Thank you! I thought perhaps it was, and I think it is interesting this year in particular because I think it could have legitimately gone to any of the top 3 this year. It is not always like that, but this year I think it was. -- The Unofficial Unmoderated MAO Message Board

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Subject: Thank you! I thought perhaps it was, and I think it is interesting this year in particular because I think it could have legitimately gone to any of the top 3 this year. It is not always like that, but this year I think it was.

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Date Posted: 13:37:00 01/15/24 Mon
In reply to: 's message, "It was a final 5 ballot" on 12:52:18 01/15/24 Mon

>>Good morning everyone!
>>
>>Full post coming later this afternoon, but I wanted to
>>ask or note:
>>
>>The scoring was explained that each competition would
>>be scored 25 percent to make a top 5. However, it was
>>never explained if the final 5 was scored via ranking,
>>ballot, or total points scored? Did anyone hear that,
>>or was it never explained? It really was never a big
>>explanation on final night at previous Miss Americas,
>>but this year I really do not think that it was
>>explained.

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[> [> Subject: Never been a fan of "vote of the heart"
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:12:58 01/15/24 Mon

[> [> [> Subject: I think overall, it is better to have the winner as the one with the most points at the end of the night. I realize the rationale is that you don't want to get someone who is "not good for the job" but I think ranking is difficult because different judges with different opinions are going to net different results. It is a "job" these days but I think whoever scores the most points already demonstrates that they have qualities that get them noticed. If you can express your charisma without words I think you would be a great Miss America.

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Date Posted: 14:27:31 01/15/24 Mon

[> [> [> [> Subject: To be 100% clear- they used a final ballot where they write the name based on who they want to win Miss America. It’s not longer based on points then. Correct?
Author: No Name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 03:40:58 01/16/24 Tue

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: The history of final ballot (vote of the heart) stems in racism. It was a way to ensure a white girl was picked (this was 50/60 years ago). It was removed for a while and brought back with Gretchen. Each judge ranks the girl in the order they see fit: Miss State X-1st; State L-2nd etc. 1st gets 10 points, 5th gets 1..each girl is totalled and the highest score wins. So it is mathmatically possible for someone to win w/o getting 1st from each judge. This panel had to do final ballot, did they do it this way, or as suggested - just write their winner on a piece of paper,,,who knows

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Date Posted: 12:08:16 01/16/24 Tue

[> [> [> [> Subject: I personally love ballot because it’s the only time the panel can ACTUALLY take into account the “human factor” - a titleholder has to be someone people are drawn to. I like that final ballot allows judges to look at the girls and go “okay, we know who probably has the highest point total - but do I *like* her?” It’s an important aspect because you can’t rank charisma 1-10, and this year it was especially important since the interview score didn’t carry. I think we got a Miss America this year who embodies what the national titleholder is supposed to be - beautiful, accomplished, intelligent - but in a way that is aspirational, not intimidating. Her resume is STACKED but rather than inferior, I look at her and go - well, if she can, I can too! And my daughters could! Food for thought :)

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Date Posted: 15:33:31 01/16/24 Tue