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Subject: Pageant death


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Date Posted: 14:55:38 12/15/25 Mon
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Former Miss Nebraska-USA 1957 (then known as Miss Nebraska Universe), Carolyn Dean McGirr Coleman passed away after an eight-year battle with Alzheimer's on Friday, December 12, 2025 at age 86 in North Carolina.

She was third runner-up to Miss USA that year when Miss Maryland-USA, Mary Leona Gage was dethroned days later when pageant officials in Long Beach, California learned that she was not only married, but the mother of two sons, and not 21 but actually 18 years young.

First runner-up, Miss Utah-USA, Charlotte Sheffield assumed the Miss United States of America title (now known as Miss USA), but it was too late for her to compete at Miss Universe. Thus 1957 was the only year when the USA was not represented at Miss Universe in the pageant's history.

Due to the dethroning, Charlotte (who died in 2016) and all three runners-up had their placements moved up, thus Carolyn Dean McGirr, the original fourth runner-up, became the Miss USA third runner-up in 1957.

Due to Carolyn's health condition, it is too bad that she was unware that one of her Miss Nebraska-USA successors (Audrey Jolynn Eckert) became Miss USA 2025 in October and competed at Miss Universe last month in Thailand. Condolences to the family.

http://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/name/carolyn-coleman-obituary?id=60294329
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_USA_1957
http://www.alamy.com/leona-gage-center-a-raven-haired-beauty-from-glen-birney-md-poses-with-the-four-runners-up-after-she-was-named-miss-usa-in-a-preliminary-phase-of-the-miss-universe-contest-at-long-beach-california-on-july-17-1957-she-competed-as-miss-maryland-left-to-right-are-miss-nebraska-carolyn-mcgirr-fifth-miss-west-virginia-ruth-marie-parr-third-miss-usa-miss-utah-charlotte-sheffield-second-and-miss-nevada-joan-adams-fourth-ap-photohf-image525580460.html

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Subject: Were gowns shared among contestants as it was mentioned that Susan Akin wore a finals night gown that someone had worn in a state competition?


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Date Posted: 14:21:01 12/15/25 Mon
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Subject: Who Competed The Most


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Date Posted: 07:19:41 11/28/25 Fri
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This is about Miss America winners. Which Miss America competed the most at state before winning the state.

For example. Carolyn Sapp competed at Miss Hawaii 4 X

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Subject: Which Miss America


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Date Posted: 16:28:00 12/13/25 Sat
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Who won their state title on the first try and went on to win Miss America

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Subject: Watching The Queen of Versailles documentary…


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Date Posted: 19:03:17 12/14/25 Sun
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Has Robin reached out to David Siegel? He’s local to Orlando, used to host the contestants at his residence in Vegas. He says he loves Miss America, and gave $25,000 on the spot to MAO in 2009.

I think he could be convinced to get involved again.

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Subject: I love having a talented Miss America! I hope this might encourage Robin to emphasize talent, and possibly raise the percentage!


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Date Posted: 15:50:16 12/12/25 Fri
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Subject: Old ,but I Never Knew This


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Date Posted: 11:31:50 12/10/25 Wed
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It has been a hard couple of months for a pageant built on smiles. In December, the people who run the Miss America Organization threatened to leave their home here, grumbling about a lack of support from the city. And now, the complaints are coming from Miss America's own family.

The parents of Miss America 2002, Katie Harman, have sent an eight-page letter to the pageant's board of directors, complaining about their treatment at the hands of pageant officials. They said that their daughter was not getting enough bookings, that she hated the idea of a Miss America slot machine and that she was being treated by Miss America officials as a mere employee.
Ms. Harman, 21, a college student, was traveling and unavailable for comment, pageant officials said.

A copy of the letter, dated Feb. 3, was provided by the Miss America chief executive, Robert Renneisen Jr., in response to a request. In it, Glen and Darla Harman said their daughter was forced to pay $750 for clothing alterations and was billed $2,248 for a post-crowning party at Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort.
He said Ms. Harman's bookings, slow at first because of Sept. 11-related delays, had picked up recently and that she was on pace to earn $250,000 or more in appearance fees during her reign.

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Subject: The new Miss Universe


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Date Posted: 15:04:02 11/29/25 Sat
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While I'm not sure about the legitimacy of Mexico's win, I am surprised that no one has talked about her gown.
I personally love all sequin dresses, but her dress was, let's face it, atrocious.
While I don't care for the handkerchiefs many of the others were wearing, Fatima's dress was the most Mother of the Bride looking that I've ever seen win an International pageant.
I'm surprised that her team put her in that from the beginning.
Did she have a different dress in the preliminaries?
BTW, this is no slam to her personally.
I think she is a beautiful woman that may have won on merit alone, but I'm just surprised that she moved forward in that dress.

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Subject: Revisited: Pageant people and companies we don't hear about anymore


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Date Posted: 00:33:27 12/15/25 Mon
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WEHT:

Jennifer Reed (former Miss Michigan USA and former owner of Beauties of America pageant.)

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Anyone know the status of Pageantry Magazine? I have heard several stories they are out of business but someone told me they are still publishing.

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Whatever happened to the Miss Teen America pageant? It seemed like they dropped off the face of the earth.

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Who else?!?

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Subject: Miss America 2023


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Date Posted: 19:44:46 12/12/25 Fri
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For those who wish to see and hear former Miss Wisconsin 2022 and Miss America 2023, Grace Marie Stanke Vanderhei
(a 2023 UW-Madison nuclear graduate) appear as the special guest key-note speaker on Sunday morning at the University of Wisconsin-Madison 2025 winter graduation event, see this link to the live-stream video:
http://commencement.wisc.edu

The 2025 winter graduation ceremony in Madison, Wisconsin starts at 11:00 am Eastern time/10:00 am Central time on Sunday, December 14, 2025.

Grace, who got married in Montana in early August to her UW-Madison classmate Ridge Vanderhei, served two years as Miss Madison 2020 during the COVID-19 pandemic era when there wasn't a Miss Madison pageant in 2021. Then in 2022, as state-open sweeps Miss Badgerland, Grace, a violinist, won Miss Wisconsin on her second attempt. Grace will speak about 30 minutes into the winter graduation program.
http://news.wisc.edu/miss-america-2023-grace-vanderhei-to-address-winter-graduates/
http://badgerherald.com/news/campus/2025/11/22/qa-get-to-know-uws-winter-2025-commencement-speaker/

Now, when was the last time you saw or heard of a former (or even current) Miss America speak at any college/university graduation, let alone at their own alma mater?

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Subject: Cassie’s homecoming was amazing!! Good job to whomever put it together.


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Date Posted: 12:11:39 11/22/25 Sat
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Subject: From Miss America email alert


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Date Posted: 20:06:46 12/12/25 Fri
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For those who got the Miss America email alert on Thursday, and for those who did not, you all can see this:



Miss America to Attend Army-Navy Game in Baltimore

[BALTIMORE, Maryland] December 11, 2025--The Miss America Organization is pleased to announce that Miss America 2026, Cassandra "Cassie" Donegan, will attend the 2025 Army–Navy Game at M&T Bank Stadium—--also known as “America’s Game”—in Baltimore, Maryland, as a guest of USAA.

The Saturday, December 13 matchup continues one of the nation’s most storied traditions, pitting the U.S. Military Academy at West Point (Black Knights) against the U.S. Naval Academy at Annapolis (Midshipmen).

This year marks the rivalry’s 126th meeting and the seventh time the game has been hosted in Baltimore. Miss America 2026, Cassandra "Cassie" Donegan of New York is honored to attend as a guest of USAA, the Presenting Sponsor of the Army–Navy Game and a proud supporter of the matchup since 2009.

As part of the weekend’s festivities, Cassie will perform the national anthem at USAA’s Rendezvous Point—the inaugural, free two-day fan fest at the Inner Harbor and Harborplace Mall. The event will serve as a premier destination for Army and Navy fans as well as the Baltimore community, featuring game-themed programming, interactive experiences, live music, fireworks, and more to build excitement leading up to kickoff.

Cassie will also participate in media interviews, a meet-and-greet in the USAA VIP Member Lounge, and enjoy the game from the USAA Influencer Suite.

As the proud daughter of a United States Navy firefighter veteran, Cassie carries the stories and sacrifices of military families close to her heart.

Attending America’s Game is a deeply meaningful moment—an opportunity to honor the service members and families whose courage, commitment, and sacrifice define this legendary tradition.

First played in 1890, the Army–Navy series has been held annually since 1930, including throughout World War II. Navy currently leads the series with 63 wins, followed by Army with 55, and seven contests ending in a tie.


-----Notice the press alert fails to provide the time the football game will be on television, and which channel. It will be a5 3:00 pm Eastern time/2:00 pm Central time airing on most CBS affiliates across the country. Watch for Cassie, maybe she will get the honors to toss the coin just before the game.

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Subject: curious what happened to the Miss Georgia voy board?


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Date Posted: 20:45:49 12/13/25 Sat
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curious what happened to the Miss Georgia voy board?

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Subject: Will there be a new Miss Nebraska and Miss Missouri Teen be replaced?


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Date Posted: 11:22:27 11/25/25 Tue
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Subject: Is Cassie at the Macy’s parade?


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Date Posted: 09:30:34 11/27/25 Thu
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I love seeing Miss America on the float! Is she there this year? Would be a great opportunity for a New Yorker!

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Subject: Miss Mississippi history question


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Date Posted: 18:44:51 11/24/25 Mon
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How many times did Kathy Manning, Wanda Gail Geddy and Diane Evans compete? Did they place? Did they have runner- ups that went on to win?

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Subject: any status updates on Glen vs Robin?


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Date Posted: 20:08:58 12/11/25 Thu
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Subject: Miss Jamaica Suffered a Fracture, Intracranial Hemorrhage and More Injuries After Serious Fall from Miss Universe Stage


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Date Posted: 11:24:44 12/08/25 Mon
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Subject: Talents that should have been televised including Marissa Laakso and Diana Reed.


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Date Posted: 23:51:47 11/30/25 Sun
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Subject: Does anyone have any confirmed MAO state competition dates yet?


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Date Posted: 20:07:25 12/04/25 Thu
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Subject: The Miss Universe Host Comments On The Pageant


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Date Posted: 15:32:39 12/03/25 Wed
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=kVof1elDC3s&si=TlhQVdf4CXdS-FX2

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Subject: CNN tv alert tonight


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Date Posted: 15:38:23 12/07/25 Sun
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Had I known before I just happened to see this on CNN last night, a similar tv alert would have been posted yesterday, especially since it seems no one here saw it to post on this Miss Universe guest appearance on this message board.

Some fans here complain about not seeing newly-crowned Miss America, Miss USA, and/or Miss Universe winners on American tv shows, talk shows, and late night comedy programs.

Well, here is your chanced to see the new Miss Universe on CNN this evening---if they show the same program, CNN's Jake Tapper Weekend Lead program, tonight Sunday night.

Miss Universe 2025, Fátima Bosch Fernández of Mexico will be the guest on this Jake Tapper Weekend Lead program that airs tonight on CNN at 9:00 pm Eastern/8:00 pm Central time.....but the nine-minute guest appearance of Fatima with Miss Universe video clips is actually 42 minutes into the show on CNN.

Watch tonight at 9:42 pm/8:42 pm Sunday, December 7th. Note---Jake did not even bother to ask Fatima how she pronounces her last name before going on air, and he even had to ask her what how old she is, like that would not be part of his briefing before he met her at the CNN studios? And Jake says he is a journalist??

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Subject: Who was The Last One


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Date Posted: 20:35:49 12/04/25 Thu
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Who was the last Miss America that stated she traveled over 20k a month on a speaking tour about her said platform?

You just don't hear that anymore when she gives up the crown

I Miss Miss America!!

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Subject: This is awkward!! MUO co-owner has assets frozen by the Mexican government as part of investigation. Click in for an article from ABC News.


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Date Posted: 09:43:24 12/06/25 Sat
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https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/wireStory/mexico-freezes-miss-universe-owners-bank-accounts-organized-128155984

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