I don’t get what point you’re trying to make to be honest. Players/agents aren’t stupid, they know the power they hold by letting a contract run down. All bit of a moot point for me anyway, despite being a fan favourite for his attitude and endeavour, he’s a middle of the road prem full back, who gets injured a lot and doesn’t offer a huge amount going forward, I’d offer him a decent deal but if not move on and use the money saved in finding someone younger to complement cast. -- SW6.doc

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Date Posted: Wednesday, June 25, 09:51:38am
Author: Henry1879
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Subject: I don’t get what point you’re trying to make to be honest. Players/agents aren’t stupid, they know the power they hold by letting a contract run down. All bit of a moot point for me anyway, despite being a fan favourite for his attitude and endeavour, he’s a middle of the road prem full back, who gets injured a lot and doesn’t offer a huge amount going forward, I’d offer him a decent deal but if not move on and use the money saved in finding someone younger to complement cast.
In reply to: Mickey 's message, "and as soon as another Club make their offer and he agrees , then back we come with a new and improved deal ." on Wednesday, June 25, 09:17:16am

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Indecisive by the Club , we either want him or we prefer and look at an alternative . If the latter , then we should not be going back now with a better deal . That replacement should already have been lined up and ready to join . But no , it’s so much less hassle to simply try one last offer to tempt him to stay . (NT) -- Mickey, Wednesday, June 25, 10:01:02am (82-132-229-117.dab.02.net/82.132.229.117)
- It doesn't work like that though does it? Players, agents and clubs are all engaged in a process of price setting in an opaque market. That means no one actually knows what the "correct" price is. Its set via a process of offers and counters between club and player, taking into account what others are willing to pay. For Tete this is the last big chance to cash in. He's incentivized to play clubs off on another to maximize his contract. No matter what we opened with, he'd still do it. (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, June 25, 11:54:26am (NoHost/172.56.177.66)
  - I don’t know why people keep assuming we’ve offered him anything. As below, players can easily say when approached, sorry not discussing, I’m waiting to see what the market can offer me, tbey know they hold all the aces. Maybe if you went huge, 4 yrs, 100k a week he may think that’s worth it; but he’s not worth anywhere near that so the club shouldn’t ever offer him that. I’d be happy to let tete walk and KWP come in if the finances aren’t miles apart. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, June 25, 12:01:01pm (82-132-221-57.dab.02.net/82.132.221.57)
    - No disagreements there. I do think I recall it reported that we had offered something in-season and Marco saying there were discussions. But irrespective I always find this season to be the time of the Championship Manager ideas to surface, that contracts are just offer and acceptance, not a complex series of moving parts (inc by both club and player checking on alternatives) (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, June 25, 12:09:43pm (NoHost/172.56.177.66)
      - Agreed and far more complex than in yesteryear, clauses, bonuses, all sorts now regularly included, it’s not just here you go Kenny, he’s the 50k a week you were on before for 3 more years and he signs because us fans think he bleeds black and white. Ultimately nobody knows bar the few people in the room privvy to the conversations between player and club, as seen with Liv this season with Trent, salah & VVD. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, June 25, 12:31:42pm (82-132-221-57.dab.02.net/82.132.221.57)

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