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ILLINOIS Pageants Board for Teen, Miss, Ms and Mrs
Subject: Did I dream this or is it true? Amalia and Glenn have resigned from the board.


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Date Posted: 09:57:38 05/29/15 Fri

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Subject: Miss ILOT Contestants


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Date Posted: 08:14:11 05/29/15 Fri


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Subject: Amanda G. got booted from the bachelor on night 1.


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Date Posted: 07:14:02 05/29/15 Fri

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Subject: Miss Illinois America is Approaching!!! Top 10 picks?


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Date Posted: 07:10:59 05/29/15 Fri

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Subject: Who won Miss Metro East/Midwest? How was the competition?


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Date Posted: 07:03:20 05/29/15 Fri

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Subject: Miss Metro East/ Miss Midwest this weekend?


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Date Posted: 07:02:42 05/29/15 Fri

Does anyone know the contestants yet, and if anyone is a standout to win? What's up with two titles?
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Subject: Miss Illinois USA


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Date Posted: 07:02:08 05/29/15 Fri

Where are Megan Reisner and Renee Wronecki? You don't see or hear much from either one. Even their facebook pages are rarely updated. I was expecting something new from Vanbros. What's happening?
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Subject: What are the 3 best MAO prelim pageants to compete in? Who has the best directors/scholarships/reputation at state? By next prelims I will have aged out of teen and moved up to the miss division and want to try MAO. PLEASE ANSWER WITH HONESTY AND BACK UP YOUR ANSWERS.


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Date Posted: 07:01:33 05/29/15 Fri

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Subject: Illinois County Fair Pageant


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Date Posted: 07:01:01 05/29/15 Fri

The Illinois County Fair Pageant is in a few weeks. Will Summer Robbins compete for Miss Illinois after she gives up her fair queen title? She would do very well representing Illinois!
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Subject: Miss Heart of the USA Nationals


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Date Posted: 07:00:24 05/29/15 Fri

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Subject: Coaches


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Date Posted: 05:53:35 05/29/15 Fri

Can you all post any information on Pageant Coaches in the Chicago area, ones with proven success in Miss Americas Outstanding Teen or even Miss America. Moving in June from Florida and my daughter will need a coach she was top 10 twice so need some one who can take over
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Subject: Be Brave. Post Marissa's letter here.


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Date Posted: 23:28:41 05/28/15 Thu

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Subject: Saw this on the Sash Factor. (Direct from voyager systems - owner of all voy boards) Post at your own risk, but you are not anonymous.


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Date Posted: 23:27:56 05/28/15 Thu

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Subject: Ms Franks


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Date Posted: 12:52:32 05/27/15 Wed

pour your former Director a drink she is going to need one!!!
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Subject: WOULD YOU PEOPLE GET A LIFE !!!!


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Date Posted: 10:20:52 05/27/15 Wed

IF YOU SPENT THIS MUCH TIME GETTING INVOLVED IN THE PROGRAM AS YOU DO POLICING IT WITH GOSSIP, HEARSAY AND WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW, IT WOULD TRULY BE THE BEST STATE PROGRAM.
MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO ASK SOMEONE WHO REALLY KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON, HAVE YOUR BACK UP PAPERWORK AND KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. ALL OF YOU SPEAK OF SHADY BEHIND DOOR DEALINGS , PERSONAL ATTACKS BUT YOUR TOO MUCH OF A COWARD TO SIGN YOUR NAME TO YOUR BOGUS COMMENTS, SO WHO IS SHADY NOW? IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ALL THE INFO JUST LET IT GO!
BULLYING? REALLY? IS THAT NOT THE PLATFORM FOR SO MANY OF OUR GIRLS? DO THEY NOT SPEAK OF IT IN INTERVIEW? IT IS ALMOST A CONSTANT QUESTION PROPOSED MAYBE SOME OF YOU SHOULD LOOK IT UP IN THE DICTIONARY OR ASK YOUR DAUGHTERS TO EXPLAIN IT TO YOU. THEY SEEM TO BE MORE MATURE !
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Subject: Board Procedures


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Date Posted: 06:56:20 05/27/15 Wed

Here's a thought. Since this is an organization that promotes education, try taking a cue from school boards. Send the entire board to a seminar on non-profit and/or educational policy to learn how these organizations function legally. Term limits, new board members voted in each year or every other year, voted on by the constituents of the ISA (i.e. The local directors). Post monthly meeting minutes, including financial records. Send newsletters with important information. Have occasional open forum meetings to hear what people want and need within the organization. Communicate honestly about why decisions are made instead of leaving it up to speculation. If there is nothing to hide, why is so much kept secret. Yes there will be things that are scrutinized, but at least people will be informed and heard. This is the way so many school boards and successful non-profits are run.
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Subject: Threats of legal action if IPs are not provided by Voy moderators-- NO VALIDITY!


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Date Posted: 04:02:41 05/27/15 Wed

The moderator of the Sash Factor has posted that someone has emailed them threatening legal action (a law suit) if they do not give them the IPs to posts there.

PLEASE KNOW IT IS AN IDLE THREAT. IL is just trying to bully the IPs out of the mod so they can attack those who are calling them out.

And what are they going to sue for? Seriously. They can sue away and the first thing the mod will ask for is financial records for the last 10 years and a long, detailed deposition regarding the business practices in IL. THEY WILL NEVER DO IT, as they would be exposing themselves.

Google "how to use an internet proxy" so your IP is not revealed on any post you make.
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Subject: Kate Shindle


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Date Posted: 19:36:50 05/26/15 Tue

if Miss America was fixed for Kate Shindle why did it takes four years and four locals for her to win? Such BS. We all know who started that mess because she lost the Miss Chicago franchise. She should have been banned permanently!

Subject: An open letter to Amalia and Glenn


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Date Posted: 13:55:49 05/26/15 Tue

As of writing we do not know if you have resigned or not. We all do know that you should.

You have lost any ability to lead this program. There is no credibility left in your statements. We are all fatigued with your drama. "You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!" - Oliver Cromwell

Subject: I understand that former Miss America, Teresa Scanlon, spoke with the Miss IL contestants. What was the content of her message? Thank you.


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Date Posted: 01:48:41 05/26/15 Tue


Subject: Anyone think they really weren't fired now? This was just posted on one of their Facebook pages. Lets make a difference.


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Date Posted: 13:16:08 05/25/15 Mon

https://www.change.org/p/miss-illinois-past-and-present-volunteers-contestants-families-and-concerned-citizens-remove-the-miss-illinois-scholarship-association-board-chairman-and-treasurer
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Subject: so can we become a 501(c)3 now....


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Date Posted: 13:02:51 05/25/15 Mon

Can the Board please consider becoming a 501(c)3 so there is financial accountability? 501(c)3 are required to provide financials online at all times. If Miss MN can do it so can we... Plus I mean now we can finally offer sponsors tax deductible benefits which might be useful. Miss IL is currently a 501(c)4 your donations are not tax deductible. Why would a sponsor donate high priced items like a car? Or an apartment for a year? We need to think large picture and help get the organization financially back on its feet with accountability.

Just a thought for the board to consider!
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Subject: ISA Board did NOT vote on the Dismissal of Three Local IL Directors.


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Date Posted: 12:15:13 05/25/15 Mon

In regards to a previous question asking how a certain Board Member "decided to vote in regards to the recent dismissal of the Three directors":

The Members simply were not given a vote. This decision was made without notifying or consulting with the ISA Board as a whole.

Source: A Friend to the Cause
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Subject: Local Titkeholders


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Date Posted: 12:05:59 05/25/15 Mon

maybe it's time for the locals to keep their contestants at home. No contestants no pageant. Illinois has suffered long enough. MAO has no balls!

Subject: Be Careful Illinois Volunteers


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Date Posted: 09:37:30 05/25/15 Mon

What happened to Cara, Vanessa and Rachel can happen to you. MAO has stood by and looked the other way for 9 years.
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Subject: Just look at this board.


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Date Posted: 08:29:09 05/25/15 Mon

There is nothing on here about the wonderful contestants in the upcoming pageant.

It is all about sour grapes, unqualified past directors, and the meanest pageant moms I have ever seen.

Shame on you.
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Subject: OMG. ladies????


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Date Posted: 23:28:50 05/24/15 Sun

Read the thread of comments from top to bottom. This is truly disgusting . It's Miss Illinois....Miss America!!... not a back room bar fight for God's sake. You should all be ashamed of yourselves...do you realize how you sound? What's funny, most comments are from adults! Get a life ....if you do not like what you see or hear find out the circumstances first as for every reaction there is usually an action that took place. You are all speaking out of turn WITH NO CLUE and may I say making the program look really pathetic. I encourage everyone to shut it and volunteer to get involved and make a movement to make it positive not negative. Face it you are not helping your cause at all. Realize,Without even speaking with a microphone. ...witnessing outside unprofessional gossip, hearsay in corners and whispers are heard anyway why give bad apples a live forum to speak to taint the good ones. Think! If you have something to say use better judgment , in the end the girls seem to have more sense then the, adults. Bullying is so Un lady like. Shame shame!
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Subject: New Miss Illinois Team


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Date Posted: 21:12:46 05/24/15 Sun

Who do you think would be interested in coming back if Amalia and Glen are removed? Is anyone willing to come back as a new team or are most of the people who have been ousted pretty much fed up with MAO as a whole? I'd be interested to hear people's thoughts on who should or would come back. A lot of great people were lost in the last 9 years, I for one would like to see many of them back to help!
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Subject: Monitor


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Date Posted: 08:01:40 05/24/15 Sun

Whoever doing the monitoring, please follow your guidelines at the top of page.....This is not the "PERSONAL ATTACKS ON CONTESTANTS, TITLEHOLDERS AND DIRECTORS" board. People have opinions and we encourage you to share them. However, if your opinion and subsequently your comment posting serves no purpose other than to cause distress, also known as BULLYING, then you will be banned from posting. This whole site is only a bullying forum. Here is what said at top to refresh...
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Subject: Miss Chicago/Windy City/Gold Coast Directors Fired!


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Date Posted: 23:13:53 05/23/15 Sat

I understand that Cara, Vanessa and Rachel were fired via email from the Board Chair of the Miss Illinois Program immediately after Spring Forum. How does that happen? Why would an organization do something like that and allow three Miss Contestants and their outstanding teens to compete at the State Pageant in a few weeks without a local director. Cara, Vanessa and Rachel seem like great champions of the program to me, what did they do that was so bad that they had to be fired now, this close to the state pageant?

What accommodations are being made for their contestants? I also wonder who decides this? Did the entire Miss Illinois Board vote to take this action? Was a special meeting called? Did Jane Ann, the Executive Director have any input? I am very shocked and surprised by this and am wondering if someone could enlighten me on the protocol for firing local directors two weeks before the Miss Illinois Pageant.

Thanks,
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