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Date Posted: Wed, Apr 14 2004, 23:03:44
Author: MKIceman
Subject: Re: Board/Chatroom vs. Site
In reply to: Long Time Lurker 's message, "Re: Board/Chatroom vs. Site" on Wed, Apr 14 2004, 22:50:54

>-------> The Good Name of Gaff<---------
>
>Yes. GAFF did have a great reputation. I mean, we were
>mentioned as a contender in Time's Man of the Year
>last year, nominated for a Pulitzer for the badfic
>reviews. I heard that Bush was going to ask some of
>the long time posters to negotitate the
>Israeli/Palestinen (sp) conflict until he heard we got
>TOS'd off a free board.
>
>Geez. It's a freaking MESSAGE BOARD.

LOL! That's perfect commentary, I love it! Yes, I was definitely being over-reactive.

>That said-the reason I come to GAFF is to read about
>badfics and to read the comments people make about
>badfics. I don't particularly feel that we should

That's what GAFF was about.

>organize groups to flame bad authors-with the
>exception of the nutjobs that write Anne Frank furry
>fic and that chick who wrote the Mengle romance.

That's not what GAFF was about.

>The board seemed to be going lately to delibrately
>stir up the hornet's nest and start flame wars.
>
>I mean, I don't mind duking it out (or watching from
>the sidelines, usually) with the authors, friends, and
>sockpuppets that come to the board to defend their
>fics. I didn't like it when the members of the
>messageboards seemed to form gangs to inflict justice
>on the authors of badfics (with the exceptions noted
>above.)

Exactly.

>But--it's just a messageboard. I don't doubt that
>people here have formed friendships with each other.
>But all messageboards evolve. As places on the net
>grow more popular the original meaning of boards, the
>cozyness, changes.

I agree, but it's the course of that evolution that took a serious wrong turn, as I'm sure you will agree.

>Calling names and picking on Heywood and the people
>who are chums with him isn't going to magically return
>the board to the state in which you think we once
>were.

I agree, and I pointed this out in my previous post: not being a savior, but it was one step, and the first step. The second step is right here, right now: talking about the future of GAFF.

>I'd like to see GAFF focus on finding and snarking on
>badfic as it once did. I vote for a website and a
>chatroom and a messageboard. I'd be willing to donate
>a small amount of money for a stable envirnoment in
>the same way I support sluggy.com. I'd also support a
>small bit of moderation-a gentle hand can nudge things
>in the right direction.

I agree, but I'm not so sure about the board/chatroom so soon. Then again, I'm too nostalgic right now. ;)

>And someone needs to take a happy pill and apologize
>to Heywood.

If he helped wreck GAFF, or at least helped throw its fanbase/membership off-course, I'm not apologizing for anything said. Prove me wrong, and I'll eat my words.

--Matt

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