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Subject: T500 Lighting circuit - How many Amps?


Author:
Neil
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Date Posted: 20/02/06 13:14:42

I have circuit breakers and don't know what/where the fuses are on the boat, so difficult to tell the loading on the light circuit...

I'm looking at buying a multimeter to use for some fault diagnostics -- my main saloon light is driving me nuts, and the brand new replacement isn't working, but I can't see what would could be broken! It's one of those simple silver rotating lights.

The question is... Can I use a multimeter to read the voltage across the connections if it's maximum amp rating is 10A?

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Subject: Trapper 300 Upholstery


Author:
Fiona & Robin
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Date Posted: 12/02/06 23:29:47

We need to replace the upholstery on our boat. We were thinking of separating the cushions from the plywood bases and holding them in place with velcro. This would allow the covers to be removed for cleaning.

Are there any good reasons not to do this and to stick with the stapled on upholstery?

All opinions most welcome.

Thanks,

Fiona & Robin

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Subject: Bolting Saloon windows on T500


Author:
Neil
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Date Posted: 22/02/06 13:58:44

Am considering bolting my windows to the deck so I can ensure a good seal. Anybody done this? Used "Interscrews"?

Mastic has failed (again) and the self tapping screws have become so loose in places I'm not sure a larger screw would be able to gain purchase.

Current plan is to buy some 5mm neoprene sheeting (made specially for the job) to act as a gasket and seal the window in situ.

Wondered if the inner-mouling might cause problems with bolting thru...

Will cost about 80 for both sides, but if it keeps the rain (and sea) out I'll be a very happy man...

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Subject: T500 Windlass


Author:
Alan Gilmour
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Date Posted: 20/02/06 11:12:25

Having bitten the bullet and decided to fit an electric windlass to my T500 "Eun Mara", I am now presented with the problem of where to fit it. Living on a mooring I keep my Bruce anchor stored in the anchor locker and I don't want to intrude on the locker space. It would appear the best way would be to fit a Quick Rider 712 180deg vertical unit without hawsepipe, aft of the anchor locker and let the chain spill into the locker, with perhaps a little assistance from my foot. I think any unit with a hawsepipe mounted aft of the locker would mean fitting a pipe in the fcsle leading into the chain locker which is not really deep enough to allow jam free (25M + rope)chain reception.
I would be grateful for any info from anyone who has fitted one.

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Subject: How do you "CHOKE" a bildge pump


Author:
Neil
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Date Posted: 16/02/06 18:07:17

I've been looking though the trapper manual whilst thinking about some servicing jobs I have planned and it says, "it is nearly impossible to Choke a Henderson bilge pump".

I have to service my pump as it looks like it will soon be(if not already) perished. It stopped working and always seemed to take 30 punps to get any water from the bilge into the drink.

Is mine choked? How would I know?

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Subject: Winch Referb


Author:
Neil
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Date Posted: 14/02/06 12:27:29

Can you send the external parts of the winch off somewhere to have a fresh coat of chrome on them?

My Genoa winches are looking fairly tired, and whilst I'll be servicing them soon and trying not to lose those dreaded springs, I wondered if there were any pros/cons to getting them re-coated.

I wonder it it would help improve the grip.

They are the usual Lewmar ST30's (or is it 32), not S/T anyway.

Cheers

NAJS

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Subject: Service of sea cocks & engine replacement


Author:
Roger Geddes
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Date Posted: 13/02/06 20:47:26

Hi can anyone help? I have a Trapper 500/501 interior in which we are installing a new Beta 16. I would like to check & service all the sea cocks while there is no engine in place but can't see how to remove the originals as they seem to be glassed in externally & I don't want to damage anything by being brutal. The sea cock to the wc basin seems to be the only one which has an external skin fitting but this valve is almost inaccessible - I guess that the furniture was built in after the sea cock was installed - there surely had to be a better location for this.
Has anyone removed or serviced any of these valaves - if so your advice would be very much appreciated.
If anyone is interested in the engine swop I will let you know how it goes.
Many thanks
Roger Geddes (T500 Rebecca)

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Subject: Trapper 300 Vs Sadler 25


Author:
Fiona & Robin
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Date Posted: 22/08/05 23:25:03

Hi Trapper Forum

We are in the process of buying our first boat and we are currently looking at a Sadler 25 and a Trapper 300.

We are planning to start with some gentle cruising in the South West, hopefully graduating to the odd trip to the Channel Islands and doing some racing.

Whereas the Sadler 25 seems to have a very good reputation as a capable seaboat, much less seems to be said about the Trapper 300. Can anyone give us an idea of how these two compare? For example exactly how worried do we need to be about being caught out by the weather on a channel crossing?

Your wise words would be very welcome!

Thanks

Fiona and Robin

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Subject: Trapper 28 Replacement Engine


Author:
Colum Mcevoy
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Date Posted: 22/12/05 21:11:59

I am looking for information on what type of engine I can replace my old Dolphin 13.5 hp. I have a choice between a nanni 10hp (closed system) and a petters 12hp raw water cooled. I like the petters but i think it may be two big for my engine bay. The dimensions are Height 22inchs (565cm) lenght 32 inchs (812 cm) and width 20 inchs 510 (cm). the Nanni is smaller but heavier because of the heat exchanger. Has anyone fitted either of these engines and if so what problems did they encounter.

Happy Xmas everyone

Colum

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Subject: Standard T500 Prop shaft Diameter?


Author:
Neil
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Date Posted: 8/02/06 12:57:54

Samara is a 1979 T500/501 with the original yanmar YSE8 engine.

I plan to replace the sacrificial anode, while I'm on scrubbing piles, but having never measured this since her first launch with us last July, I'm unsure what size I'd need to get.

Anybody got the same configuration - could save a wasted tide on the piles!

Cheers

NAJS

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Subject: Marine Ply Supplier - For re-inforcing Outboard Bracket


Author:
Neil
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Date Posted: 4/02/06 17:43:49

Hi All!

I've aquired a solid GRP tender for Samara, but the marine ply section at the back, that is there to provide re-inforcement for the ouitboard, is , well, rotten thru!

Can anyone recomend a supplier of Marine Ply in the Epsom (junc 9 M25), or Gosport area? I was going to cut a bit of B&Q ply to size and varnish heavily, but something thells me that's not going to do the trick...

Neil

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Subject: Black Prince - Did Us Proud!


Author:
Neil
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Date Posted: 8/02/06 13:01:24

Nick - Congratulations on the review with your T500 in Sailing Today.

It's the first time I've read a boat review whilst muttering, "... don't you dare say anything bad about our Trappers..." and they didn't.

I think the strengths far outway the weaknesses, I had no supprises, but it just confirmed what I aready knew.

Cracking Boat!

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Subject: TS 240 Galley slide rails


Author:
Paul Barber
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Date Posted: 3/02/06 12:14:31

Hi,
Nautibuoy's galley has plastic T slot tracks, 12mm internal, screwed at 6inch intervals. The lower follows a slight depression in the moulded box section and is always pulling out the screws and jamming the galley in the track. I could pack out and glue this track and put a flex mounting on the inner part of the galley moulding but reckon its best to replace with somthing more substantial.
I'm thinking of metal track with wheels but has anyone done this ? Where did you get the track/fittings as everything around here is insubstantial plastic.

Cheers

Paul

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Subject: Eberspacher - How Many Outlets


Author:
Neil
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Date Posted: 27/01/06 20:17:52

Hi,

Looking to fit a 2nd hand D1LC eberspacher to Samara. It's a 1800kW device, I was thinking of fitting 2 vents to it.

Is that possible?

Hoping that you can just split the hot air with a T piece and send one part of the ducting up to the forepeak (toasty for the god-children ) and the other to exit beneath the cooker in the galley for heating the saloon.

I see heaters advertised for 1, 2 or 3 exits. Worried that I'll only be able to fit one port...

Help would be appreciated!

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Subject: 501


Author:
Peter
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Date Posted: 27/01/06 11:13:47

I'm looking at a 501 as a possible first boat (lots of experience with dingys etc). What are the pros and cons? I'll be mostly short handed or solo but want to take the whole family (4) from time to time. The boat will be based in scottish waters and west coast and on up to Shetland looks appealing.

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Subject: t28 trailer


Author:
phil welch
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Date Posted: 31/01/06 0:20:42

Hi does any one have a trailer for a t28 fin keel, iam going to build one and could do with some dimensions to get a rough idea at what iam looking at also could do with some pics of inside of boat as mine has not got one so i will be refitting out from scratch cheers phil

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Subject: DIY Eberspacher Install?


Author:
Neil
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Date Posted: 29/01/06 13:57:42

Has anyone done their own install for an eberspacher diesel heating system?

If the sales people are to be believed you need to fit the ducting, fuel supply and power and you're good to go.

But that "feels" like more that a days work to me...

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Subject: Wood flooring


Author:
Colin Griffiths
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Date Posted: 27/01/06 16:40:27

Hi Folks,
Does anyone have experience in fitting a wood floor to the interior of a 501?
Thanks
Colin
(Nimbus Too)

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Subject: Folding prop


Author:
Mark (FOOTLOOSE)
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Date Posted: 16/01/06 21:50:04

Hi, I am looking for a 2 bladed folding prop for my trapper 300 (7/8 dia shaft), just wondering if anybody's got one they would like to sell or swap for a 2 bladed fixed ?

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Subject: Yanmar YSE8 Manual?


Author:
Neil
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Date Posted: 16/01/06 10:32:39

Was down on the bot again this weekend, but bti of a coward to take her out - bit on the cold side :-)

Still, was checking over maintenance jobs and realised that I don't have a manual for the YSE8, and wondered where I could get one?

I've looked on amazon before, but just ended up buying a manual for every Yanmar single cylinder engine but mine :-(


Can any of you skippers help?

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Subject: Brand new jib for sale


Author:
Paul de la Feuillade
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Date Posted: 24/01/06 13:59:47

Jib for sale, new and unused, kept rolled. Luff length approx 450cm. Max width from luff to clew 160cm. Excellent quality, heavy dacron. Cost new 400. Boat now sold. Either collect from Christchurch, Dorset or I can post at cost. Contact pauldlf@thewalkeragency.co.uk

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Subject: Trapper TS240 Mainsail for sale


Author:
Paul de la Feuillade
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Date Posted: 12/01/06 14:26:00

I have a Trapper TS240 mainsail for sale in good used condition. 50 plus postage or collect from Christchurch, Dorset.

Paul 07766 558128

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Subject: Water Filler Cap


Author:
Neil
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Date Posted: 23/01/06 15:09:16

Water cap has jammed and desintigrated on me after a forced removal. It was in a state when I first got Samara.

Think I need to fit new water cap assembly (about 14 quid) when I sort out my water problem (see other post).

Seen water and diesel assemblies which look like they coukld fit the same 3 screws into deck, but the cap is metal.

Anyone have probs with these siezing up?

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Subject: Plastic tasting Water


Author:
Neil
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Date Posted: 23/01/06 15:04:08

Right,

back on the boat after a few months away, recently (Aug/Sept) fitted a plastimo flexible water tank. Getting frustrated that even after filling a filter in-line by the tank enroute to the foot pump (also services summer last year), my cups of T taste discusting.

What is the cure?

I've tried...

- sterilising tabs but I'm left with a chlorine taste
- running supply hose for ages to imrpove quality of source water

I'm just getting to the point where I think it shoudl all be stripped out - all piping and tank - and then get someone to fit it all in. the only prob with that is (a) the cost and (b) the fact it's goign to stop me getting out.

Help....

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Subject: yse 12


Author:
dale
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Date Posted: 10/01/06 19:24:31

i have found a yse12 in good condition for my trapper 500.I have a yse8 at the moment butits just not got the oomph, can anyone tell the difference between the yse12 & the yse 12g & how can you tell? Also i dont apperar to have any rubber engine mountings on my engine its just bolted to the boat, is this correct? My shaft is 3/4 inche at the moment will this be ok for the yse12 & what prop will i need? Also how can i tell whether it is 2:1 or 3:1 ratio and what difference will it make? All help appreciated.

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Subject: new enginefor trapper 500


Author:
dale
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Date Posted: 10/12/05 19:17:14

Im still getting clued up on different engines for my trapper 500, ive seen a yanmar ysm12 which would be a direct replacement for my yse8 with a little bit more power,I am still not sure how different these engines are to the 1gm or 2gm engines.Also there are plenty of volvo engines about,bukh dv20 ive been told are to big, can anyone feed me any info on the pros & cons of either or any more suggestioins please????????

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Subject: New engin for T300


Author:
Chris Fagg
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Date Posted: 18/12/05 16:09:48

I have just bought a T300 with a Petter mini 6. It has already started playing up & before I purchased Poldark I intended to fit a new engine. I am quite taken with the beta 10 twin engine. Is there any one out there who has a T 300 with the beta 10 or 13.5?

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Subject: Bilge Keel


Author:
Vincent Scanlon
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Date Posted: 7/12/05 11:11:33

I am searching for my first beginner sail boat and I an seriously considering the Trapper 500/1 model. Family cruising in coastal areas will be my initial main use. I hope to mature up to some cross channel type trips.....scratch that...adventures!

The benefits of a bilge keel setup have been recommended to me but I am wondering, if the boat is set on these keels very regularly or for a few months at a time, is there serious pressure/stress on the keel bolt area, requiring heavy maintenance.

The only downside of bilge keel setups which I have been advised about is the sailing isn't as good. Could anybody expand on that for me? With no interest in racing, how much of an issue is this for me?

The right decision will avoid me having to re-enter the market for another purchase earlier than is necessary.

Thank you in advance.

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Subject: HAPPY XMAS


Author:
Richard Swire
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Date Posted: 20/12/05 13:03:48

Happy Xmas and a prosperous New Year to all Trapper owners no matter which one you sail. May your sailing god or other, smile gently on you in the years to come.
Pamino and her crew.

A lovely T500 still afloat at the Posh end of the Solent

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Subject: rudder stock bushes and prop


Author:
E Inglis
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Date Posted: 3/11/05 17:42:28

I have trapper 501 b/k in Maryport Cumbria can anybody tell me where to get new bushes for rudder stock also I have had a brand new beta marine 20 hp fitted the prop on it is only two blade need to go to 3 blade can anybody tell what pitch will be best and best place to get it

E Inglis p.s. any other trapper in solway

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Subject: T500 Rigging Failure - when did you last change yours?


Author:
brian henry
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Date Posted: 4/12/05 15:54:21

I am sure that you all are far more careful and consequent sailors than I but my 1980 Trapper 500 had never had her standing rigging down for checking or replacement - thats 25 years so I suppose I had what was coming to me. But keeping a boat in a warm climate with limited humidity with no evidence of rusting or visible deterioration whatsoever had given me a false sense of security.

Oh, I had meticulously examined what was observable and accessible; I had even been to the top of the mast a couple of times, the last only in 2004, to visually check what I could, but a rigging failure this year shows why that was insufficient.

The failure was one which I would not have thought as being one of the weakest links in the mast support structure it was the masthead forestay toggle, the connection between the forestay terminal and the masthead tang. This is a very substantial-looking casting with a single 12mm section and 16mm clevis pin on the top, leading to double 3mm sections enclosing the forestay terminal held by a 12mm clevis pin. A pity I cannot embed a photograph in this forum but you can see what I mean here:

http://bosunsupplies.com/products2.cfm?product=S0168

The crystalline nature of the breaks running through the centreline of the two cheeks (position line D in the diagram) show by their rust colour that the underneath section had earlier fractured while the upper section breaks were clean, new fractures. It is possible that the hairline cracks of the earlier failure would not have been visible in their position under the top one when I visually inspected last year, so there is no knowing just how long I had been sailing with a time bomb ticking away.

We were very lucky that the furling headsail and halyard held the mast up when the failure occurred (and subsequently furled normally) in the strong wind and that shelter with a crane available lay only 5nm distant; it was a salutary lesson that I feel should be passed on to all those of you who have yachts of a similar type and age.

Brian.

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Subject: Bow Roller


Author:
Gary
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Date Posted: 20/11/05 20:29:15

Hi
Would anyone know of a used bow roller for a T300 for sale.
Regards
Gary

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Subject: engine for trapper 500


Author:
dale
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Date Posted: 16/11/05 15:13:36

looking for a new engine for trapper 500 can anyone give me any suggestions. ive seen a bukh dv 20 but im told that its to big & heavy. at the moment ive still got the original yse8

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Subject: TS 240 Replacement Sheaves


Author:
Jonathan Dodd
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Date Posted: 22/11/05 11:09:47

My TS240 and I assume all others are the same was fitted with RWO 824 deck organisers. The original sheaves corroded so they would no longer turn and some burst. RWO tell me they have not manufactured this model for 15 years and cannot supply parts. Some years back I managed to buy one a chandler had left in stock and cannibalise it but now need more sheaves as the remainder have gone the same way. I guess other people must have had the same problem and wonder how you solved it. On my boat they are bolted on to a moulded plinth so re using the case seems preferable.

The sheaves in the organiser at the foot of the mast are also in variable condition and I would be glad to know if anybody has a source of replacements for these.

While on the subject of replacements - I lost the handle for my keel pump rather embarrassingly a couple of years back. I have not so far been able to find a tube which fits quite as well as the original. The result of the slightly loose fit is that you cannot raise the keel without lifting the outboard out of the well first. Any suggestions for better fit tube gratefully received.

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Subject: TS 240 Hydraulics / Antifouling


Author:
Paul
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Date Posted: 8/11/05 12:24:09

Hi all!
Having lifted out 'Nautibuoy' and settled her on the road trailer for the winter I am pondering wwhat to do about the hydraulics for keel lift. Should pressure be maintained to keep seals lubricated or is it best to release pressure and leave keel fully supported off trailer direct and with hull supported off the two cross members and 4 pads?

Also have been cleaning hull. Mooring is half tide in Chichester harbour and dries out to mud over shingle. Using 2 coats Blakes Tiger Xtra ( eroding)this season I had a 2.5 m2 area where she settles on the mud which had an excellent crop of barnacles and 'tails'. These scaped off fairly easily but black residue is not succumbing to pressure wash or paint scrubbing pad ( the same type as foam backed wash up pad).
The anti foulling is the preferred make for the top end of the harbour with fresh water feed though most boats are bilge keel. Has anyone any thoughts or experience of mud berth so I can improve on this for next season? Note: I prefer eroding type anti foullings in principle as there should be no need to strip back the lot every few years.
Cheers
Paul

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Subject: Who knows 'MADLEN of HOLYHEAD'


Author:
James Green
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Date Posted: 15/10/05 17:00:28

Does anyone know the owner of 'MAD LEN of HOLYHEAD'? I have noticed the boat turn up in Blagdon's Boatyard, Plymouth and thought it would be good to get in touch with another T300 owner in Plymouth.

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Subject: prop on trapper 501


Author:
Duncan Watkins
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Date Posted: 3/10/05 17:24:16

Hiya

I wondered if anyone could help me, I have a trapper 501 bilge keel, built in 1982. My engine is a yanmar 12, which I would assume should push me along quite nicely. The engine was professionally overhalled just before I brought her 2 years ago.

The thing is I just don't seem to get the propulsion I expect. I was wondering if anyone knows what the recommended prop is for the 501 with this engine, is it 3 blades or two and any idea of the size of the propeller.

Any other ideas would be greatly appreciated...

Duncan

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Subject: T501 mast & sail config


Author:
Andrew Maslen
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Date Posted: 10/11/05 18:34:23

Hi there, can anyone help? I am in the process of bringing a Trapper 501 back up to scratch or somewhere near! My boat appears to have had a new mast & sails sometime prior to my purchase & whilst both mast & sails are in excellent condition, I would like to reassure myself that they are in fact the correct measurements & configuration for the boat. When I bought her I had to remove the mast & fabricate a fibreglass wedge plate to fit between the base of the mast & the mast deckplate, as there was a gap of approx 4-5mm at the front edge of the mast when rigging was correctly tensioned, all the weight of the mast & pressure of the rigging was being loaded on the back edge of the mast, this has started me pondering if the mast & sail sizes are correct. If anyone can advise the original spec, sail sizes & mast height etc, I would be most grateful.
Thanking you in anticipation, kind regards,

Andrew

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Subject: Trapper 500 Black Prince for sale


Author:
Nicholas Hill
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Date Posted: 2/11/05 18:52:03

I'm sure we don't want the forum to turn into a 'Boats for Sale' list, but ... if anyone knows anyone interested, Black Prince is on the market.

I retire in July 2006, and am buying a new boat [new as in brand new] - a Huzar 30, which they make in Poland. I'm going to collect it from Gdansk [air fare 14.99!] and spend a few months in the Baltic [anyone up for a Baltic cruise?].

Duncan Kent from Sailing Today came out for one of their articles - snag was that it was 20knots gusting 30, so we were well reefed. Boat handled nicely in the conditions, however.

I'm offering her at a bargain price of 12,500, as I'd prefer to avoid brokers etc.

There's more about her on www.channelpilot.info.

Nicholas Hill

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Subject: TS240 for sale


Author:
Kim
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Date Posted: 21/10/05 18:25:18

Well After a long and heartfelt talk with my family, I have decided that I am going to sell OPTICA. Due to a large extension required on back of house and the Admiral doing an O/U course wich envolves a lot of weekend study, I know that I will not use the boat for a year or two. I could store it on my land but every one knows how quickly a boat disintergrates when not in use, and I could not bear to see her go the same way as she was when I bought her.
List of things. keel box top box 2003 windows new2005, battery new2005,compass new 2005, Hydraulics all serviced new seals etc, New wiring 2003, New standing and some running rigging 2003, 5hp Yamaha with less than 60 hours (new 2002) VHF, Garmin 120 GPS,AH800 autohelm etc etc. Oh sails 8 years old and still in reasonable nick. main no2 genny ,working jib, hardly used storm jib and spinny. All headsails hank on. price on brokerage 9500.
They say 2 happiest days of boating life is the day you buy a boat and the day you sell it. This will not be a happy day butthe sensible thing to do. Hey you never know a couple of years time and I will join the club again.
Kim

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Subject: Trapper 300 Height


Author:
Robin and Fiona
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Date Posted: 17/10/05 23:24:09

We've just bought a Trapper 300 which is now at Starcross. We intend to take it up the canal to Exeter for the winter.

One slight problem is will it go under the M5?

We've looked in vain for the height to the top of the mast. The clearance is 10m so we need to find out if the mast needs to be dropped.

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Subject: Trapper 500


Author:
Andrew
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Date Posted: 1/11/05 2:11:58

The deck joint sealant in my 1973 Trapper 500 is breaking down, and the tar like solution is running down the inside of the hull behind the cabin lockers, below the cockpit, and at the v-berth. Has anyone else encountered this problem and what is the repair?

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Subject: The Gas Man


Author:
Neil
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Date Posted: 18/10/05 16:14:56

I recently had my gas instalation given Corgi certification. I got a guy local to the new boats home to fit a cooker (also Corgi certified) and he told me my gas installation is unsafe.

Essentially if your piping is 5/16's there will be a significant pressure drop at the cooker (in my case 5mb) which is outside the 2.5mb maximum limit.

I have spoken with Corgi and they confirm the new chaps findings as a problem, so the original guy is (hopefully) going to replace all the pipe with 3/8's for no extra charge. I say I hope, as I he has yet to get back to me about WHEN he'll do this, but I'm blowed if I'm forking out another 300 pounds...

Anybody else experienced similar?

BTW - The main concrn here is that with the wrong pressure being delivered to the cooker it will not burn the gas properly and cause carbon dioxide to be burnt, creating the silent & deadly Carbon Monoxide.

Tip from the Gas Man was always have some ventalation when making a cuppa - 1 washboard out type thing SOunds great in theory but on those cold anchorages I lock up before a brew -- why waste the heat!

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Subject: trapper 400


Author:
chris
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Date Posted: 29/10/05 11:25:44

hi i am thinking of buying a trapper 400 she has an inboard petrol engine and a average sail wardrobe,i have no idea what to look out for any ideas/

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Subject: T500 for sale


Author:
Russ
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Date Posted: 21/10/05 17:59:37

hi all, 'Arkadina', 1979 fin keel T500 with 501 interior is for sale, many upgrades and recent refit. for full details email Twinkeelz@yahoo.co.uk Russ.

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Subject: Who wants to be a celebrity?


Author:
nick
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Date Posted: 5/10/05 13:45:39

Hi Folks,

I have received the following missive... any takers?

Hi Nick


We are looking for a good example Trapper 500 or 501 to review in the used boat section of our magazine. This will simply involve looking over the boat, making a few notes and chatting with the owner, then going out for a short sail with the owner, with a photographer shooting us from a nearby RIB.


We cant pay the willing owner Im afraid, but he/she will be presented with several large professional photographs after publication, and will of course have the kudos of be published in a leading UK sailing mag.


I would be most grateful if you could put this to your relevant members for their perusal.


Kind regards,

Duncan


Duncan Kent

Boat Review Editor

Sailing Today

Swanwick Marina

Southampton

Hants SO31 1ZL

Tel: 01460 220250

Mob: 07711 717653

Email: duncan.kent@sailingtoday.co.uk

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Subject: T500 for sale


Author:
Russell Freeman
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Date Posted: 20/10/05 0:33:50

'Arkadina' T500 with the 501 layout, 1979 fin keel, refitted, lots of upgrades. {one design stanchion bases inc.) for sale now. have bought bigger. email for full details. twinkeelz@yahoo.co.uk Russ

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Subject: Shore power


Author:
Colin Griffiths
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Date Posted: 17/10/05 5:53:43

Hi chaps,
I would like to fit a permanent shore power socket to my trapper 500/1.(Nimbus Too)
Can anyone suggest a good location?
Many thanks
Colin.

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Subject: Wanted: Trapper 300


Author:
Sean Jacobs
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Date Posted: 6/10/05 19:11:41

I am very keen to purchase a Trapper 300. If anyone is thinking of selling or can put me in touch with someone who is, I would be very grateful.

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Subject: strange postings


Author:
nick
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Date Posted: 14/10/05 0:33:39

hi Folks,

we have had a few odd postings recently.

One was a link to a porn site, I simply removed that and it hasn't returned.

The other was very odd, just a link to an email address. I've removed that once before and it returned again tonight.

It has a dynamically assigned IP address and a host name.

I've barred the host and also any poster having an IP address from the same host.

It is just possible that I may have banned someone legitimate.

My contact details should be flagged up when the banned person tries to post again, if it is legit please contact me and I'll sort it out.

If anyone notices something untoward on the board please feel free to contact me and I'll check it out. Somebody was kind enough to do this about the porn site but I'd already found it.

That won't always be the case though, so do get in touch if anyone is abusing our hospitality.

ta

Nick

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Subject: Does the Weather Hate Trappers?


Author:
Richard Swire
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Date Posted: 9/10/05 22:33:39

As we departed Southsea in glorious sunshine we were looking forward to seeing other Trapper owners in Yarmouth. I knew that Much Ado would be there, having recieved a call from him on Friday night, already there. 16 knts gusting 21. 2 reefs in the main and not much Genny out, still 5.5knts to windward is not to be sneered at!! Just off cowes, things started to get exiting, the 16 gusting 21 became a steady 24 gusting 28, passed Black Prince (Nick Hill )heading towards Cowes and as we arrived at Beaulea Beacon solent coastguard gave the forecast, no gale warnings, no strong wind warnings, NW 3/4 gusting 5, decreasing 3. 20 minutes later we had a steady 30 knts gusting 34. Then it rained. I had thought at this point of turning back and diving in to Cowes. As we arrived at Yarmouth entrance to put away what little sail we had up, things had settled to a steady 28 knts. Southsea to Yarmouth in under 4hours. Phone call from Brad inviting us over for Cheese beer and Biscuits and a crawl over his boat. As we climbed in, Graham from Fawley appeared, wet bedragled, but enthusiastic to see company. Sunday broke with glorious sunshine and nil wind. Perhaps next time we should meet on the main land, Motorway service station?

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Subject: TS 240 - anchor line round keel


Author:
Henry & Mary Brown
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Date Posted: 20/09/05 0:02:19

We've had a great summer working our way up the east coast. But 3 times, we've had bad moments being lassoed round the keel when the tide has turned and/or with wind against tide - twice the anchor rode, once a mooring line. We've ended up lying athwart the current with the rode tight from the bow under the hull. It's very hard to get untangled but so far we've always managed it, at slack tide, after much struggling. Is there something about the design of the keel that makes this particularly likely, or have we just been unlucky?

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Subject: TS240 Toe Rail


Author:
Tim Ellis
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Date Posted: 4/10/05 9:55:51

The toe rail leaks on Boobytrap due to the original mastic or bedding compound getting on a bit and also due to stress on the stanchions.
Now, someone has told me that there is a possibility that the toe rail will be holding the deck and hull together and therefore to be very wary about taking it off!
Has anyone had any experience of this?

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Subject: Trapper T28 - replacement engine


Author:
Jane
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Date Posted: 28/09/05 12:10:17

We need to replace the engine on a Trapper 28 - has any body any suggestions for suitable engines? - how did they fair with replacement fitted? Any tips would be much appreciated
regards jane

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Subject: Yanmar YS cooling water pump


Author:
Brian Hardy
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Date Posted: 14/08/05 23:11:08

The engine cooling water pump on our YSM8 engined T300 has started leaking. Anybody know if it is possible to replace seals or is it a new pump job. If the latter, does it have to be a Yanmar one or are there alternative available ? I presume the pump is very similar to that on the T500/501 if fitted with a YS series engine.

Brian

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Subject: Yarmouth 8th 9th October


Author:
Richard Swire
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Date Posted: 26/09/05 15:05:41

Yarmouth awaits all trappers, hopefully we will not have a full blown gale this time. Can you let me know name of boat and numbers please.

Regards

Richard

Pamino T500

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Subject: Folding Propellor


Author:
TYrone Galea
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Date Posted: 26/09/05 11:04:39

Hi All,

I just bought a trapper 950 with a volvo 2020 and folding prop which seems to be quite common on trappers since most picture of other trappers i saw seemed to have this two bladed folding prop.

Mine needs replacing and was wondering if anyone knows what is the brand and where they can be found.

Thanks & Regards
Tyrone
Malta.

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Subject: Spoiling Samara


Author:
Neil
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Date Posted: 19/09/05 17:47:15

Ok, it was our first boat show as boat owners - we took ownership of Samara in June this year. It's fair to say we had quite a bit to look at and check out, but if you are looking for odd's and ends I think the Beaulie boat jumble will be more help this coming weekend.

We got a few bargains at the show, but they were the big things you'd hope to get a discount on like VHF and outboard.

Lovely day out though and we were there from 10-6 taking the Gosport fast-cat to Southampton (35 mins for approx 18). Worth it for a day out -- the only shame was it was a glorious sailing day spent on land and Sunday provided a late sea breeze -- too late for us to make any use of on Sunday.

Roll on the weekend...

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Subject: anchor winch


Author:
frank brooks
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Date Posted: 12/09/05 20:35:21

has anyone tried fitting an anchor winch on a trapper 501.
at the age of 79 im looking for an easier way to up anchor

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Subject: TS240 Roller Foresail Reefing


Author:
Jonathan Dodd
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Date Posted: 14/09/05 12:30:25

I have sailed my TS240 for many years using a wardrobe of 4 East Coast Racing foresails set on a foil. Most of my sailing is single-handed and I have begun to wonder if I would be better off with roller reefing. The last two seasons seem to have brought more wind variation with trips to the fore deck - I blame global warming and I tend to put off a sail change as long as possible in the hope it will not be necessary but that sometimes makes for a wet and difficult experience. Sometimes without a lot of searoom.

I have found it not unusual to go from No1 Genoa through No 2 to Working jib and back all in the day and I am not sure if a roller sail can cover all these - also the present sails do set well and most have full length luff which I believe is the key to the drive given. What have other owners experiences been if you have made a change - have you lost noticeable performance and what makes have been found good or not so good.

I have just fitted a Barton Boom Strut which has simplified mainsail reefing and handling having struggled for years without a topping lift and just a short cord and snap hook from the backstay. It has also helped single-handed foresail changing allowing easier depowering of the main while leaving the helm to my Tillerpilot.

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Subject: Trapper 300 Bow Roller


Author:
Chris Stuart
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Date Posted: 10/05/05 9:45:07

I have dammaged my bow roller on Trapeze, does any one know where to get a new one cast, or does anyone have a spare?

Chris

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Subject: Sorry to have confused you all


Author:
Richard Swire
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Date Posted: 1/09/05 12:09:29

Sorry to have confused you all, proposed date for the meet is the 8th/ 9th October

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Subject: Trapper Meet in Yarmouth 8th 9th October


Author:
Richard Swire
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Date Posted: 31/08/05 13:33:43

Looking at the tides this weekend looks the best bet for those of us comming down the Solent. If you are up for a meet gossip and put faces to names on the forum, please email me with boat name and likely crew. It will be open to any Trapper, or Trapper sympathizers. ie Frank Marsden. If freinds wish to come along who don't have aTrapper, that's fine.

email

Richard.Swire@btinternet.com or
rs@swireassociates.co.uk

Mobile 07866 764 940

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Subject: TS 240 hydraulics


Author:
Henry Brown
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Date Posted: 22/08/05 19:16:19

We have a TS240 (no. 18, now called Jessie) with a transom-mounted hydraulic jack for the keel. It works fine and was, I believe, re-fettled by the previous owner, but I feel uncomfortable about my ignorance of its mechanics and maintenance. In particular, it leaks a small amount of fluid and I don't know how to replenish it or with what.

At the top of the pump block, under the handle, is a hexagonal nut apparently secured with a split pin. Is this the filler point? To the left of the block (looking aft) is a horizontal cylinder that I presume is the reservoir. Any advice or comments gratefully received.

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Subject: T300 Sail Dimensions


Author:
Gary
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Date Posted: 24/08/05 20:56:38

Can anyone confirm the genoa and main sail dimensions for the T300, having just become a proud owner, I think the sails will need replacing for next season.
Regards

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Subject: T500 Tiller Sheered Off In Poole!


Author:
Neil Smith
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Date Posted: 15/08/05 13:00:10

So I was on my first summer holiday onboard Samara (T500/501), and had made it to Poole. The weather kept us there for a bit, and with west veering NW predicted for 3 days I knew the trip to weigmouth was off unless we wanted a 12hour beat after rounding St Albans.

As we slipped lines at the town quay and headed out to the main harbour channel I was under power doing about 3 knots over the ground. There was swell present due to the stink pot scramble after the Poole bridge had lifted, and I was feeling a LOT of resistence on the helm. Going ahead with the tiller between my knees, it felt like I was steering her astern - she voilently kicked from port to Stdb. As I corrected the violent kick to port, the tiller swung to starboard, knocked my leg out of the way, crashed into the starboard locker, and SHEERED OFF!

Yes - it broke off where the metal bracket finished. I can only assume that there was some water ingress and weakening against the tiller at that point, but I put her in neutral and prepared to run forward and drop the hook. Alas, I had no time as the brown sea Island ferry came towards me and hovered as my boat driffted in the middle of the channel. I looked the skipper on the bridge straight in the eye, and raised the remainder of the tiller in my right hand aloft! The HM RIB put us back on the quay and I bought a saw to cut back to good wood, and used the hand drill I had on board to fit the bracket back.

I still don't know what caused the problem. Moored up the rudder feels ok - I haven't had her long, so it's hard to say if its worse than before. Under sail she's OK, but with the tiller at least 18" shorter than before, I think the loss in leverage makes the helm feel harder. Under Power she still feels quite heavy (more so than sail - but maybe thats down to speed... is that normal? Balanced between my knees, it's quite heavy moving under power. So I'm left with a few questions...

1. Where do I go to ghet a new tiller made up - and can anybody provide me with a plan?

2. Should I dry-out and drop the rudder to look at the bushes?

3. Any of this sounding familiar to anybody?

Your informed opinions would be greatly appreciated. This incedent asside we had a wonderful 2 weeks - and to be honest it all added to the fun. Breaking the new to the father in law that his '84 and completley unreliable outboard is in at least 15m of water of Newtown creek was not easy yesterday, but he took it well :-)

Back to work...

Neil

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Subject: Trapper Meet in Yarmouth late September


Author:
Richard Swire
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Date Posted: 18/08/05 15:20:53

Hands up all of those that would consider meeting mark 2 without the F7 winds this time.

Contact details either the forum or rs@swireassociates.co.uk

Considering the 24/25th Sep or maybe first week of Oct

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Subject: Subject: information about Trapper 700


Author:
Harry ten Hof
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Date Posted: 29/08/04 14:49:52

I am looking for all information about the 35 foot Trapper 700 centrebaord
built in 1979
Lots of thanks
Harry (Holland)

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Subject: Where is 'Petite Folie'


Author:
Jeanette Garner
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Date Posted: 28/07/05 23:43:51

Does anyone know the whereabouts of 'Petite Folie'?

She's a 501, was our family boat, and sold at Deacons about 3 years ago.

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Subject: TS240 luff rope foresails for sale


Author:
Henry & Mary Brown
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Date Posted: 24/06/05 23:39:46

Having bought a furling system we have these sails for sale - we'd like them to be used and not to clutter up our spare room - contribution to the furling set up also welcome.
No 1. 4.4 m foot. Sail number.
No 2. 3.2 m foot. Small repair at top. Blue leech strip; thin coloured stripes.
No 3. 3 m foot, battens, one missing. Sail number and trapper logo.
Working jib 2.7m
All offers considered!
Storm jib 2m as new! (maybe we should keep this, or maybe buy one that fits around the furled genoa?)

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Subject: TRAPPER 500


Author:
SEVERINE
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Date Posted: 7/08/05 14:18:05

Hello,

We have a trapper 500 (1977) and we would like to sale it, is there someone interested??

We are in the south of France, between Cannes and Saint Tropez...

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Subject: TS240 Storage Bins


Author:
Tim Ellis
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Date Posted: 3/08/05 13:41:43

I am trying to refurbish the interior of 'Boobytrap' and address the lack of storage space. A previous owner removed the original storage bins and installed a shelf with fiddle rail. I'd like to go back to the storage bin/tray idea but the originals did not come with the boat.
Now this might be a bit of a long shot, but has anyone else removed theirs that are now surplus to requirements? Or has anyone come up with a cunning solution for better storage above the backrests? I am going to try the cave locker idea below the backrests mentioned in a previous message. Suggestions most welcome!

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