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Date Posted: 14:10:59 11/22/02 Fri
Author: tamarisk
Subject: Dolly

LOL!!

WRT: "Because the two names (�Andronicus and Junias�) are in the accusative form (that is, they are recipients of the verb greet), the second name appears as Junian, which is the accusative form of the *** feminine name� Junia.� (Hence a FEMALE)"

You ever notice how Rt Rev El Pavo dances around the issue. Iffin he had any knowledge of the Jewishness of the faith and the Hebrew NT, he'd see the folly of his statements. Wonder if Jackals can see the humor of G_d in the statement, "A man from a woman." Y'shua(a man) came from Nazareth(Nazaret in the fem). Thus, Y'shua is a Natsar(a Nazarene) from Nazaret(Nazareth in the fem).

It is amuzing because the most compelling question I have for Jackals is, whom has he led to the Lord with that teaching? I can tell you about the Jewish people I have reached preaching them the Gospel Jewishly. All Jackals can do is reach those as foolish and deluded as himself for NO WHERE does the Bible teach Apostolic Succession. Jackals would rather give the AUTHORITY of the office of an apostle to a woman rather than giving the term apostle to all who bore witness to Mechiach(Acts 14:4,14; 15:2--and even by Sha'ul in 1 Corinthians 11:13; 1 Thess 2:6).

Earth to Jackals--NO PLACE IN SCRIPTURE DOES IT GIVE CONTINUITY OF THE OFFICE OF AN APOSTLE AS IN NO PLACE WHERE THE CHURCHES ARE INSTRUCTED TO ORDAIN APOSTLES.

Lettuce look at another verse of Scripture:

Heb 3:1

1 Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;
(KJV)

The titles he gives to Christ, whom he would have them consider,
1. As the apostle of our profession, the prime-minister of the gospel church, a messenger and a principal messenger sent of God to men, upon the most important errand, the great revealer of that faith which we profess to hold and of that hope which we profess to have.
2. not only the apostle, but the high priest too, of our profession, the chief officer of the Old Testament as well as the New, the head of the church in every state, and under each dispensation, upon whose satisfaction and intercession we profess to depend for pardon of sin, and acceptance with God.
3. as Christ, the Messiah, anointed and every way qualified for the office both of apostle and high priest.
4. as Jesus, our Saviour, our healer, the great physician of souls, typified by the brazen serpent that Moses lifted up in the wilderness, that those who were stung by the fiery serpents might look to him, and be saved.

Lettuce look at the Strongs references:

649 apostello (ap-os-tel'-lo);

from 575 and 4724; set apart, i.e. (by implication) to send out (properly, on a mission) literally or figuratively:

KJV-- put in, send (away, forth, out), set [at liberty].

652 apostolos (ap-os'-tol-os);

from 649; a delegate; specially, an ambassador of the Gospel; officially a commissioner of Christ ["apostle"] (with miraculous powers):

KJV-- apostle, messenger, he that is sent.

4724 stello (stel'-lo);

probably strengthened from the base of 2476; properly, to set fast ("stall"), i.e. (figuratively) to repress (reflexively, abstain from associating with):

KJV-- avoid, withdrawself.

575 apo (apo');

a primary particle; "off," i.e. away (from something near), in various senses (of place, time, or relation; literal or figurative):

KJV-- (X here-) after, ago, at, because of, before, by (the space of), for (-th), from, in, (out) of, off, (up-) on (-ce), since, with. In composition (as a prefix) it usually denotes separation, departure, cessation, completion, reversal, etc.

2476 histemi (his'-tay-mee);

a prolonged form of a primary stao (stah'-o) (of the same meaning, and used for it in certain tenses); to stand (transitively or intransitively), used in various applications (literally or figuratively):

KJV-- abide, appoint, bring, continue, covenant, establish, hold up, lay, present, set (up), stanch, stand (by, forth, still, up). Compare 5087.

5087 tithemi (tith'-ay-mee);

a prolonged form of a primary theo (theh'-o) (which is used only as alternate in certain tenses); to place (in the widest application, literally and figuratively; properly, in a passive or horizontal posture, and thus different from 2476, which properly denotes an upright and active position, while 2749 is properly reflexive and utterly prostrate):

KJV-- + advise, appoint, bow, commit, conceive, give, X kneel down, lay (aside, down, up), make, ordain, purpose, put, set (forth), settle, sink down.

What is apparent from the lies of Jackals is, he is trying to make a case for Apostolic Succession today. This is obvious from his Ultra-Charismatic, Word of Faith perversion of the Book. Jackals still proves himself to be a Jew hater and needs to confess and repent of this before the Lord. When he makes a statement such as "Junia was a Christian at Rome," he fails to add the Jewish before Christian to indicate she was a "kinsmen" to Sha'ul in the sense she was a fellow Jewish believer of Y'shua.

Now, lettuce look at another word in Romans 16:7 which seems to give the Rt Rev fits. It is the word "among."

802 'ishshah (ish-shaw');

feminine of 376 or 582; irregular plural, nashiym (naw-sheem'); a woman (used in the same wide sense as 582):

KJV-- [adulter] ess, each, every, female, X many, + none, one, + together, wife, woman. Often unexpressed in English.

1722 en (en);

a primary preposition denoting (fixed) position (in place, time or state), and (by implication) instrumentality (medially or constructively), i.e. a relation of rest (intermediate between 1519 and 1537); "in," at, (up-) on, by, etc.:

KJV-- about, after, against, + almost, X altogether, among, X as, at, before, between, (here-) by (+all means), for (... sake of), + giveself wholly to, (here-) in (-to, -wardly), X mightily, (because) of, (up-) on, [openly-], X outwardly, one, X quickly, X shortly, [speedily-], X that, X there (-in, -on), through (-out), (un-) to (-ward), under, when, where (-with), while, with (-in). Often used in compounds, with substantially the same import; rarely with verbs of motion, and then not to indicate direction, except (elliptically) by a separate (and different) preposition.

1135 gune (goo-nay');

probably from the base of 1096; a woman; specially, a wife:

KJV-- wife, woman.

Maybe, just maybe, Jackals can figure out the 6 references in the Tanakh always renders it "among women, and the B'rit Hadashah(The Jewish New Testament) in its 2 occurences renders it "among" and "women" separately.

Jackals false "teachings" on who and what is an apostle while trying to make his case for Apostolic Succession and women in the office of Apostle, is from the pit of Hell. Neither is it keeping with the context of Chapter 16 of the Book of Romans.

I guess I can throw out Strongs references all day, just like Jackals. However, it proves nothing and certainly is not the Gospel of Y'shua. Jackals would do well to preach the simple message of Sha'ul, in chapter 13 of greetings and love expressed. What a lovely way of proclaiming the Gospel of Y'shua--Giving the honor and glory to the Lord, first through His Gospel Truth,--and recognizing his friends and co-laborers in that truth, lastly.

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Tamarisk, re Rt. Rev. "HE IS PROUD, KNOWING NOTHING" Thus sayeth the WORD -- Sola Scriptura, 20:09:21 11/22/02 Fri