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Subject: THE NEW VIDEOS


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Date Posted: 15:45:37 12/10/19 Tue

Maybe I should watch these in smaller doses, because I seemed to enjoy them more this time around. Here's what I thought. We still are missing some, Maine and Virginia are not available, some more need audio like PA and RI.

OH-has audio now. I do like that she made this about women in general and not the typical MAOspeak. I also like that we get to know her personally. And woo hoo-someone said that someone else was their personal Miss America besides her mom! I am actually looking for good things from Ohio after seeing this video. Well done. I feel she is very relatable.
OK-She is cute. I think she is well-spoken-not the sing-song speak. Certainly has the MAOspeak, but I do think she is not pageanty. I’m not sure I see the “it” factor that I have been hearing about with her, but I think she is top 15.
SC-she is telegenic. I think she speaks well-clear and articulate. A lot of MAOspeak, but she does have something that makes you notice her.
SD-So she’s Miss South Dakota (sorry, see my post below). Her tone was a bit flat, but I do appreciate her own personal story, and I think it is very relevant. If you want to make this about relating to young women, help them deal with the realities of college. I know lot of people who struggled in high school with the impending changes and then with the adjustment to college, feeling confused, etc. I also appreciated her love for her local community.
TX-I paid close attention to this as many people think she is going to win. Based on what we saw working at Miss Universe with regards to “beauty” and all of that, I wouldn’t be surprised if she won. As far as this video, she speaks well, but I don’t see her as better or worse than anyone else I’ve heard. She is convincing and she believes in what she is saying, but she’s also a bit soft-spoken. I get a story, but I’m not getting the charisma that would win. But again, I think this story could win it for her. It’s what MAO is saying, it’s not about beauty.
UT-A bit shy and reserved, I thought. I like her, but like with some of the others, she’s going to have to pick it up a little bit if she wants to make the top 15.
VT-I liked this. I liked the fact that she didn’t spit out talking points and stated the “message” in a unique way. She’s very conversational and natural.
WA-she’s very telegenic. A little pageanty, but she does seem well-spoken.
WV-average, a bit sing-song, though I appreciated her story about her platform
WI-I liked that she spoke about her platforms and that we got to know her personally. That is what I am looking for with these videos, not just repeating MAOspeak.

And I am correct that there are only going to be three judges this year? Three? Is this for the preliminaries or the finals? I don't know what to say here. I don't know if nobody wanted to do this, if they waited until the last minute and this is all they could do. Or, do they think this is actually a good idea? I don't think that there should be any less than six judges on a panel. With three judges if you get one judge who is not on board with you, you're done. And with all of these judging changes, three judges should not be shaping everything. I heard back in 02 when Erika Harold won that one of the judges said they had no idea what they were really voting for and ended up voting for her because they thought Miss America should be academically oriented. But at least they had a full judging panel. This is a disaster waiting to happen. I said this last year but I REALLY mean it this year-if your favorite does not do well, do not take it personally for you or her. How the hell does anyone succeed in a system with three judges? We got this news 9 days before the pageant is to begin, and we still don't know about final night judges. I really suspect that nobody wants to take this on a week during the holidays.

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Date Posted: 23:05:36 12/16/19 Mon

>Maybe I should watch these in smaller doses, because I
>seemed to enjoy them more this time around. Here's
>what I thought. We still are missing some, Maine and
>Virginia are not available, some more need audio like
>PA and RI.
>
>OH-has audio now. I do like that she made this about
>women in general and not the typical MAOspeak. I also
>like that we get to know her personally. And woo
>hoo-someone said that someone else was their personal
>Miss America besides her mom! I am actually looking
>for good things from Ohio after seeing this video.
>Well done. I feel she is very relatable.
>OK-She is cute. I think she is well-spoken-not the
>sing-song speak. Certainly has the MAOspeak, but I do
>think she is not pageanty. I’m not sure I see the
>“it” factor that I have been hearing about with
>her, but I think she is top 15.
>SC-she is telegenic. I think she speaks well-clear
>and articulate. A lot of MAOspeak, but she does have
>something that makes you notice her.
>SD-So she’s Miss South Dakota (sorry, see my post
>below). Her tone was a bit flat, but I do appreciate
>her own personal story, and I think it is very
>relevant. If you want to make this about relating to
>young women, help them deal with the realities of
>college. I know lot of people who struggled in high
>school with the impending changes and then with the
>adjustment to college, feeling confused, etc. I also
>appreciated her love for her local community.
>TX-I paid close attention to this as many people think
>she is going to win. Based on what we saw working at
>Miss Universe with regards to “beauty” and all of
>that, I wouldn’t be surprised if she won. As far as
>this video, she speaks well, but I don’t see her as
>better or worse than anyone else I’ve heard. She is
>convincing and she believes in what she is saying, but
>she’s also a bit soft-spoken. I get a story, but
>I’m not getting the charisma that would win. But
>again, I think this story could win it for her.
>It’s what MAO is saying, it’s not about beauty.
>UT-A bit shy and reserved, I thought. I like her, but
>like with some of the others, she’s going to have to
>pick it up a little bit if she wants to make the top
>15.
>VT-I liked this. I liked the fact that she didn’t
>spit out talking points and stated the “message”
>in a unique way. She’s very conversational and
>natural.
>WA-she’s very telegenic. A little pageanty, but she
>does seem well-spoken.
>WV-average, a bit sing-song, though I appreciated her
>story about her platform
>WI-I liked that she spoke about her platforms and that
>we got to know her personally. That is what I am
>looking for with these videos, not just repeating
>MAOspeak.
>
>And I am correct that there are only going to be three
>judges this year? Three? Is this for the
>preliminaries or the finals? I don't know what to say
>here. I don't know if nobody wanted to do this, if
>they waited until the last minute and this is all they
>could do. Or, do they think this is actually a good
>idea? I don't think that there should be any less
>than six judges on a panel. With three judges if you
>get one judge who is not on board with you, you're
>done. And with all of these judging changes, three
>judges should not be shaping everything. I heard back
>in 02 when Erika Harold won that one of the judges
>said they had no idea what they were really voting for
>and ended up voting for her because they thought Miss
>America should be academically oriented. But at least
>they had a full judging panel. This is a disaster
>waiting to happen. I said this last year but I REALLY
>mean it this year-if your favorite does not do well,
>do not take it personally for you or her. How the
>hell does anyone succeed in a system with three
>judges? We got this news 9 days before the pageant is
>to begin, and we still don't know about final night
>judges. I really suspect that nobody wants to take
>this on a week during the holidays.
[> Subject: You can find them all on Youtube under the username Brian Penny.


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Date Posted: 01:10:32 12/17/19 Tue

>Maybe I should watch these in smaller doses, because I
>seemed to enjoy them more this time around. Here's
>what I thought. We still are missing some, Maine and
>Virginia are not available, some more need audio like
>PA and RI.
>
>OH-has audio now. I do like that she made this about
>women in general and not the typical MAOspeak. I also
>like that we get to know her personally. And woo
>hoo-someone said that someone else was their personal
>Miss America besides her mom! I am actually looking
>for good things from Ohio after seeing this video.
>Well done. I feel she is very relatable.
>OK-She is cute. I think she is well-spoken-not the
>sing-song speak. Certainly has the MAOspeak, but I do
>think she is not pageanty. I’m not sure I see the
>“it” factor that I have been hearing about with
>her, but I think she is top 15.
>SC-she is telegenic. I think she speaks well-clear
>and articulate. A lot of MAOspeak, but she does have
>something that makes you notice her.
>SD-So she’s Miss South Dakota (sorry, see my post
>below). Her tone was a bit flat, but I do appreciate
>her own personal story, and I think it is very
>relevant. If you want to make this about relating to
>young women, help them deal with the realities of
>college. I know lot of people who struggled in high
>school with the impending changes and then with the
>adjustment to college, feeling confused, etc. I also
>appreciated her love for her local community.
>TX-I paid close attention to this as many people think
>she is going to win. Based on what we saw working at
>Miss Universe with regards to “beauty” and all of
>that, I wouldn’t be surprised if she won. As far as
>this video, she speaks well, but I don’t see her as
>better or worse than anyone else I’ve heard. She is
>convincing and she believes in what she is saying, but
>she’s also a bit soft-spoken. I get a story, but
>I’m not getting the charisma that would win. But
>again, I think this story could win it for her.
>It’s what MAO is saying, it’s not about beauty.
>UT-A bit shy and reserved, I thought. I like her, but
>like with some of the others, she’s going to have to
>pick it up a little bit if she wants to make the top
>15.
>VT-I liked this. I liked the fact that she didn’t
>spit out talking points and stated the “message”
>in a unique way. She’s very conversational and
>natural.
>WA-she’s very telegenic. A little pageanty, but she
>does seem well-spoken.
>WV-average, a bit sing-song, though I appreciated her
>story about her platform
>WI-I liked that she spoke about her platforms and that
>we got to know her personally. That is what I am
>looking for with these videos, not just repeating
>MAOspeak.
>
>And I am correct that there are only going to be three
>judges this year? Three? Is this for the
>preliminaries or the finals? I don't know what to say
>here. I don't know if nobody wanted to do this, if
>they waited until the last minute and this is all they
>could do. Or, do they think this is actually a good
>idea? I don't think that there should be any less
>than six judges on a panel. With three judges if you
>get one judge who is not on board with you, you're
>done. And with all of these judging changes, three
>judges should not be shaping everything. I heard back
>in 02 when Erika Harold won that one of the judges
>said they had no idea what they were really voting for
>and ended up voting for her because they thought Miss
>America should be academically oriented. But at least
>they had a full judging panel. This is a disaster
>waiting to happen. I said this last year but I REALLY
>mean it this year-if your favorite does not do well,
>do not take it personally for you or her. How the
>hell does anyone succeed in a system with three
>judges? We got this news 9 days before the pageant is
>to begin, and we still don't know about final night
>judges. I really suspect that nobody wants to take
>this on a week during the holidays.


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