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Subject: Trapper 500 Wheel Steering


Author:
Philip
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Date Posted: 12/10/06 14:48:48

I recently saw a Trapper 500 with wheel steering. I am intersted if anyone has tried to retro fit one - or was it an orginal factory fit? - It gives more leg room in the cockpit and might overcome she who must be endured - left right blindness!

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Subject: New Site, New Boards, please bookmark


Author:
nick
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Date Posted: 14/02/07 20:48:39

Well it is up and running, or at least most of it.

It isn't what I intended or even where I intended but I had a lot of problems getting the hosts to arrange the redirects I needed to run both my sites. I still have a couple of pages to add, one is a gallery so I'll take on any submissions. If you send them to nick@trapperyachts.org.uk it will handle the files better than hotmail.

We now have a new website, reached through http://www.trapperyachts.org.uk

We have a new set of boards reached through that site or if you want to go direct you should bookmark http://tallshipsailing.co.uk/trapperyachts/yabb/YaBB.pl

Please use the new boards for any new postings, these ones will be kept as a useful resource of archived information.

Apparently we just about made 8 years on freeservers, almost to the day.

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Subject: trapper 300


Author:
paul hagan
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Date Posted: 13/02/07 19:33:11

I have been looking for a trapper 300 but really don`t know much about them only that they look really good. As a new sailer is this the sort of boat I want or perhaps some thing else would be more suitable, I only have a trapper 300 budget to work on. I am interested in sailing in the west coast of Scotland and living on the boat is the tyrapper really what I want.

P.S. what problems are there to look out for.
Any help is appreciated....Paul

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Subject: pop ups and porn ads


Author:
nick
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Date Posted: 8/02/07 0:31:57

I had an email from somebody who was having trouble with the website producing pop ups and ads of an unsavoury nature.

I had a look, and the banner ads were ok but a popup or two got through my pop up blocker and a particularly annoying one that tried to download some software called diskcheck or somesuch seemed particularly aggressive.

I have removed it from my PC using adaware and emailed the service provider to ask them about their policy regarding these annoyances. I think they will just tell me to pay up.

I have had a new domain registered for sometime now, hosted elsewhere ( www.trapperyachts.org.uk )and it might be time to move, but I'm reluctant to lose the ranking we get in google, achieved by various links and simply being around for so long I think.

I shall start getting links to the new domain in an effort to get it further up google, but any linking others can offer would be appreciated.

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Subject: No More Leaks! (In the Windows)


Author:
Neil
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Date Posted: 13/02/07 11:51:26

Those of you who are regular forumites will remember I've had an ongoing dilema with our windows. I replaced them myself & they are water tight!

8mm perspex lightly bolted to hull with UV stabalised neoprene sheeting using interscrews for good cosmetic finish. Maring grade Silicone sealant spread around exterior for final touches.

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Subject: links for website


Author:
nick
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Date Posted: 11/02/07 18:33:43

I've bought a copy of Frontpage and i'm having a go at sorting out a new website with it (don't hold your breath but I will get there)

Could you suggest any links we might put in that aren't already there?

I can be much more generous this time and have quite a few, so I can go wider in the remit. I found that the C&C one seemed to have got derailed when they changed their url so I've sorted that one now too.

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Subject: T300 - engine replacement?


Author:
John Woodhouse
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Date Posted: 28/10/06 15:05:12

The original Yanmar YSB8 fitted to Star Trapper is
showing signs of senility. Not bad after nearly thirty
years & umpteen hours use.

Gearbox oil seems to be leaking into the flywheel housing
& getting into the starter motor. Has anybody experience
of this?

Maybe it’s time to fit a new engine. The Yanmar 1GM10
appears the obvious choice.

Any thoughts, recommendations & suggestions most welcome.

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Subject: Cutless bearing Trapper 500


Author:
Erwin
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Date Posted: 7/02/06 20:04:19

Hi all,

Is there anyone of you who has ever replaced the cutless bearing on a T500?
'Banzaï' was build in 1977 and I need to replace hers.
I have removed my propeller and am thinking of fabricating a puller tool to remove the cutless bearing.
Strange thing is that I do not find a screw on the stern tube. I do find a little hole, where COULD have been a screw, but if that was the case, it's broken.

Pls advise.

Kind regards,

Erwin - in deep trouble I guess...

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Subject: Hydrovane


Author:
Colin Griffiths
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Date Posted: 20/09/06 22:58:51

Hi folks,
Does anyone have a 'Hydrovane' steering system on their Trapper 500? With the normal projecting rudder?(Or any other wind steering system that works well, with a separate rudder?)
Thanks for the replies,
Colin.
(Nimbus Two)

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Subject: bow head fitting for Trapper 501


Author:
christian
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Date Posted: 6/02/07 21:36:48

I need a new bow head fitting, as the old one has been bend while it was removed. Has anybody any ideas where to get one made or can you get one anywhere ready made???

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Subject: Trapper 28 prop


Author:
colum (Colum Mcevoy)
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Date Posted: 13/01/07 17:18:21

I am trying to remove the old pro from the shaft of my trapper 28. This is a small prop which turned at 5000 revs approx when I had the old dolphin petrol engine. I have fitted a new diesel and need to fit a 12 x 10 3 blade in place of the old prop., I removed the outer and inner nuts holding the prop on the shaft, sprayed lots of WD40 and then using a set of pullers tried to remove the prop. Nothing happened, I tried tapping it with a hammer and then a bit of brute force.
it has not budged one inch. Have I missed something. I have not seen a keyway or a pin which would explain its lack of movement.

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Subject: Trapper 500 spinnaker rigging


Author:
John Beresford
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Date Posted: 24/01/07 12:50:11

I have purchased a full sized spinnaker and pole for my late Trapper 500 (with 501 internal layout). I am interested in what owners might recommend for the uphaul and downhaul rigging, ie led back to cockpit or mast-foot cleating arangements and in particular where to anchor the downhaul? Also there is little room for mounting the winches for the spinnaker sheets aft of the genoa winches. I would be most greatful if owners experience on these issues are shared.

We race the boat in Weymouth/Portand harbour every week for 6 months of the year and have found that without the spinnacker we are usually dissadvantaged on handicap on long downwind legs. Upwind we hold our handicap well.
Thank you
John Beresford

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Subject: Trapper 28


Author:
Ken Snead
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Date Posted: 25/01/07 18:06:19

Any advise on fitting a new cutlas bearing to the prop on my 1972 Trapper T28

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Subject: Boarding ladder for T500


Author:
Graham H
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Date Posted: 14/01/07 20:38:38

I was thinking of fitting a bathing ladder to the transom of my T500 but am concerned about the fouling the rudder. Anyone tried this?

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Subject: Trapper 500, Navaho, for sale.


Author:
Simon Powell
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Date Posted: 10/01/07 17:01:35

Navaho is for sale due to lack of time in which to enjoy her, also she is in Gosport,Hampshire, and I am in Ambleside, Cumbria !
Her engine is a Yanmar 9hp fitted new in 2000. Raymarine speed/log,depth(2005). Unused Bombard dinghy (2006). New Harken 40 winches (2006). Sensible offers around £12,000
She is ashore in Gosport, please email or phone if you would like to view her or require more information.
Simon. 015394 33279 or 07969 866880

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Subject: Stern Gland


Author:
Richard
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Date Posted: 5/01/07 13:44:51

The stern gland on my Trapper 28 leaks and is very difficult to get to. I can stem the leak if I tighten the handle on my Stern Gland Lubricator and this seems OK.

As she is coming out of the water in a few weeks I wanted to get it repaired, the two engineers that have seen the gland do not know what type it is (one mentioned that it has a pipe coming out of it), Some other yachties have said it will leak and that all I should do is keep putting the grease in and not worry.

Can anybody offer any help on this mystery.

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Subject: 501 chain plates


Author:
Vaughan Tudor-Williams
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Date Posted: 6/01/07 17:02:33

The survey says I have to replace or at least re-seat the chain plates on Petite Folie. There is a visible gap between the plate and the deck on one side and evidence that water is getting in on both. It looks to me like I have to remove various bits of internal trim to get at "business end" of the chain plates and any hints and tips as to how to do this would be much appreciated.

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Subject: Trapper 501 Rudder


Author:
Ken Cotter (Help)
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Date Posted: 3/01/07 12:54:44

Hi all,

We recently lost our rudder for our Trapper 501. We need to obtain the specification for constructing a new rudder or information on where we could obtain a mould (or second hand rudder)?

Any feedback would be appreciated.
Ken (Cork harbour,Ireland)

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Subject: Trapper 28 prop


Author:
Colum Mcevoy Ireland (Colum Mcevoy)
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Date Posted: 28/12/06 20:59:52

Hi everyone. I am planning to buy a 3 blade R/H prop for my trapper 28.
I need to check if a 12" diameter is the best size and is "10" the pitch size figure.
Is 12 x 10 3 blade the most suitable prop for this boat.

I noticed that someone else was using a 12 x 8 on a trapper 240

Any help would be gratefull.

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Subject: So what's involved in replacing a Yanmar YSB 8 with a 1GM10?


Author:
James Green
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Date Posted: 20/12/06 11:14:19

Aware as we all must be that the original YSB 8 engines are getting long in the tooth

John, do you think you could let everyone know just what additional work had to be carried out to STAR TRAPPER over and above the purchase of the 1GM10 to replace your previous YSB 8?

And, if you don't mind, giving some indication of the overall cost of the changeover.

Was it necessary to replace the propeller shaft as well as the propeller?

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Subject: Merry Christmas


Author:
Nick
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Date Posted: 22/12/06 9:28:25

A merry Christmas to all our readers and all the very best wishes for 2007.

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Subject: Help ! Urgent need of the P and E measure, T500


Author:
Anders Nilsson
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Date Posted: 20/12/06 23:49:09

Hi
when ordering new sails I was convinced that the measures was the same as the C&C 27. My sailmaker told me that it cant be from my measured dimensions of the forstay.
Tried to find the dimensions on the net, without success.
I have 76 T500 with Kemp mast (yellowish)

So, if some kind Trapper fellow has the dimensions please drop them here, so I can put my order.

Anders

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Subject: Trapper 500 - Rebedding Front of Keel


Author:
Rob McGuinness
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Date Posted: 20/12/06 20:46:15

I have just become the owner of a Trapper 500 and very pleased with her I am too. My boat does suffer from the proverbial grin at the front of the keel where it meets the hull. Can this be dealt with by me or does it need more professional assistance. My survey suggests that the keel bolts are all OK and have been replaced within the last 10 years or so but I do not want any deterioration due to salt water ingress. A step by step guide to what needs to be done would be good, particularly any ideas on tightening the front keel bolt.
I am sure to have loads of questions as I start my round of improvements so any help will be very gratefully received.
Rob

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Subject: T300 propeller for sale


Author:
John Woodhouse
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Date Posted: 9/12/06 16:36:09

With my new engine now fitted I have the previous prop. available. Two seasons use only and perfect. Details are 12" dia x 8 pitch, left hand. Shaft diameter 7/8". Make is RADICE part no OTM12L. If £50 sounds reasonable I will donate half to the RNLI. Incidentally my new prop is identical but the r/h version.

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Subject: Tiller for TS240


Author:
Sandy Law
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Date Posted: 6/12/06 23:08:50

We bought a Trapper TS240 last year and need a new tiller.
Does anyone know where I can buy a new one

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Subject: skin fittings - a warning


Author:
John Woodhouse
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Date Posted: 3/12/06 11:10:07

With Star Trapper ashore I was polishing the hull by hand. There were two plastic skin fittings just above the water line on the starboard quarter. One was the bilge pump outlet & the other the gas bottle locker drain. The flange on the former literally fell off as I touched it. The inner fitting, accessible through an access panel from the rear of the cockpit easily pulled away. If this had given way in any sort of a seaway does not bear thinking about. I have used the past tense as both now replaced with bronze. A similar fitting draining the anchor locker was changed a few years ago.

Worth checking!

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Subject: TS 240 Centre of Gravity


Author:
dave rochester
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Date Posted: 23/11/06 15:24:09

Hello,

I am building a trailer for a 240. Any ideas where the C of G is relative to the visible keel with 30 cm of keel showing

Any info would be much appreciated.

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Subject: TS240 Keel Position


Author:
paul
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Date Posted: 6/11/06 15:45:20

Hi all!
With earlier keel ram probs fixed and 'Nautibouy' out of the water on Saturday I now need to consider setting the keel retention pin position.

Normal mooring is about 15 inch mud on shingle. Tide out she leans to port mostly when at rest and the pin has been wearing the GRP of plate case into a 1.5+ inch slot on starboard side and about 1 inch on port side.ie slope down to port. Since at mooring prevailing wind is SW and tide out runs South I guess the wear is on downhill side of gentle slope East to West of mooring area.
Highest part of bulb is about 5inch under hull.

I have had made up two x 4 in square stainless plates with horizontally welded in tube sections to take the pin.
These will be screwed and bonded in position after 'slots'are repaired. However on Port side of casing, cut out for replacement keel box with stainless one was done rather over enthusiastically and includes the pin position. I will glass this back in securely ( it had come adrift and was patched upto last to end of season).

I seek your advise / comments on :
How high can the keel be set bearing in mind raising keel position raises the CG?
Is there any other reason not to raise it until stopped by keelbox touching U/S of top level in housing? This should reduce heel angle at low tide and perhaps reduce side loads on pin.

Cheers

Paul

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Subject: Trapper 300 For Sale


Author:
John Bridges (Trapper 300 For Sale)
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Date Posted: 12/11/06 12:49:36

'Joburg' is a lovely well cared for boat with an impressive inventory and is being offered for sale. As the engine appears to have developed starting problems and won't turn over she is being sold as a project. The time is probably right for a new engine as the one fitted is a Yanmar yse8. £5500 ono cradle and tender also available. Afloat in Plymouth
John 07900 872151 or john@setsailing.com

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Subject: Trapper 500 " Banzaï " for sale


Author:
Erwin Casteels
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Date Posted: 11/11/06 23:02:17

Banzaï is for sale after years of happy sailing in the Netherlands and Belgium. She is about to be replaced by a slightly larger sailing yacht, a Winner 9.50.
She is in excellent shape, pictures can be found on http://www.freewebs.com/trapper500/

Happy sailing,

Erwin

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Subject: Coach roof Cracking


Author:
Mark (Concerned)
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Date Posted: 11/10/06 12:05:01

I wonder if anybody has experience of cracking in coach roof of Trapper 500, late 1970's. Possible cause:- is it fundamental design or it is an issue of too tight shrouds or anything else??? Does it get worse, does it reoccur after good quality patching and filling?

Mark

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Subject: Tall Ship Sailing


Author:
Nick
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Date Posted: 3/11/06 9:03:06

As some of you may know, when I sold my 501 I decided to go on a sailing holiday each year to make up for it.

Since then I've been crewing on a tall ship for my holiday each year, a 62 metre Brigantine called the Swan fan Makkum. Those of you who sail the solent during Cowes week may know her, she has been Skandia's hospitality ship there for a number of years.

Well now the owner has sold her too, she is in Genoa awaiting handover to her new Italian owners.

Feeling somewhat bereft, after all she is a cracking ship, I've set up a small business venture with her first mate to keep in touch with the "family" of tall ships.

I don't think it will make any money, but hopefully it will cover expenses.

So, if you have ever fancied trying your hand at something a little bigger please keep us in mind. We aim to put interested parties in touch with some of the ships that don't see much in the way of British customers, although everyone on board will usually speak English as a form of International language. Most of the ships we work with are Dutch.

www.tallshipsailing.co.uk

Next year will be our first sailing season.

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Subject: TS250 Rudder Stock


Author:
Simon
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Date Posted: 30/10/06 14:30:24

Hi

I have just purchased a TS250 and have had a problem with the rudder gudgeon tearing away from the rudder stock. I had it welded up, but broke again.

Has anyone had similar problems and if so how were they overcome? I can only think of going for thicker stainless and trying to beef up the joint somehow.

Simon

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Subject: Trapper 500/1 charter


Author:
Colin Griffiths
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Date Posted: 28/10/06 21:22:37

Would anyone be interested in chartering my Trapper 500/1, Jersey based, next summer? It looks as if I can't use her very much and would much appreciate that she is used by a current Trapper owner. Can offer a mud berth in St Helier harbour or a swinging mooring in St Catherine,s. She is bilge keeled with wheel steering.Bukh 20 hp diesel. Brunton Variprop. Auto helm. Kemp packaway and power-main. roller jib. Wind instruments and Navman navigation.
Send me an e-mail,
Cheers
Colin.

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Subject: Pamino is for Sale


Author:
Richard Swire
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Date Posted: 21/09/06 15:58:05

Pamino is sadly for sale. She is going to be replaced with a Fastnet 34, which I liken to a Trapper on steroids. With permission I would like to keep in touch with you all at the forum and if you see a lunatic waving who is not on a trapper, it will likely be me.

Happy sailing

Richard and Pamino

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Subject: T500 Headsails


Author:
Ed Bowness
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Date Posted: 10/10/06 19:35:22

I am on the lookout for reasonably priced, second hand, hanked-on headsails of reasonable quality for my T500 ('Florence'). I need a replacement No.1 (I think that this is a 150% genoa)and also a No.3 (to take the place of one that is particularly knackered). I am also looking for a spinniker (although this may be a bit of a long shot) as I can blow straight through my current one. I would be interested in examples that you can't blow through.

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Subject: Sprayhood pics (last request)


Author:
Anders Nilsson
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Date Posted: 18/10/06 13:22:57

Would really appreciate if someone could send me pics of a sprayhood arrangement for a Trapper 500.

Adress: andersonilsson1@spray.se

Best
Anders

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Subject: correct minor mistakes in history of trapper


Author:
paul anstey
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Date Posted: 17/09/06 23:57:43

I came across this web page and after reading it I thought I would make a few comments as my memory is at odds with a few of your notes.
The iron keel was introduced for purely economic reasons. The lead keel became just to expensive during one of those blips in material costs. The flat bottom was more to get the weight as low as possible than for any other reason (iron is a lot lighter than lead).
There is an inferance that I lied about the length. I only ever believed her to be 27' 4". Just before I left the company a marketing director was appointed and the designation somehow became 27'11", not my doing!!!
We did build a second mold in Poole and infact used the original canadian mold as a holding jig to keep the still pliable hulls in shape while the bulkheads and interiors were installed.
While I was there the Rustler logo was never molded into any of the hulls.
The factory at Denmark Lane was lost after a fire and the production moved to Cobbs Quay. We owned a plant at Sterte (still in Poole) where we did the moldings but this was sold just before the company went into recievership. The assets were subsequently bought by Granary Holdings. (Granary already owned the Deacons Boatyard site). I left at the end of 1976. At that time all operations of Trapper were still in Poole. I left to follow a very good job offer in The US.
Commercially the biggest mistake we made was not building a little powerboat to compete with a small startup company on West Quay Road called Sunseeker.
My mother and I designed the original logo. Its shape shanged over the years but mainly because sailmakers always seemed to get the proportions different interpreting it from a couple of inches to a couple of feet. I remember the kitchen table discussion and early sketches quite well.
These days I am a yacht Surveyor in Florida. Every now and again I get the urge to build some boats. Usually my wife talks me out of it.
Paul

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Subject: mk II dolphin engine manual


Author:
Keith
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Date Posted: 13/10/06 19:14:24

Hi has anyone got a copy of a mk II dolphin engine manual available. I have just aquired the engine with the gearbox but it has no manual.

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Subject: Category


Author:
Richard
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Date Posted: 5/10/06 17:35:49

Does anybody know what category (A, B, C, etc)a Trapper 28 would classify as?

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Subject: cookies ads and "shit"


Author:
nick
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Date Posted: 10/09/06 15:39:30

I've seen a couple of comments about this now which seems to be some sort of oblique reference to something I assume is considered a fault with either the forum or the website.

If any of you have a complaint how about simply making it?

The website and the forum are both run on free sites, so I think it not unreasonable to expect a few ads.

If you use a decent browser you can block most of them should you choose to do so, it isn't rocket science. Similarly cookies can be dealt with.

I do have a site that isn't free, I've been paying for it for 3 years now out of my own pocket but there doesn't appear to be any further development likely. If the problem with ads is the site that hosts the website rather than the forum then perhaps I should just transfer it there.

I'm about to start using that same service provider for a new business venture so I may end up developing a new site based on that one myself. Otherwise it seems a bit of a waste of money.

I haven't owned a trapper for over 3 years now, I'm happy to pass this on to someone else but my only fear is that it will simply die out when they change boats. As I started it, I'm probably more likely to keep it going. There are always those out there ready to criticise though, perhaps it's time they put some time and money and tenacity into it themselves.

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Subject: T500/501 Cunningham


Author:
Neil
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Date Posted: 22/08/06 20:26:13

Thinking of getting 2 or 3 cringles put in the sail to enable a better shap to be set.

We are still on roller boom reefing, so trying to find ways to improve the luf tension when reefed.

Anyone done this yet?

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Subject: Prop for a Trapper 28


Author:
Colum Mcevoy Ireland (Colum Mcevoy)
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Date Posted: 17/09/06 16:56:10

Hi There folks,
I am fitting a new prop to my trapper 28 which now has a nanni 10 hp diesel. The shaft is 19mm thick and I was planning on putting a 12 x 10 3 blade. Could anybody recommend a good a retail outlet where I could source one.

Regards
Colum

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Subject: Pics of sprayhood W A N T E D


Author:
Anders Nilsson
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Date Posted: 25/09/06 23:40:29

As I intend to make a complete sprayhood from scratch I would appreciate if some Trapper fellow could send me some close up pics of a descent sprayhood arrangement. It would be a bit tuff to do it without anything to copy. I would not reinvent wheel if I don't have to. Of course I'll put them on Trapper improvement page if someone else need them.

Best Anders Nilsson

andersonilsson1@spray.se

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Subject: Trapper 500 engine


Author:
Ian Matheson
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Date Posted: 19/09/06 12:55:43

I have a Trapper 500, Tramontane, which I keep near Oban. I bought her as an ex demonstrator from Trappers in 1977. She was then named ‘Promise’ in order to correspond with the brochure slogan ‘Promise of a good life.’

She still has the original Yanmar YSB8 engine, which has had very little done to it other than a few cylinder head gaskets and valve grinds. I now need to rebuild or replace this engine. I fancy fitting a Beta 13, but I don’t think it will fit. There must be lots of Trapper 500’s which have had replacement engines fitted. I would like to get some advice from anyone who has done so. Can anyone help?

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Subject: Trapper Trailer


Author:
Joe May
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Date Posted: 13/09/06 11:22:05

I have recently acquired a 1975 Trapper 28 and am currently in the process of getting a Trailer made for it. I know this has probably come up before but I would greatly appreciate it if anyone could either post here or email me the dimensions of a trailer for this type of boat.

Regards.

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Subject: Windex angle


Author:
Barry
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Date Posted: 17/09/06 16:20:09

Hi,

I'm replacing the damaged Windex windvane on my newly acquired 300. Does anyone know what the closest angle to the wind the 300 will sail?
Thanks

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Subject: paint colour


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Keith
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Date Posted: 16/09/06 15:05:36

Hi, I'm looking to paint Querida over the winter but can't find any reference to the colour scheme. It's bright red and I wondered if any one knows the colour code/identidy for these bright red trappers.

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Subject: Solent Hard - On The Cheap?


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Neil
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Date Posted: 16/09/06 14:01:43

Can anyone recommend good value winter hard standing in the solent?

It'll be her first time out with us, and i've a job list as long as both arms!

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Subject: TS 240 Keel ram fixing - Warning!


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Paul
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Date Posted: 1/09/06 12:28:38

Hi all,

The saga continues! Removed ram mounting bracket which
was notionally attached to a carbon steel plate encapsulated in GRP to the rear face of the keel housing.

Found a vertical tear in the GRP about 8mm wide, ovalled holes in GRP which had slotted into crack. Ram bracket pulled off with 3 studs with including the outboard half nuts 'holding' the ram bracket.

Was able to remove one half of the carbon steel plate through the split and discovered that what at first impressions was a vertical split in the plate on centre line of studs was actually two pieces of plate.

On the removed piece all surfaces corroded and outer face had layers of what looked like mill scale. No evidence of any bonding at all on any surface.

MORE IMPORTANTLY THE TWO ABUTTING PLATE HALVES HAD TAPPED HOLES CENTERED ON THE VERTICAL JOINT LINE. THIS IS THE WORST 'COWBOY' CONSTRUCTION I CAN IMAGINE!

It would appear that the TWO pieces of carbon steel plate were butted together and glassed in probably without any pre bonding to the keel housing. The whole was allowed to cure AND THEN THE THREE HOLES WERE DRILLED AND TAPPED ON THE JOINT LINE!!!!!

The studs plain studs were inserted using screwdriver slots which as tightened would tend to lift the plate. Half nuts were fitted to retain the bracket and allow clearance for the ram body on its pivot bolt.

I cant prove this was the original construction but if it was ( and it certainly looks likely) it would be advisable for you all to check your boat for signs of a problem.

I am having a new st steel plate made with the studs welded in. Will cut out the old encapsulation and remaining half plate, clean up, abrade and bond the new plate to the keel housing before encapsulating.

John at C B Marine at Chi Marina who is making the new plate identified my 'mill scale' as a separate piece of (est )2mm carbon steel to make the 10mm carbon plate up to 12mm!!!

Sorry if this is alarmist but it could help you from having no keel lift capability.

Paul

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Subject: Rudder Bearings


Author:
Alistair C
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Date Posted: 31/08/06 13:07:09

Hi Folks,
I've just entered the world of Trapper ownership,
I believe that the lower rudder bearing is a bit wobbly,
has anyone got a source for these? I'm presuming they will need to be made up.

All the posts in this forum helped me make up my mind on the type of boat!

Cheers
Ali

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Subject: strange trapper


Author:
johnT
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Date Posted: 28/08/06 19:56:14

ive just looked at a boat advertised on @boatshedchichester.com : which strangely enough is at Christchurch

its advertised as a 1970 Trapper 500 £15950

it has:
stepped coach roof
lazerette locker
skegged rudder
no sheer
wooden toerail
differant internal layout
and lots of other differances

what is it?
gimme a clue billy

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Subject: TS240 Keel Hydraulics


Author:
Paul
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Date Posted: 26/08/06 14:00:54

Hi all!

Went down to Nautibuoy anticipating a super sail on Friday only to find weight of keel held on pin. I normally leave this pressurised to take some load off the grp which is gradually slotting. Plan to sort this over winter.

Pump was very slack and would not operate keel even to take load off pin. Checked reservoir which at max finger depth of 1.5 inch showed no fluid. Checked viually at rear of keel housing and inner transom for leakage - nothing seen.

Filled reservoir with 0.75 litre of light hydraulic oil.
Pump seemed back to normal feel for three pumps but it then locked and no movement of keel. Reease valve and got two to three secs of air then nowt. Pump again did three pumps but to no avail. Repeated 4 times - no difference.

Is it poss that the system needs bleeding? how do I do this?
Could there be a significant leak out of sight ie in the pipe run between liner and hull?
Am I having a pump problem?

All advice comment gratefully recieved

cheers

Paul

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Subject: For Sale. Trapper 500 - 'Mishka'


Author:
Ron & Rick Nevitt (Sad.)
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Date Posted: 24/08/06 13:18:08

Ron & Rick Nevitt are sad to announce that Mishka, their jointly owned Trapper 500, has got to be sold. After 7 years of safe and happy cruising on the South Coast from Chichester to Plymouth, the one trip to Cherbourg and back and the odd race, including the 2004 Round the Island Race when we finished 115th out of 1500 starters.(We have a Beken signed photo of Mishka passing The Needles to remind us.) Hopefully she will fetch £12,950 but we are prepared to haggle. For full details of equipment and 46 photos, please go to http://chichester.boatshed.com/viewboat.php?boat=16607. She is to be found in the 27-34 feet section -Ref 16607. Mishka can be viewed ashore at Chichester Harbour. Contact Ron on ronnevitt@tiscali.co.uk or Rick on rick.nev@tiscali.co.uk

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Subject: T500 Forward Hatch


Author:
Phil
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Date Posted: 8/06/06 16:33:49

I would like to update the forward hatch on the T500 from the original opague fibreglass version to a more current style ( Houdini etc) has anyone tried this and overcome the arc of the deck shape to allow a flat hatch to be fitted.

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Subject: Engine for Trapper 500


Author:
Norman Martin
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Date Posted: 9/07/06 11:23:21

Just to amplify my previous post.......

I'm looking for guidance if anyone has experience of fitting the Yanmar 1GM10, whether they find this adequate or are the bigger 2YM15 / 3YM20 more desireable / possible.

Any comments re installation would also be welcome.

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Subject: Trapper 500: Stanchions and Sternglands


Author:
Peter Coley
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Date Posted: 26/08/06 18:36:16

Hi there

We recently returned to Chichester from a terrific three weeks in the Scillies. On the way back two things happened which I'm looking for help with.

One of our stanchions broke - the base had rotted to the point where the screws no longer had good purchase and a shove on the guardrail as we pulled away from the pontoon at Falmouth saw it rip out unpleasantly. Does anyone know where I might source a stanchion to replace it - possibly the type that screws onto the toerail? Also, if I want to screw a replacement onto the original plate, how do I access the underside of the side deck, what with the inner skin cabin lining we all love so much...?

I've crossed the thread on my existing sterngland grease cup (doh). Any thoughts would be welcome on how to find a replacement, plus any tips on fitting it.

Best

Pete C

Trapper 'Geliefde' moored Dell Quay.

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Subject: TS240 Rudder


Author:
Dave
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Date Posted: 31/05/06 0:15:56

My TS240 rudder has been repaired by someone and is now looking decidedly in need of replacement - does anyone have a clever design for a home made one or even a good blade lying around?

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Subject: YSM8 - Bleeding Fuel Lines!


Author:
Neil
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Date Posted: 23/07/06 17:55:33

JUST before we slipped lines on Friday night the engine fought for breath and died - I waited until Sat morning before attempting to bleed the fuel system as it was my first time -- Yanmar YSM 8 - Single cylinder.

Bled through to the injectors and high pressure fuel line and it did start. The instructions talked about rotating the fly wheel to 'hear' the sound of the injectors and 'feel' the differences in tension ahead etc.

Used the hand crank but got no resistance and heard nothing.

After the engine started she spent a few minutes getting back on her feet. Loosing rev's then gaining them. After about 5-mins she was running as normal, I ran her ahead (in-gear) and put the batteries on to charge.

1) Is this rev cutting/returning issue normal after bleeding the fuel system?

2) WHat should I do to FEEL the resitance and HEAR the injectors - I must bne missing a step but the manual wasn't much help!

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Subject: Trapper Meet


Author:
Richard Swire
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Date Posted: 7/08/06 11:05:24

Due to preassures of work I have been unable to do any more re a meeting in September. If any one else wishes to pick up the poisened chalice, please do.

Pamino is off to Alderney 14th Aug, weather permitting, for 10 days of Chanel Island hoping. Any one else going to be in the area?

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Subject: Business opportunity?


Author:
nick
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Date Posted: 3/08/06 14:06:05

deacons have asked me to post this.........



TRAPPER 250 SPLIT HULL MOULD
NEEDS NEW HOME
(GOOD WORKABLE ORDER)

Contact Steve/Sean

Deacons Boatyard
Bursledon Bridge
Southampton
Hants
SO31 8AZ

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Subject: spotting trappers in the solent 3.7.06


Author:
nick
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Date Posted: 3/08/06 9:33:59

This is going to make less sense than it was going to because I didn't write the name of the boat down, but here goes.

I was on the bridge of the Swan fan Makkum (large Brigantine, black hulled)in the solent yesterday and in the morning on our way to Cowes from Soton Docks we had a trapper sail very close to take a look.

Of course I waved because it was a trapper, but they probably just thought I was a friendly Dutchman!

I think it was a 300, but I've often looked down from the deck of the Swan and thought, "that's a nice little yacht", only to find out it was a 40 or 50 footer.

Anyway, blue hulled, name in white on the side, expensive looking sails.

Hope you had a good day in the Solent. We certainly did but it looked a bit rough at times later on for the smaller boats.

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Subject: Major Leak - Windows


Author:
Neil Smith
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Date Posted: 24/07/05 21:40:23

Hi,

Just had new windows fitted to SAMARA (#497) last week by a boat yard on the IOW. Woke up at 0300 this morning with rain water streaming in through all the new windows - I do not exagerate. Cushions soaked on both sides and I don't fit in the forepeak - so a wet cold unpleasant night for me :-(

They appear to have applied some sealant but it's obviously not working.

What is the best way for these guys to fit these windows? Someone in the marina was talking about high density foam... I have not yet paid their bill and will hold off until they finish the job properly. Any advice would be most welcome.

Neil

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Subject: new prop


Author:
dale
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Date Posted: 25/07/06 20:25:17

Can anyone tell me what prop i will need for a trapper 500 with a kubota 12 engine & 2-1 gearbox. i have been quoted all from a 11*8 to a 12*13 i know that the trapper is limited but im not sure whether 12 is as big as i can go

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Subject: T300's in Plymouth UK going from strength to strength!


Author:
James Green
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Date Posted: 28/07/06 19:11:38

Just thought the rest of the Trapper world would like to know:-.

The local Trapper 300 class in Plymouth has developed notable momentum in 2006, with 8 or more boats moored in the port, and growing turnouts in both local handicap and class racing. Indeed the class racing has been particularly enjoyable, with boats being family sailed, often only with roller reefing genoas and some without spinnakers - the emphasis is on having fun - (for all the family) and has led to some close racing.

The design has been welcomed for being rewarding to sail, big enough to sleep on board, but small enough to be able to run economically and to sail shorthanded.

A passage race or two are planned, with the intention to provide an efficient cruise in company for those who like a sense of purpose, or for those who would like support in making some of their first coastal passages.

The self-help theme continues through the winter, with owners discussing best laying up sites, moorings, mods to the boats or simply offering advice based upon individual experience.

All in all, we think its a good time to be a T300 owner moored in Plymouth!

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Subject: Bristol channel sailing


Author:
Mike
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Date Posted: 14/07/06 19:14:15

I'm thinking of moving my T300 from Fareham to Watchet next year. I keep hearing horror stories about the tides in the Bristol Channel. Has anyone experience of sailing in this area and the choice of Watchet as a home port.

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Subject: Drying out


Author:
Chris Fagg
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Date Posted: 12/07/06 15:14:15

I have a Trapper 300 with an original lead fin keel. I want to dry out against a wall to clean her bottom. Does anyone have experience of this?

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