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Subject: Basically, if you feel better about yourselves "calling out" someone you feel finagled their way to a win, then carry on. It just shows more about your character than hers. Life isn't fair. And btw, let's hope if your daughter does win, that we all share the "dirt" on her as well.


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Date Posted: 06:54:33 08/26/15 Wed
In reply to: 's message, "I'm aware that Illinois America has many more components than USA, which is solely based on looks, but I'm a little confused. If it is heavily based on talent, how are some people able to win? It all just seems so random. How was Rayni (who I met at Illinois USA) not in the top 5? Someone posted the top 10 or something on here and I thought maybe she just didn't compete this year? I've never seen her talent, but she is ridiculously beautiful and a really cool girl. I have a friend who is stunning and a professional dancer not place at a local level pageant for Illinois too. The judging confuses me." on 11:39:12 08/23/15 Sun


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Actually, telling the truth about someone of questionable character doesn't say anything about my character. It's a nice thought for those who want to justify their choices, but no. It's not a "feeling" that Crystal manipulated the truth about her education, nor that she did the same about her platform. It's not a "feeling" that she didn't place in the top 10 last year, nor did she win a single prelim this year. Those are all facts. The point is that understanding why it happened is imperative to making sure it doesn't happen again as we're rebuilding the program. I personally care about the quality and character of the girls we send to MA. If you don't, that says more about you than it does about me. (NT)No name08:56:23 08/26/15 Wed

For months, people have come on this board in droves to rehash every sin AS ever committed. Many people in the organization had negative interactions with her and are still having a hard time letting it go, rightfully so. Others had a negative experience at state because the judges selected someone that many have issues with seeing as Miss Illinois because she lied and cut corners. When young women give their all and a winner is selected that they feel doesn't appropriately represent the title, that can be heartbreaking and hard to get over, rightfully so. The new Miss Illinois is someone's daughter, but so is AS and her bad behavior didn't just happen over night. It likely started when she was much younger with lying, cutting corners and not being held accountable. Behavior like her's always starts that way. The point is that we all have a different experience in this organization, but bad behavior, whether it is coming from AS or from a titleholder, is offensive. (NT)No name09:36:43 08/26/15 Wed


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