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Subject: T500 Tiller Sheered Off In Poole!


Author:
Neil Smith
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Date Posted: 15/08/05 13:00:10

So I was on my first summer holiday onboard Samara (T500/501), and had made it to Poole. The weather kept us there for a bit, and with west veering NW predicted for 3 days I knew the trip to weigmouth was off unless we wanted a 12hour beat after rounding St Albans.

As we slipped lines at the town quay and headed out to the main harbour channel I was under power doing about 3 knots over the ground. There was swell present due to the stink pot scramble after the Poole bridge had lifted, and I was feeling a LOT of resistence on the helm. Going ahead with the tiller between my knees, it felt like I was steering her astern - she voilently kicked from port to Stdb. As I corrected the violent kick to port, the tiller swung to starboard, knocked my leg out of the way, crashed into the starboard locker, and SHEERED OFF!

Yes - it broke off where the metal bracket finished. I can only assume that there was some water ingress and weakening against the tiller at that point, but I put her in neutral and prepared to run forward and drop the hook. Alas, I had no time as the brown sea Island ferry came towards me and hovered as my boat driffted in the middle of the channel. I looked the skipper on the bridge straight in the eye, and raised the remainder of the tiller in my right hand aloft! The HM RIB put us back on the quay and I bought a saw to cut back to good wood, and used the hand drill I had on board to fit the bracket back.

I still don't know what caused the problem. Moored up the rudder feels ok - I haven't had her long, so it's hard to say if its worse than before. Under sail she's OK, but with the tiller at least 18" shorter than before, I think the loss in leverage makes the helm feel harder. Under Power she still feels quite heavy (more so than sail - but maybe thats down to speed... is that normal? Balanced between my knees, it's quite heavy moving under power. So I'm left with a few questions...

1. Where do I go to ghet a new tiller made up - and can anybody provide me with a plan?

2. Should I dry-out and drop the rudder to look at the bushes?

3. Any of this sounding familiar to anybody?

Your informed opinions would be greatly appreciated. This incedent asside we had a wonderful 2 weeks - and to be honest it all added to the fun. Breaking the new to the father in law that his '84 and completley unreliable outboard is in at least 15m of water of Newtown creek was not easy yesterday, but he took it well :-)

Back to work...

Neil

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Subject: Trapper Meet in Yarmouth late September


Author:
Richard Swire
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Date Posted: 18/08/05 15:20:53

Hands up all of those that would consider meeting mark 2 without the F7 winds this time.

Contact details either the forum or rs@swireassociates.co.uk

Considering the 24/25th Sep or maybe first week of Oct

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Subject: Subject: information about Trapper 700


Author:
Harry ten Hof
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Date Posted: 29/08/04 14:49:52

I am looking for all information about the 35 foot Trapper 700 centrebaord
built in 1979
Lots of thanks
Harry (Holland)

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Subject: Where is 'Petite Folie'


Author:
Jeanette Garner
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Date Posted: 28/07/05 23:43:51

Does anyone know the whereabouts of 'Petite Folie'?

She's a 501, was our family boat, and sold at Deacons about 3 years ago.

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Subject: TS240 luff rope foresails for sale


Author:
Henry & Mary Brown
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Date Posted: 24/06/05 23:39:46

Having bought a furling system we have these sails for sale - we'd like them to be used and not to clutter up our spare room - contribution to the furling set up also welcome.
No 1. 4.4 m foot. Sail number.
No 2. 3.2 m foot. Small repair at top. Blue leech strip; thin coloured stripes.
No 3. 3 m foot, battens, one missing. Sail number and trapper logo.
Working jib 2.7m
All offers considered!
Storm jib 2m as new! (maybe we should keep this, or maybe buy one that fits around the furled genoa?)

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Subject: TRAPPER 500


Author:
SEVERINE
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Date Posted: 7/08/05 14:18:05

Hello,

We have a trapper 500 (1977) and we would like to sale it, is there someone interested??

We are in the south of France, between Cannes and Saint Tropez...

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Subject: TS240 Storage Bins


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Tim Ellis
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Date Posted: 3/08/05 13:41:43

I am trying to refurbish the interior of 'Boobytrap' and address the lack of storage space. A previous owner removed the original storage bins and installed a shelf with fiddle rail. I'd like to go back to the storage bin/tray idea but the originals did not come with the boat.
Now this might be a bit of a long shot, but has anyone else removed theirs that are now surplus to requirements? Or has anyone come up with a cunning solution for better storage above the backrests? I am going to try the cave locker idea below the backrests mentioned in a previous message. Suggestions most welcome!

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Subject: Advice about taking the mud?


Author:
Mary & Henry Brown
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Date Posted: 25/07/05 15:59:24

We're doing the east coast/rivers by stages this summer in our TS 240 - our first real expedition. We're quite keen to try "taking the mud" and the east coast seems the ideal place. Any advice from other TS 240's who've done it? Presumably the bulb sinks into the mud and the boat remains more or less upright? Are there any real risks? And if the mud is more of a solid beach, how comfortable is it when resting on the keel bulb at an angle?

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Subject: TS240 genoa halyard


Author:
Giles
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Date Posted: 29/07/05 18:02:35

The genoa halyards (2) on my TS240 are of wire spliced to rope construction and they are in need of changing (frayed ropes and snagging wire). I have decided not to replace with the same, but 100% rope instead.

Now the question. Do I use 6mm or 8mm? I am tending towards the 6mm because of the small size of sheave, but will they be too uncomfortable to handle?

What do you guys use?

Giles

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Subject: Water Tank Leaking - Where do I get a new one?


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Neil Smith
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Date Posted: 18/07/05 12:34:52

Samara (T500 with 5012 layout) has a leaking water tank! I filled her tank for the first time on Saturday (recently bought her) and found that she managed to slowly empty her tank into the bilge. I guess they benefited from a wash - and it's comfoting to know the bilge pump works.

She has a rectangular water tank mounted athwart ships, under the dinette settee that backs on to the quarter berth. Approx dimensions for the base are 49cm X 70cm. She is shapped to fit to the hull curve, so has a shallow end at 19cm high by the hull (where the filler pipe attaches) and 33cm at the keel end (where there is a seperate exit point in each corner serving the galley and heads taps.

The tank is a Light blue flexible water tank and the Label says "Fresh water tank manufactred by : Air cushion equipment (1976) Ltd, Southampton. She fas one filling point and two exits.

I have extracted her and discovered a leak on the seam, which I have been advised would not be worth repairing. I cannot find a replacement tank from any of the main chandlery's and internet investigations are proving fruitless. I'd go for a smaller tank, but I can't find one 50cm wide....

What are my options? Could I try and fit a plastimo bladder for a 70x70x25 inside and fit a splitter to serve the 2 destinations?

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Subject: mast pumping


Author:
Brad Croshaw
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Date Posted: 28/07/05 0:38:23

I seem to be getting a large amount of what I believe is termed 'mast pumping'.
Muchado is a T500 circa 73 so the mast is quite short with just cap shrouds and single lowers, they appear to be more or less in line with the mast. I note the C&C 27 has fore and aft lowers which I presume would reduce the amount of pumping. How much is acceptable? sometimes in the gusts when sitting below I'm very aware of the low frequency shudder transmitted through the trunk of the boat. If I'm on deck i can see the mast shudder with increased vigor through what appears to be a resonant frequency and then abate.

The shrouds are tight enough such that the leeward ones don't hang slack when beating in 20-25 knot winds although I haven't used a gauge on them. (another item on the birthday list)

Is this the same for all T500/501's?

Brad

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Subject: Sailmaker Info


Author:
Alan Gilmour
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Date Posted: 16/05/05 11:07:54

My T500 Eun Mara needs a new mainsail and, after getting several quotes, Crusader Sails of Poole are the most competitive. Has anyone ever bought any sails from them, or does anyone know their reputation.

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Subject: Trapper 500 age


Author:
bmagee
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Date Posted: 22/07/05 18:37:48

I have a trapper 500 serial number 350. Can anyone supply a likely year of manufacture

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Subject: T500 propeller help needed


Author:
Peter Coley
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Date Posted: 18/07/05 15:20:34

Have just had a lovely new Yanmar 15hp fitted to our 1979 T500/501. However, she seems slightly sluggish especially at higher revs and I am hard-pressed to get 6kt out of her on a flat calm despite recently cleaned undersides. The feeling is that the engine is working too hard for the speed it actually gives to the boat and the boat seems less well powered than it did with the ageing YSB12 that has been replaced. Is this a propeller matter? I spoke to the engineer who fitted the engine and he said that the choice of propeller for a trapper is always difficult because limited clearance restricts its diameter. Is this correct? The thing is, I think the old propeller had a bigger diameter (opposite direction). Can anybody tell me what the ideal prop is for an engine of this size on this particular boat? All help appreciated
Pete C

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Subject: Tall Ships at Waterford


Author:
nick
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Date Posted: 18/07/05 1:23:51

Whilst visiting the MIR with some of the other crew from the Swan I spotted a red 500 inspecting the fleet.

Whoever you were, Hi. I was in no position to shout and didn't see the yacht again

Nick

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Subject: Trapper 950


Author:
Tyrone Galea
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Date Posted: 18/07/05 17:20:36

Hi All,

I am very very seriously considering upgrading from a Snapdragon 24 to a Trapper 950.

She has a 5 year old Volvo MD2020, newish rigging and very nice lines.

Any information about this boat would be so much appreciated, especially handling characteristics, things to look out for during the survey, etc.

Regards
Tyrone
MALTA

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Subject: Servicing Lewmar 40 Winches


Author:
Neil
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Date Posted: 5/07/05 9:46:30

The Genny winches on Samara are rather sluggish at turning, and I wondered what my options are. Replacing them seems an extreme move at the moment - I'd trather wait for some boat show bargains :-)

Does anybody have any old documents/pdf's or top tips on how I should proceed with servicing them? My current plan (having never seen the inside of a winch close up) is to :

1) Remove the circlip on the top
2) lift off the drum and gasp.
3) remove ball bearings (if accessible) clean in meths, dry, apply new winch grease and put back together.

Anybody got any other ideas - am sure some TLC will give them a new lease of life.

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Subject: Purchase suitability


Author:
Don Carter
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Date Posted: 5/06/05 21:17:39

Hi,I am currently considering changing from power to sail and a Trapper 300 at Deacons has caught my eye. I must say for an older yacht they are very modern looking. However the big question is would it be to much for a totally inexperienced sailer? Initially it would seem to meet all my criteria being stylish but with a certain attitude, could the attitude outway the sensible? The idea is for my wife and I to cruise locally based from the Hamble spending the odd evening on board. Opinions would be welcomed. Thanks Don

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Subject: TS240 rig tesion


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Giles
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Date Posted: 28/06/05 14:02:24

I finally got Nidri off the mooring this weekend and went for a spin round the Solent. I noticed that the lee shrouds went slack in only a light breeze, and that was with a working jib rather than the genoa. The forstay sag was quite large and hence she didn't sail upwind very well at all.

Can anyone offer any advice as to how to correctly tension the rig?

Also, is it only my boat that tends to "creak"? The internal moulding makes quite a noise at times. The plywood bulkheads seam to generate the noise where they can move in the moulded channels of the headlining moulding.

Regards

Giles

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Subject: Round The Island


Author:
Rob Clark
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Date Posted: 19/06/05 20:09:47

Having tried it and failed, I feel I must offer a huge congratulations to all the Trappers who competed in the Round the Island Race yesterday!!

We (Bright Flyer) retired after realising that we wouldn't complete the course within the deadline and stopped overnight in Bembridge. I'd be interested to know how everyone else got on though. It was my first time and a fantastic experience but I have a question for the experienced 'Round the Islanders'; What would have been our favoured route from the Needles - a long beat south to lay bembridge in one big tack or lots of small tacks along the coastline? Any advice for next year!?

Rob

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Subject: Galley tap - TS 240


Author:
Mary Brown
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Date Posted: 14/06/05 21:37:38

We had trouble finding a flexible pipe that would fit onto the tap - necessary, to reach the sink. We eventually forced some to fit. The water got so smelly we didn't even want to use it for washing up, so now we've bought a little pump, totally emptied the water tank, and plan to treat it with Milton/white vinegar. But there seems to be a bit of growth in the plastic tube, and the last dregs in the tank didn't seem smelly. Maybe the pipe rather than the tank is the source of the problem. Has anyone got any useful tips? Thanks.

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Subject: Stanchion Trouble


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Peter Coley
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Date Posted: 24/05/05 23:53:51

Anybody know how to replace/replicate/find in salvage or by whatever means remedy the fact that I have a stanchion with a badly rotting base, close to giving up the ghost? Are they a standard fitting? My boat is a T500/501 1979 and the stanchions have an aluminium appearance, the base is attached to the deck with three screws
Any help very much appreciated.
Peter Coley

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Subject: ROUND ISLAND RACE


Author:
Dave Bassett
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Date Posted: 24/05/05 18:59:51

Any other Trappers taking part in the Isle of Wight Round Island Race for 2005 My Trapper 300 - Piel Belle is already booked for the 18th June. Hope to make Folly after. call sign MAEV9


Dave Bassett.

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Subject: Boom End Fitting T500


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Neil Smith
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Date Posted: 23/05/05 23:03:03

Got the actual Surveyors report now. One of things he points out is, "...the boom end fitting ion which the mainsheet is attached is well worn and now unreliable".

What ios it, and how hard is it to ger a replacement - I'm not understanding his terminology, but perhaps you guys can decypher it for me :-)

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Subject: All the Best


Author:
Richard Swire
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Date Posted: 14/06/05 14:48:02

All the best to those of you in the Round the Island. Pamino will not be taking part in the mayhem, we however may well be anchored off Bembridge with a nice barbeque on the go chilling with an ice cold beer and a good woman massaging the shoulders, we shall be thinking of you every now and again, but probably not for long. May I wish you all a safe trip and remember, the boat in front of you should be behind you. Something about Trapper honour.

All the best.

Richard

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Subject: Trapper 28


Author:
onno buisma
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Date Posted: 11/06/05 17:40:29

Hello
I am in the process of buying a Trapper 28 in Holland near Nijkerk. The boat was build in 1980 and was sold by a broker to the present owner in 1998. There is no number or sign on the sail.
Is there anyone who can help me with information of this boat. It is probably the only Trapper 28 exported to the Netherlands.
I am also interested in the sailsign for the Trapper 28
Any reply or peace of information will be appreciated
Kind regards
Onno Buisma

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Subject: Storm jib for Trapper 500


Author:
Nicholas Hill
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Date Posted: 5/06/05 15:56:08

Discovered storm jib deep in locker. Yours if you contact me ASAP or it gets thrown.

Nicholas Hill

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Subject: Trapper 300 Inboard Engine


Author:
Helga Reeves
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Date Posted: 7/06/05 16:07:13

We are looking to purchase a Trapper 300 yacht at the moment. Its 1978 in good condition except the engine is gone and we need to replace it. Any advice. It was a YSE8. Should we replace with a Yanmar or can we go with a different brand of engine. We are living in West Cork Ireland and finding it very difficult to come across second hand engines. Any suggestions greatfully received.

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Subject: 240/250 Window Change


Author:
Len
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Date Posted: 3/06/05 11:02:39

Has anybody changed the window perspex on a 240 or 250? I assume that the plastic is bolted in place so how is access gained to the interior? Does the headlining have to come down or is there some way of removing the interior window surround?

Many thanks,

Len
T250 Activity Trap

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Subject: Info required


Author:
colum Mcevoy
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Date Posted: 3/06/05 0:26:14

I am planing to put a yanmar 1 GM 10 into my trapprer 28 in place of the dolphin petrol engine. Will I have to cut out and remove the stern tube or can I used this with the original shaft and just replace the propeller

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Subject: Evinrude Outboards - Solent Service


Author:
Neil Smith
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Date Posted: 28/05/05 15:28:04

Ok, granted this is not a direct trapper question, but my father-in-law has an old 4hp 2 stroke Evinrude outboard from the 80's and is happy for me to make use of it. It hasn't been used for a few years, and he's been it's only owner.

Being based in the Solent, does anyone know of a good place to get it looked over/or a full service (Evinrude dealers?) round that way?

Could save me a few hundred quid needed to commision the boat :-)

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Subject: Folding prop for T500


Author:
Neil Smith
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Date Posted: 27/05/05 19:57:23

Hi - anybody fitted a folding prop to their T500? I am thinking about replacing my corroded one with a folding one to reduce drag and improve sailing performance.

Does anyone know how much these roughly cost, and if there are down sides to fitting such a prop ?

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Subject: Cooling Trapper 300


Author:
ian
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Date Posted: 22/05/05 22:27:55

I have a Trapper 300 with a YSB8 Last 3 times I have been out the engine has started fine and water has been coming out of the exhaust (I always check) I have been sailing then restarted the engine and very little or no water has come out of the exhaust. 1st time I pulled off the feed to the pump to check there was no blockage at the hull inlet, water poured in I assumed it wasn't that. drive belt is tight. I restarted the engine and the water started flowing again. Next time I sailed all the way into the marina using the engine only for the last 100yards at tickover. I stopped the engine 20 mins later restarted and water flowed fine. Today started fine again in Marina. after 3 hours sailing, same thing, restarted and no water. I sailed the boat onto a port tack thus putting the inlet deeper in the water, then water started flowing. Has anyone experienced similar problems could it be some sort of air lock? The impeller was changed 2 months ago. I examined it today and it is fine.
Any suggestions appreciated

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Subject: Trapper 500 Chain plate re-work


Author:
Neil Smith
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Date Posted: 23/05/05 9:31:39

I am advised by my surveyor that the chain plates need to be changed/adapted on the impending purchase, as they are a known design flaw. In this particular case the bulk head has been distorted and caused the deck to sperate from the hull. He said the work will require some 'digging out' of the deck 'grinding' and constructing installing new shaped plates to put the strains in the correct places.

If fixed properly, will this be a prob in the future? Also, the boat is solent based - where would people recommend the work being done, I'm thinking Deacons - but am keen to know if they've done a robust job in the past - apparently some T500 chain plate repairs have not been as well executed as others.

Any ideas how much any of this would cost?

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Subject: Against the Odds


Author:
Richard Swire
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Date Posted: 22/05/05 19:50:47

Despite the weather, two boats, a previous owner and a Grand Soleil owner who likes Trappers arrived in Yarmouth. To be honest I was amazed as the weather was bl**** awful. We snuck down overnight on Friday and ended up motoring from Cowes as the wind had died completley. Flat calm Solent with a full moon. So let's do another one in September, 17th/18th September in Yarmouth.

Met with Ron from T500 Nocturne, he got as far as Cowes and stayed the weekend.Timba Tara arrived as the sun came out, they claimed they brought it with them, I would have believed them had they not been so wet. The previous owner of Timba Tara made the journey by ferry, (sensible under the circumstances)and Kevin and Bevs friends who arrived in a large Grand Soleil are now honary Italian trapper owners

The people at Hayles boat yard were brilliant and look forward to seeing you all in September

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Subject: New Windows for T500


Author:
Neil Smith
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Date Posted: 23/05/05 9:37:37

Windows on T500 impending purchase are all stargazed and on the two main windows cracked - there by rendering her un-seaworthy.

Availability?
Are these hard to come by - I'm imagining the fact they no longer make the boat means these are made straight from materials. Who could carry out this work in the solent - Deacons? Any idea on rough price for materials/work?

Comsmetics?
I think it would make sense to get them all replaced but and my wife asked the question if there is are choice of colours? Traditional appears to be a black/brown tint - we're thinking more of a royal/navy blue tint to provide a little more light down below. Don't knwo what materials are available - any thoughts?

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Subject: Dissappointed


Author:
Richard Swire
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Date Posted: 6/05/05 12:02:42

Despite the enthusiasm shown for a meet, only 3 people have acknowledged. Perhaps we should have another on in September, was it to early?

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Subject: Buying T500(501 Layout) - What probs should I look for?


Author:
Neil Smith
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Date Posted: 16/05/05 21:09:19

Hi, I am in the process of having a 1979 Trapper 500 surveyed with the 501 layout. I am aware that the stanchion bases hasve historically been an issue, and there is soimething known as "Trapper Smile" relating to the keel - although I don't know how serious it is or difficult to fix.

Could anyone tell me the things I need to be looking out for, and whether they're expensive to do.

She has roller reefing on the boom still - is it a difficult thing to upgrade, etc..

It's all so overwhelming :~(

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Subject: Trapper TS42 LADY EMMA


Author:
Hugh Hayward
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Date Posted: 16/05/05 14:52:35

In 1986 I bought this fine yacht from Deacon's Boatyard as an ex-demo. We know that she was actually built by Barberis (Italian yard), but built in Malta. She is a fine cruiser/racer. She has been extensively chartered, and I have sailed her to the Canaries myself.
Apparently there are a number of these yachts in the Med, but does anybody know whether there are any others in our home waters?

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Subject: Trapper TS42 LADY EMMA


Author:
Hugh Hayward
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Date Posted: 16/05/05 14:51:10

In 1986 I bought this fine yacht from Deacon's Boatyard as an ex-demo. We know that she was actually built by Barberis (Italian yard), but built in Malta. She is a fine cruiser/racer. She has been extensively chartered, and I have sailed her to the Canaries myself.
Apparently there are a number of these yachts in the Med, but does anybody know whether there are any others in our home waters?

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Subject: Trapper TS42 LADY EMMA


Author:
Hugh Hayward
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Date Posted: 16/05/05 14:49:06

In 1986 I bought this fine yacht from Deacon's Boatyard as an ex-demo. We know that she was actually built by Barberis (Italian yard), but built in Malta. She is a fine cruiser/racer. She has been extensively chartered, and I have sailed her to the Canaries myself.
Apparently there are a number of these yachts in the Med, but does anybody know whether there are any others in our home waters?

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Subject: We are still Meeting


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Richard Swire
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Date Posted: 9/05/05 22:11:33

The meet is still on, I just thought we would have loads of us. Any way a few is better than none. Will have another one in September, maybe the last week, will check tides and availability. See you in Yarmouth on the 21st May

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Subject: T500 Toe rail tar.


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Graham Harrison
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Date Posted: 7/05/05 23:38:01

"Auriole" T500 is now 27 years old & seems to be having drooling problems! I refer to the black tarry substance extruding from the hull/deck/toe-rail join. Presumably it from degradation of the mastic used in the join. At the moment I clean it up with paraffin where possible but it's not ideal! Anyone else experiencing the same problems?

Graham

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Subject: TS240 Mast


Author:
Alex
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Date Posted: 16/04/05 17:51:14

MY elation and anticipatory joy of rigging and launching my newly aquired old, but beautifully formed TS 240 has been miserably thwarted by what turns out to be a broken mast heel: thus I turn to you for help.

It appears - until now unnoticed - that the heel (the cast metal foot attached to the base of the mast) has been split internally (the 2 flanges that drop down over the deck upstand are still fine) - probably the result of the mast being dropped out of 'straight 'n true' during raising/lowering. Thus the two sides of the heel are no longer held together by the metal's original cast construction 'inside'.

Does anybody know from where - at a reasonable price - I can either

purchase a whole new cast heel which can replace the broken one, or

buy a second hand one (with or without mast attached), or

how this one can be mended, or (lastly)

from where I can have a new one made up.

I have thought about merely bolting the two sides together but really would like the arrangement with the locating nut to work the way it is suppoed to - and, of course I have a concern that for the masts integrity/safety.

Has anybody else had to contend with this eventuality - it does seem a very 'exposed' part of the overall design?

As you can imagine I am desparately disapppointed in discovering this with my new acquisition. Any suggestions welcomed.

Thanks in anticipation

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Subject: C& C 35 (Trapper 700)


Author:
Philip Watts
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Date Posted: 5/05/05 15:37:06

I would be grateful for any information on what I believe is known as the C&C Smile - basically a gap that develops on the leading edge of the keel - I am looking at buying a C&C 35 which the brokers says has had the work done on the keel but the mark on the keel joint is very visible.
The USA C&C Club website forum mentions this ‘smile' and they way to repair it ( basically with epoxy filler) is that simple and is there more to be concerned about. Thanks in advance for any info.

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Subject: strange looking board


Author:
Nick
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Date Posted: 3/05/05 14:28:06

My apologies for the rather odd look to the board.

It is a temporary measure so that we can retrieve all postings into a file and see if it is possible to keep them for future use.

normal service will be resumed as soon as possible.

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Subject: Trapper 'Grin'


Author:
Arkadina Russ
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Date Posted: 1/05/05 18:28:26

Hi people, Arkadina (T500) Is sufferering from ' trapper grin' have groung out, filled with sikaflex, painted over. should i start playing with the keel bolts?, to prevent further drop? (its a bit of a worry) Russ.

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Subject: TS240 Keel repairs - again.


Author:
Jonathan Dodd
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Date Posted: 26/04/05 20:48:52

Over last winter I replaced the top section of the keel in my TS240 for the second time and was tempted to put Azurian up for sale. I normally reckon to tackle DIY around the home over the winter which I tell myself allows a clear conscience to go sailing in Summer.

This time I was coming to the conclusion I had had enough of mixing moving parts with salt water and should look for something with none of these and maybe not so lively. Last weekend was the first opportunity for a sail since lift in. Somebody once remarked to me " you don't so much untie this boat as unleash it". Once the mooring is dropped we are off!! Six and a half knots down Stangate Creek to windward under working jib and one reef and with my hefty Mariner 6 in the well - now I remember why I went to so much trouble in the first place.

Should it be of help to any other owners thinking of overhauling their lifting keel mechanism and curious to know what awaits them I have posted some notes and photos at http://www.azurian.hemscott.net

I would welcome some assistance from other forum readers with a remaining problem.

The keel top section comes to rest on two metal upstands or angle irons at the bottom. Azurian is a 1980 boat but I think has been out of the water most winters. Nevertheless while there is a few years of life left in these upstands corrosion has started and I have spoken to another owner here on the Medway who has noticed a similar thing. Somewhere along the line something will have to be done. Does any body know whether these metal members are in fact all one casting or if there are original drawings in existence which shed any light ?

Maybe somebody has already tackled this - if so I would very much like to know how. I have wondered if it would be possible to insert a stainless section with a lip alongside the upstand and maybe another section outside the hull through bolted. I know there are already some counter sunk bolts in the gelcoat alongside the keel which I am told have nuts on top of the upstands. All ideas much appreciated.

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Subject: Yarmouth Meet Is on 21st May ------I need You and your boat


Author:
Richard Swire
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Date Posted: 28/04/05 14:50:56

There is no space in the harbour on the 21st, but we can use Harold Hayles boat yard pontoon which is opposite the Red pontoon in Yarmouth Harbour. Yarmouth is hosting a corporate race weekend. Hayles is a private pontoon, with water and electric and is walk ashore.
£17.00 per night all in.

If you are in, can you e-mail me some contact details and boat names so we can advise the boat yard. By the weekend if possible.

Please send details to
rs@swireassociates.co.uk and Richard.Swire@btinternet.com

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Subject: Meeting in Yarmouth


Author:
Richard Swire
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Date Posted: 26/04/05 19:42:32

I am waiting to here from Yarmouth Harbour Master but 21st May looks to be a good weekend. HW Portsmouth is 1011 Sat
and HW sun is 1056. I was guessing on 7 Trappers of any breed. Will update in next couple of days

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Subject: PY number T500


Author:
Rick jones
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Date Posted: 24/04/05 11:03:52

Have decided to have a go in the next series of club races and need to tell them my PY number. have tried the RYA but no joy. Any clues? we're finkeel, fixed 3 blade prop, cruising chute, no spinnaker. thanks, rick.

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Subject: Denial of Service


Author:
Nick
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Date Posted: 25/04/05 7:46:23

I don't know if Voy was under attack, Tony says a chunk of the BT network seemed to have gone down, but either way we lost our bulletin board for a while.

If it had gone on much longer we would have switched to the new one which is being prepared but fortunately we were not rushed into anything.

You might like to take the opportunity to bookmark the new URL for the website though for when it is up and running, I wouldn't want a further glich to lose everybody.

We shall be moving to www.trapperyachts.org.uk at some point in the future. At the moment you will find a page with links to this board and the original trapper website. I think the new board design does offer us advantages, I've taken on Tony's suggestion to have more than one board which has given us a chance to put the for sale and wanted items in boards of their own to make it easier to find the ads.

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Subject: Trapper 300 keel


Author:
Geordie Thorpe
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Date Posted: 21/04/05 22:37:24

Hi all, I'm looking for info on the Trapper 300 lead keel, How much heavier is it than the standerd keel?, Can you still get the lead one?.
Many thanks, Geordie

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Subject: Solent Meet For any Trapper


Author:
Richard Swire
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Date Posted: 21/03/05 11:17:41

We have talked about it before so lets do it this time, a meet in the solent for any Trapper who wishes to be nosey and have a look at what someone else has done to their boat. I have a million questions that need answering and what better place than with many boats together. If you are game on, then send me an email at
rs@swireassociates.co.uk

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Subject: Broken Gooseneck


Author:
Rob Clark
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Date Posted: 21/04/05 14:00:34

Can anyone advise how to go about replacing my broken gooseneck. It's part of a boom 'roller-reefing' system and conversations I've already had would suggest that fabricating a new one would be very expensive. It's also been suggested that I replace the roller-reefing boom with a convensional 'slab reefing' system but I rather like the system as it is and would be reluctant to change it.

Any ideas or offers of replacement parts are welcomed...

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Subject: Nidri finally launched


Author:
Giles
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Date Posted: 10/04/05 19:17:00

I'm not really sure if I'm posting in the right place now, but today saw the grand launching of Nidri, my TS240.

I launched off Bosham quay and everything went like clockwork until I started the engine to leave. The Mariner 6hp which had previously run fine, decided not to pass any cooling water. Rather than potentially damage the engine, my old trusty Mariner 2hp was pressed into service and pushed the boat nicely round to it's mooring.

Anyway, I just wanted to share with everyone the fabulous feeling of finally being back on the water. I hope everyone elses launches go as smoothly.

Regards

Giles

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Subject: The new example forum - www.command-it.co.uk


Author:
Tony Buckley
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Date Posted: 13/04/05 22:14:32

Hi,

I've noticed on the example forum people are posting real messages - actually about sailing, not server side scripting or packet rate across dial up connections questions.

I am not willing for this forum to be diluted and I think all those who are going to comment have commented. A mix of grumpy old men and a few champions to the cause. No offence nor crassness implied to either party.

To that end, I will be killing the site this weekend! I don't want it up too long or some pesky search robot will come along and get through my defences and register it as 'the' owners association and no one wants that!

I have had a couple of private emails with Nick and am willing to help him set up whatever he chooses. He does have something in mind but not my place to disclose.

If you do want to vote - wouldn't even mind a 'no' if that's how you feel, though a comment as to why would be nice, I have opened up the entire site - no need to register for any area.

All the best to all, and thanks for getting involved to those that did or will before Sunday. To date and since 4/4, its had sixteen hundred page views, so there must be a few lurkers out there!

Tony

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Subject: Maybe its just me


Author:
kim
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Date Posted: 12/04/05 21:50:44

I know that up here in carrot crunching part of the East coast, we maybe slightly slower than the rest of the planet, or most likely the fumes from the epoxing the hull and the antifouling but ive searched through all the previous threads on this new forum site, I have looked at the trapper site and I seamed to have missed where I look at the new Forum. Please let the rest of us have a look, as at the moment I am dead against going elsewhere, COS I DONT KNOW WHERE TO GO ..Heeeeelllllllppppp

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