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Date Posted: 08:56:06 11/22/02 Fri
Author: tamarisk
Subject: ACNR/Dolly/Bethany

Having been throughly amused by the Mags/Lilith debate on "baptism" at R1D2 this AM, I offer these verses of Scripture.

1 Cor 1:13-31
13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.
30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
(KJV)

A question to Rt Rev El Pavo, Mags, Lilith and others lost in false and wrong doctrines of men and Hell. What is the message of the Great Commission?

Matt 28:18-20
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
(KJV)

Those lost in THEIR "Holy Ghost" experience, never seem to get G_d's order in His salvation message.

"For the JEWS require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom. But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men."

I would ask--"Who is the Jew among them which require an outward sign of speaking in tongues?" If they are not Jews, then they are Greeks and THEIR "wisdom" places the same stumblingblock in their path as a snare.

The Jackals, Mags, Lilith cult need those outward signs to preach their false doctrines of demons. Unless you are a compromising, Neo-Fundamentalist who has made a non-aggression pact from Hell, they are from Hell because they attempt to decieve and destroy men with hellish teachings.

Where does Sh'aul preach water baptism equals salvation?

Earth to whomever. Iffin ya'll have ever attended a Jewish Synagogue and became familiar with Jewish Law, you would understand John's Baptism. John's Baptism, by water, is practiced in the Synagogue for those wishing to convert to Judaism. Jews have the plan of salvation in the Tanakh and in their "tradition." However, they don't believe Y'shua has come to free them from the curse of their sin.

Having Apostolic teaching and commission is one thing. You can baptize tens of thousands, like Mormonism and other cultic religions practicing "baptismal regeneration." That doesn't put you under the blood stained Cross of Calvary, however. Believing is yet another.

Another question for the Mags/Jackals cult. I have asked Mormons and RC's similar questions before. Can I be considered a Mormon if I don't believe Joey Smith was a true prophet of G_d? If I don't believe the Book of Mormon is "inspired" scripture? Can I be considered a "good" Catholic if I believe the "Catholic" version of Mary is from the pit of Hell? If I don't believe in their teachings on purgatory, their "white wafer god," etc?

Can I be considered an "Apostolic" Pentecostal or "Spirit-Filled" if I don't believe I need to be water baptized with the evidence of speaking on some, unknown tongue?

Having attended 3 Pentecostal Churches in the past(One Apostolic, one middle of the road Pentecostal, the last a Charismatic Messianic Congregation), I know the routine. They start out the service by perverting the sanctuary of the Lord by making it a social club. Then, they sing 3 fast songs to get the congregation stirred up into a frenzy by dancing, shouting, etc. Then, they sing 3 slow songs designed to "raise holy hands," incite tear shedding, etc.

You rarely hear a true Gospel message in these type of churches, though you will be reminded for those needing "salvation," "we have warm water" and "people available to baptize you." I have stood by the side of the baptismal tank on a few occasions and have seen the overt coaching going on. Just say any type of gibberish because they don't follow doctrinal truth for interpretation anyway. No one in attendance will be able to discern what you say anyway. They can't because they were all water batized by the same perversion of Acts 2:38.

Be very aware of these cultish practices in Pentecostal/Charismatic/Vineyard(Third Wave Pentecostals) Movements. Then comes the mostly Preterist Lighthouse Association of Churches.

When you decide to visit a church or are looking for a church, don't make the Lilith mistake. Oh, Lilith would like people to know she was following my advice for finding a church. My advice was to call the pastor of the church, first.(something she could not do in a Quaker congregation) Let that man earn his money by inviting you to meet with him outside the church house setting. If you are not saved, he needs to give you the Gospel message BEFORE you are ever invited to church. True Missionary/Evangelists should be doing their work out on the sidewalks of AmeriKa and NOT in the church. The major place for instruction of the Saints of G_d is in the home. Church can be anywhere but there is no requirement to go to a building on Sunday for fellowship. Only that you gather together with those of LIKE, PRECIOUS Faith.(2 Peter 1:1)

Shabbot Shalom! Keep looking UP!

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