If St. Joes beats URI at URI on ESPN the other day they finish 9-1 to end the season. That would have made them the last team out. As for the Hawks OOC.. I never thought in the begining of the season that Drexel, Bucknell, Penn, ODU and Villanova were killers but if they win two of those games they would have made it... The Iowa/IU problem, to me, was that they couldn't have justified taking one over the other and therefore neither should have made it. You can't have it both ways - tough OOC got penalized here. -- Fordham Rams Basketball Message Board

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Date Posted: Sun March 13, 2005 22:25:28
Author: J92
Subject: If St. Joes beats URI at URI on ESPN the other day they finish 9-1 to end the season. That would have made them the last team out. As for the Hawks OOC.. I never thought in the begining of the season that Drexel, Bucknell, Penn, ODU and Villanova were killers but if they win two of those games they would have made it... The Iowa/IU problem, to me, was that they couldn't have justified taking one over the other and therefore neither should have made it. You can't have it both ways - tough OOC got penalized here.
In reply to: J�Dete93 's message, "I think the Iowa over Indiana boils down to the entire season. Iowa ended 21-11 (OOC SOS/RPI of 67/11), Indiana ended the season 15-13 (OOC SOS/RPI of 11/116). This proves once again that it does not pay to overschedule in the OOC, plain and simple. St. Joe's with an OOC SOS/RPI of 7/129 is another example of being hurt by not winning out of conference with too tough a schedule. 14-2 in conference is going to get you nowhere if you go 3-8 OOC." on Sun March 13, 2005 21:48:40

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You are absolutely right J92, you cannot have it both ways, but somehow the NCAA Selection Committee has it both ways every year. For one team they will argue the conference record and for the next they will argue the out of conference. In my opinion they do not look at SOS all that much, at least not in the OOC so it and as long as teams do not load up solely on cupcakes, it pays to schedule winnable games. I think what hurt St. Joe's the most was that it was hard to argue that they had a rough start when the loss to Penn and drubbing by Nova (a good team) were during the conference schedule and they also lost to URI late, albeit right after the Temple goon-gate situation. (NT) -- J�Dete93, Sun March 13, 2005 22:37:45
- Not to mention that Carroll was injured for the majority of the early season. That was the biggest factor in their dismal OOC record. Did you happen tosee that only SJU and Temple got invites to the NIT - bye bye rat face. (NT) -- J92, Sun March 13, 2005 22:42:33

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