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Date Posted: 20:09:21 11/22/02 Fri
Author: Sola Scriptura
Subject: Tamarisk, re Rt. Rev. "HE IS PROUD, KNOWING NOTHING" Thus sayeth the WORD
In reply to: tamarisk 's message, "Dolly" on 14:10:59 11/22/02 Fri

Although they claimed to be wise, he is nothing but a vain jangler.

You having a problem, thar, harry-tic with being consistent? That's why Christians use the Bible as their authority. Consistency, Old Chap. If you were a Bible, you would have changed what you believe over a MILLION times in just 1000 years, thar, dude. That's why everyone familiar with your Mercurial temperament knows without reservation, that you are a raving lunatic and heretic! NO STABILITY. NO CHURCH. NO WIFE. NO FAMILY. NO FRIENDS.....JUST OKLAHOMA COW CHIPS, DEAR THUNDER BOTTOM. LOL!

The Bible speaks too clearly on this subject for there to be any confusion. The problem is that churches too often are looking to sources other than the Bible for guidance. The Rt. Rev. who claims he is � called, ordained, and anointed� (implicit is his superiority to other men) uses his father, the debil�s dialectical devise of falsely accusing others of doing precisely what he is doing. It is all part of Jackie�s dialectical hand jive when he impugns innocent others of applying �the man-made traditions� when it is actually the Rt. Rev., himself who is up to his double chins in Roman Catholic sources for his heresy of women bishops. We have chronicled this fact various times including posts below that are taken from Rt. Rev.�s own quotes and sources.

�Let the woman learn in silence, with all subjection. But I do not allow a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, was in the transgression� (1 Tim. 2:11-14).

�Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak: but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also says the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord� (1 Cor. 14:34-37).

How could a woman possibly be a pastor when she is forbidden to teach or to have any authority over men? Women can only be pastors if they openly disobey the Bible�s teaching.

Further, the Lord Jesus Christ appointed no female apostles.

All of them were men.

The standards for pastors apply strictly to men.
Only a man can be the �husband of one wife� and can �rule his own house well� (1 Tim. 3:2,4; Titus 1:6).
Paul referred to human nature to support his teaching regarding women. �And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression� (1 Tim. 2:14). The woman has a different makeup than the man. She was designed for a different role in life--that of a wife and mother. Her emotional, psychological, and rational makeup are geared perfectly for this, but she was not designed for leadership. In the garden of Eden the devil deceived her.

This was not true for Adam. He sinned, but he was not deceived. Eve had allowed herself to be thrust into a position of decision making she was not supposed to occupy.

It is no coincidence that women have been responsible for starting many of the false Christian movements and have played key roles in spiritism, new age, mind science cults, and such. Human nature has not changed and neither has God�s restrictions against women preachers.

Paul commanded that his instructions were to be kept until Christ�s coming. �That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ� (1 Tim. 6:14). This command is given at the end of the epistle in which the Apostle had so clearly required that women be in subjection to men in the church (1 Tim. 2:9-15). Since Jesus has not yet appeared, we are to continue to maintain these restrictions.

Paul�s letter to Corinth, in which he spoke of women being in subjection to men, was for all Christians, not just those in Corinth. In his introduction to this epistle the Apostle tells us plainly to whom he is speaking: �Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, WITH ALL THAT IN EVERY PLACE CALL UPON THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD, both their�s and our�s� (1 Cor. 1:2). It is clear that Paul�s instructions were not intended merely for some peculiar situation at Corinth.

Galatians 3:28 says there is neither bond nor free in Christ, other passages teach that this does not mean there are no servant/master relationships. The Christian servant is free in Christ--free from the eternal wages of sin--but he is not free from his earthly position and responsibilities of servitude toward his master (Eph. 6:5-8; Col. 3:22-25; 1 Tim. 6:1,2; Tit. 2:9-10; 1 Pet. 2:18-25).

In fact, anyone who teaches against these instructions regarding submission of servants to masters is labeled proud and evil:

�Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed. And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort. IF ANY MAN TEACH OTHERWISE, AND CONSENT NOT TO WHOLESOME WORDS, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; HE IS PROUD, KNOWING NOTHING, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, perverse disputings of men of CORRUPT MINDS, AND DESTITUTE OF THE TRUTH, supposing that gain is godliness: FROM SUCH WITHDRAW THYSELF� (1 Timothy 6:1-5).

Rt. Rev. Jack Howell is a PROUD VAIN JANGLER who knows nothing. Pray that he is mercifully placed on track before it is too late. Repent of your heresy jack.

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