Well done kit and the team... -- Paul, Sunday, March 01, 09:00:09pm(5aceb32c.bb.sky.com/126.96.36.199)
Let's keep this going for the rest of the season,get smith back, have a plan b and c and then see what happens...and of course hammer Brentford at Easter!
Nothing like a win -- Djon, Sunday, March 01, 08:40:55pm(host109-158-64-208.range109-158.btcentralplus.com/188.8.131.52)
Nothing like a good win to put a spring in your step .. til the next match. Love Fulham. Everything a bonus!
Well done to the Irish in the rugby...... -- Biff, Sunday, March 01, 05:07:29pm(NoHost/184.108.40.206)
Hurts to say it but thought especially early on they were the better side. Is it me or did the ref seem a little biased towards England? Several decisions went against us.
Pre match montage -- Mison, Sunday, March 01, 04:05:56pm(cpc10-addl4-2-0-cust140.6-3.cable.virginm.net/220.127.116.11)
Have to say I found the pre game video montage quite stirring yesterday. Don't think I've seen it before. It's probably shown every week and I'm too blind or drunk to notice.
v Derby -- Robespierre, Sunday, March 01, 02:51:11pm(18.104.22.168.ioe.ac.uk/22.214.171.124)
Impossible not to be delighted with both the performance and result yesterday - our best `full 90' minutes of the season by some distance I thought.
I am highly critical of Symons and the way he's running the team - but it would be unfair of me not to give credit where it's due to him and the players for a thoroughly professional and effective showing.
My question of course is; can we try and establish this as the norm please?
Well, where did that come from! -- Ken, Sunday, March 01, 02:48:41pm(cpc6-nrte25-2-0-cust329.8-4.cable.virginm.net/126.96.36.199)
What a nice surprise, a win coupled with an excellent performance but does beg the question why has it been so long coming? Still, well done Kit and the team.
The important thing for me was that our better experienced players really came to the party and that hasn't always happened. If we are going to continue to advance the youth it's really important that the quality, experience and attitude of the senior players around them have to lead the way.
My question is can Kit attract that type of player? Certainly Richards, only on loan I know looks to be decent now he's settling in and he's still quite young himself but yesterday Parker, Ruiz, McCormack were excellent and brought out the best in the younger players.
Really hope we hope we can push on from here, we really have to get some consistency in our performances and the results will hopefully follow.
Norwich v Ipswich. -- John Saunders, Sunday, March 01, 02:38:32pm(NoHost/188.8.131.52)
A promotion match ! Says it all about this crap league in which we struggle against relegation ! By God Khan , youve got to do something about it next year.When I see the crap in the top 6 it makes me wild !,
ust read that felix ze cherman has given his 800 000 shares in the rangers to a supporters group (tbf he probably realised that they were worth the square root of eff all)....i wonder if they'll sound him out about being the manager (snigger) -- fb (mon the hoops), Sunday, March 01, 01:24:52pm(cpc1-brig16-2-0-cust1003.3-3.cable.virginm.net/184.108.40.206)
Best Team -- Fkev, Sunday, March 01, 01:04:15pm(97e72567.skybroadband.com/220.127.116.11)
Has Kit accidentally stumbled across his best XI? Crawley Woodworm looked markedly better than Rodders, which tbh isn't saying much, although Woodworm did look full of energy and took the header very well. Parker and Ruiz both started which for me is an absolute no-brainer and they should be the first 2 names on the teamsheet every week. Richards looked decent at RB, as did Staf LB and both centre-halves coped well with whatever Derby had. LVC looked back to his best (for me that's because him and SP complement each other so well). Tunni got stuck in, and it was his best game. Was it luck or judgement that that team put together our best performance for months, or maybe even best of the season? I'm not saying Kit is a good manager (just yet), but some of the rubbish I read on here on Friday after his press conference was bordering on embarrassing. I didn't realise we had so many body-language experts and psychologists amongst our ranks.
Its a shame we haven't raised our game more often this season, I'm afraid thats just down to Kit.... Just hope things are happening behind the scenes looking for the rightman to have a real go next season. -- simo, Sunday, March 01, 12:10:22pm(5ac2f566.bb.sky.com/18.104.22.168)
Fulham fans yesterday -- Barry, Sunday, March 01, 11:37:31am(cpc2-epso5-2-0-cust496.6-3.cable.virginm.net/22.214.171.124)
What a great performance by Fulham, every player giving 100%, closing down players, putting in tackles passing well and we finally get our first goal and deserved to. How do we repay the whites performance? By chanting "we're winning at home, how shit must you be..."
I know it was a minority and we've been very poor but still confused me.
For those that couldn't make it yesterday .Can not praise Scott Parker enough.The guy is a great example for the young 'uns to follow. He was all over the place directing the play , giving advice to the others. cajoling where needed .....As for tiring in the second half as some one posted. He got lumped twice in the first half, could just about walk but soldiered on in the second -lead by example.Complete professional on and off the park.
Yesterday's Performance. -- Glenn Elliott, Sunday, March 01, 10:59:16am(host-2-98-244-186.as13285.net/126.96.36.199)
Block tackles commitment work rate and team ethic. Unseen till yesterday that should be the norm the manager and players have let us down this season.
well done Fulham -- Alboy, Sunday, March 01, 10:24:25am(host86-174-114-163.range86-174.btcentralplus.com/188.8.131.52)
It was a performance we have not seen for a while every player buying in a shift and fighting for the ball. I agree with amy posters for me the difference was having a player Cauley up top who can hold the ball up made a big difference to us, he had a very good game. Parker was outstanding with his closing down and pushing us forward. He was assisted brilliantly by Bryan Ruiz who's composure on the ball makes a huge difference to us as a team. Ross McCormack was also very good showing he is not only a goalscorer but a very intelligent footballer. One player I think deserves particular praise is the much Maligned Stafylides who add an excellent game against a good winger in Ince. Richards also had his best game and when we play as we did as McClared said after the game you have to wonder why we are where we are with so many talented players.
The only poor performance for me was Tunnicliffe who spurned a great chance and was generally pretty poor, although he did improve in the second half. Maybe its confidence but he needs to do more.
Finally I thought Kavanagh did very well when he came on and worked hard. The biggest surprise was how well Dembele played when he came on, Often he has looked a little lightweight , but he looked strong and very powerful and that is a big plus for us. With Smith coming back we have competition for the striker role. On form Cauley has to keep his place as Rodalega has not been playing well.
Also well done Kit Symons, I have given him as much stuck as anyone but we have to continue with the same purpose and resolve for the rest if the season. Glad I bought my Watford tickets a good day for us Fulham fans for a change.
Woodrow -- Bobby Drake (Happy), Sunday, March 01, 08:30:56am(NoHost/184.108.40.206)
Good performance by all the players, but the real difference was
Woodrow. By holding the ball up, by running the channels, he made it
Easy for his team mates to pass effectively into the final third. So different
To Hugo when ball just bounces back. Also impressed with
Dembele's 15 minutes. Always skilful, but he appeared more powerful yesterday.
Quote from Schteve -- POPW, Sunday, March 01, 07:50:02am(5ad38f47.bb.sky.com/220.127.116.11)
Steve McClaren after the match,
" with the players that theyve got they should be doing much better"
So so very true !
He didnt intend that as a dig at Symons, but he's so right, with the players we have in our squad we shouldnt be involved in a relegation fight with Rotherham and Millwall.
trouble today -- concerned, Sunday, March 01, 03:48:22am(host86-166-0-74.range86-166.btcentralplus.com/18.104.22.168)
great result but unfortunately the day was marred by so called ffc fans behaving like Neanderthals before and after the game. a group of visiting fans were walking past the hammy end turnstiles and were set upon by a largish group of yobbos that we don't need at the cottage . I witnessed the same thing after as well . thoroughly ashamed to be a Fulham fan tonight .
Message for Straight Talk & More Balls -- 'ave 'im Vic, Sunday, March 01, 12:36:09am(host81-159-219-155.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/22.214.171.124)
When you've supported this great Club of ours through thin and thin for 48 seasons, you learn one thing - to expect the unexpected. Bear that in mind before you consider unleashing your puerile wit against me again.
Well, that was a nice surprise -- JoeT, Saturday, February 28, 10:13:33pm(cpc70169-walt4-0-0-cust248.13-2.cable.virginm.net/126.96.36.199)
The only home game this year I've turned up to expecting to lose and we win, and to be honest fairly comfortably, considering the opposition.
Big shouts out to;
Ruiz, man of the match. He was constantly involved, harassing and tackling and most importantly, finding his team mates with the simple ball.
Parker was also immense but did tire in the 2nd half
Woodrow did more work in one match than Hugo has managed in 5. Harried the Derby defenders and chased every ball and topped it off with a goal.
Hutchinson won every thing in the air 2nd half.
This is what we are capable of. Shame it doesn't happen more often but we all know we are an average/poor Championship team and good teams play like today most games, not 1 in every 6 matches. Still a most satisfying performance and result and not one that was what you would call lucky, unlike some of our other home wins Fully deserved.
Richards -- hb, Saturday, February 28, 09:51:47pm(5adccd38.bb.sky.com/188.8.131.52)
notice everybody saying who they thought had a good game today, personally think it was the best all round TEAM performance all season , but man of the match for me was Richards, superb all game, a few more performances like that I may even warm to Kit Symons lol
Also Rans -- White Noise, Saturday, February 28, 08:50:43pm(d207-216-238-186.bchsia.telus.net/184.108.40.206)
Fulham have found their level. Fighting off relegation in the Championship and believing that a win against Derby is something to be proud of.
How come I haven't had a mention? -- Hammy Pigeon, Saturday, February 28, 08:34:11pm(host86-154-248-202.range86-154.btcentralplus.com/220.127.116.11)
Yes the boys did well today but I followed Kit's instructions to the letter and put off the Derby attackers in the first half.Come on credit where credits due. Won't be able to make Watford away but I'll be back next Friday for another big home game.
Was it Fulham good today or Derby on an off day? -- The optimist, Saturday, February 28, 08:01:27pm(host-92-17-228-175.as13285.net/18.104.22.168)
I felt a number of Fulham players played to their potential today but I was wondering if it was that which made the difference? Take your chances and you win matches, Fulham took chances today and defended as a team without leaving individuals isolated, however, Derby had a bad day at the office....fortunately.
I'd preferred to have won having Kit made a tactical change.
Parker Must Start (reprise) -- Fkev, Saturday, February 28, 07:40:33pm(97e72567.skybroadband.com/22.214.171.124)
Well it's lucky that 99% of the Fulham fraternity that actually attend games do not share the views of the Tiff community. ANOTHER MoM performance from Scott today and frankly I've lost count of how many that's been this season. Ok, that might be like saying a Lada is the best car in Russia, but if you can't see what he offers the TEAM, then you aren't watching the same game as me. Delighted he got a standing O when he went off and everyone was singing his name. Superb.
Staf also had a good game and I really feel he comes in for some every unfair flak. LVC also excellent until he went off injured. Ruiz was decent without being brilliant, but his skill and comfort on the ball is immeasurable when there are so many inexperienced players on the same team. Bett didn't make a save I can remember. Hutch/Bod also come in for bundles - but I think they both played very well. Class goal from Bod - delighted for him, but not for my one of drinking companions before the game who called Bod 1st gs and also 2-0 Fulham and backed neither (sorry DB)!!!
Tunnicliffe's best game too. We are better without Rodders. Where are the posters who were slating Kit yesterday for his body-language ffs? Kit in - at least until the Summer!!!! Non-rant ends
Woodrow -- Bernard & Doris, Saturday, February 28, 07:00:11pm(NoHost/126.96.36.199)
Lots of strong performances today - Parker, Ruiz, Staf, MCormack and Woodrow come to mind. For me, the latter now deserves to start over Hugo R.
Much improved -- Depressed, Saturday, February 28, 06:33:51pm(host-78-146-61-217.as13285.net/188.8.131.52)
Credit where credit is due today was a massive improvement on recent performances. It made a huge difference to have a centre forward who was actully winning headers and his hold up play was brilliant.Also the short cameo from Dembele was very encouraging.Maybe Hugos injury was a blessing in disguise.
Both Parker and Ruis were excellent in midfield and the defence was more solid than of late.
One slight downside again I was not overly impressed with Tunnicliffe.
Hopefully we will now kick on but I suppose it is a case of wait and see.
If only we had more performances like today we would have been at the
other end of the table.
Give it a rest please ..... -- Langley Fulham, Saturday, February 28, 05:44:58pm(02789ebb.bb.sky.com/184.108.40.206)
Apparently our team played well today, but unfortunately Kit is still getting stick. I know "one swallow doesn't make a summer" and know we need to win many more games, but has anyone stopped to think that Kit was still the manager today,the difference being that the players all gave their best and showed what can be done if you try hard enough. Kit isn't an experienced manager I know, but give him a break and dont knock him today when his team just beat top of the division. Remember, you can lead a horse to water, but you cant make it drink!! Without the players giving 100% the best manager in the world wont get results.
Makes your mood so much better all weekend when Fulham put in a performance. This Fulham was a top 6 club today. -- Spuddles, Saturday, February 28, 05:38:36pm(5e0ed869.bb.sky.com/220.127.116.11)
Just because of the happy mood here's Zidane headbutting Madonna at The Brits this week.
well done kit but you still need to go.....and the players need to take a good look at themselves.... should always give 100% and not raise our game when the trap door looms... Kit will be gone at end of season lets get a real manager in and give it a real go next season..... think we might need to poach from another club to get the right man. -- simo, Saturday, February 28, 05:30:47pm(5ac2f566.bb.sky.com/18.104.22.168)
see further down please.thank you fulham fc -- frejusman., Saturday, February 28, 05:21:49pm(host86-174-71-243.range86-174.btcentralplus.com/22.214.171.124)
Well done boys of fulham.
You can be MEN when you dig in.
The time is now! -- Pete, Saturday, February 28, 05:13:02pm(host86-174-159-148.range86-174.btcentralplus.com/126.96.36.199)
After a good win it is now time for KIt to go. Seems a bit harsh but all I can see is this is a stay of execution. He will f**k up again! The time to change is now. Rigg and a new manager will then have the rest of the season and pre- season to mount a challenge. ffs Khan sanction this and get this club back to where we belong.
They got stuck in today which was what was needed. Imagine if they had shown that commitment from the start of the season where Fulham would be now. It's only one game though. Hope they keep it up. Just on a side note just how bad is the Scottish Champioship Hearts 10 Cowdenbeath 0!!! -- Spuddles, Saturday, February 28, 05:12:38pm(5e0ed869.bb.sky.com/188.8.131.52)
satisfying result -- greenpole, Saturday, February 28, 04:58:19pm(184.108.40.206.dynamic.jazztel.es/220.127.116.11)
Very good all round. Thoroughly deserved; surely more shots on target for the first time in about ever? That's all we ask, really. Keep that level up players and management and no one can complain.
Really Pleased -- Plodder, Saturday, February 28, 04:54:20pm(85-210-32-23.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com/18.104.22.168)
Great performance. Just as the team (and Kit) deserved criticism for recent performances, so the team (and Kit) deserve praise for today.
Recently Criticised -- Midlander, Saturday, February 28, 04:41:27pm(host86-156-148-206.range86-156.btcentralplus.com/22.214.171.124)
Listening to GJ, good to hear that Bodurov, Parker, and Ruiz, who have been the subject of such scorn from certain quarters on here recently, are all having an excellent and effective game. Can't wait to see Bodurov's first "screamer"!
Scott Parker -- Plodder, Saturday, February 28, 04:39:23pm(85-210-32-23.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com/126.96.36.199)
Based on GJ's commentary, Scott Parker has had a terrific match. Hope his going off does not herald a Derby comeback.
Wembley here we come! -- tung in-chik, Saturday, February 28, 04:01:03pm(188.8.131.52.dynamic.jazztel.es/184.108.40.206)
We can still make the playoffs. Win this, and then the next 12 on the bounce and we'll have 75 points which might be enough.
battling -- jayffc, Saturday, February 28, 03:58:33pm(cpc8-finc13-2-0-cust871.4-2.cable.virginm.net/220.127.116.11)
As is so often the case, when we chase people down with energy we come out on top. Right in there faces forcing mistakes today, where has that been for most of the season. Ruiz who so many say shirks tackles has been chasing everything down along with a number of others. Great first half...let's hope we can finish the job and not sit off them now. If we can build a run we can put ourselves in a more attractive position for bringing in players for the 'Rigg project' during the summer (yes I believe we will spend some money- call me mad but I feel Rigg will be essential in this)
Good battling performance and surprisingly 3 shots on target to Derby's 0. Hopefully we will not half 2nd half syndrome and have a totally different team come out in the 2nd half. -- Spuddles, Saturday, February 28, 03:52:06pm(5e0ed869.bb.sky.com/18.104.22.168)
What about that then .... -- Dab, Saturday, February 28, 03:50:11pm(cpc4-lea22-2-0-cust101.6-3.cable.virginm.net/22.214.171.124)
What a half ... where did that come from? Great play & superb strikes.
This is more like it .... now keep a clean sheet & keep up this intensity.
Help please -- Jari's Mullet, Saturday, February 28, 03:48:46pm(126.96.36.199.Static-bangalore-vsnl.net.in/188.8.131.52)
There must be some problem with my computer at the moment because it shows 0 as 2 and 2 as 0. Any computer whizzes there who could help me?
Get in -- Really well-taken goal by Bodurov. Playing pretty well up to now, though suspect there is more of a threat to come from Derby than they have shown so far., Saturday, February 28, 03:34:03pm(host86-143-155-75.range86-143.btcentralplus.com/184.108.40.206)
Good luck boys. -- Frejusman., Saturday, February 28, 02:50:49pm(host86-174-71-243.range86-174.btcentralplus.com/220.127.116.11)
Good luck .
Children of fulham v MEN OF DERBY.
Boy are you going to have to dig deep in this game,
But you could end up men yourselfs. Let's hope so.
70years a fan.only packed up going because of ill health.
Cheats 1 Crystal Palace 3 -- John Saunders, Saturday, February 28, 02:33:10pm(NoHost/18.104.22.168)
Got nothing against Crystal Palace (by and large a decent club) but the sooner you lot realise they not QPR are the biggest threat to our future support the better !
It’s obviously not a foregone conclusion that we’ll lose today but I don’t think anyone would be too inconvenienced if I suggested defeat is probable. Of course, there is always the ‘Fulhamish’ effect to consider, but even that appears to have vacated the cottage since Khan rolled in.
But getting to the point: I really like Symons in the respect that he’s a genuine bloke and wants what’s best for the club (although I realise there is an argument to suggest he would resign if that were the case) However, I certainly don’t think his heel in attitude reflects anything untoward or uncaring; he just desperately wants to succeed and I fear he has been guaranteed the position for this season by Khan, regardless. But we all know that Symons is absolutely clueless and taking us down.
I guess that is my biggest fear – that Symons won’t be replaced even if we get stuffed by 10 goals this afternoon. And if Kit was making the right decisions and playing the most effective players in their most effective positions, I would at least have more sympathy for him. But as things stand, Symons needs to step down or be forced. Tigana, Hoddle, even Curbs would be possible replacements at this stage, although I understand that it might be difficult o secure them on a short term position until we can properly search in the summer. Actually, I think Hoddle could be tempted. But anyway, I’m sure there is someone out there more experienced and available to help us avoid the drop.
If Symons does remain, despite another couple of defeats, then I have a feeling Matt Smith might just save our season and what’s left of Kits reputation. That is, of course, on the condition that he is selected on his return. I’d personally play a 4-4-2 dropping Rodders and playing Smith and McCormack up front. It can’t be any worse than not scoring goals, which is the situation at the moment. Plus those two banked 42 goals between them last season – doesn’t take a genius to figure out the most effective way forward.
Message to Kit -- Steve B, Saturday, February 28, 12:59:14pm(host86-169-233-31.range86-169.btcentralplus.com/22.214.171.124)
....don't forget the plan mate...
Predictable line-up so Derby's planning will work...
Lay down...roll over... ..don't shoot....leave subs til 90th minute...clap derby fans for coming down and taking over our ground due to apathy amongst Fulham fans..usual excuses in post match interview...Mitroglue fit in a week...cant wait for the next Wales game...im the best man for the job...mr khan is wonderful...ive tried to bring in 37 players but they all fell through ...bulls**t...bulls**t...bulls**t....etc etc etc.
A Wolf Hall medieval cuss 'By the thrice be-shitten' -- Straight Talking and more Balls Needed, Saturday, February 28, 12:32:33pm(126.96.36.199.dyn.plus.net/188.8.131.52)
'By the thrice be-shitten' hollow words of Chairman Khan!
Have just read our absent Chairman's programme notes and yes he appears to hold Symons responsible for everything, he even says Kit was acive in the January window but showed discipline and restraint. He says I'm confident we'll finish the season safe, sound and strong' Heard all that before last season, then we were relegated. -- Straight Talking and more Balls Needed, Saturday, February 28, 12:00:37pm(184.108.40.206.dyn.plus.net/220.127.116.11)
Having read his comments, I feel even more strongly that he is stringing us along, have no confidence in him and his Board whatsoever, nor in Kit. He clearly did not give Kit a budget but told him to make do and mend. As I've said before he and the Board and management are just winging it as they did last season hoping it's enough to stay up. Well Mr Khan and Co it won't do, we will go down if confidence keeps falling. You have duped all of us with your 'do whatever it takes' claims etc I don't believe a word that comes out of you and FFC lately. BTW where is this season's parachute payment?
NFL -- p, Saturday, February 28, 11:55:03am(02d9bef4.bb.sky.com/18.104.22.168)
It's nothing to do with bums on seats, the NFL will quietly accept a small crowd of 25000-30000, the ground for them is an advertising vehicle, the hoarding boards would generate revenue from multinationals that would have the PL jealous, the TV audiences & revenue dwarf anything remotely available soccer, this is what attracted Khan, the irony is that this just may be the start, the PL made it about money destroying our national game, surrendering both smaller clubs & the national team for the global buck, what they have done is possibly destroy football, clubs like Fulham, Bolton etc 25 years ago the Windies ruled the world in cricket, now that is a secondary sport to basketball, welcome to the future, thanks Mr Scudamore
What is the future -- 321p, Saturday, February 28, 11:30:17am(CPE-121-220-101-31.lnse3.win.bigpond.net.au/22.214.171.124)
Obviously living down in Australia means I am not as close to the action as many on here, although judging by some of the posts, it seems that this distance has protected my health.
Anyway, relegation to one side, todays result and recent/ future results have little bearing on the future of Fulham FC. When MAF took over, many laughed at his ambition of being the Man Utd of the South and yes, we didn't get there.. but wasn't the journey fun! With a stated ambition, Fulham sold a vision to journeymen, players with something to prove, found some gems hiding in the reserves of bigger sides and even managed to get a youngster to play in all 4 divisions. Culminating in a European cup final and respect in the football world, we hadn't quite made the Chairman's vision, but certainly we lived in a world where we were competing with Villa, Newcastle etc.. a long way from the days at Exeter, Torquay and Crewe.
Today, I am unsure what the clubs vision is.
Doing what it takes to get back to the Premier League is not a vision. It is a statement. It is an action. It can be over very quickly. It can also fail and we are left with a situation where
Fulham FC need to have a vision.
The Club Management need to tell us what they believe the club will stand in the future. Where does it want to go...
Until I hear something more visionary, there is little point in changing managers, buying players or even expanding the ground.
Derby might beat us today. We might beat them. On Monday morning, what will people walking into Motspur park be working towards? What will motivate them to try even harder and make the tough choices?
Or is it just a toy and a gravy train?
Not for many of us. And I don't think they get it.
hope -- Alboy, Saturday, February 28, 11:09:16am(host86-174-114-163.range86-174.btcentralplus.com/126.96.36.199)
I hope the players make a fight of the game today. Kit Symons looks lost in his interview and this is worrying to say the least. I will be there with the Fulham faithful , hoping , praying for a win. I must be honest watching us play lately has been no fun at all. I hope for all our sakes we get lucky today. Going with hope but not much confidence. Symons seems a decent man but he is totally out of his depth, I hope he gets some luck today. COYW
i will continue to go to FFC games -- p, Saturday, February 28, 11:02:56am(02d9bef4.bb.sky.com/188.8.131.52)
i haven't lost anymore faith in Kit, because I thought he was the wrong appointment in the 1st place, but the wheels came off when Rene/Wilkins/Curbs were sacked, we would have been in a much better place if we'd stayed with this 3.
I love this club more then anything from 1965, through the truly awful times & the good times, but i have no faith in Khan, he's just using us as a money making vehicle, he doesn't care about the football team, he has a fine piece of real estate with expansion permission & the NFL who would dearly love to have a London based team, the only hope is a person who could buy him out, we're the pimple on the arse of a global corporation whose goals don't include soccer as the No 1 franchise, we could seriously end up relegated to ground sharing with Brentford, whilst the Jaguars are promoted for the use of Craven Cottage
Caculator -- Topcat, Saturday, February 28, 10:23:22am(host-2-101-169-80.as13285.net/184.108.40.206)
Anybody got a calculator I can take to the game today?. Fear it's going to be a cricket score another 90 mins of unwatchable drivel
Shahid 'I'll do whatever it takes' Khan -- South London White, Saturday, February 28, 10:20:33am(NoHost/220.127.116.11)
What an opportunist this guy is. Having just read the programme notes he's certainly done whatever it takes to essentially blame the entire current mess on Kit. Kit clearly noted in yesterday's interview that we are lacking in height, so if funds were available why didn't he buy some?
All Khan has done in those notes is to try and steer full responsibility onto Kit (which demonstrates his love of 'accountability' who is probably too grateful for the job to stick up for himself. I'd have more respect for Khan is he came clean, admitted making a huge mess of it all and said we're going go start again with a decent strategy, instead of trying to relieve himself of responsibility.
Next three games & ahead -- DJSA, Saturday, February 28, 10:08:06am(joh066-94052-rtr-adsl-04.altohiway.com/18.104.22.168)
Derby 66 goals Watford 66 goals Bournemouth 67 goals against our 58 goals conceded??
Is it right to think or hope they'll be a suprise result perhaps a win at Watford? somewhere in there as we need to find a win somehow no good thinking after these games things will ease off with sheff w & huddersfield away leeds squeezed in at home looking at those three games i would say leeds at home our best chance of three points but they've improved of late then we are in to april with the all the other strugglers to play bar millwall six pointers galore two derbies as well.
Looking at all the remaining fixtures it's difficult to see the bottom three escaping Millwall espcially have a tough schedule coming up normally one team makes a go of it perhaps Wigan but they have six of the top eight still to play?
There's every possibility we will be 21rst in the table come 5pm tonight!whether the club hits the button on Kit? i think it's unlikely they want more upheaval in what has been a disastrous campaign but i would imagine the question has been raised?
I think we'll be alright slowly crossing the line but there's at least a couple of must win home games at least? i don't expect us to be much higher in league position than we are now though 2 or 3 loan players could change this mind.
To make decisions for next season now is difficult as we know in football it can change quickly but personally speaking i would identify the new manager right now to prepare for next season similar to the Bracewell season when Tigana was appointed and had a bit of time to look at the current squad and what was required ahead.
Kits today's match interview -- Glenn Elliott, Saturday, February 28, 10:07:48am(host-92-29-22-108.as13285.net/22.214.171.124)
Kit looks shot to pieces he urgently needs experienced help in the dugout a KK type figure.His comments you can't give players confidence is worrying to say the least. (Sorry about previous attempt of a post.)
Kits Interview with Sarah Brookes -- Glenn Elliott, Saturday, February 28, 09:59:13am(host-92-29-22-108.as13285.net/126.96.36.199)
Kit looks shot to pieces he experienced help in the dugout urgently a KK type figure.His comments you can't give players is worrying to say the least.
NFR: Moorgate Train Crash -- Pete Hingle, Saturday, February 28, 09:47:54am(mail.bccgroup-uk.com/188.8.131.52)
Today marks the 40th anniversary of the worst ever train crash in the history of London Underground. At 08.46 Northern Line train 272 crashed into a dead end tunnel at Moorgate station.
43 people including the driver lost their lives on that tragic morning. Please take a moment to remember them.
Let's get the bad news out of the way early, Fulham to lose 9-0 at home, Bent to score 4, Symons to say we matched them for 5 minutes then poor defending cost us, loads more complete silence from Khan, Lamping, Mackintosh, Woodcock and Brookes, stadium put on hold for another 4 years, Redknapp to take over at end of season for League 1 promotion, Rosie to budget our books, Residential PP submitted for CC ground, that should do COYWs -- Spartacus, Saturday, February 28, 09:44:52am(184.108.40.206.dyn.plus.net/220.127.116.11)
Really baffled -- The optimist, Saturday, February 28, 09:21:53am(host-92-17-228-175.as13285.net/18.104.22.168)
Given the following stats, isn't Kits statement about conceding height advantage even more baffling. Also, given this view he perceives this as a weakness yet he keeps Burn on the bench. My view therefore is he is a square pegs in round holes type person. He can't see that you adapt you system and style of play for the personnel you have instead of persisting trying to get players to play in a style not suited to them.
Most frustrating quote from khan is: It’s good to have someone as our manager who wants to achieve success in a proper manner. -- Russ, Saturday, February 28, 09:16:17am(250.123.189.80.dyn.plus.net/22.214.171.124)
What the hell does that mean? If you don't spend you won't get the right players and therefore not get promoted..... What does Khan not understand?
Kit Quote "Get Ruthless" starts with you mate taking your hands out your pocket and showing some F'cking passion and direction to your players!!! -- Fulham Russ, Saturday, February 28, 08:52:33am(NoHost/126.96.36.199)
Kit Symons -- hb, Saturday, February 28, 08:43:05am(5adccd38.bb.sky.com/188.8.131.52)
just watched his interview and it looks like Matt Smith is coming back, but for Gods sake mate, why dosent he take his hands out of his pocket for the whole interview, that's his match pose but now interviews as well???
Kit's Presser -- Ken, Saturday, February 28, 08:16:25am(cpc6-nrte25-2-0-cust329.8-4.cable.virginm.net/184.108.40.206)
Just listened to Kit's press conference and to be honest it made me feel quite sorry for him. He I was left with the impression that he is obviously struggling and the way he spoke and his body language seemed to reflect that.
But the most worrying thing was that he gave the impression that he did not know what to do to change or improve things, seemed to be relying on the breaks going our way, obviously important but he didn't leave me with a lot of confidence, all seemed a bit 'hit and miss' sort of philosophy.
Also concerning was how he talked about the search for new players and I was left with the overwhelming feeling that he didn't know what he was looking for, spoke of 'looking through lists of players' he just does not seem to have the experience necessary.
Just hope we can get a few lucky wins over the next few weeks to relieve the pressure a bit, but as for Kit long term I do not have a lot of confidence.
Cow -- Rich h, Saturday, February 28, 03:47:42am(cpc19-mort5-2-0-cust253.19-2.cable.virginm.net/220.127.116.11)
Please remove that twat from above. We had m smith on the bench v Blackpool and g Williams was on fire that night.
Streams for tomorrow.... Our game appears to be on live via a number of different channels tomorrow which means there will almost certainly be a choice of streams at 3pm. For anyone who wants to watch a high quality stream of the game I suggest downloading some free multi -media software called “KODI”.... (google it) Once you have downloaded this start googling for “Kodi add ons” in particular an add on called “P2P streams” which will give you high quality streams from sports channels all around the world, not just footy but all sports, with no annoying pop ups or dodgy adverts. . The best quality “Kodi” source for tomorrow will be the Bulgarian sports channel called “Nova”. To get “ KODI” working with the right “add ons” takes a bit of time but you will not be sorry. It also offers a wide range of sources for films and TV series. -- Lew Stallwater, Saturday, February 28, 12:12:53am(cpc7-mort5-2-0-cust506.19-2.cable.virginm.net/18.104.22.168)
NFR - Caterham F1 Team -- The Analyst, Saturday, February 28, 12:11:30am(85-210-32-23.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com/22.214.171.124)
Everything from them is up for auction. I mean everything.
The cheapest thing at the moment are three hydraulic depressurisation safety bottles, selling for just £5. The most expensive thing is the 2011 car (ready to go), selling at a sadly very cheap £21,000. The 2012 car (missing the engine and gearbox) is just £3,100. Oddly, the 2014 chassis (not the car as such, literally the chassis) is £18,000. F1 steering wheels range from £750 to £1,500. They're charging £500 for the nosecone Kamui Kobayashi wrecked on Felipe Massa in Australia last year!! £300 for a set of F1 tyres.
Not much else worth mentioning, sadly, apart from the odd tyre here and there (singular), fetching £60.
Here's where I'm at -- The Analyst, Friday, February 27, 11:25:45pm(85-210-32-23.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com/126.96.36.199)
For me, there are interesting parallels with René Meulensteen, and, to a lesser extent, Roy Hodgson (only "joined" the club in 2005 (I remember my first game, where my favourite player at the time Steed Malbranque scored in a 2-1 win for us against Bolton) so cannot recall pre-Coleman). The thing about Roy is that he got a lot of flack before the great escape for the same things Kit Symons is doing. "Doesn't use subs", "plays the same XI every week", etc. etc. Indeed, I can't remember Hodgson ever using more than two subs except for injuries. The parallels with Meulensteen, however, are more absolute. A love-in at first with good performances even when we didn't win (Rene - FUL 1 - 2 TOT, FUL 2 - 4 MCI; Kit - FUL 0 - 1 BLB; ROT 3 - 3 FUL), followed by quite a big slump.
Right now, I'm at the stage at where I was with Rene when he said we were at "rock bottom" - after the Sheffield United replay. For me (and a lovely Twitter timehop app helps me recall what I wrote just over a year ago), I started to lose my faith in Meulensteen after that game. I wasn't at the stage with him, nor with Kit, where I'm about to chant "Kit out" or "Symons out", but I'm certainly not going to sing "Kit Symons' black white army" on Saturday. Nor am I about to boo Symons himself. Although I don't like to, I sometimes, very occasionally, boo the team, when they actually look like my college's second XI (which I was managing on Wednesday and they looked like they didn't care one iota).
The thing is, in the next game for Meulensteen, at Old Trafford, he rung out the changes to the squad. I went ballistic when the team sheet was announced. No Parker? No Hangeland? No Mitroglou? No Bent (who I thought was alright)? Ryan Tunnicliffe, a player I didn't even know we'd signed? "René's lost it", I thought. Hey presto, about 60-odd minutes later, it's Manchester United 0 - 1 Fulham. Then we parked the (Muamer) Tank(ovic) on the goal line (pun intended) and it got to half time. My faith in Meulensteen had been restored. He knew what he was doing.
Kit Symons has also pledged to ring out the changes for Saturday. What I expect to see is a 4-2-3-1 wide (although that formation is my preference I have to say): M Bettinelli; T Hoogland, S Hutchinson, D Burn, K Stafylidis; S Parker (c), R Tunnicliffe; S Fofana, B Ruiz, A Kacaniklic; R McCormack. I would seriously be very, very, very surprised if Fernando Amorebieta was back on Saturday. In that case I have no idea who'd go where I've put Hutchinson (somewhat regretfully I have to say). Liam Donnelly is someone I would try if I were Kit, seeing as we're unlikely to get a good result. Although, having said that, we were 2-0 up back in October with our second XI, featuring: G Kiraly; T Hoogland, S Hutchinson, S Arthurworrey, S Kavanagh; P Roberts, E Hyndman, E Zverotic, G Williams; B Ruiz; M Dembélé. 4-4-1-1. And if that team (three of which plus Eisfeld and David who came on as subs) did... OK (ish) then surely a full strength team will actually do well tomorrow?
But no, getting sidetracked. So, basically, this is do or die for my opinion of Mr Symons. A shame, because I saw his appointment (and René Meulensteen's) as long-term when they were announced, something I never got from the appointments of Lawrie Sanchez, Roy Hodgson, Mark Hughes, or Martin Jol.
Khans notes -- WayneKerrins, Friday, February 27, 09:04:51pm(NoHost/188.8.131.52)
If you approach them with any sense of belief then our manager is an idiot and those who say we didn't invest due to FPP have to be stood corrected. And our owner still backs the fool.
If you think the bloke is a mouthy tw.t that is finally running out of spin and starting to sound faintly stupid: 1 in 7 Jan transfers work...... really Shahid? Then theres plenty to be concerned about.
Im in the second camp as most will know but theres nothing good in that splurge of english whichever way you look at it.
Khan -- jimmyhillbillies, Friday, February 27, 08:37:46pm(5ade3926.bb.sky.com/184.108.40.206)
Is Khan deliberately winding down this club for reasons not yet fully known (property/nfl).
Or is this simple mis management on a seldom seen scale.
As has been said previously. Clubs have been relegated from Premiership and then plummeted straight through Championship to League 1/2. But this has been because disastrous financial problems. We have a Billionaire owner and financially have rarely, if ever, been in a better state.
Something is not right here. And I fear in a few years when we look back we will have difficulty in explaining away our inaction.
Re: Khan (NT) -- FulhamMan..This is the 64million Dollar question..Ultimately ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS...Do we get Steve Bruce in and give him a good budget and do we build Riverside Stand? Over to you SHAHID?, Friday, February 27, 08:59:46pm(host31-50-115-102.range31-50.btcentralplus.com/220.127.116.11)
What I can't understand -- The optimist, Friday, February 27, 07:05:49pm(host-92-17-228-175.as13285.net/18.104.22.168)
I can't understand why Kit hasn't tried different systems and has stayed with the same players playing so narrow? Surely, anyone would try something different?
We're conceding a height advantage -- The optimist, Friday, February 27, 07:01:24pm(host-92-17-228-175.as13285.net/22.214.171.124)
RE: This statement, does anyone have the stats on how many goals we concede are headers or assists from headers?
I'm thinking not a lot, we seem to concede more through play along the ground and opposing strikers with good movement.
Khans message to the fans. -- FulhamStu, Friday, February 27, 06:21:56pm(176-227-134-161.ip.skylogicnet.com/126.96.36.199)
These are his program notes from tomorrows program.
He is clearly saying he is supporting Kit and Kit can't find the players we need.
I know the answer to this !!!
Welcome to Craven Cottage and to what’s likely to be the most challenging test we’ll experience at home this year, a date with league-leading Derby County. The Rams have held or been near the top spot inthe Sky Bet Championship table all seasonthanks in large part to their ability to win, often impressively, away from home. We saw that here
at the Cottage in October when Derby fought back from being down 2-0 to win 5-2 in the Capital One Cup. I commend Derby on a spectacular season thus far, but certainly hope to
slow them this afternoon with a much-needed winning effort from Fulham. The loss to Derby in October is memorable in
that we were playing our best football of the season at the time. We’d won five of seven matches prior to the defeat against the Rams, and then posted four wins, two losses and two draws leading up to Christmas. We were performing so well late in 2014, it seemed as though the Capital One Cup result was an anomaly. We slowed a bit thereafter but, even in January, we dropped only two of seven matches and were
squarely in position to compete for a Play-Off place. Also during that time, we stayed alive in the FA Cup thanks to scrappy performances on the road at WolverhamptonWanderers, where we advanced to the next round on penalties, and later at Premier League side Sunderland. We also competed hard in a pair of one-goal defeats and found a way to prevail in two narrow victories. You learn a lot about what you have when matches are in the balance approaching full-time, and we were encouraged by what we saw from our young and developing squad. We were certainly mindful of the January
transfer window and the opportunities - or temptations - it offers. For every successful move in the transfer season there may be half a dozen that fail to produce results, as supporters of Fulham and likely every club in England
understand all too well. Nevertheless, while caution is advised when browsing the transfer market, clubs should be
prepared to pounce if the right player is available at the right time. At Fulham, we were prepared with the appropriate resources and full authority if it made perfect sense.Manager Kit Symons sees our players daily. As a top-flight player not that long ago, Kit knows and feels the game. He understands and appreciates the Fulham way. And Kit knows what we all want, and that’s a side that will make us proud and compete for a return to the Premier League. It’s good to have someone as our manager who wants to achieve success in a proper manner. So, I have to applaud Kit for his discipline and restraint during this particular January transfer window when the easy and likely popular move would have been to spend for the sake of appearing to be active. The truth is, Kit was active.Kit didn’t feel the right options were there. As you all know, Fulham endured some drama over the past 18 months with our managers. We’ve become a more cohesive club, on and off
the pitch, since Kit was promoted to manager in September. There’s a lot of football left thisseason. I’m confident we’ll finish the season safe, sound and strong. But in any event, I pay great respect to Kit for having faith in and standing by the players we’ve had all season to send us upward. What can be better than having a manager who has
unconditional faith in you? The hope here is that our squad honours Kit’s faith and responds appropriately and immediately with today’s encounter against Derby. A positive result against the league leaders in front of the home supporters would do nicely. In the meantime, I want to assure all Fulham fans that Kit and the Club will always have my full commitment and attention. If Kit feels there’s an option to consider during the emergency transfer period, he'll have my total support to act. There will be no uncertainty or lack of communication, as I speak at great length with Kit, Mike Rigg and Alistair Mackintosh every Monday, at a minimum. They’re all aware of my trust and support in each of them. And the same applies for everyone at Motspur Park and Craven Cottage. We have a great Club at Fulham, and we will fight through this difficult stretch successfully, united as one. Of course, no one is more important in this equation than you and all of our Fulham
supporters. In the best and worst of times, it’s comforting to know that the Fulham community is unwavering. We’re deeply appreciative of your love and support for Fulham, and we’ll need it this afternoon against Derby and through the balance of this season. In return, we’ll give you everything and the best that we have. Come On You Whites! Shahid Khan, Chairman.
"Jihadi John for next Fulham manager" thread posted earlier -- Casual Observer, Friday, February 27, 05:56:35pm(NoHost/188.8.131.52)
One of the funniest things I have ever read on this place! If you still have it please post it as it looks like it has been deleted. I wanted to screen shot it and submit it to social media / friends. Please re-post if you can!
? rehearsed -- GLS, Friday, February 27, 04:23:18pm(host-92-0-231-234.as43234.net/184.108.40.206)
Having seen the latest video of Kit Symons being
hardly what one could call incisive.
Still unconvinced by this that he will be here by the end
of the season. Still lacking an aggressive
Was it rehearsed because the questioning seemed very tame.
If i was manager..... -- Steve B, Friday, February 27, 04:23:11pm(host86-169-233-31.range86-169.btcentralplus.com/220.127.116.11)
.....I would see tomorrow as a great chance to change the structure and put out the following team..4-5-1
Bloody QPR -- POPW, Friday, February 27, 01:52:15pm(5ad38f47.bb.sky.com/18.104.22.168)
Think that there luck is about to change (sadly)
Next three home games Arsenal, Spurs and Everton,
Because of QPR v Spurs being postponed this weekend, Arsenal would have played twice whilest QPR have been on a sunshine break to Dubai,
Arsenal look to be in a bit of a mess at the moment, can see QPR getting something,
Next up a rearranged game against Spurs, and yesterday a couple of Spurs players were complaining about being tired, and this is before the game in Italy, can see QPR getting something,
Next up Everton at home , Sunday lunchtime , this comes after Everton's Thursday night game in Kiev !!!
Luck with fixtures plays a big part in football, can see QPR picking up 7 points here , which sadly could see them being very well placed,
We put 6 past them not so long ago, next season we could be two divisions below them ! Makes me sick.
Black and White Geezer: idea for email to Woodcock -- WayneKerrins, Friday, February 27, 01:50:53pm(NoHost/22.214.171.124)
Re your query as what a fan who has a line into Woodcock might enquire.
Id suggest something like
I like most supporters was relieved to hear Mr Khan talk about "doing what it takes" to get the club back into he Prem and the comment "its not always about balancing the books" struck a positive and comforting chord with me and many others.
The subsequent player trading activity has been ostensibly self financing and despite our precarious position our, relative to most other clubs, passivity in the loan window was noteworthy.
There is a school of thought that i subscribe to as does a sizeable minority of our support that the reasons for the inconsistency with Mr Khan's words and actions is the constraints of Financial Fair Play as pertaing to FFC's specific financial position and prognoscis. As Mr Khan was extremely open on his Superbowl interview regarding the Jags' salary level vis a vis the NFL salary cap could I commend something similar regarding what room we have re FFP constraints? Obviously we will all know empirically by the autumn but a similar level of transparency to that enjoyed by the Jags fans would be helpful.
If my own fag packet calculations are indeed correct and there is little or headroom could I ask why the Board felt such a significant invetsment in one player, Ross McCormack, was advisable given the corollary this would have on other player aquistions?
Rigg -- mickey, Friday, February 27, 12:37:08pm(no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com/126.96.36.199)
So hoping this fellow has been keeping a close watch on everything FFC related since his appointment was announced. You would expect from his history he is certainly Not clueless in football matters, and would have noted what has been happening on the pitch and the factors (so many of them ) that have brought us to where we are. I just hope Khan hasn't placed any restrictive remits on him: I still believe that 5-man committee were instructed to come up with someone who wouldn't be banging our needs on the Owner's door ( if not, then they should all be ashamed of themselves for putting forward a 'rookie' in Kit to take charge of a major rebuilding program in what is an extremely competitive league). For me Rigg will be the only voice who can persuade our clueless Owner what is needed. I personally would hope that a new Manager is being at very least 'sounded out' right now. I totally agree with an earlier post this week that pretty well any other Championship- level manager would've got more from this squad .
Hyndman -- alanos, Friday, February 27, 12:01:32pm(host109-154-53-55.range109-154.btcentralplus.com/188.8.131.52)
Does anyone know when he's back?With Hyndman ,Forfana and Lvc in midfield (no Scott)we beat Leeds 1-0.I would like to see this midfield again.
No free kicks -- jimmyhillbillies, Friday, February 27, 11:50:35am(NoHost/184.108.40.206)
I still can't get over that stat from Wolves game. No free kicks conceded. I can't remember that ever happening in any game. Did we tackle at all. Were we saving costs (no need to clean the kit) For a team battling for Championship survival,away from home it's astonishing and disgraceful. Like some U18 practice match. Symons out on that alone.
Opta facts -- Glenn Elliott, Friday, February 27, 11:03:33am(host-78-147-59-211.as13285.net/220.127.116.11)
Not taking our chances defensive mistakes leading to conceding goals.Not the greatest recipe for our future in this division.
Have we had an injury update on Amore & Hoogland? -- Chrissy Colemans Time at the Bar, Friday, February 27, 10:43:10am(83-244-184-222.cust-83.exponential-e.net/18.104.22.168)
Would love it if we out gunned them tomorrow. Our defence not including Betts is shocking. So why not attack them from the off.
David Lloyd of Toofif -- Glenn Elliott, Friday, February 27, 10:42:30am(host-78-147-59-211.as13285.net/22.214.171.124)
Just read his piece on Twitter straight from the heart, he has been there through the thick and thin felt his heartfelt passion.
Parker Must Start -- Fkev, Friday, February 27, 09:42:08am(97e72567.skybroadband.com/126.96.36.199)
Which Fulham will turn up tomorrow? If it's the one that lost at Wolves, then I can't see anything but another heavy defeat, can you? Parker and Ruiz HAVE to start IMO if we want anything out of the game, the former being much more important. Say what you like about SP, but he is such a vital cog in everything we do. Our record and performances this season (and last) without him is woeful. Fofana is 19. LVC is 20. Tunnicliffe is only 22, and I'm still not sure what his best position is, possibly on the bench!!! EXPERIENCE is key and the lack of it is what has cost us so dearly this season. I was never a fan of Parker before we signed him, and I don't exactly love him now. But he is the ONLY holding, ball-winning midfielder we have with anything like 1 full season under his belt. ONE. I really really rate LVC, but he's looked a bit lost when not alongside Scott. Ditto Fofana. It's no use chucking all these kids in and hoping for the best. Come on Kit, if you've learnt anything, you've GOT to start our most experienced player in the most important position on the park.
How do you see it going? The first goal is SO important, as is the crowd. Derby are bringing between 4000 and 5000 fans ffs, just like Millwall did. I think we need to get behind the lads big-time. Any negativity from the stands will be picked up by the youngsters, and we don't exactly need to be giving Derby any leg-ups do we. Very very tough game. Winnable yes, but Fulham being Fulham, we won't make it easy for ourselves. I notice Bent has 5 goals in 6 Derby starts, so you might as well have your mortgage on him to score at anytime at 9/5 to cushion the blow.
Tomorrow -- Robespierre, Friday, February 27, 09:28:47am(188.8.131.52.ioe.ac.uk/184.108.40.206)
Perversely, looking forward to it - we all want to see games at 3pm on a Saturday.
I think we all expect the worst and in all likelihood we'll get it, but maybe, just maybe, we'll turn up and get it right.
Somebody put a post up the other day about the numbers of visiting fans at CC this season and it does seem Fulham away has been identified as the game everybody wants to go to.
All part of the game of course - but it's making things even harder for us. There will be loads of them there tomorrow and they will be loud. The problem is that we never do enough on the pitch to shut away fans up and - to be honest - it's very diffcult to get fully behind the team when levels of performance, shape and direction are as low as they are right now.
Europa Cup, piece of cake -- kef, Friday, February 27, 09:08:17am(cpc6-slam5-2-0-cust302.2-4.cable.virginm.net/220.127.116.11)
Can't even get past the last 32. I wonder who was the last team to do any good in it, ha ha.
I think I'm right in saying that no team in the past decade has dropped straight from Premier to 3rd tier level ... -- HC, Thursday, February 26, 11:51:01pm(054723ac.skybroadband.com/18.104.22.168)
As we are currently in grave danger of doing - even the disastrous Derby and Sunderland sides. Who can seriously say that Khan isn't doing a calamitous job?! The throwing the baby out with the bathwater exercise in the summer was ridiculous with no attempt to even attempt to keep hold of some players who would have stayed like Sidwell & Hangeland. We could have enforced Mitroglou staying if we'd have tried - all of the above have been a cut above anything we've had playing for us this season and excellent for Championship level, but we were too busy trying to cost cut .... sorry no FFP argument cuts the mustard ... Khan at best has been negligent & showing no interest, at worst potentially having sinister underlying intent that involves American football franchises abroad & Motspur Park/Craven Cottage sites. MAF isn't blameless with his lack of investment or interest post Europa league final & I sincerely wish he had sold to someone else who seemed like that gave a fcuk about FFC & its best interests and who understood football and its workings!
Future spending (Big Investment next season giving it a real go) -- Glenn Elliott, Thursday, February 26, 11:08:38pm(host-92-0-147-242.as43234.net/22.214.171.124)
Heard from good source big push for automatic promotion next season (if we stay up)Mike Rigg having full control on all footballing matters.
People forget we lost the first 8 games. Yes we are poor but that' awful start effectively means we are playing 38 game season. That fact,when slating Kit seems to be forgotten. -- Road Runner, Thursday, February 26, 10:05:45pm(97e12b69.skybroadband.com/126.96.36.199)
NFR - Office renting advice -- Bernard & Doris, Thursday, February 26, 09:57:08pm(NoHost/188.8.131.52)
Can anyone advise on what sort of offer one should make on office space. Say if it's up at £45 sq ft, what do you make an offer at? I assume you get laughed at if you go under £40???
I can not make this as my dad works the weekends sigh so impossable for to get there. But I think there going to be close to 5k of derby fans who shall be in netural ends were tourist get just walk up and buy tickets. And appentley a lot of derby fans brought tickets on ticket master it would be awsome to see two stands full of derby fans. I would love to see fulham fans faces drop I have a feeling they dont like us much.
In Aug 2012 the NFL and Jaguars announced the franchise to play one home game in London for four seasons 2013 until 2016. The NFL generated more than $10 billion in 2014 and is projected to generate $25 billion in 2025. The English Premier League TV deal is worth $2.6b per year. Sometime in 2015/16 the NFL will announce how many games can be played abroad to fulfil that growth. Khan knows match day revenue is mere fraction of future earnings from the TV deal. In 2012 he proudly announced his monopoly and in 2013 he purchased real estate in SW6.
Anyone hazard a guess to the next 12 months?
Khan 2012 "I passionately believe the big growth now is going to come from overseas. We've got to go where we can leverage. You've got to fish in ponds where you've got fish in there. We're going to a pond where there are no fishermen."
Kerim Frei (formerly of Tottenham Hotspur according to ITV4!) has just come on for the 2nd half of extra time -- Jonathan Baines, Thursday, February 26, 08:17:23pm(cpc13-basl9-2-0-cust23.20-1.cable.virginm.net/184.108.40.206)
When did he play for them!!!
An interesting contribution from NJ Glen earlier today which got buried -- Spigs, Thursday, February 26, 08:03:52pm(bcdc86ae.skybroadband.com/220.127.116.11)
In trying to build up a broader business picture of our absent owner, his appointments and his attitude to his sporting investments, etc. NJ Glen said the following earlier today:
"I am not sure if its valid drawing any correlation between his two franchises but he management of the Jags took another worrying turn. he employed the former GM of the NY Jets as a consultant. This guy was fired after two years at the Jets and was universally considered a failure. As GM his responsibility was the same as Macintosh's yet all he really achieved was cutting salaries and costs. Now, that might be meaningless in the context of Fulham but it doesn't fill me with confidence. (NT) -- NJ Glen"
Thanks NJ. I have just got up to speed on this. NJ Glen is referring to the appointment of John Idzik.
I found the following in the Wall Street Journal on 25th February 2015.
"On Wednesday, the recently fired general manager of the Jets was hired by the Jacksonville Jaguars to be a consultant focusing on salary-cap issues, according to a person familiar with the deal.
The Jets gave Idzik his first general-manager job in 2013, hiring him away from a front-office position with the Seattle Seahawks. The Jets went 8-8 in his first season, then slipped to 4-12 in 2014. Fans became increasingly upset with Idzik’s draft choices and frugal spending on free agents, with some even buying roadside billboards and a flying advertisement calling for his ouster. They got their wish when Jets owner Woody Johnson fired Idzik and head coach Rex Ryan in December.
Known as a salary-cap specialist, Idzik did leave his successor, new Jets general manager Mike Maccagnan, with about $50 million in available salary-cap space".
Of particular note was the amount left within the salary cap and reference to frugal spending. Does frugal spending sound familiar!
HONESTY REQUIRED ? -- GLS, Thursday, February 26, 07:52:57pm(host-78-147-49-199.as13285.net/18.104.22.168)
With the current situation at the club, why has there been
a lack of information from the supposed representatives of
Shahid Khan in the UK to the fans.
The longer this goes on the more vociferous the comments
will be as to the running of the club.
Why has Mr Khan remained silent. Any speculation
as to where the club is going would be appreciated
by fans and would surely stop the rubbish suppositions
made by some contributors.
I would have thought by now, that if one cannot get your
team either to play to your instructions or you have lost
the support of players, fans, and employer, the manager
would tender his resignation even knowing that it
probably would not be accepted.
I am sure some managers/coaches have a conscience and
not in it just for the money.
Is there some ulterior motive why the Club has remained
silent on all topics.
Which one player was never replaced? -- FYC, Thursday, February 26, 07:09:38pm(054191e1.skybroadband.com/22.214.171.124)
If you cast your mind back to the Premier League years and plot Fulham's gradual downfall, can it be pinned on the irreplaceability of one player? I give you Danny Murphy...
Guess the ST Price -- South London White, Thursday, February 26, 05:51:27pm(126.96.36.199.threembb.co.uk/188.8.131.52)
How much do you reckon they will be this year? They're obvioisly waiting before we win a game before giving us the news, could they possibly put the price up given the utter shite we've had to endure this season?
Midfield general -- Alboy, Thursday, February 26, 05:48:44pm(host86-174-114-163.range86-174.btcentralplus.com/184.108.40.206)
As bad as we have been sometimes we have always had a midfield general. A passer a playmaker , John Collins, Lee Clarke, Bullard , Dembele and Danny Murphy. This is an area we have lacked and Symons should have tried to address. We have enough workers holding midfielders but a failure to replace quality in midfield has cost us dearly.
crap owner quite fan watch -- fulhamoldfart, Thursday, February 26, 05:30:26pm(host86-169-104-100.range86-169.btcentralplus.com/220.127.116.11)
I think its plain to see Fulham Fc are a club in decline ? We are not the first and sure wont be last to drop two divisions..The Club is a shambles from top to bottom....
As soon as Khan turned up talking about "sustainability" I thought hello weve got one here ....Most billionares come in all guns blazing saying were going to win this and that and throwing millions at their new toy NOT our billionaire....the fact that you need to spend spend spend in the football world just to keep up seems to have passed him by completely.....Which begs the question WHY buy a football team if your not going to shove money at it ? Does the premiership miss us ? Not a jot Will we ever See the Premiership again with this clown ? No
Time for action me thinks Fulham have some of the most placid easy going fans around but now is the time to start asking questions ? Where are our supporters groups ? We need some answers to what the hell is going on AS WE SLIP INTO LEAGUE ONE WITHOUT A WIMPER...
NFR: Company Liability Insurance -- Robin the rich, Thursday, February 26, 04:23:03pm(host86-139-26-51.range86-139.btcentralplus.com/18.104.22.168)
Does anyone know if it is legal requirement for companies to have liability insurance?
A friend of mine has had an accident at work broke is ankle - the injury was
caused by a faulty tool. My mate had raised this as a problem before with them.
Only problem is the firm is owned by his uncle and he's reluctant to make a fuss. as they're saying their not covered. OK with that aspect I suppose, but are they operating legally.
Squad list and breakdown, -- andy, Thursday, February 26, 04:18:41pm(cpc11-slam5-2-0-cust507.2-4.cable.virginm.net/22.214.171.124)
earlier in the season someone posted a breakdown of our squad, it would make interesting reading now, when we are all blaming kit for our problems.
Why did we need Jazz Richards -- FulhamStu, Thursday, February 26, 04:03:01pm(176-227-134-161.ip.skylogicnet.com/126.96.36.199)
We have a centre forward on loan that our manager clearly does not rate. We have 2 other strikers who can't score goals (Rod and Woodrow) and one who is trying to do too much (McCormack). So could really do with another option up front. We have no central defensive Midfield players on the books (Parker is not a defensive MF player, he is a box to box player who will not sit and provide cover). I don't know what Tunnicliffe is but I don't think its holding midfield ? So if I were in charge I would say in order of priority we need an Experienced Holding Midfield Player and a Striker.
Rather than another right back (We have Grimmer and Hoogland), I would have said a right Midfield player would have been more necessary, someone like Jarvis. That would at least give us an ability to provide width.
It must be Kit who says what he wants/needs and I see little or no urgency to fill weak areas. Jazz Richards at right back is just not a priority position to fill right now when we have far more need elsewhere.
Season Ticket -- RP (I want our Fulham back), Thursday, February 26, 03:29:21pm(NoHost/188.8.131.52)
I will not be renewing my ticket or my sons unless they (the team) show some balls by keeping us up now and the club form a plan with adequate spending and proper investment in the summer & show their intent to get us back to the promised land.
Otherwise Mr Khan, sell us or give the shares to the season ticket holders!
Saturday's game against Derby -- Jimmy Hill's Mum, Thursday, February 26, 02:44:13pm(b0fe203a.bb.sky.com/184.108.40.206)
Let's put aside our discontentment with the way the club is being run for the time being and concentrate on Saturday's match with Derby. The priority now is to support the team in getting enough points to stay up this year, we can show our anger in the close season.
We have a young side that needs to feel the supporters are behind them when they go out onto the pitch. Let's try to produce an atmosphere on Saturday which shows we care about the team, let's face it this is a very vital game. Although we had a great side when we came up through the leagues there were games which were won because of the great support shown by the fans. Let's create that again on Saturday.
Let the singing commence... -- Steve B, Thursday, February 26, 02:28:32pm(host86-169-233-31.range86-169.btcentralplus.com/220.127.116.11)
you don't give shit...you don't give a shit.....our club is a shambles....and you don't give a shit
You don't give a shit
Your don't give a shit
Our club is a shambles
and you don't give a shit
Now, before I get shot down for saying this (football isnt a game played on paper etc), our squad, on paper if far in advance of many teams that are beating us with consummate ease.
This leads me to think, and has done for approximately 3 years, that we are in dire, dire need of an accomplished, knowledgeable and top level coach. Perhaps more so than an actual manager. Easier to recruit than a good manager, more impact. Hopefully the club are trying to address this right away.
Why did Khan buy our club? -- >, Thursday, February 26, 09:57:49am(host86-159-25-174.range86-159.btcentralplus.com/18.104.22.168)
When MAF bought FFC for 6.25 million in 1997 it was thought that he bought the development potential rather than the club. 18 years have passed, and during that time Bishops Park has been made a conservation area, add to that the fact that parts of CC enjoy listed status and it would suggest that, as far as residential development is concerned that particular ship has sailed, so if Khan did not buy the ground for that purpose what are his motives.
If it was to own a football club there are others to choose from. Aston Villa has a well-appointed stadium and an owner desperate to sell. Everton are negotiating a ground move. Bill Kenwright the owner has been looking to sell for a few years, and then there is Leeds united. All of those clubs have a substantially larger fan base than Fulham, and would cost a lot less than the alleged 200 million that Khan paid for Fulham.
So, what are his plans? If it is to make Fulham a relevant force in the premiership then he has failed spectacularly. Perhaps he sees the ground as a UK base for his Jaguars franchise, after all it would not take much to re-configure the playing surface to suit NFL needs – but would it be financially justifiable?.
Khan appears to be confused and it is about time that he adopted a more hands on approach, otherwise the future of our club looks very bleak indeed.