronto girls. I also think we should be seeing more diversity in judges from ALL over Canada, and NO repeat judges! I'm tired of seeing that overweight grey haired italian guy on the panel and the other few same faces I have seen since 2005. (NT) -- Linda, 14:55:58 07/24/08 Thu

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