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Elisa, but Blair is written way too shallow a character to understand deeper emotions like "remorse and guilt" - she never got the TnM bond before, and never will so it's pointless for Todd to try & explain yet again concepts she finds "completely foreign to her nature." Blair, like Max, is painted amoral and w/out a lick of conscience, NEITHER are showing any signs of remorse right? Again, B&M are really the ones ALIKE, just look at their recent reactions to getting caught for their crimes. (NT) -- Pilar, 15:15:10 03/17/01 Sat
ITA Pilar and Elisa. And Elisa ... sigh ... what a depressing thought - but I think you're right. The pattern of the B blaming Todd for HER crap is classic BnT which aggravates me. I blame the writers for showing this and not "dealing with it," for making Todd blind to it. People keep talking about the BnT "journey" to each other - but I don't see any such thing. I only see two squares trying to fit into the It's all about conclusion ... (NT) -- Cabbie Esq, 17:00:06 03/17/01 Sat
oops ... I see two squares trying to force themselves into a "circle" called "love" and "family". I don't see anything but the conclusion of what SHOULD be some kind of journey THROUGH something - but, nope. It's "we belong together" ... "he LOVES me" ... "she WANTS me" ... "we want each other." There is nothing explaining how they got from contempt ("sexually repressed psychopath" and "pathetic clingy ex-wife") to ... THIS. (NT) -- Cabbie Esq, 17:09:09 03/17/01 Sat
..(cont.) There is nothing explaining why Todd is willing to accept someone who really doesn't care about HIM - who uses him - who never even asks him about HIM. I haven't heard her ONCE ask, "Where've you been, Todd, all this time? What's going on with YOU? Why are you acting SO damn out of character? (VBG)" But really - even the night of the Peculiar, did Blair ask Todd, "Was it good for you too?" I don't remember - and I don't think she did. Basically, she could care less. (NT) -- Cabbie Esq, 17:13:19 03/17/01 Sat
Don't be sorry, Elisa, for calling a spade a spade, after all Malone set up Blair as “bad” one in original T&B relationship to "victimize" Todd as means to further redeem him. Malone wrote Blair repeatedly taking advantage of a VERY vulnerable Todd, who “sucked” up HER abuse until he snapped & retaliated. (NT) -- Pilar, 09:55:32 03/18/01 Sun
ITA, it’s a vicious cycle but it goes from Max to Blair to Todd. Max emotionally abuses Blair, leaves her self-esteem in tatters but Max refuses in turn to be Blair’s victim, no matter how hard she tries to HURT him back, including attempted murder, she can’t seem to DAMAGE Max so she seeks out someone she CAN hurt, Todd. (NT) -- Pilar, 10:07:10 03/18/01 Sun
In EACH BnT story, Todd’s self-esteem takes a major beating, damaging him further but why is that? Because a person typically becomes an abuser out of a desperate NEED to boost their own poor self-esteem by tearing down another’s! Blair derides Todd, places ALL blame for their failed relationships on him/his problems b/c she can’t look in the mirror & admit her own litany of faults… that would be admitting her image of herself is probably as bad as Todd’s of himself. (NT) -- Pilar, 10:20:02 03/18/01 Sun
Elisa, bringing thread out since it was getting hard to read... yes, repeatedly Blair attempts & fails to strike back at Max. He's like Teflon & it drives her nuts, literally. Max's self-esteem just never submits to her abuse like Todd's does. You know Blair always needed for Todd to win "most pathetic contest" to boost her own dreadfully low self-esteem. She's in deep denial of her problems & what a bad person she truly has become. At least, Todd is capable of acknowledging he's very damaged. (NT) -- Pilar, 17:17:50 03/18/01 Sun
Guilt appears to be a foreign concept to BOTH B&M now. Their wargames provide "thrills" vs deep remorse/anguish. Max has barely shown a lick of feeling for hurting Renee so deeply... and Blair doesn't bat an eyelash at almost murdering the husband she claimed to love. All is fair in love & war was invented for B&M's twisted characters. I don't know what happened to Max I enjoyed w/Luna, his soul is running on empty as is Blair's, really ugly, unlikeable creatures they've become. (NT) -- Pilar, 17:28:47 03/18/01 Sun
Sad part is Todd is being lumped w/two terrible shallow excuses for characters rather than given a story worthy of his own deeper/damaged psyche. He's the juicy meat, sandwiched between two shallow slices of rotten bread that wrecks entire taste if you get my drift. The meat gets tainted by rotten outside. (NT) -- Pilar, 17:33:23 03/18/01 Sun