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Subject: NIGHT 1 PRELIMINARIES-MY FIRST THOUGHTS


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Date Posted: 00:49:23 12/16/19 Mon
 HELLO from Connecticut!

Well, night 1 is over, and congratulations to the very talented Victoria Hill. Also, congratulations to Jade Glab and Mallory Rivard for their impressive interviews. I’m not sure where to begin, so I will answer the question that most everyone is wanting to know: what is the vibe? The vibe is bad. Just plain bad. Last year in AC, there was tension and uncertainty of whether the pageant would remain there. Things had just started to deteriorate, and there was a lot of tension as to whether or not certain state boards would get the axe, there were many people against the changes, etc. This year, the vibe is just, I hate to say this, dead, amateur, and disorganized. Now, to be fair, this is my first time out of Atlantic City. I was not to Las Vegas. But, at least you had the preliminaries there in a nice theater. And also to be fair, the Mohegan Sun is very nice. It is the first time I was there, and it is very nice. But the room itself-it’s almost like a generic room where you would meet for a business convention. I was waiting for someone to come out and sell Amway (ha!) or come up with their PowerPoint presentation. That’s the kind of room that it is. It is very nice, but it isn’t even a theater. In AC, you could put banners over the balconies, large signs, etc. You can hold up a sign if you care to carry it, and there are some people with your standard fare cheering, etc. But the whole preliminary vibe is gone. It is very sparsely attended, including former Miss Americas. The usual state delegations, you can kind of tell who is there for who, who is family, etc. But there are not large crowds at all, for anyone. And it’s not enjoyable. It’s tense, there’s a sense of quietness about everyone. I don’t think anyone is truly “excited”. I am not excited, I am more deflated after seeing what has become of our beloved PAGEANT. It’s random. The good news is that if you don’t want or have loads of money for an evening gown, congratulations! You don’t have to have one. Some of the contestants opted not to even wear an evening gown. Even the MAOT pageant has this. And what I feared would come true is exactly what happened-everyone pretty much sounded the same. If you heard the online videos, it wasn’t that much different from what you heard this evening. I want to be Miss America because I want to make a difference/I overcame difficulty/I now have a voice. Etc. I don’t know what else to say. For once, I am at a loss for words, and any of you who read this board know that is usually not a problem for me 😉 There seems to be much more of a focus on a “job”. It’s not even fun. There’s NO glamour whatsoever. And even so, when I say disorganized, it was. Despite the same line being told over again and again and again and again, it just seems like there is no clear idea of what the “job” is about. The contestants really don’t have the chance to sell themselves but in very short, canned answers. You are making 51 unique individuals try and prove that they are “the best for the job” when it’s really not clear what the job really is. These 51 individuals have different educational backgrounds, social interests, and personal backgrounds. If you “interview” for a “job”, you are usually someone in this day and age with an education and background in a specific area. It doesn’t even make any sense what they are trying to do.

Okay, I will turn to the better part of the night. The talent was GOOD. If we had 3 nights of competition and you had some of tonight’s contestants going in different groups, there would be some amazing winners. I could have seen this going 6 different ways. The best of the night was AL, MO, CA, GA, HI and UT. I wouldn’t have been surprised at any of them. Also good were Kansas, Tennessee, Vermont, and North Carolina. I hate to say this, but what people were saying about South Carolina is true. She just doesn’t have good talent. Although, based on what we see tomorrow night, I just want to remind everyone that last year MA did not have a good talent and was in the top 5.

Good segue to what happened next. Truthfully, I did not have NJ as my winner tonight. But then again, this was by far THE WORST of the competition. Between the canned speeches, it was hard to figure out who really stood out. I didn’t have her standing out. And I am just being honest-I don’t know which part of tonight’s canned answers were judged, if they both were, just one, etc. I didn’t get the program book yet (not even sure I am going to, really). I thought some of the better ones of the night were Virginia, Mississippi was generic and pageanty but decent, Texas did speak confidently, and Minnesota sounded confident. Florida is VERY pageanty. Don’t get me wrong-I am very happy for Jade. She is a nice young woman and I thought the minute she was crowned is that she had national potential. She is confident without being over the top. And I would say the same thing with Michigan. The thing is-the judges interviewed 26 contestants and Michigan came out the winner. And who the hell can say whether or not anyone who wins is going to be in the top 15? Last year, VA did not make it but the others did. I would say that we have to take Michigan as a serious contender. But with only 3 judges, how are they REALLY going to determine who is scoring consistently and not? You have three opinions. I have seen judging disasters with a full panel. This I just don’t know what to say about any of it because there’s just repeating lines over and over again for 15 or 20 seconds and talent. And with only three judges, who knows what we will get? I was surprised at the results of the speaking portions, although moreso with onstage than with private interviews. I did think that Mallory did a good enough job in her personal video. I thought that she personalized her story, spoke with a natural confidence. Did I think she would be first in this group? Likely not, but it’s a whole new competition when it’s a whole new competition.

That’s sort of my short synopsis for now. I am tired, confused, and as I said, a bit deflated. I am going to post a full talent review sometime by mid-afternoon and then try and decipher what happened with the onstage questions parts of things. But I will give you the information as best as I can. Also, if you have any contestants in particular who you are cheering for and would like me to pay attention to them, please list them and I will pay close attention to them tomorrow and let you know how their competition was.

Now I am off to get a good night’s rest. Long day, folks!
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This is a very interesting read. Thank you !
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Date Posted: 19:12:17 12/16/19 Mon
>HELLO from Connecticut!
>
>Well, night 1 is over, and congratulations to the very
>talented Victoria Hill. Also, congratulations to Jade
>Glab and Mallory Rivard for their impressive
>interviews. I’m not sure where to begin, so I will
>answer the question that most everyone is wanting to
>know: what is the vibe? The vibe is bad. Just plain
>bad. Last year in AC, there was tension and
>uncertainty of whether the pageant would remain there.
> Things had just started to deteriorate, and there was
>a lot of tension as to whether or not certain state
>boards would get the axe, there were many people
>against the changes, etc. This year, the vibe is
>just, I hate to say this, dead, amateur, and
>disorganized. Now, to be fair, this is my first time
>out of Atlantic City. I was not to Las Vegas. But,
>at least you had the preliminaries there in a nice
>theater. And also to be fair, the Mohegan Sun is very
>nice. It is the first time I was there, and it is
>very nice. But the room itself-it’s almost like a
>generic room where you would meet for a business
>convention. I was waiting for someone to come out and
>sell Amway (ha!) or come up with their PowerPoint
>presentation. That’s the kind of room that it is.
>It is very nice, but it isn’t even a theater. In
>AC, you could put banners over the balconies, large
>signs, etc. You can hold up a sign if you care to
>carry it, and there are some people with your standard
>fare cheering, etc. But the whole preliminary vibe is
>gone. It is very sparsely attended, including former
>Miss Americas. The usual state delegations, you can
>kind of tell who is there for who, who is family, etc.
> But there are not large crowds at all, for anyone.
>And it’s not enjoyable. It’s tense, there’s a
>sense of quietness about everyone. I don’t think
>anyone is truly “excited”. I am not excited, I am
>more deflated after seeing what has become of our
>beloved PAGEANT. It’s random. The good news is
>that if you don’t want or have loads of money for an
>evening gown, congratulations! You don’t have to
>have one. Some of the contestants opted not to even
>wear an evening gown. Even the MAOT pageant has this.
> And what I feared would come true is exactly what
>happened-everyone pretty much sounded the same. If
>you heard the online videos, it wasn’t that much
>different from what you heard this evening. I want to
>be Miss America because I want to make a difference/I
>overcame difficulty/I now have a voice. Etc. I
>don’t know what else to say. For once, I am at a
>loss for words, and any of you who read this board
>know that is usually not a problem for me 😉 There
>seems to be much more of a focus on a “job”.
>It’s not even fun. There’s NO glamour whatsoever.
> And even so, when I say disorganized, it was.
>Despite the same line being told over again and again
>and again and again, it just seems like there is no
>clear idea of what the “job” is about. The
>contestants really don’t have the chance to sell
>themselves but in very short, canned answers. You are
>making 51 unique individuals try and prove that they
>are “the best for the job” when it’s really not
>clear what the job really is. These 51 individuals
>have different educational backgrounds, social
>interests, and personal backgrounds. If you
>“interview” for a “job”, you are usually
>someone in this day and age with an education and
>background in a specific area. It doesn’t even make
>any sense what they are trying to do.
>
>Okay, I will turn to the better part of the night.
>The talent was GOOD. If we had 3 nights of
>competition and you had some of tonight’s
>contestants going in different groups, there would be
>some amazing winners. I could have seen this going 6
>different ways. The best of the night was AL, MO, CA,
>GA, HI and UT. I wouldn’t have been surprised at
>any of them. Also good were Kansas, Tennessee,
>Vermont, and North Carolina. I hate to say this, but
>what people were saying about South Carolina is true.
>She just doesn’t have good talent. Although, based
>on what we see tomorrow night, I just want to remind
>everyone that last year MA did not have a good talent
>and was in the top 5.
>
>Good segue to what happened next. Truthfully, I did
>not have NJ as my winner tonight. But then again,
>this was by far THE WORST of the competition. Between
>the canned speeches, it was hard to figure out who
>really stood out. I didn’t have her standing out.
>And I am just being honest-I don’t know which part
>of tonight’s canned answers were judged, if they
>both were, just one, etc. I didn’t get the program
>book yet (not even sure I am going to, really). I
>thought some of the better ones of the night were
>Virginia, Mississippi was generic and pageanty but
>decent, Texas did speak confidently, and Minnesota
>sounded confident. Florida is VERY pageanty. Don’t
>get me wrong-I am very happy for Jade. She is a nice
>young woman and I thought the minute she was crowned
>is that she had national potential. She is confident
>without being over the top. And I would say the same
>thing with Michigan. The thing is-the judges
>interviewed 26 contestants and Michigan came out the
>winner. And who the hell can say whether or not
>anyone who wins is going to be in the top 15? Last
>year, VA did not make it but the others did. I would
>say that we have to take Michigan as a serious
>contender. But with only 3 judges, how are they
>REALLY going to determine who is scoring consistently
>and not? You have three opinions. I have seen
>judging disasters with a full panel. This I just
>don’t know what to say about any of it because
>there’s just repeating lines over and over again for
>15 or 20 seconds and talent. And with only three
>judges, who knows what we will get? I was surprised
>at the results of the speaking portions, although
>moreso with onstage than with private interviews. I
>did think that Mallory did a good enough job in her
>personal video. I thought that she personalized her
>story, spoke with a natural confidence. Did I think
>she would be first in this group? Likely not, but
>it’s a whole new competition when it’s a whole new
>competition.
>
>That’s sort of my short synopsis for now. I am
>tired, confused, and as I said, a bit deflated. I am
>going to post a full talent review sometime by
>mid-afternoon and then try and decipher what happened
>with the onstage questions parts of things. But I will
>give you the information as best as I can. Also, if
>you have any contestants in particular who you are
>cheering for and would like me to pay attention to
>them, please list them and I will pay close attention
>to them tomorrow and let you know how their
>competition was.
>
>Now I am off to get a good night’s rest. Long day,
>folks!
[> Subject: Thank you so much for this excellent report and for creating this site. I will check back frequently to hear your thoughts. You hit it on the head about the problem with this being cast as a JOB interview.


Author:
No name
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Date Posted: 20:41:55 12/16/19 Mon
>HELLO from Connecticut!
>
>Well, night 1 is over, and congratulations to the very
>talented Victoria Hill. Also, congratulations to Jade
>Glab and Mallory Rivard for their impressive
>interviews. I’m not sure where to begin, so I will
>answer the question that most everyone is wanting to
>know: what is the vibe? The vibe is bad. Just plain
>bad. Last year in AC, there was tension and
>uncertainty of whether the pageant would remain there.
> Things had just started to deteriorate, and there was
>a lot of tension as to whether or not certain state
>boards would get the axe, there were many people
>against the changes, etc. This year, the vibe is
>just, I hate to say this, dead, amateur, and
>disorganized. Now, to be fair, this is my first time
>out of Atlantic City. I was not to Las Vegas. But,
>at least you had the preliminaries there in a nice
>theater. And also to be fair, the Mohegan Sun is very
>nice. It is the first time I was there, and it is
>very nice. But the room itself-it’s almost like a
>generic room where you would meet for a business
>convention. I was waiting for someone to come out and
>sell Amway (ha!) or come up with their PowerPoint
>presentation. That’s the kind of room that it is.
>It is very nice, but it isn’t even a theater. In
>AC, you could put banners over the balconies, large
>signs, etc. You can hold up a sign if you care to
>carry it, and there are some people with your standard
>fare cheering, etc. But the whole preliminary vibe is
>gone. It is very sparsely attended, including former
>Miss Americas. The usual state delegations, you can
>kind of tell who is there for who, who is family, etc.
> But there are not large crowds at all, for anyone.
>And it’s not enjoyable. It’s tense, there’s a
>sense of quietness about everyone. I don’t think
>anyone is truly “excited”. I am not excited, I am
>more deflated after seeing what has become of our
>beloved PAGEANT. It’s random. The good news is
>that if you don’t want or have loads of money for an
>evening gown, congratulations! You don’t have to
>have one. Some of the contestants opted not to even
>wear an evening gown. Even the MAOT pageant has this.
> And what I feared would come true is exactly what
>happened-everyone pretty much sounded the same. If
>you heard the online videos, it wasn’t that much
>different from what you heard this evening. I want to
>be Miss America because I want to make a difference/I
>overcame difficulty/I now have a voice. Etc. I
>don’t know what else to say. For once, I am at a
>loss for words, and any of you who read this board
>know that is usually not a problem for me 😉 There
>seems to be much more of a focus on a “job”.
>It’s not even fun. There’s NO glamour whatsoever.
> And even so, when I say disorganized, it was.
>Despite the same line being told over again and again
>and again and again, it just seems like there is no
>clear idea of what the “job” is about. The
>contestants really don’t have the chance to sell
>themselves but in very short, canned answers. You are
>making 51 unique individuals try and prove that they
>are “the best for the job” when it’s really not
>clear what the job really is. These 51 individuals
>have different educational backgrounds, social
>interests, and personal backgrounds. If you
>“interview” for a “job”, you are usually
>someone in this day and age with an education and
>background in a specific area. It doesn’t even make
>any sense what they are trying to do.
>
>Okay, I will turn to the better part of the night.
>The talent was GOOD. If we had 3 nights of
>competition and you had some of tonight’s
>contestants going in different groups, there would be
>some amazing winners. I could have seen this going 6
>different ways. The best of the night was AL, MO, CA,
>GA, HI and UT. I wouldn’t have been surprised at
>any of them. Also good were Kansas, Tennessee,
>Vermont, and North Carolina. I hate to say this, but
>what people were saying about South Carolina is true.
>She just doesn’t have good talent. Although, based
>on what we see tomorrow night, I just want to remind
>everyone that last year MA did not have a good talent
>and was in the top 5.
>
>Good segue to what happened next. Truthfully, I did
>not have NJ as my winner tonight. But then again,
>this was by far THE WORST of the competition. Between
>the canned speeches, it was hard to figure out who
>really stood out. I didn’t have her standing out.
>And I am just being honest-I don’t know which part
>of tonight’s canned answers were judged, if they
>both were, just one, etc. I didn’t get the program
>book yet (not even sure I am going to, really). I
>thought some of the better ones of the night were
>Virginia, Mississippi was generic and pageanty but
>decent, Texas did speak confidently, and Minnesota
>sounded confident. Florida is VERY pageanty. Don’t
>get me wrong-I am very happy for Jade. She is a nice
>young woman and I thought the minute she was crowned
>is that she had national potential. She is confident
>without being over the top. And I would say the same
>thing with Michigan. The thing is-the judges
>interviewed 26 contestants and Michigan came out the
>winner. And who the hell can say whether or not
>anyone who wins is going to be in the top 15? Last
>year, VA did not make it but the others did. I would
>say that we have to take Michigan as a serious
>contender. But with only 3 judges, how are they
>REALLY going to determine who is scoring consistently
>and not? You have three opinions. I have seen
>judging disasters with a full panel. This I just
>don’t know what to say about any of it because
>there’s just repeating lines over and over again for
>15 or 20 seconds and talent. And with only three
>judges, who knows what we will get? I was surprised
>at the results of the speaking portions, although
>moreso with onstage than with private interviews. I
>did think that Mallory did a good enough job in her
>personal video. I thought that she personalized her
>story, spoke with a natural confidence. Did I think
>she would be first in this group? Likely not, but
>it’s a whole new competition when it’s a whole new
>competition.
>
>That’s sort of my short synopsis for now. I am
>tired, confused, and as I said, a bit deflated. I am
>going to post a full talent review sometime by
>mid-afternoon and then try and decipher what happened
>with the onstage questions parts of things. But I will
>give you the information as best as I can. Also, if
>you have any contestants in particular who you are
>cheering for and would like me to pay attention to
>them, please list them and I will pay close attention
>to them tomorrow and let you know how their
>competition was.
>
>Now I am off to get a good night’s rest. Long day,
>folks!
[> Subject: Re: NIGHT 1 PRELIMINARIES-MY FIRST THOUGHTS


Author:
Thanks ! I know that your insightful report on Night Two of prelims won't come till later....but please report the names of the winners as soon as you can.
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Date Posted: 21:17:53 12/16/19 Mon
>HELLO from Connecticut!
>
>Well, night 1 is over, and congratulations to the very
>talented Victoria Hill. Also, congratulations to Jade
>Glab and Mallory Rivard for their impressive
>interviews. I’m not sure where to begin, so I will
>answer the question that most everyone is wanting to
>know: what is the vibe? The vibe is bad. Just plain
>bad. Last year in AC, there was tension and
>uncertainty of whether the pageant would remain there.
> Things had just started to deteriorate, and there was
>a lot of tension as to whether or not certain state
>boards would get the axe, there were many people
>against the changes, etc. This year, the vibe is
>just, I hate to say this, dead, amateur, and
>disorganized. Now, to be fair, this is my first time
>out of Atlantic City. I was not to Las Vegas. But,
>at least you had the preliminaries there in a nice
>theater. And also to be fair, the Mohegan Sun is very
>nice. It is the first time I was there, and it is
>very nice. But the room itself-it’s almost like a
>generic room where you would meet for a business
>convention. I was waiting for someone to come out and
>sell Amway (ha!) or come up with their PowerPoint
>presentation. That’s the kind of room that it is.
>It is very nice, but it isn’t even a theater. In
>AC, you could put banners over the balconies, large
>signs, etc. You can hold up a sign if you care to
>carry it, and there are some people with your standard
>fare cheering, etc. But the whole preliminary vibe is
>gone. It is very sparsely attended, including former
>Miss Americas. The usual state delegations, you can
>kind of tell who is there for who, who is family, etc.
> But there are not large crowds at all, for anyone.
>And it’s not enjoyable. It’s tense, there’s a
>sense of quietness about everyone. I don’t think
>anyone is truly “excited”. I am not excited, I am
>more deflated after seeing what has become of our
>beloved PAGEANT. It’s random. The good news is
>that if you don’t want or have loads of money for an
>evening gown, congratulations! You don’t have to
>have one. Some of the contestants opted not to even
>wear an evening gown. Even the MAOT pageant has this.
> And what I feared would come true is exactly what
>happened-everyone pretty much sounded the same. If
>you heard the online videos, it wasn’t that much
>different from what you heard this evening. I want to
>be Miss America because I want to make a difference/I
>overcame difficulty/I now have a voice. Etc. I
>don’t know what else to say. For once, I am at a
>loss for words, and any of you who read this board
>know that is usually not a problem for me 😉 There
>seems to be much more of a focus on a “job”.
>It’s not even fun. There’s NO glamour whatsoever.
> And even so, when I say disorganized, it was.
>Despite the same line being told over again and again
>and again and again, it just seems like there is no
>clear idea of what the “job” is about. The
>contestants really don’t have the chance to sell
>themselves but in very short, canned answers. You are
>making 51 unique individuals try and prove that they
>are “the best for the job” when it’s really not
>clear what the job really is. These 51 individuals
>have different educational backgrounds, social
>interests, and personal backgrounds. If you
>“interview” for a “job”, you are usually
>someone in this day and age with an education and
>background in a specific area. It doesn’t even make
>any sense what they are trying to do.
>
>Okay, I will turn to the better part of the night.
>The talent was GOOD. If we had 3 nights of
>competition and you had some of tonight’s
>contestants going in different groups, there would be
>some amazing winners. I could have seen this going 6
>different ways. The best of the night was AL, MO, CA,
>GA, HI and UT. I wouldn’t have been surprised at
>any of them. Also good were Kansas, Tennessee,
>Vermont, and North Carolina. I hate to say this, but
>what people were saying about South Carolina is true.
>She just doesn’t have good talent. Although, based
>on what we see tomorrow night, I just want to remind
>everyone that last year MA did not have a good talent
>and was in the top 5.
>
>Good segue to what happened next. Truthfully, I did
>not have NJ as my winner tonight. But then again,
>this was by far THE WORST of the competition. Between
>the canned speeches, it was hard to figure out who
>really stood out. I didn’t have her standing out.
>And I am just being honest-I don’t know which part
>of tonight’s canned answers were judged, if they
>both were, just one, etc. I didn’t get the program
>book yet (not even sure I am going to, really). I
>thought some of the better ones of the night were
>Virginia, Mississippi was generic and pageanty but
>decent, Texas did speak confidently, and Minnesota
>sounded confident. Florida is VERY pageanty. Don’t
>get me wrong-I am very happy for Jade. She is a nice
>young woman and I thought the minute she was crowned
>is that she had national potential. She is confident
>without being over the top. And I would say the same
>thing with Michigan. The thing is-the judges
>interviewed 26 contestants and Michigan came out the
>winner. And who the hell can say whether or not
>anyone who wins is going to be in the top 15? Last
>year, VA did not make it but the others did. I would
>say that we have to take Michigan as a serious
>contender. But with only 3 judges, how are they
>REALLY going to determine who is scoring consistently
>and not? You have three opinions. I have seen
>judging disasters with a full panel. This I just
>don’t know what to say about any of it because
>there’s just repeating lines over and over again for
>15 or 20 seconds and talent. And with only three
>judges, who knows what we will get? I was surprised
>at the results of the speaking portions, although
>moreso with onstage than with private interviews. I
>did think that Mallory did a good enough job in her
>personal video. I thought that she personalized her
>story, spoke with a natural confidence. Did I think
>she would be first in this group? Likely not, but
>it’s a whole new competition when it’s a whole new
>competition.
>
>That’s sort of my short synopsis for now. I am
>tired, confused, and as I said, a bit deflated. I am
>going to post a full talent review sometime by
>mid-afternoon and then try and decipher what happened
>with the onstage questions parts of things. But I will
>give you the information as best as I can. Also, if
>you have any contestants in particular who you are
>cheering for and would like me to pay attention to
>them, please list them and I will pay close attention
>to them tomorrow and let you know how their
>competition was.
>
>Now I am off to get a good night’s rest. Long day,
>folks!
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Date Posted: 21:18:34 12/16/19 Mon
>>HELLO from Connecticut!
>>
>>Well, night 1 is over, and congratulations to the very
>>talented Victoria Hill. Also, congratulations to Jade
>>Glab and Mallory Rivard for their impressive
>>interviews. I’m not sure where to begin, so I will
>>answer the question that most everyone is wanting to
>>know: what is the vibe? The vibe is bad. Just plain
>>bad. Last year in AC, there was tension and
>>uncertainty of whether the pageant would remain there.
>> Things had just started to deteriorate, and there was
>>a lot of tension as to whether or not certain state
>>boards would get the axe, there were many people
>>against the changes, etc. This year, the vibe is
>>just, I hate to say this, dead, amateur, and
>>disorganized. Now, to be fair, this is my first time
>>out of Atlantic City. I was not to Las Vegas. But,
>>at least you had the preliminaries there in a nice
>>theater. And also to be fair, the Mohegan Sun is very
>>nice. It is the first time I was there, and it is
>>very nice. But the room itself-it’s almost like a
>>generic room where you would meet for a business
>>convention. I was waiting for someone to come out and
>>sell Amway (ha!) or come up with their PowerPoint
>>presentation. That’s the kind of room that it is.
>>It is very nice, but it isn’t even a theater. In
>>AC, you could put banners over the balconies, large
>>signs, etc. You can hold up a sign if you care to
>>carry it, and there are some people with your standard
>>fare cheering, etc. But the whole preliminary vibe is
>>gone. It is very sparsely attended, including former
>>Miss Americas. The usual state delegations, you can
>>kind of tell who is there for who, who is family, etc.
>> But there are not large crowds at all, for anyone.
>>And it’s not enjoyable. It’s tense, there’s a
>>sense of quietness about everyone. I don’t think
>>anyone is truly “excited”. I am not excited, I am
>>more deflated after seeing what has become of our
>>beloved PAGEANT. It’s random. The good news is
>>that if you don’t want or have loads of money for an
>>evening gown, congratulations! You don’t have to
>>have one. Some of the contestants opted not to even
>>wear an evening gown. Even the MAOT pageant has this.
>> And what I feared would come true is exactly what
>>happened-everyone pretty much sounded the same. If
>>you heard the online videos, it wasn’t that much
>>different from what you heard this evening. I want to
>>be Miss America because I want to make a difference/I
>>overcame difficulty/I now have a voice. Etc. I
>>don’t know what else to say. For once, I am at a
>>loss for words, and any of you who read this board
>>know that is usually not a problem for me 😉 There
>>seems to be much more of a focus on a “job”.
>>It’s not even fun. There’s NO glamour whatsoever.
>> And even so, when I say disorganized, it was.
>>Despite the same line being told over again and again
>>and again and again, it just seems like there is no
>>clear idea of what the “job” is about. The
>>contestants really don’t have the chance to sell
>>themselves but in very short, canned answers. You are
>>making 51 unique individuals try and prove that they
>>are “the best for the job” when it’s really not
>>clear what the job really is. These 51 individuals
>>have different educational backgrounds, social
>>interests, and personal backgrounds. If you
>>“interview” for a “job”, you are usually
>>someone in this day and age with an education and
>>background in a specific area. It doesn’t even make
>>any sense what they are trying to do.
>>
>>Okay, I will turn to the better part of the night.
>>The talent was GOOD. If we had 3 nights of
>>competition and you had some of tonight’s
>>contestants going in different groups, there would be
>>some amazing winners. I could have seen this going 6
>>different ways. The best of the night was AL, MO, CA,
>>GA, HI and UT. I wouldn’t have been surprised at
>>any of them. Also good were Kansas, Tennessee,
>>Vermont, and North Carolina. I hate to say this, but
>>what people were saying about South Carolina is true.
>>She just doesn’t have good talent. Although, based
>>on what we see tomorrow night, I just want to remind
>>everyone that last year MA did not have a good talent
>>and was in the top 5.
>>
>>Good segue to what happened next. Truthfully, I did
>>not have NJ as my winner tonight. But then again,
>>this was by far THE WORST of the competition. Between
>>the canned speeches, it was hard to figure out who
>>really stood out. I didn’t have her standing out.
>>And I am just being honest-I don’t know which part
>>of tonight’s canned answers were judged, if they
>>both were, just one, etc. I didn’t get the program
>>book yet (not even sure I am going to, really). I
>>thought some of the better ones of the night were
>>Virginia, Mississippi was generic and pageanty but
>>decent, Texas did speak confidently, and Minnesota
>>sounded confident. Florida is VERY pageanty. Don’t
>>get me wrong-I am very happy for Jade. She is a nice
>>young woman and I thought the minute she was crowned
>>is that she had national potential. She is confident
>>without being over the top. And I would say the same
>>thing with Michigan. The thing is-the judges
>>interviewed 26 contestants and Michigan came out the
>>winner. And who the hell can say whether or not
>>anyone who wins is going to be in the top 15? Last
>>year, VA did not make it but the others did. I would
>>say that we have to take Michigan as a serious
>>contender. But with only 3 judges, how are they
>>REALLY going to determine who is scoring consistently
>>and not? You have three opinions. I have seen
>>judging disasters with a full panel. This I just
>>don’t know what to say about any of it because
>>there’s just repeating lines over and over again for
>>15 or 20 seconds and talent. And with only three
>>judges, who knows what we will get? I was surprised
>>at the results of the speaking portions, although
>>moreso with onstage than with private interviews. I
>>did think that Mallory did a good enough job in her
>>personal video. I thought that she personalized her
>>story, spoke with a natural confidence. Did I think
>>she would be first in this group? Likely not, but
>>it’s a whole new competition when it’s a whole new
>>competition.
>>
>>That’s sort of my short synopsis for now. I am
>>tired, confused, and as I said, a bit deflated. I am
>>going to post a full talent review sometime by
>>mid-afternoon and then try and decipher what happened
>>with the onstage questions parts of things. But I will
>>give you the information as best as I can. Also, if
>>you have any contestants in particular who you are
>>cheering for and would like me to pay attention to
>>them, please list them and I will pay close attention
>>to them tomorrow and let you know how their
>>competition was.
>>
>>Now I am off to get a good night’s rest. Long day,
>>folks!
[> Subject: Re: NIGHT 1 PRELIMINARIES-MY FIRST THOUGHTS


Author:
MISS VIRGINIA won night two talent preliminary. Woo Hoo! I am loving these three preliminary judges !
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Date Posted: 22:12:27 12/16/19 Mon
>HELLO from Connecticut!
>
>Well, night 1 is over, and congratulations to the very
>talented Victoria Hill. Also, congratulations to Jade
>Glab and Mallory Rivard for their impressive
>interviews. I’m not sure where to begin, so I will
>answer the question that most everyone is wanting to
>know: what is the vibe? The vibe is bad. Just plain
>bad. Last year in AC, there was tension and
>uncertainty of whether the pageant would remain there.
> Things had just started to deteriorate, and there was
>a lot of tension as to whether or not certain state
>boards would get the axe, there were many people
>against the changes, etc. This year, the vibe is
>just, I hate to say this, dead, amateur, and
>disorganized. Now, to be fair, this is my first time
>out of Atlantic City. I was not to Las Vegas. But,
>at least you had the preliminaries there in a nice
>theater. And also to be fair, the Mohegan Sun is very
>nice. It is the first time I was there, and it is
>very nice. But the room itself-it’s almost like a
>generic room where you would meet for a business
>convention. I was waiting for someone to come out and
>sell Amway (ha!) or come up with their PowerPoint
>presentation. That’s the kind of room that it is.
>It is very nice, but it isn’t even a theater. In
>AC, you could put banners over the balconies, large
>signs, etc. You can hold up a sign if you care to
>carry it, and there are some people with your standard
>fare cheering, etc. But the whole preliminary vibe is
>gone. It is very sparsely attended, including former
>Miss Americas. The usual state delegations, you can
>kind of tell who is there for who, who is family, etc.
> But there are not large crowds at all, for anyone.
>And it’s not enjoyable. It’s tense, there’s a
>sense of quietness about everyone. I don’t think
>anyone is truly “excited”. I am not excited, I am
>more deflated after seeing what has become of our
>beloved PAGEANT. It’s random. The good news is
>that if you don’t want or have loads of money for an
>evening gown, congratulations! You don’t have to
>have one. Some of the contestants opted not to even
>wear an evening gown. Even the MAOT pageant has this.
> And what I feared would come true is exactly what
>happened-everyone pretty much sounded the same. If
>you heard the online videos, it wasn’t that much
>different from what you heard this evening. I want to
>be Miss America because I want to make a difference/I
>overcame difficulty/I now have a voice. Etc. I
>don’t know what else to say. For once, I am at a
>loss for words, and any of you who read this board
>know that is usually not a problem for me 😉 There
>seems to be much more of a focus on a “job”.
>It’s not even fun. There’s NO glamour whatsoever.
> And even so, when I say disorganized, it was.
>Despite the same line being told over again and again
>and again and again, it just seems like there is no
>clear idea of what the “job” is about. The
>contestants really don’t have the chance to sell
>themselves but in very short, canned answers. You are
>making 51 unique individuals try and prove that they
>are “the best for the job” when it’s really not
>clear what the job really is. These 51 individuals
>have different educational backgrounds, social
>interests, and personal backgrounds. If you
>“interview” for a “job”, you are usually
>someone in this day and age with an education and
>background in a specific area. It doesn’t even make
>any sense what they are trying to do.
>
>Okay, I will turn to the better part of the night.
>The talent was GOOD. If we had 3 nights of
>competition and you had some of tonight’s
>contestants going in different groups, there would be
>some amazing winners. I could have seen this going 6
>different ways. The best of the night was AL, MO, CA,
>GA, HI and UT. I wouldn’t have been surprised at
>any of them. Also good were Kansas, Tennessee,
>Vermont, and North Carolina. I hate to say this, but
>what people were saying about South Carolina is true.
>She just doesn’t have good talent. Although, based
>on what we see tomorrow night, I just want to remind
>everyone that last year MA did not have a good talent
>and was in the top 5.
>
>Good segue to what happened next. Truthfully, I did
>not have NJ as my winner tonight. But then again,
>this was by far THE WORST of the competition. Between
>the canned speeches, it was hard to figure out who
>really stood out. I didn’t have her standing out.
>And I am just being honest-I don’t know which part
>of tonight’s canned answers were judged, if they
>both were, just one, etc. I didn’t get the program
>book yet (not even sure I am going to, really). I
>thought some of the better ones of the night were
>Virginia, Mississippi was generic and pageanty but
>decent, Texas did speak confidently, and Minnesota
>sounded confident. Florida is VERY pageanty. Don’t
>get me wrong-I am very happy for Jade. She is a nice
>young woman and I thought the minute she was crowned
>is that she had national potential. She is confident
>without being over the top. And I would say the same
>thing with Michigan. The thing is-the judges
>interviewed 26 contestants and Michigan came out the
>winner. And who the hell can say whether or not
>anyone who wins is going to be in the top 15? Last
>year, VA did not make it but the others did. I would
>say that we have to take Michigan as a serious
>contender. But with only 3 judges, how are they
>REALLY going to determine who is scoring consistently
>and not? You have three opinions. I have seen
>judging disasters with a full panel. This I just
>don’t know what to say about any of it because
>there’s just repeating lines over and over again for
>15 or 20 seconds and talent. And with only three
>judges, who knows what we will get? I was surprised
>at the results of the speaking portions, although
>moreso with onstage than with private interviews. I
>did think that Mallory did a good enough job in her
>personal video. I thought that she personalized her
>story, spoke with a natural confidence. Did I think
>she would be first in this group? Likely not, but
>it’s a whole new competition when it’s a whole new
>competition.
>
>That’s sort of my short synopsis for now. I am
>tired, confused, and as I said, a bit deflated. I am
>going to post a full talent review sometime by
>mid-afternoon and then try and decipher what happened
>with the onstage questions parts of things. But I will
>give you the information as best as I can. Also, if
>you have any contestants in particular who you are
>cheering for and would like me to pay attention to
>them, please list them and I will pay close attention
>to them tomorrow and let you know how their
>competition was.
>
>Now I am off to get a good night’s rest. Long day,
>folks!
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Author:
Congrats to VIRGINIA and GEORGIA ! I think that they both will be in THE TOP FIVE !
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Date Posted: 22:24:46 12/16/19 Mon
>>HELLO from Connecticut!
>>
>>Well, night 1 is over, and congratulations to the very
>>talented Victoria Hill. Also, congratulations to Jade
>>Glab and Mallory Rivard for their impressive
>>interviews. I’m not sure where to begin, so I will
>>answer the question that most everyone is wanting to
>>know: what is the vibe? The vibe is bad. Just plain
>>bad. Last year in AC, there was tension and
>>uncertainty of whether the pageant would remain there.
>> Things had just started to deteriorate, and there was
>>a lot of tension as to whether or not certain state
>>boards would get the axe, there were many people
>>against the changes, etc. This year, the vibe is
>>just, I hate to say this, dead, amateur, and
>>disorganized. Now, to be fair, this is my first time
>>out of Atlantic City. I was not to Las Vegas. But,
>>at least you had the preliminaries there in a nice
>>theater. And also to be fair, the Mohegan Sun is very
>>nice. It is the first time I was there, and it is
>>very nice. But the room itself-it’s almost like a
>>generic room where you would meet for a business
>>convention. I was waiting for someone to come out and
>>sell Amway (ha!) or come up with their PowerPoint
>>presentation. That’s the kind of room that it is.
>>It is very nice, but it isn’t even a theater. In
>>AC, you could put banners over the balconies, large
>>signs, etc. You can hold up a sign if you care to
>>carry it, and there are some people with your standard
>>fare cheering, etc. But the whole preliminary vibe is
>>gone. It is very sparsely attended, including former
>>Miss Americas. The usual state delegations, you can
>>kind of tell who is there for who, who is family, etc.
>> But there are not large crowds at all, for anyone.
>>And it’s not enjoyable. It’s tense, there’s a
>>sense of quietness about everyone. I don’t think
>>anyone is truly “excited”. I am not excited, I am
>>more deflated after seeing what has become of our
>>beloved PAGEANT. It’s random. The good news is
>>that if you don’t want or have loads of money for an
>>evening gown, congratulations! You don’t have to
>>have one. Some of the contestants opted not to even
>>wear an evening gown. Even the MAOT pageant has this.
>> And what I feared would come true is exactly what
>>happened-everyone pretty much sounded the same. If
>>you heard the online videos, it wasn’t that much
>>different from what you heard this evening. I want to
>>be Miss America because I want to make a difference/I
>>overcame difficulty/I now have a voice. Etc. I
>>don’t know what else to say. For once, I am at a
>>loss for words, and any of you who read this board
>>know that is usually not a problem for me 😉 There
>>seems to be much more of a focus on a “job”.
>>It’s not even fun. There’s NO glamour whatsoever.
>> And even so, when I say disorganized, it was.
>>Despite the same line being told over again and again
>>and again and again, it just seems like there is no
>>clear idea of what the “job” is about. The
>>contestants really don’t have the chance to sell
>>themselves but in very short, canned answers. You are
>>making 51 unique individuals try and prove that they
>>are “the best for the job” when it’s really not
>>clear what the job really is. These 51 individuals
>>have different educational backgrounds, social
>>interests, and personal backgrounds. If you
>>“interview” for a “job”, you are usually
>>someone in this day and age with an education and
>>background in a specific area. It doesn’t even make
>>any sense what they are trying to do.
>>
>>Okay, I will turn to the better part of the night.
>>The talent was GOOD. If we had 3 nights of
>>competition and you had some of tonight’s
>>contestants going in different groups, there would be
>>some amazing winners. I could have seen this going 6
>>different ways. The best of the night was AL, MO, CA,
>>GA, HI and UT. I wouldn’t have been surprised at
>>any of them. Also good were Kansas, Tennessee,
>>Vermont, and North Carolina. I hate to say this, but
>>what people were saying about South Carolina is true.
>>She just doesn’t have good talent. Although, based
>>on what we see tomorrow night, I just want to remind
>>everyone that last year MA did not have a good talent
>>and was in the top 5.
>>
>>Good segue to what happened next. Truthfully, I did
>>not have NJ as my winner tonight. But then again,
>>this was by far THE WORST of the competition. Between
>>the canned speeches, it was hard to figure out who
>>really stood out. I didn’t have her standing out.
>>And I am just being honest-I don’t know which part
>>of tonight’s canned answers were judged, if they
>>both were, just one, etc. I didn’t get the program
>>book yet (not even sure I am going to, really). I
>>thought some of the better ones of the night were
>>Virginia, Mississippi was generic and pageanty but
>>decent, Texas did speak confidently, and Minnesota
>>sounded confident. Florida is VERY pageanty. Don’t
>>get me wrong-I am very happy for Jade. She is a nice
>>young woman and I thought the minute she was crowned
>>is that she had national potential. She is confident
>>without being over the top. And I would say the same
>>thing with Michigan. The thing is-the judges
>>interviewed 26 contestants and Michigan came out the
>>winner. And who the hell can say whether or not
>>anyone who wins is going to be in the top 15? Last
>>year, VA did not make it but the others did. I would
>>say that we have to take Michigan as a serious
>>contender. But with only 3 judges, how are they
>>REALLY going to determine who is scoring consistently
>>and not? You have three opinions. I have seen
>>judging disasters with a full panel. This I just
>>don’t know what to say about any of it because
>>there’s just repeating lines over and over again for
>>15 or 20 seconds and talent. And with only three
>>judges, who knows what we will get? I was surprised
>>at the results of the speaking portions, although
>>moreso with onstage than with private interviews. I
>>did think that Mallory did a good enough job in her
>>personal video. I thought that she personalized her
>>story, spoke with a natural confidence. Did I think
>>she would be first in this group? Likely not, but
>>it’s a whole new competition when it’s a whole new
>>competition.
>>
>>That’s sort of my short synopsis for now. I am
>>tired, confused, and as I said, a bit deflated. I am
>>going to post a full talent review sometime by
>>mid-afternoon and then try and decipher what happened
>>with the onstage questions parts of things. But I will
>>give you the information as best as I can. Also, if
>>you have any contestants in particular who you are
>>cheering for and would like me to pay attention to
>>them, please list them and I will pay close attention
>>to them tomorrow and let you know how their
>>competition was.
>>
>>Now I am off to get a good night’s rest. Long day,
>>folks!
[> [> [> Subject: Re: NIGHT 1 PRELIMINARIES-MY FIRST THOUGHTS


Author:
No name
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Date Posted: 22:25:31 12/16/19 Mon
>>>HELLO from Connecticut!
>>>
>>>Well, night 1 is over, and congratulations to the
>very
>>>talented Victoria Hill. Also, congratulations to
>Jade
>>>Glab and Mallory Rivard for their impressive
>>>interviews. I’m not sure where to begin, so I will
>>>answer the question that most everyone is wanting to
>>>know: what is the vibe? The vibe is bad. Just plain
>>>bad. Last year in AC, there was tension and
>>>uncertainty of whether the pageant would remain
>there.
>>> Things had just started to deteriorate, and there
>was
>>>a lot of tension as to whether or not certain state
>>>boards would get the axe, there were many people
>>>against the changes, etc. This year, the vibe is
>>>just, I hate to say this, dead, amateur, and
>>>disorganized. Now, to be fair, this is my first time
>>>out of Atlantic City. I was not to Las Vegas. But,
>>>at least you had the preliminaries there in a nice
>>>theater. And also to be fair, the Mohegan Sun is
>very
>>>nice. It is the first time I was there, and it is
>>>very nice. But the room itself-it’s almost like a
>>>generic room where you would meet for a business
>>>convention. I was waiting for someone to come out
>and
>>>sell Amway (ha!) or come up with their PowerPoint
>>>presentation. That’s the kind of room that it is.
>>>It is very nice, but it isn’t even a theater. In
>>>AC, you could put banners over the balconies, large
>>>signs, etc. You can hold up a sign if you care to
>>>carry it, and there are some people with your
>standard
>>>fare cheering, etc. But the whole preliminary vibe
>is
>>>gone. It is very sparsely attended, including former
>>>Miss Americas. The usual state delegations, you can
>>>kind of tell who is there for who, who is family,
>etc.
>>> But there are not large crowds at all, for anyone.
>>>And it’s not enjoyable. It’s tense, there’s a
>>>sense of quietness about everyone. I don’t think
>>>anyone is truly “excited”. I am not excited, I
>am
>>>more deflated after seeing what has become of our
>>>beloved PAGEANT. It’s random. The good news is
>>>that if you don’t want or have loads of money for
>an
>>>evening gown, congratulations! You don’t have to
>>>have one. Some of the contestants opted not to even
>>>wear an evening gown. Even the MAOT pageant has
>this.
>>> And what I feared would come true is exactly what
>>>happened-everyone pretty much sounded the same. If
>>>you heard the online videos, it wasn’t that much
>>>different from what you heard this evening. I want
>to
>>>be Miss America because I want to make a difference/I
>>>overcame difficulty/I now have a voice. Etc. I
>>>don’t know what else to say. For once, I am at a
>>>loss for words, and any of you who read this board
>>>know that is usually not a problem for me 😉 There
>>>seems to be much more of a focus on a “job”.
>>>It’s not even fun. There’s NO glamour
>whatsoever.
>>> And even so, when I say disorganized, it was.
>>>Despite the same line being told over again and again
>>>and again and again, it just seems like there is no
>>>clear idea of what the “job” is about. The
>>>contestants really don’t have the chance to sell
>>>themselves but in very short, canned answers. You
>are
>>>making 51 unique individuals try and prove that they
>>>are “the best for the job” when it’s really not
>>>clear what the job really is. These 51 individuals
>>>have different educational backgrounds, social
>>>interests, and personal backgrounds. If you
>>>“interview” for a “job”, you are usually
>>>someone in this day and age with an education and
>>>background in a specific area. It doesn’t even
>make
>>>any sense what they are trying to do.
>>>
>>>Okay, I will turn to the better part of the night.
>>>The talent was GOOD. If we had 3 nights of
>>>competition and you had some of tonight’s
>>>contestants going in different groups, there would be
>>>some amazing winners. I could have seen this going 6
>>>different ways. The best of the night was AL, MO,
>CA,
>>>GA, HI and UT. I wouldn’t have been surprised at
>>>any of them. Also good were Kansas, Tennessee,
>>>Vermont, and North Carolina. I hate to say this, but
>>>what people were saying about South Carolina is
>true.
>>>She just doesn’t have good talent. Although, based
>>>on what we see tomorrow night, I just want to remind
>>>everyone that last year MA did not have a good talent
>>>and was in the top 5.
>>>
>>>Good segue to what happened next. Truthfully, I did
>>>not have NJ as my winner tonight. But then again,
>>>this was by far THE WORST of the competition.
>Between
>>>the canned speeches, it was hard to figure out who
>>>really stood out. I didn’t have her standing out.
>
>>>And I am just being honest-I don’t know which part
>>>of tonight’s canned answers were judged, if they
>>>both were, just one, etc. I didn’t get the program
>>>book yet (not even sure I am going to, really). I
>>>thought some of the better ones of the night were
>>>Virginia, Mississippi was generic and pageanty but
>>>decent, Texas did speak confidently, and Minnesota
>>>sounded confident. Florida is VERY pageanty.
>Don’t
>>>get me wrong-I am very happy for Jade. She is a nice
>>>young woman and I thought the minute she was crowned
>>>is that she had national potential. She is confident
>>>without being over the top. And I would say the same
>>>thing with Michigan. The thing is-the judges
>>>interviewed 26 contestants and Michigan came out the
>>>winner. And who the hell can say whether or not
>>>anyone who wins is going to be in the top 15? Last
>>>year, VA did not make it but the others did. I would
>>>say that we have to take Michigan as a serious
>>>contender. But with only 3 judges, how are they
>>>REALLY going to determine who is scoring consistently
>>>and not? You have three opinions. I have seen
>>>judging disasters with a full panel. This I just
>>>don’t know what to say about any of it because
>>>there’s just repeating lines over and over again
>for
>>>15 or 20 seconds and talent. And with only three
>>>judges, who knows what we will get? I was surprised
>>>at the results of the speaking portions, although
>>>moreso with onstage than with private interviews. I
>>>did think that Mallory did a good enough job in her
>>>personal video. I thought that she personalized her
>>>story, spoke with a natural confidence. Did I think
>>>she would be first in this group? Likely not, but
>>>it’s a whole new competition when it’s a whole
>new
>>>competition.
>>>
>>>That’s sort of my short synopsis for now. I am
>>>tired, confused, and as I said, a bit deflated. I am
>>>going to post a full talent review sometime by
>>>mid-afternoon and then try and decipher what happened
>>>with the onstage questions parts of things. But I
>will
>>>give you the information as best as I can. Also, if
>>>you have any contestants in particular who you are
>>>cheering for and would like me to pay attention to
>>>them, please list them and I will pay close attention
>>>to them tomorrow and let you know how their
>>>competition was.
>>>
>>>Now I am off to get a good night’s rest. Long day,
>>>folks!
[> Subject: Thanks everyone for the glowing reviews! I am glad to do this. It's a lot of fun for me, and I appreciate when others are enjoying the reviews. Keep coming back, I'll be posting the rest of the week!


Author:
Owner/Moderator
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Date Posted: 01:12:06 12/17/19 Tue
>HELLO from Connecticut!
>
>Well, night 1 is over, and congratulations to the very
>talented Victoria Hill. Also, congratulations to Jade
>Glab and Mallory Rivard for their impressive
>interviews. I’m not sure where to begin, so I will
>answer the question that most everyone is wanting to
>know: what is the vibe? The vibe is bad. Just plain
>bad. Last year in AC, there was tension and
>uncertainty of whether the pageant would remain there.
> Things had just started to deteriorate, and there was
>a lot of tension as to whether or not certain state
>boards would get the axe, there were many people
>against the changes, etc. This year, the vibe is
>just, I hate to say this, dead, amateur, and
>disorganized. Now, to be fair, this is my first time
>out of Atlantic City. I was not to Las Vegas. But,
>at least you had the preliminaries there in a nice
>theater. And also to be fair, the Mohegan Sun is very
>nice. It is the first time I was there, and it is
>very nice. But the room itself-it’s almost like a
>generic room where you would meet for a business
>convention. I was waiting for someone to come out and
>sell Amway (ha!) or come up with their PowerPoint
>presentation. That’s the kind of room that it is.
>It is very nice, but it isn’t even a theater. In
>AC, you could put banners over the balconies, large
>signs, etc. You can hold up a sign if you care to
>carry it, and there are some people with your standard
>fare cheering, etc. But the whole preliminary vibe is
>gone. It is very sparsely attended, including former
>Miss Americas. The usual state delegations, you can
>kind of tell who is there for who, who is family, etc.
> But there are not large crowds at all, for anyone.
>And it’s not enjoyable. It’s tense, there’s a
>sense of quietness about everyone. I don’t think
>anyone is truly “excited”. I am not excited, I am
>more deflated after seeing what has become of our
>beloved PAGEANT. It’s random. The good news is
>that if you don’t want or have loads of money for an
>evening gown, congratulations! You don’t have to
>have one. Some of the contestants opted not to even
>wear an evening gown. Even the MAOT pageant has this.
> And what I feared would come true is exactly what
>happened-everyone pretty much sounded the same. If
>you heard the online videos, it wasn’t that much
>different from what you heard this evening. I want to
>be Miss America because I want to make a difference/I
>overcame difficulty/I now have a voice. Etc. I
>don’t know what else to say. For once, I am at a
>loss for words, and any of you who read this board
>know that is usually not a problem for me 😉 There
>seems to be much more of a focus on a “job”.
>It’s not even fun. There’s NO glamour whatsoever.
> And even so, when I say disorganized, it was.
>Despite the same line being told over again and again
>and again and again, it just seems like there is no
>clear idea of what the “job” is about. The
>contestants really don’t have the chance to sell
>themselves but in very short, canned answers. You are
>making 51 unique individuals try and prove that they
>are “the best for the job” when it’s really not
>clear what the job really is. These 51 individuals
>have different educational backgrounds, social
>interests, and personal backgrounds. If you
>“interview” for a “job”, you are usually
>someone in this day and age with an education and
>background in a specific area. It doesn’t even make
>any sense what they are trying to do.
>
>Okay, I will turn to the better part of the night.
>The talent was GOOD. If we had 3 nights of
>competition and you had some of tonight’s
>contestants going in different groups, there would be
>some amazing winners. I could have seen this going 6
>different ways. The best of the night was AL, MO, CA,
>GA, HI and UT. I wouldn’t have been surprised at
>any of them. Also good were Kansas, Tennessee,
>Vermont, and North Carolina. I hate to say this, but
>what people were saying about South Carolina is true.
>She just doesn’t have good talent. Although, based
>on what we see tomorrow night, I just want to remind
>everyone that last year MA did not have a good talent
>and was in the top 5.
>
>Good segue to what happened next. Truthfully, I did
>not have NJ as my winner tonight. But then again,
>this was by far THE WORST of the competition. Between
>the canned speeches, it was hard to figure out who
>really stood out. I didn’t have her standing out.
>And I am just being honest-I don’t know which part
>of tonight’s canned answers were judged, if they
>both were, just one, etc. I didn’t get the program
>book yet (not even sure I am going to, really). I
>thought some of the better ones of the night were
>Virginia, Mississippi was generic and pageanty but
>decent, Texas did speak confidently, and Minnesota
>sounded confident. Florida is VERY pageanty. Don’t
>get me wrong-I am very happy for Jade. She is a nice
>young woman and I thought the minute she was crowned
>is that she had national potential. She is confident
>without being over the top. And I would say the same
>thing with Michigan. The thing is-the judges
>interviewed 26 contestants and Michigan came out the
>winner. And who the hell can say whether or not
>anyone who wins is going to be in the top 15? Last
>year, VA did not make it but the others did. I would
>say that we have to take Michigan as a serious
>contender. But with only 3 judges, how are they
>REALLY going to determine who is scoring consistently
>and not? You have three opinions. I have seen
>judging disasters with a full panel. This I just
>don’t know what to say about any of it because
>there’s just repeating lines over and over again for
>15 or 20 seconds and talent. And with only three
>judges, who knows what we will get? I was surprised
>at the results of the speaking portions, although
>moreso with onstage than with private interviews. I
>did think that Mallory did a good enough job in her
>personal video. I thought that she personalized her
>story, spoke with a natural confidence. Did I think
>she would be first in this group? Likely not, but
>it’s a whole new competition when it’s a whole new
>competition.
>
>That’s sort of my short synopsis for now. I am
>tired, confused, and as I said, a bit deflated. I am
>going to post a full talent review sometime by
>mid-afternoon and then try and decipher what happened
>with the onstage questions parts of things. But I will
>give you the information as best as I can. Also, if
>you have any contestants in particular who you are
>cheering for and would like me to pay attention to
>them, please list them and I will pay close attention
>to them tomorrow and let you know how their
>competition was.
>
>Now I am off to get a good night’s rest. Long day,
>folks!
[> [> Subject: Re: Thanks everyone for the glowing reviews! I am glad to do this. It's a lot of fun for me, and I appreciate when others are enjoying the reviews. Keep coming back, I'll be posting the rest of the week!


Author:
I love reading your reviews.
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Date Posted: 08:18:23 12/17/19 Tue
>>HELLO from Connecticut!
>>
>>Well, night 1 is over, and congratulations to the very
>>talented Victoria Hill. Also, congratulations to Jade
>>Glab and Mallory Rivard for their impressive
>>interviews. I’m not sure where to begin, so I will
>>answer the question that most everyone is wanting to
>>know: what is the vibe? The vibe is bad. Just plain
>>bad. Last year in AC, there was tension and
>>uncertainty of whether the pageant would remain there.
>> Things had just started to deteriorate, and there was
>>a lot of tension as to whether or not certain state
>>boards would get the axe, there were many people
>>against the changes, etc. This year, the vibe is
>>just, I hate to say this, dead, amateur, and
>>disorganized. Now, to be fair, this is my first time
>>out of Atlantic City. I was not to Las Vegas. But,
>>at least you had the preliminaries there in a nice
>>theater. And also to be fair, the Mohegan Sun is very
>>nice. It is the first time I was there, and it is
>>very nice. But the room itself-it’s almost like a
>>generic room where you would meet for a business
>>convention. I was waiting for someone to come out and
>>sell Amway (ha!) or come up with their PowerPoint
>>presentation. That’s the kind of room that it is.
>>It is very nice, but it isn’t even a theater. In
>>AC, you could put banners over the balconies, large
>>signs, etc. You can hold up a sign if you care to
>>carry it, and there are some people with your standard
>>fare cheering, etc. But the whole preliminary vibe is
>>gone. It is very sparsely attended, including former
>>Miss Americas. The usual state delegations, you can
>>kind of tell who is there for who, who is family, etc.
>> But there are not large crowds at all, for anyone.
>>And it’s not enjoyable. It’s tense, there’s a
>>sense of quietness about everyone. I don’t think
>>anyone is truly “excited”. I am not excited, I am
>>more deflated after seeing what has become of our
>>beloved PAGEANT. It’s random. The good news is
>>that if you don’t want or have loads of money for an
>>evening gown, congratulations! You don’t have to
>>have one. Some of the contestants opted not to even
>>wear an evening gown. Even the MAOT pageant has this.
>> And what I feared would come true is exactly what
>>happened-everyone pretty much sounded the same. If
>>you heard the online videos, it wasn’t that much
>>different from what you heard this evening. I want to
>>be Miss America because I want to make a difference/I
>>overcame difficulty/I now have a voice. Etc. I
>>don’t know what else to say. For once, I am at a
>>loss for words, and any of you who read this board
>>know that is usually not a problem for me 😉 There
>>seems to be much more of a focus on a “job”.
>>It’s not even fun. There’s NO glamour whatsoever.
>> And even so, when I say disorganized, it was.
>>Despite the same line being told over again and again
>>and again and again, it just seems like there is no
>>clear idea of what the “job” is about. The
>>contestants really don’t have the chance to sell
>>themselves but in very short, canned answers. You are
>>making 51 unique individuals try and prove that they
>>are “the best for the job” when it’s really not
>>clear what the job really is. These 51 individuals
>>have different educational backgrounds, social
>>interests, and personal backgrounds. If you
>>“interview” for a “job”, you are usually
>>someone in this day and age with an education and
>>background in a specific area. It doesn’t even make
>>any sense what they are trying to do.
>>
>>Okay, I will turn to the better part of the night.
>>The talent was GOOD. If we had 3 nights of
>>competition and you had some of tonight’s
>>contestants going in different groups, there would be
>>some amazing winners. I could have seen this going 6
>>different ways. The best of the night was AL, MO, CA,
>>GA, HI and UT. I wouldn’t have been surprised at
>>any of them. Also good were Kansas, Tennessee,
>>Vermont, and North Carolina. I hate to say this, but
>>what people were saying about South Carolina is true.
>>She just doesn’t have good talent. Although, based
>>on what we see tomorrow night, I just want to remind
>>everyone that last year MA did not have a good talent
>>and was in the top 5.
>>
>>Good segue to what happened next. Truthfully, I did
>>not have NJ as my winner tonight. But then again,
>>this was by far THE WORST of the competition. Between
>>the canned speeches, it was hard to figure out who
>>really stood out. I didn’t have her standing out.
>>And I am just being honest-I don’t know which part
>>of tonight’s canned answers were judged, if they
>>both were, just one, etc. I didn’t get the program
>>book yet (not even sure I am going to, really). I
>>thought some of the better ones of the night were
>>Virginia, Mississippi was generic and pageanty but
>>decent, Texas did speak confidently, and Minnesota
>>sounded confident. Florida is VERY pageanty. Don’t
>>get me wrong-I am very happy for Jade. She is a nice
>>young woman and I thought the minute she was crowned
>>is that she had national potential. She is confident
>>without being over the top. And I would say the same
>>thing with Michigan. The thing is-the judges
>>interviewed 26 contestants and Michigan came out the
>>winner. And who the hell can say whether or not
>>anyone who wins is going to be in the top 15? Last
>>year, VA did not make it but the others did. I would
>>say that we have to take Michigan as a serious
>>contender. But with only 3 judges, how are they
>>REALLY going to determine who is scoring consistently
>>and not? You have three opinions. I have seen
>>judging disasters with a full panel. This I just
>>don’t know what to say about any of it because
>>there’s just repeating lines over and over again for
>>15 or 20 seconds and talent. And with only three
>>judges, who knows what we will get? I was surprised
>>at the results of the speaking portions, although
>>moreso with onstage than with private interviews. I
>>did think that Mallory did a good enough job in her
>>personal video. I thought that she personalized her
>>story, spoke with a natural confidence. Did I think
>>she would be first in this group? Likely not, but
>>it’s a whole new competition when it’s a whole new
>>competition.
>>
>>That’s sort of my short synopsis for now. I am
>>tired, confused, and as I said, a bit deflated. I am
>>going to post a full talent review sometime by
>>mid-afternoon and then try and decipher what happened
>>with the onstage questions parts of things. But I will
>>give you the information as best as I can. Also, if
>>you have any contestants in particular who you are
>>cheering for and would like me to pay attention to
>>them, please list them and I will pay close attention
>>to them tomorrow and let you know how their
>>competition was.
>>
>>Now I am off to get a good night’s rest. Long day,
>>folks!
[> [> [> Subject: I thought Miss Connecticut's talent and SII were both top notch. I wouldn't be surprised if she won.


Author:
No name
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Date Posted: 10:51:30 12/17/19 Tue
>>>HELLO from Connecticut!
>>>
>>>Well, night 1 is over, and congratulations to the
>very
>>>talented Victoria Hill. Also, congratulations to
>Jade
>>>Glab and Mallory Rivard for their impressive
>>>interviews. I’m not sure where to begin, so I will
>>>answer the question that most everyone is wanting to
>>>know: what is the vibe? The vibe is bad. Just plain
>>>bad. Last year in AC, there was tension and
>>>uncertainty of whether the pageant would remain
>there.
>>> Things had just started to deteriorate, and there
>was
>>>a lot of tension as to whether or not certain state
>>>boards would get the axe, there were many people
>>>against the changes, etc. This year, the vibe is
>>>just, I hate to say this, dead, amateur, and
>>>disorganized. Now, to be fair, this is my first time
>>>out of Atlantic City. I was not to Las Vegas. But,
>>>at least you had the preliminaries there in a nice
>>>theater. And also to be fair, the Mohegan Sun is
>very
>>>nice. It is the first time I was there, and it is
>>>very nice. But the room itself-it’s almost like a
>>>generic room where you would meet for a business
>>>convention. I was waiting for someone to come out
>and
>>>sell Amway (ha!) or come up with their PowerPoint
>>>presentation. That’s the kind of room that it is.
>>>It is very nice, but it isn’t even a theater. In
>>>AC, you could put banners over the balconies, large
>>>signs, etc. You can hold up a sign if you care to
>>>carry it, and there are some people with your
>standard
>>>fare cheering, etc. But the whole preliminary vibe
>is
>>>gone. It is very sparsely attended, including former
>>>Miss Americas. The usual state delegations, you can
>>>kind of tell who is there for who, who is family,
>etc.
>>> But there are not large crowds at all, for anyone.
>>>And it’s not enjoyable. It’s tense, there’s a
>>>sense of quietness about everyone. I don’t think
>>>anyone is truly “excited”. I am not excited, I
>am
>>>more deflated after seeing what has become of our
>>>beloved PAGEANT. It’s random. The good news is
>>>that if you don’t want or have loads of money for
>an
>>>evening gown, congratulations! You don’t have to
>>>have one. Some of the contestants opted not to even
>>>wear an evening gown. Even the MAOT pageant has
>this.
>>> And what I feared would come true is exactly what
>>>happened-everyone pretty much sounded the same. If
>>>you heard the online videos, it wasn’t that much
>>>different from what you heard this evening. I want
>to
>>>be Miss America because I want to make a difference/I
>>>overcame difficulty/I now have a voice. Etc. I
>>>don’t know what else to say. For once, I am at a
>>>loss for words, and any of you who read this board
>>>know that is usually not a problem for me 😉 There
>>>seems to be much more of a focus on a “job”.
>>>It’s not even fun. There’s NO glamour
>whatsoever.
>>> And even so, when I say disorganized, it was.
>>>Despite the same line being told over again and again
>>>and again and again, it just seems like there is no
>>>clear idea of what the “job” is about. The
>>>contestants really don’t have the chance to sell
>>>themselves but in very short, canned answers. You
>are
>>>making 51 unique individuals try and prove that they
>>>are “the best for the job” when it’s really not
>>>clear what the job really is. These 51 individuals
>>>have different educational backgrounds, social
>>>interests, and personal backgrounds. If you
>>>“interview” for a “job”, you are usually
>>>someone in this day and age with an education and
>>>background in a specific area. It doesn’t even
>make
>>>any sense what they are trying to do.
>>>
>>>Okay, I will turn to the better part of the night.
>>>The talent was GOOD. If we had 3 nights of
>>>competition and you had some of tonight’s
>>>contestants going in different groups, there would be
>>>some amazing winners. I could have seen this going 6
>>>different ways. The best of the night was AL, MO,
>CA,
>>>GA, HI and UT. I wouldn’t have been surprised at
>>>any of them. Also good were Kansas, Tennessee,
>>>Vermont, and North Carolina. I hate to say this, but
>>>what people were saying about South Carolina is
>true.
>>>She just doesn’t have good talent. Although, based
>>>on what we see tomorrow night, I just want to remind
>>>everyone that last year MA did not have a good talent
>>>and was in the top 5.
>>>
>>>Good segue to what happened next. Truthfully, I did
>>>not have NJ as my winner tonight. But then again,
>>>this was by far THE WORST of the competition.
>Between
>>>the canned speeches, it was hard to figure out who
>>>really stood out. I didn’t have her standing out.
>
>>>And I am just being honest-I don’t know which part
>>>of tonight’s canned answers were judged, if they
>>>both were, just one, etc. I didn’t get the program
>>>book yet (not even sure I am going to, really). I
>>>thought some of the better ones of the night were
>>>Virginia, Mississippi was generic and pageanty but
>>>decent, Texas did speak confidently, and Minnesota
>>>sounded confident. Florida is VERY pageanty.
>Don’t
>>>get me wrong-I am very happy for Jade. She is a nice
>>>young woman and I thought the minute she was crowned
>>>is that she had national potential. She is confident
>>>without being over the top. And I would say the same
>>>thing with Michigan. The thing is-the judges
>>>interviewed 26 contestants and Michigan came out the
>>>winner. And who the hell can say whether or not
>>>anyone who wins is going to be in the top 15? Last
>>>year, VA did not make it but the others did. I would
>>>say that we have to take Michigan as a serious
>>>contender. But with only 3 judges, how are they
>>>REALLY going to determine who is scoring consistently
>>>and not? You have three opinions. I have seen
>>>judging disasters with a full panel. This I just
>>>don’t know what to say about any of it because
>>>there’s just repeating lines over and over again
>for
>>>15 or 20 seconds and talent. And with only three
>>>judges, who knows what we will get? I was surprised
>>>at the results of the speaking portions, although
>>>moreso with onstage than with private interviews. I
>>>did think that Mallory did a good enough job in her
>>>personal video. I thought that she personalized her
>>>story, spoke with a natural confidence. Did I think
>>>she would be first in this group? Likely not, but
>>>it’s a whole new competition when it’s a whole
>new
>>>competition.
>>>
>>>That’s sort of my short synopsis for now. I am
>>>tired, confused, and as I said, a bit deflated. I am
>>>going to post a full talent review sometime by
>>>mid-afternoon and then try and decipher what happened
>>>with the onstage questions parts of things. But I
>will
>>>give you the information as best as I can. Also, if
>>>you have any contestants in particular who you are
>>>cheering for and would like me to pay attention to
>>>them, please list them and I will pay close attention
>>>to them tomorrow and let you know how their
>>>competition was.
>>>
>>>Now I am off to get a good night’s rest. Long day,
>>>folks!
[> [> [> Subject: Thanks to the poster above the CT comment-please keep reading! Talent coming up momentarily :) Connecticut-I thought she was one of the better speakers last night. I think she presented herself very well. I will have comments on her talent in the thread I am about to post.


Author:
Owner/Moderator
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Date Posted: 13:38:47 12/17/19 Tue
>>>HELLO from Connecticut!
>>>
>>>Well, night 1 is over, and congratulations to the
>very
>>>talented Victoria Hill. Also, congratulations to
>Jade
>>>Glab and Mallory Rivard for their impressive
>>>interviews. I’m not sure where to begin, so I will
>>>answer the question that most everyone is wanting to
>>>know: what is the vibe? The vibe is bad. Just plain
>>>bad. Last year in AC, there was tension and
>>>uncertainty of whether the pageant would remain
>there.
>>> Things had just started to deteriorate, and there
>was
>>>a lot of tension as to whether or not certain state
>>>boards would get the axe, there were many people
>>>against the changes, etc. This year, the vibe is
>>>just, I hate to say this, dead, amateur, and
>>>disorganized. Now, to be fair, this is my first time
>>>out of Atlantic City. I was not to Las Vegas. But,
>>>at least you had the preliminaries there in a nice
>>>theater. And also to be fair, the Mohegan Sun is
>very
>>>nice. It is the first time I was there, and it is
>>>very nice. But the room itself-it’s almost like a
>>>generic room where you would meet for a business
>>>convention. I was waiting for someone to come out
>and
>>>sell Amway (ha!) or come up with their PowerPoint
>>>presentation. That’s the kind of room that it is.
>>>It is very nice, but it isn’t even a theater. In
>>>AC, you could put banners over the balconies, large
>>>signs, etc. You can hold up a sign if you care to
>>>carry it, and there are some people with your
>standard
>>>fare cheering, etc. But the whole preliminary vibe
>is
>>>gone. It is very sparsely attended, including former
>>>Miss Americas. The usual state delegations, you can
>>>kind of tell who is there for who, who is family,
>etc.
>>> But there are not large crowds at all, for anyone.
>>>And it’s not enjoyable. It’s tense, there’s a
>>>sense of quietness about everyone. I don’t think
>>>anyone is truly “excited”. I am not excited, I
>am
>>>more deflated after seeing what has become of our
>>>beloved PAGEANT. It’s random. The good news is
>>>that if you don’t want or have loads of money for
>an
>>>evening gown, congratulations! You don’t have to
>>>have one. Some of the contestants opted not to even
>>>wear an evening gown. Even the MAOT pageant has
>this.
>>> And what I feared would come true is exactly what
>>>happened-everyone pretty much sounded the same. If
>>>you heard the online videos, it wasn’t that much
>>>different from what you heard this evening. I want
>to
>>>be Miss America because I want to make a difference/I
>>>overcame difficulty/I now have a voice. Etc. I
>>>don’t know what else to say. For once, I am at a
>>>loss for words, and any of you who read this board
>>>know that is usually not a problem for me 😉 There
>>>seems to be much more of a focus on a “job”.
>>>It’s not even fun. There’s NO glamour
>whatsoever.
>>> And even so, when I say disorganized, it was.
>>>Despite the same line being told over again and again
>>>and again and again, it just seems like there is no
>>>clear idea of what the “job” is about. The
>>>contestants really don’t have the chance to sell
>>>themselves but in very short, canned answers. You
>are
>>>making 51 unique individuals try and prove that they
>>>are “the best for the job” when it’s really not
>>>clear what the job really is. These 51 individuals
>>>have different educational backgrounds, social
>>>interests, and personal backgrounds. If you
>>>“interview” for a “job”, you are usually
>>>someone in this day and age with an education and
>>>background in a specific area. It doesn’t even
>make
>>>any sense what they are trying to do.
>>>
>>>Okay, I will turn to the better part of the night.
>>>The talent was GOOD. If we had 3 nights of
>>>competition and you had some of tonight’s
>>>contestants going in different groups, there would be
>>>some amazing winners. I could have seen this going 6
>>>different ways. The best of the night was AL, MO,
>CA,
>>>GA, HI and UT. I wouldn’t have been surprised at
>>>any of them. Also good were Kansas, Tennessee,
>>>Vermont, and North Carolina. I hate to say this, but
>>>what people were saying about South Carolina is
>true.
>>>She just doesn’t have good talent. Although, based
>>>on what we see tomorrow night, I just want to remind
>>>everyone that last year MA did not have a good talent
>>>and was in the top 5.
>>>
>>>Good segue to what happened next. Truthfully, I did
>>>not have NJ as my winner tonight. But then again,
>>>this was by far THE WORST of the competition.
>Between
>>>the canned speeches, it was hard to figure out who
>>>really stood out. I didn’t have her standing out.
>
>>>And I am just being honest-I don’t know which part
>>>of tonight’s canned answers were judged, if they
>>>both were, just one, etc. I didn’t get the program
>>>book yet (not even sure I am going to, really). I
>>>thought some of the better ones of the night were
>>>Virginia, Mississippi was generic and pageanty but
>>>decent, Texas did speak confidently, and Minnesota
>>>sounded confident. Florida is VERY pageanty.
>Don’t
>>>get me wrong-I am very happy for Jade. She is a nice
>>>young woman and I thought the minute she was crowned
>>>is that she had national potential. She is confident
>>>without being over the top. And I would say the same
>>>thing with Michigan. The thing is-the judges
>>>interviewed 26 contestants and Michigan came out the
>>>winner. And who the hell can say whether or not
>>>anyone who wins is going to be in the top 15? Last
>>>year, VA did not make it but the others did. I would
>>>say that we have to take Michigan as a serious
>>>contender. But with only 3 judges, how are they
>>>REALLY going to determine who is scoring consistently
>>>and not? You have three opinions. I have seen
>>>judging disasters with a full panel. This I just
>>>don’t know what to say about any of it because
>>>there’s just repeating lines over and over again
>for
>>>15 or 20 seconds and talent. And with only three
>>>judges, who knows what we will get? I was surprised
>>>at the results of the speaking portions, although
>>>moreso with onstage than with private interviews. I
>>>did think that Mallory did a good enough job in her
>>>personal video. I thought that she personalized her
>>>story, spoke with a natural confidence. Did I think
>>>she would be first in this group? Likely not, but
>>>it’s a whole new competition when it’s a whole
>new
>>>competition.
>>>
>>>That’s sort of my short synopsis for now. I am
>>>tired, confused, and as I said, a bit deflated. I am
>>>going to post a full talent review sometime by
>>>mid-afternoon and then try and decipher what happened
>>>with the onstage questions parts of things. But I
>will
>>>give you the information as best as I can. Also, if
>>>you have any contestants in particular who you are
>>>cheering for and would like me to pay attention to
>>>them, please list them and I will pay close attention
>>>to them tomorrow and let you know how their
>>>competition was.
>>>
>>>Now I am off to get a good night’s rest. Long day,
>>>folks!

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