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Subject: Miss Florida Predictions? Best guess Top 5: Anjelica Jones, Alexandra De Roos, Halee Burton, Jada Brown, Ireland Harkins -or- Megan Price.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:24:20 03/11/26 Wed (NoHost/142.136.0.149) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Very surprised to see Jones return after her social media tantrum after not winning last year. Should be ashamed to show her face in this system again. (NT) -- sore loser, 19:13:02 03/15/26 Sun (NoHost/172.58.2.193) Miss - Anjelica Jones. Teen - Kady McKenna. (NT) -- No name, 20:28:16 03/15/26 Sun (172-4-237-173.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/172.4.237.173) We don’t need someone who has a tantrum (NT) -- No name, 22:19:30 03/16/26 Mon (136.sub-174-227-84.myvzw.com/174.227.84.136)

Subject: Miss USA 2026 and Miss Teen USA 2026
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 02:14:24 03/06/26 Fri (NoHost/120.28.64.92) The 75th anniversary of Miss USA and the 44th Miss Teen USA will take place in August 20-28, 2026 in Miami, Florida. Post from Thom Brodeur/IG: https://www.instagram.com/p/DVhZmKdCfEh/ 2026 state pageants with confirmed dates AL: To be determined AK: June 28, 2026 AZ: June 13, 2026 AR: May 3, 2026 CA: To be determined CO: To be determined CT: May 24, 2026 DE: June 28, 2026 DC: To be determined FL: July 12, 2026 GA: To be determined HI: To be determined ID: To be determined IL: May 24, 2026 IN: June 28, 2026 IA: May 30, 2026 KS: June 7, 2026 KY: To be determined LA: To be determined ME: To be determined MD: To be determined MA: To be determined MI: To be determined MN: May 30, 2026 MS: To be determined MO: May 10, 2026 MT: To be determined NE: June 28, 2026 NV: To be determined NH: To be determined NJ: To be determined NM: To be determined NY: To be determined NC: June 28, 2026 ND: May 30, 2026 OH: To be determined OK: June 14, 2026 OR: To be determined PA: To be determined RI: To be determined SC: June 28, 2026 SD: May 30, 2026 TN: To be determined TX: To be determined UT: To be determined VT: To be determined VA: July 19, 2026 WA: To be determined WV: June 13, 2026 WI: May 30, 2026 WY: To be determined [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Hopefully it won't be interrupted by a Hurricane (NT) -- No name, 09:35:59 03/06/26 Fri (NoHost/172.56.3.139) MN is June 19, 2026 (not May) (NT) -- No name, 13:02:08 03/06/26 Fri (53.216.51.206.in-addr.arpa/206.51.216.53) Miss MN USA is MAY. Wrong pageant (NT) -- No name, 13:54:18 03/06/26 Fri (182-121-114-38.clients.gthost.com/38.114.121.182) The title of the post is for Miss USA… Not Miss America (NT) -- No name, 16:02:29 03/06/26 Fri (105.sub-174-218-222.myvzw.com/174.218.222.105) Sorry for the typo error. Will be reposted in a next update. (NT) -- No name, 16:22:16 03/06/26 Fri (27.49.15.141.convergeict.com/27.49.15.141) I apologize for this that the post is about Miss USA, not Miss America. My mistake. (NT) -- No name, 18:25:38 03/06/26 Fri (27.49.15.141.convergeict.com/27.49.15.141) The worse Hurricane to strike south Florida was Hurricane Andrew in Aug 1992 (NT) -- No name, 09:31:26 03/07/26 Sat (NoHost/172.58.240.181) So Miss NC America and Miss NC USA are the same weekend. Interesting. (NT) -- No name, 10:06:01 03/07/26 Sat (syn-107-013-036-240.res.spectrum.com/107.13.36.240) Where is NC USA held? Which city? (NT) -- No name, 15:22:03 03/07/26 Sat (33.sub-174-216-2.myvzw.com/174.216.2.33) Spartanburg, South Carolina. Not just NC, but SC itself as well. It's a bi-state pageant in both sides of the Carolinas like last year. (NT) -- No name, 17:58:53 03/07/26 Sat (27.49.15.141.convergeict.com/27.49.15.141) It is to say, SC has two different state pageants held the same weekend: SC (MAO) on 6/27 and SC USA on 6/28, but SC USA concurrently with NC USA. (NT) -- No name, 09:44:08 03/08/26 Sun (27.49.15.141.convergeict.com/27.49.15.141) Actually, SC (MAO) will be held a week earlier. My mistake and my apologies. (NT) -- No name, 09:46:50 03/08/26 Sun (27.49.15.141.convergeict.com/27.49.15.141) According to a comment on Instagram, the states that were appointed titles last year still do not have state directors this year. (NT) -- Anon, 05:28:00 03/10/26 Tue (96.sub-174-224-161.myvzw.com/174.224.161.96) ...........and which states are those that did not have a state franchise director for the Miss USA and Miss Teen-USA program? -- Thanks., 18:00:55 03/16/26 Mon (NoHost/144.92.78.242) Colorado, Idaho, Montana, New Hampshire, Oregon, Vermont, Washington and Wyoming were the states that had appointed titleholders at Miss USA 2025. (NT) -- Anon, 22:10:51 03/16/26 Mon (218.sub-174-226-63.myvzw.com/174.226.63.218) Will KY and OH be together again? That was so strange (NT) -- No name, 12:59:52 03/11/26 Wed (NoHost/128.163.239.191) I did not think it was strange. I am just happy that there is a pageant director for these states. (NT) -- No name, 13:52:20 03/11/26 Wed (NoHost/155.190.9.5)

Subject: Removed posting here
Author: Fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:21:18 03/02/26 Mon (syn-047-049-055-214.biz.spectrum.com/47.49.55.214) If you are going to just delete a posting I had two hours ago to a posting from someone last Friday about the PageantsHeyDay video website on YouTube, can you at least say why you took it and my response off as I too would like to get an email to reach the person who has Miss America state pageants on YouTube. They did not post a contact email on their "more" section of their PageantsHeyDay YouTube channel. Why would your remove such a posting by me (less than an hour after I belatedly saw the Friday posting inquiry) and the person who asked the original question of February 27th in asking readers here for contact email assistance?? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I believe it was by mistake and I do apologize for that. (NT) -- Moderator, 11:33:22 03/03/26 Tue (vpn.adh.arkansas.gov/170.94.15.253) Would you please repost it? (NT) -- No name, 14:19:24 03/03/26 Tue (syn-174-100-040-048.res.spectrum.com/174.100.40.48) ...What is now shown is basically what the person posted back last Friday---asking if any here would know the contact email address for -- the guy in Utah--or whoever it is---that has PageantsHeyDay on YouTube., 13:56:20 03/04/26 Wed (syn-047-049-055-214.biz.spectrum.com/47.49.55.214) I'll look to see if I have anything from years back as far as contact info that isn't just the You Tube link. . That gentleman provided a great historic resource (and gave us a lot of COVID era escape). If anyone does connect with him, please relate how grateful we still are for his work. (NT) -- No name, 23:56:24 03/04/26 Wed (133-111-106-149.in-addr.arpa.pulsefiber.org/149.106.111.133) I LOVE this guy's site. There are so many videos, it's hard to figure out what to watch. I like to pick a state and then start with the oldest year he has available and watch them in order....from oldest to newest. I had to make a special spread sheet to catalog everything he has by state, lol. (NT) -- No name, 16:48:47 03/05/26 Thu (244.sub-174-216-0.myvzw.com/174.216.0.244) ...Well I agree but also wonder how they/he got so many Miss America state pageant videos and other related pageant videos. They all could not have been from their personal collection. -- How did pageant fans send contact and then send them their old BETA or VHS pageant video tapes?, 17:52:52 03/05/26 Thu (syn-047-044-104-164.biz.spectrum.com/47.44.104.164) Back then, fans would meet at Miss America and at state pageants. They would then exchange their state pageant videos. I once met someone who had at least one pageant from all 50 states. He said it took him 15+ years to get them all (NT) -- No name, 22:15:50 03/05/26 Thu (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) During Covid when everyone was stuck at home and bored, many mailed this person whatever tapes or dvds they had and he converted them to digital uploads we could watch on YouTube. Very thankful for this person! (NT) -- No name, 22:53:57 03/05/26 Thu (NoHost/172.58.2.193) I think I read where he posted that he was done accepting tapes....I hope I'm mistaken. However, I doubt I ill ever get completely through his site. He really does deserve some recognition for doing all that work. (NT) -- No name, 22:59:09 03/05/26 Thu (244.sub-174-216-0.myvzw.com/174.216.0.244) .....Well the point is----pageant fans must have had a way to get in touch with this YouTube person at PageantsHeyDay---and even now, if they no longer accept more videos---how does anyone get in touch with them/him on any matter or question? -- Yes, COVID was a good time to post and watch pageant videos., 23:58:09 03/05/26 Thu (syn-047-044-104-164.biz.spectrum.com/47.44.104.164) If he is no longer accepting tapes, let's not bug him about it. Is there anyone else out there with the video/digital capability to take over or to post videos on another page? Would you be willing to do it? (NT) -- No name, 17:36:37 03/06/26 Fri (syn-174-100-040-048.res.spectrum.com/174.100.40.48) I did not read that the original poster said they wanted to email the person at PageantsHeyDay to send them tapes? It could be a request for a media interview or asking -- permission to use a PageantsHeyDay for something--or just ask a question., 20:24:21 03/07/26 Sat (syn-047-044-104-164.biz.spectrum.com/47.44.104.164) ....Hello all. Actually I was the one back on February 27th who posted here the message that the board moderator apologized for deleting---when I asked if anyone here may have or know where to find the contact email address for the person/persons who run the PageantsHeyDay pageant videos on YouTube. How interesting in now nearly two weeks since that posting, some responses, but not one person can answer what is their email address? And to answer an assumption--no, not inquiring in sending any tapes--just a question of tv ads within a pageant tape that -- shown on YouTube. But post an email if can to reach PageantsHeyDay on YouTube. Thank you., 21:06:02 03/12/26 Thu (NoHost/144.92.78.242) So it's pretty obvious that folks would have provided the email address to you if they had it, so you can assume they do not. (NT) -- Frankly, you sound entitled and rude., 16:56:34 03/14/26 Sat (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) That's exactly why I did not post the address. He is very rude and entitled. Does not even know how to spell "Please" and "Thank You." He really should try it. It can work magic! (NT) -- No name, 17:19:15 03/14/26 Sat (148.sub-174-216-5.myvzw.com/174.216.5.148) Funny, why you both, the last two of this message chain, feel to compelled to answer this person's posting with such a snarky non-reply? -- Keep your personal comments to yourself if you have nothing to add to that person's question., 12:46:12 03/15/26 Sun (NoHost/199.91.248.226) Well, since you seem to be the type that indulges rude and entitled behavior you can stick your comment up your you know where! You must be their mother. That's tge only way that I can fathom that you would excuse this person's entitled behavior. Now, did that add anything to the conversation. And, oh yeah....still not posting the address until I get a "please" or "thank you." (NT) -- No name, 14:25:04 03/15/26 Sun (148.sub-174-216-5.myvzw.com/174.216.5.148) You must be blind......the posting that I and others saw from Thursday, March 12th (five postings of mine today in response to your rude remarks) clearly said "thank you" as the very last two words of the posted comments. Why are you putting in such effort and time in your replies when it has nothing to do with you, nor you wish to assist the original poster with an email address for PageantsHeyDay owner on YouTube? But read the full posting before saying that -- person did not say "thank you" which you demand and feel entitled to., 17:32:42 03/16/26 Mon (NoHost/144.92.78.242) There are two of us who found this poster entitled and rude, so it's not an isolated reaction... you're the one going way too hard on this. We agree with each other. You disagree with us. As the world turns. You're actually the one getting nasty about it (insinuating the poster is blind, etc.). (NT) -- odd, 19:32:54 03/16/26 Mon (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) Don't tell the poster to say thank you and say they did not when they did in fact say "thank you" as the very last two words of their March 12 posting above, six message above. -- Its like read the post folks, and take note of what you hope they would say---and they did., 20:26:34 03/16/26 Mon (NoHost/144.92.78.242)

Subject: 250th Sashes
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:43:48 03/15/26 Sun (NoHost/172.58.2.193) Can someone tell Robin that the girls absolutely hate these sashes and feel like they are not being taken seriously in them. Many are not even wearing them but throwing them on for a picture and taking them right back off LOL. If she could only see the contestants group chat. Another fail on Robins part trying to be a dictator and making silly decisions [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I cannot believe Robin would make them wear something so juvenile. These are grown women not preteens. (NT) -- No name, 10:32:51 03/16/26 Mon (NoHost/157.230.92.31) As someone in the group chat, no one is complaining. Everyone actually loves them and we find the concept very cool and special we get to wear them. I don’t know what chat you are in but it is not ours. The only complaint is sometimes it can be challenging finding wardrobe but who actually cares? They are a really cool historical moment. But thanks for insulting us and saying we look childish when we like them. (NT) -- No name, 15:03:05 03/16/26 Mon (NoHost/98.159.233.43)

Subject: Does Miss VA have a voy board? If so can you provide link
Author: Candace [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 05:23:45 03/15/26 Sun (pool-74-110-111-243.nrflva.fios.verizon.net/74.110.111.243) Does the MISS VA have a voy board? If so can you provide thw link? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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They don't have one nor do they need one. The strongest local in Virginia and maybe beyond Virginia left and they are struggling to get contestants that are competitive and are struggling to get contestants at all. The state is falling apart. Leadership is extremely fractured, and the state titleholder better hold onto their seat for a poor experience dealing with a serial narcissist as a director. It will be a wild ride till leadership changes. (NT) -- NL, 12:18:09 03/16/26 Mon (NoHost/185.16.38.123) The leadership is not fractured. And Chip and Scott were great directors but to have tre (NT) -- No name, 14:53:34 03/16/26 Mon (186.sub-174-219-80.myvzw.com/174.219.80.186) (Pressed send too soon on accident) Chip and Scott were good directors but to have treated people the way they did on the way out discredits all of that. Miss VA is still one of the most awarded state titles in the organization. People need to stop throwing the word narcissist around when describing people who are not that. It discredits those who have dealt with real ones. VA, like many states, is doing a good job with resources they have - including leadership caring a lot about the program and the girls. (NT) -- No name, 14:59:00 03/16/26 Mon (186.sub-174-219-80.myvzw.com/174.219.80.186)

Subject: What was your BEST experience at a pageant (now that we have the "worst experience" thread going.)
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:16:28 01/08/26 Thu (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) Go!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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What happened to the previous post asking the same question? (NT) -- No name, 19:05:54 01/10/26 Sat (141.sub-174-218-222.myvzw.com/174.218.222.141) I am the original poster that asked that same question. What happened to that thread? (NT) -- No name, 20:52:12 01/10/26 Sat (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) All the negative back and forth was deleted. It had nothing to do with the posted topic. (NT) -- Moderator, 21:55:38 01/10/26 Sat (c-76-134-66-218.hsd1.ar.comcast.net/76.134.66.218) Thank you Moderator!! (NT) -- No name, 00:30:20 01/12/26 Mon (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) The Miss contestants were very welcoming to my teen daughter. They encouraged her to keep trying. It took several pageants but she finally won one. (NT) -- they were great role models, 16:54:04 01/13/26 Tue (24-230-142-219-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.142.219) Which pageant was this at? (NT) -- No name, 19:31:34 01/13/26 Tue (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) I absolutely loved Dream Girls USA. Did that pageant several times. Only issue I had was that you were competing with the younger age divisions for the top placements. (NT) -- No name, 19:36:50 01/13/26 Tue (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) I did the online pageant Miss American Achievement for a number of years -- No name, 01:04:11 02/03/26 Tue (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) Original poster here-I absolutely LOVED the Marmas Pageant in Las Vegas -- No name, 02:13:37 02/11/26 Wed (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) I really wish some of these old title that have been dormant would come back. Especially the National Pageant (Mrs. National America/Ms. National America/Miss Teen NA-etc) -- No name, 18:35:42 02/16/26 Mon (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) How long does a pageant have to be "out of business" before someone can claim the title and revive the business? Anyone know of pageants that came back this way? (NT) -- No name, 01:50:30 03/14/26 Sat (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) I remember about 5 (?) years ago someone tried to get Miss Teenage America back going. The woman worked for USPS but nothing ever came of it -- No name, 21:01:17 03/15/26 Sun (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) Anyone know what happened to the USA franchise for Miss World? Is it already done for? (NT) -- No updates or pageant info, 11:32:00 03/16/26 Mon (NoHost/76.146.55.90)

Subject: Which states have a great program?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:40:54 03/04/26 Wed (107-128-0-95.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net/107.128.0.95) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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.....I always liked the Miss Texas program---but most years it was the size of a telephone book--with 100-plus pages of contestant paid ads. I have seen and liked the programs from Miss North Carolina, Miss Maine MAO and also the Miss Oregon, Miss Florida, and Miss Hawaii MAO programs. -- I also liked the Miss Utah-USA and Miss Kansas-USA programs. Why do you ask?, 20:28:07 03/07/26 Sat (syn-047-044-104-164.biz.spectrum.com/47.44.104.164) Good one!!! (NT) -- No name, 23:52:34 03/07/26 Sat (216-24-92-182.unassigned.ntelos.net/216.24.92.182) South Dakota and I'll tell you why..... rarely do you see a contestant compete once and never again. They're loyal from teen through Miss. AND they have tons and tons of formers attend the state competition every year and many state and local titleholders continue to volunteer with the system. So much pride in that state. (NT) -- No name, 16:43:31 03/10/26 Tue (23.29.80.195.bbc.net/23.29.80.195) I read your South Dakota comments, but what does that have to do with the state program? -- What do repeat contestants and visiting formers have to do with the program book?, 18:54:28 03/10/26 Tue (syn-071-013-145-228.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.145.228) I read it as "what states have a great program" not "program book". (NT) -- No name, 19:08:37 03/10/26 Tue (23.29.80.195.bbc.net/23.29.80.195) I think some including myself felt the original posted question was about the pageant's published program books, even if the word "book" was not used. How often does anyone go to pageant or speak about ordering one, they usually say "do you have any programs left" -- or "what website sells the program"...etc. lol By the way, what are the SD MAO program books like?, 20:15:02 03/10/26 Tue (syn-071-013-145-228.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.145.228) The state program is the state program - not the book.... But this has turned into a great post! (NT) -- No name, 11:20:15 03/11/26 Wed (23.29.80.195.bbc.net/23.29.80.195) I read it the same way. Many people refer to their state pageant as thr program. If they meant a program book, they would have said program book. This person is just trying to bait you. Don't fall for it. (NT) -- No name, 22:00:47 03/10/26 Tue (181.sub-174-216-6.myvzw.com/174.216.6.181) It was obvious to me that the original question was sincerely asking which states run the best program. But then our second poster went off into his or her tangent about program books, which I took as an intentional joke. That is why I posted my "Good one" comment. (NT) -- No name, 23:43:16 03/10/26 Tue (216-24-92-182.unassigned.ntelos.net/216.24.92.182) Also SD won’t crown a pageant patty who is the clear winner but is clearly state hopping (NT) -- No name, 08:07:42 03/11/26 Wed (wkt-bband-152-38-106-90.wk.net/152.38.106.90) Miss NH is a huge scholarship program some locals are awarding $25,000. (NT) -- No name, 23:56:17 03/15/26 Sun (d-23-244-196-151.nh.cpe.atlanticbb.net/23.244.196.151)

Subject: Miss Universe spoke at Harvard last week, won't resign her title. Click in
Author: Anon [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:32:57 03/09/26 Mon (92.sub-174-226-80.myvzw.com/174.226.80.92) https://www.ndtv.com/lifestyle/fatima-bosch-defends-her-position-as-miss-universe-at-harvard-i-wont-resign-11185078/amp/1 [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Well, she might as well hang on to it because I feel pretty certain she is the last one. If Miss Universe Organization can rise above that debacle of a pageant last year, it will be amazing. It's not bad enough what happened leading up to the finale, but then to put a cherry on top, they crowned the one contestant out of over a hundred that could have made it look rigged. Then gave the home country first runner up for good measure.In real life, the cards just don't fall that way without a little behind the scenes manipulation. The whole thing starting from the "staged argument" to the crowning was a carefully constructed, but not very convincing, publicity ploy. Just like the fake "wrong winner" skit a few years before. You don't have to be that smart to see through their antics. (NT) -- No name, 10:19:58 03/09/26 Mon (181.sub-174-216-6.myvzw.com/174.216.6.181) It's your last sentence for me - 'You don't have to be that smart to see through their antics'. The worst part about all of this is that they barely put in any effort in concealing their riggory; so on top of everything else, it's a slap in our face as fans. (NT) -- Can't even put more effort into scamming us?, 10:44:23 03/09/26 Mon (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) Lol, thank you for appreciating my comment on this. You probably feel the same way that I do. It's bad enough that it's rigged, but I'm even more insulted that you think I'm too stupid to see what's going on. I once told an ex that I wasn't even upset that they were cheating, as far as I was concerned, good riddance to bad rubbish. What I am fighting mad about is the fact that you thought I was too dumb to see right through their shenanigans. (NT) -- No name, 14:38:04 03/10/26 Tue (181.sub-174-216-6.myvzw.com/174.216.6.181) Harvard didn't invite her to speak. A Mexican student organization invited her. Two different things. (NT) -- No name, 16:44:33 03/09/26 Mon (66-39-204-165.wansec.net/66.39.204.165) She should not have been a semi-finalist. She might have ruined it for good. (NT) -- no name, 00:38:14 03/11/26 Wed (3.sub-97-170-106.myvzw.com/97.170.106.3) I actually thought Cote d'Ivoire was a fantastic contestant. However, one thing I found odd. There was so much pre pageant coverage of her. I don't remember ever seeing that for another contestant from that country. Was that due to her Miss World placement? (NT) -- No name, 14:31:06 03/15/26 Sun (148.sub-174-216-5.myvzw.com/174.216.5.148)

Subject: A Florida local titleholder claims she was stripped of her title after refusing to sign a contract allegedly changing the definition of women who could compete at MAO. TMZ is reporting this story. Click in for the link.
Author: Anon [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 04:47:27 02/11/26 Wed (158.sub-174-226-101.myvzw.com/174.226.101.158) https://www.tmz.com/2026/02/11/kayleigh-bush-rips-miss-america-transgender-contract/ [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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She was a local titleholder in 2024, but just complaining about it now??? I wonder why her local contract didn't have the updated language to match state. My guess is this pearl-clutching arrow-minded bigot is just trying anything & everything to get an invite to the White House. (NT) -- No name, 13:17:46 02/11/26 Wed (NoHost/172.59.74.250) So, the titleholder has an arrow through her mind since you stated she is arrow-minded? (NT) -- No name, 08:49:31 02/12/26 Thu (c-73-255-122-212.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.255.122.212) Ok.....so I will put the name and title in the posted comments here since the original poster who wants everyone to know about the dethroning did not name her above....she is Kayleigh Bush, Miss North Florida 2026 or 2025 and he has already competed for Miss Florida last year?. -- Has she been to state before, and the resutls, and when did she win Miss North Florida?, 13:01:51 02/12/26 Thu (syn-047-049-055-214.biz.spectrum.com/47.49.55.214) Ok......so I will put the name and title in the posted comments here since the orginal poster who wants everyone to know about the dethroning.....she is Miss North Florida, Kayleigh Bush. -- Has she been to state before, and the resutls, and when did she win Miss North Florida?, 12:56:03 02/12/26 Thu (syn-047-049-055-214.biz.spectrum.com/47.49.55.214) Miss America should not expect her to be ok with trans women competing (NT) -- No name, 13:09:14 02/12/26 Thu (132.sub-174-227-81.myvzw.com/174.227.81.132) Good riddance to bad rubbage! The pageant has enough problems without letting in bigots. It's a shame she won, taking that crown from a REAL role model (NT) -- No name, 15:59:07 02/12/26 Thu (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) Amen. (NT) -- No name, 19:13:25 02/12/26 Thu (32-218-242-133.vng01.brpt.ct.ip.frontiernet.net/32.218.242.133) She is a real role model.Trans people have their own pageant (NT) -- No name, 17:36:18 02/15/26 Sun (56.sub-174-221-151.myvzw.com/174.221.151.56) No matter what side of the trans-in-pageant debate you lie, there is nothing role modelish about hate and bigotry. Nothing. She's as big an idiot as the anti-gay folks of the 90s and has no business in this pageant with that kind of attitude (NT) -- No name, 18:42:28 02/15/26 Sun (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) Those trans people are stealing spots from natural born females Why do people think that is ok? (NT) -- No name, 22:10:20 02/15/26 Sun (56.sub-174-221-151.myvzw.com/174.221.151.56) Oh get over yourself. They are not "stealing" anything, especially in a pageant. Maybe if this was a physical sport, you could have a point due to natural male strength. But this is a PAGEANT. A natural born female who loses to a man isn't trying hard enough hard. Come on. If a girl is at her best, there is very little if any chance she loses to a man. This is literally the only place where that argument is bupkis (NT) -- No name, 19:48:22 02/21/26 Sat (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) Trans people or at least some I (NT) -- No name, 01:47:37 03/11/26 Wed (3.sub-97-170-106.myvzw.com/97.170.106.3) Sorry about my mistake; I meant to say I've known a few trans people, and they are just as bigoted as anyone else. Many are anti-Christian and will never defend a religious person's rights the same as the latter keeping silent over the mistreatment of gays. (NT) -- As some sages say, "If you point a finger at another, there are three fingers pointing back at you., 01:54:20 03/11/26 Wed (3.sub-97-170-106.myvzw.com/97.170.106.3) That’s because Christians are amongst the worst people in the world. (NT) -- No name, 14:13:00 03/11/26 Wed (NoHost/172.58.165.49) And trans people aren't? (NT) -- no name, 17:26:48 03/11/26 Wed (3.sub-97-170-106.myvzw.com/97.170.106.3) Christians have committed genocide... (NT) -- No name, 23:22:49 03/11/26 Wed (syn-098-146-193-169.res.spectrum.com/98.146.193.169) More than non-Christians? Trans murderers have been in the news lately. Some think that trans peole are these delicate, feminine women wannabes; but they can send female sports players to the hospital and have already done so. They can beat up masculine men. Others believe that if they don't get their way, transsexuals will commit suicide and it's going to be our fault. Yeah, right! (NT) -- For such a tiny percentage to rule is nonsense and insane., 00:12:26 03/14/26 Sat (3.sub-97-170-106.myvzw.com/97.170.106.3) So all pageant winners need to liberals and be ok with this??? (NT) -- No name, 00:26:30 02/16/26 Mon (NoHost/172.59.225.248) Where did you get that idea? I'm not liberal. I was actually a registered Republican until 2018 when I changed to Independent. But I've never been "liberal." This isn't a liberal/conservative issue in this particular case. This is a "hate has no place here" issue. She didn't undertsand the assignment, which was that she is a SPOKESPERSON for the organization. If she can't represent it with integrity and class, then she can walk away and no one is going to cry a tear. You know the saying -- don't let the door hit ya (NT) -- No name, 19:50:24 02/21/26 Sat (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) Men can not be women and women can not be men. You didn't know this? I am on the staff of a Mrs pageant in my state and the rules clearly state "natural born female married to a natural born male." (NT) -- No name, 20:11:55 03/12/26 Thu (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) Thank you for letting us know the Mrs pageant is bigoted. I'll be sure to spread the word and make sure the girls I coach never enter. Thanks much (NT) -- No name, 18:59:10 03/13/26 Fri (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) Which Mrs system is this? Because I was 1st RU to my Mrs state pageant and I'm a woman married to a woman (NT) -- No name, 19:00:27 03/13/26 Fri (ns565327.ip-54-39-133.net/54.39.133.113) This is in the America system (NT) -- No name, 01:45:45 03/14/26 Sat (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) Please show me where it says they have to be married to a male https://mrsminnesotaamerica.com/rules-and-regulations/ (NT) -- No name, 20:10:10 03/14/26 Sat (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) I thought trannies were banned again (NT) -- No name, 18:10:59 02/12/26 Thu (ip98-162-249-128.ok.ok.cox.net/98.162.249.128) Nah, just you, bigot (NT) -- No name, 18:43:14 02/15/26 Sun (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) Go dilate troop (NT) -- No name, 17:09:00 02/21/26 Sat (ip98-162-249-128.ok.ok.cox.net/98.162.249.128) English please, troll (NT) -- No name, 19:51:01 02/21/26 Sat (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) Autogynophile troon… (NT) -- No name, 20:45:13 02/21/26 Sat (ip98-162-249-128.ok.ok.cox.net/98.162.249.128) did the MAO make a statement about this to TMZ or is that fake news? (NT) -- KML, 16:20:50 02/14/26 Sat (24-230-142-219-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.142.219)

Subject: Miss Teen Volunteer America
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:50:11 03/06/26 Fri (162-201-43-30.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net/162.201.43.30) Maryland, Kansas, and Dc are my top 3. I think Kansas was the one who did an acro routine for talent. I had her for and the Wisconsin tied for talent. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Maryland is lovely and so poised. She is the package Volunteer looks for. I saw her interviewed on a local TV show shortly after she won and loved her. (NT) -- No name, 06:59:55 03/07/26 Sat (c-69-255-232-98.hsd1.md.comcast.net/69.255.232.98) Maryland's talent was weak. Her dress was gorgeous but the color was pretty bland. I thought her on-stage question was far superior to the rest of top 5. (NT) -- No name, 21:19:42 03/07/26 Sat (syn-107-013-036-240.res.spectrum.com/107.13.36.240) So which girls are appointed, or repping states that they don’t live in? (NT) -- Are all states repped this year, 14:12:52 03/07/26 Sat (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117) About half of the top 15, top 12, and top 5 were appointed with no state pageants. It’s a great system where state pageants help grow and develop the ladies, but either way you can get to the national stage and compete for scholarships that actually get paid. (NT) -- No name, 06:30:36 03/09/26 Mon (44.sub-174-198-68.myvzw.com/174.198.68.44) So who if top five were appointed? Rhode Island? Maryland? Were they like from a few years where a girl who represented MD (NT) -- Was from TN and won national title?, 12:21:20 03/10/26 Tue (66-90-170-243.static.grandenetworks.net/66.90.170.243) RI and WI were the two of the top 5 who were appointed. Maryland now has a state pageant. (NT) -- No name, 16:32:58 03/10/26 Tue (17.sub-174-198-65.myvzw.com/174.198.65.17) If only Kansas were a nice girl (NT) -- No name, 14:15:48 03/07/26 Sat (NoHost/140.248.30.43) You must be a miserable person (NT) -- No name, 12:41:25 03/08/26 Sun (NoHost/198.204.204.251) Jeez, they do love their blondes, thats for damn sure. (NT) -- MO., 18:04:17 03/08/26 Sun (c-76-106-49-125.hsd1.md.comcast.net/76.106.49.125) One girl of the top 5 was blond. Enough. (NT) -- No name, 03:40:25 03/10/26 Tue (ip70-187-0-207.om.om.cox.net/70.187.0.207) Wisconsin's talent was fantastic! I thought she might place higher than she did. (NT) -- No name, 18:48:40 03/08/26 Sun (syn-107-013-036-240.res.spectrum.com/107.13.36.240) She was a very good dancer and entertaining, but the song selection was a bit cringe for a teenager (NT) -- No name, 09:04:00 03/09/26 Mon (44.sub-174-198-68.myvzw.com/174.198.68.44) ....Can you at least say in your personal opinion posting above, what was this cringy song that Ella Bey of Wisconsin used for talent last weekend? -- And who were the top ten or twelve of this 2026 teen pageant?, 11:41:16 03/10/26 Tue (syn-047-049-055-214.biz.spectrum.com/47.49.55.214) Ha, I was thinking the same thing. Not all sat and watching Miss Teen Volunteer America to have watched Wisconsin's talent to know what you are speaking of. I also agree in asking what song and -- what was so inappropriate for the teen to dance to? Was she near nude?, 14:48:12 03/10/26 Tue (syn-071-013-145-228.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.145.228) Her costume was fine. She danced to “you don’t own me” and the part about “I’m not one of your many toys” just felt ick for a teen to dance to. (NT) -- No name, 16:48:31 03/10/26 Tue (17.sub-174-198-65.myvzw.com/174.198.65.17) "I'm not one of your many toysac"? What song is this? (NT) -- No name, 08:02:48 03/14/26 Sat (NoHost/212.15.84.172) Jeff, since Ella did so well, you can’t mock her placement on the WI voy board. I notice how you’re quiet over there about her placement. And let’s not pretend you don’t know what happened at the national pageant in Tennessee. (NT) -- No name, 17:19:21 03/10/26 Tue (syn-065-030-210-128.res.spectrum.com/65.30.210.128) Either you are this guy begging for name recognition and attention on this pageant message board (not a grievance forum) or you are jealous of this guy. Or why do you keep name-dropping him as what you did with -- your earlier posted message from last Saturday (March 7th)? Onto other matters and pageant news., 20:18:15 03/12/26 Thu (NoHost/144.92.78.242) What DID Sha-Nita sternly tell you at you in Madison on January 17? All us “local fans” certainly know. (NT) -- No name, 17:49:52 03/13/26 Fri (syn-065-030-210-128.res.spectrum.com/65.30.210.128) How many States in this pageant were represented by girls that live in Tennessee this year. The winner last year was from TN but represented another state (NT) -- No name, 12:04:24 03/12/26 Thu (syn-072-132-249-080.res.spectrum.com/72.132.249.80) I think you are incorrect. Last year‘s teen winner was from Mississippi and was titled in Mississippi —the year prior to that the Teen winner was from Tennessee, but represented Maryland after getting second runner-up in the Tennessee pageant. The year prior to that the national Teen winner was from Utah representing Utah. And the very first Teen winner was from Washington representing Washington. All in all the volunteer system is currently like the national high school America Pageant with a mixture of title holders. It seems like many of the ladies who win their state pageants get quite a bit of support at nationals, but that isn’t required to place or perform well there. (NT) -- No name, 16:34:01 03/13/26 Fri (17.sub-174-198-65.myvzw.com/174.198.65.17)

Subject: Payton May announced she is competing for Miss Arizona!
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:46:01 02/28/26 Sat (NoHost/104.28.39.28) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Anyone notice this
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:29:54 03/13/26 Fri (NoHost/172.58.240.181) When there are 5 left and when they call the 2nd runner up the final two goes into the "oh my god moment" and kinda snubs the person called as 2nd runner up Just an observation after watch Crowning moments [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Missouri MAO class is complete. Who are your predictions?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:58:52 02/27/26 Fri (NoHost/104.28.104.49) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I have looked at the Miss Missouri website and facebook page, and I find just a few mentions of local titleholders. Is there a place where I can see and learn details about this year's competitors? I can't answer the question, otherwise. (NT) -- No name, 15:32:53 03/01/26 Sun (syn-174-100-040-048.res.spectrum.com/174.100.40.48) Where are the 2026 Miss Missouri contestants posted (NT) -- No name, 06:49:23 03/02/26 Mon (214.sub-174-200-48.myvzw.com/174.200.48.214) I predict a lot of hype about whoever is crowned. (NT) -- No name, 09:11:55 03/02/26 Mon (NoHost/50.207.243.5) Top 5 (no particular order): halie hebron, tabitha crain, hanah schrader, georgia barge, ava powers (NT) -- No name, 21:35:10 03/03/26 Tue (NoHost/99.70.201.188) Hope its Hannah's year (NT) -- No name, 09:54:03 03/04/26 Wed (NoHost/128.163.239.191) Yes! (NT) -- No name, 18:53:28 03/04/26 Wed (17.newark-15rh15rt.nj.dial-access.att.net/12.75.217.17) zero talent (NT) -- No name, 22:15:26 03/06/26 Fri (syn-072-132-249-080.res.spectrum.com/72.132.249.80) Not to mention a criminal record? Stripped of a title. Shouldnt even be allowed to compete IMO. (NT) -- No name, 22:49:00 03/06/26 Fri (a172-225-130-124.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com/172.225.130.124) she also got her show me star taken away from her one year.. (NT) -- No name, 12:40:45 03/08/26 Sun (120.sub-174-250-208.myvzw.com/174.250.208.120) For what? And what's the criminal record for? (NT) -- No name, 00:18:31 03/09/26 Mon (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) What is the criminal record for? (NT) -- No name, 09:39:34 03/09/26 Mon (218.sub-174-218-217.myvzw.com/174.218.217.218) How many Hebron sisters are there? Erika was Miss Mo 2010. Seems like another one competed as well. (NT) -- No name, 22:13:34 03/08/26 Sun (NoHost/212.15.83.38) 5 and they've all competed at Miss Missouri! (NT) -- No name, 09:34:22 03/13/26 Fri (NoHost/172.56.164.184) I don’t see anyone on the MO website ? (NT) -- No name, 18:53:54 03/04/26 Wed (140.sub-174-227-71.myvzw.com/174.227.71.140) The ED and Teen Director are in charge of the website, things happen very slowly on social media for this state (NT) -- No name, 22:49:51 03/06/26 Fri (syn-072-132-249-080.res.spectrum.com/72.132.249.80)

Subject: I think State websites should all be as good as Oklahoma.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:38:36 02/26/26 Thu (194.sub-174-240-114.myvzw.com/174.240.114.194) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I think MA should get their heads out of their Btts and stop messing with the spot fund. OMG. get it together! (NT) -- KML, 11:51:43 02/26/26 Thu* (24-230-142-219-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.142.219) I'm so over all the changes each year from headquarters. Figure out a formula and stick to it for God's sake. (Yes the fees and bullshit..) (NT) -- No name, 13:54:42 03/12/26 Thu (23.29.80.195.bbc.net/23.29.80.195) Miss New Mexico and Miss Rhode Island definitely need some work. (NT) -- No name, 22:19:38 02/27/26 Fri (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73) Of course what I mean is their websites. Both the Miss New Mexico and Miss Rhode Island websites need massive overhauls and/or updates. Any other state websites that need improvements? (NT) -- No name, 15:00:08 03/02/26 Mon (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73) Miss PA used to produce a goid pageant production. (NT) -- d..., 16:44:03 03/12/26 Thu (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92) Good not goid. (NT) -- d..., 23:27:34 03/12/26 Thu (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92)

Subject: If your first local pageant was in 1977, when is the 50th anniversary of the program?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:15:40 03/11/26 Wed (184-97-16-1.lcrs.centurylink.net/184.97.16.1) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Depends on how they categorize their anniversaries (by actual years or by titleholders). If by years, then 2027. But they could have crowned two titleholders in one year (say in January and September, representing 199X and 199Z respectively) therefore they "sped up" the count by a year (NT) -- No name, 10:15:41 03/12/26 Thu (NoHost/206.171.115.44) ....Well, also something perhaps you did not take under consideration--was there a pageant held in 2020 and/or 2021 due to the COVID-19 pandemic? Counting the number of winners up to this year or just the starting year--with or without the COVID-19 year/years when a contest was not held? And are you -- counting only up to your current titleholder---or the one who has yet to be named? Be careful., 20:52:45 03/12/26 Thu (NoHost/144.92.78.242)

Subject: Why do they compete ? Not necessarily now but in the past for USA or MAO
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 02:04:41 03/11/26 Wed (50.sub-174-227-88.myvzw.com/174.227.88.50) Do you think ladies compete for A the title B the opportunity C the prizes D the Experience E something else [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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It's like many other competitions. People enter any race for the good feelings it gives them. They now have those moments in their personal history and it gives them satisfaction. (NT) -- no name, 17:32:03 03/11/26 Wed (3.sub-97-170-106.myvzw.com/97.170.106.3) My daughter competed for 2 reasons. (1) The scholarship. She never won Miss State but won enough money to finish her degree debt free. (2) She love being a local titleholder, making appearances and representing the organization she was representing. (NT) -- No name, 12:44:37 03/12/26 Thu (NoHost/136.226.50.117) Same for me! I was a competitor and now I'm a local director. It's work and there are so many times I've wanted to walk away but I keep doing it because someone did it for me. (NT) -- No name, 13:43:43 03/12/26 Thu (23.29.80.195.bbc.net/23.29.80.195) Depends on the pageant! -- No name, 20:09:51 03/12/26 Thu (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219)

Subject: Miss PA used to have good productions that were televised.
Author: d... [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:19:35 03/12/26 Thu (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: NY’s workshop is this weekend. 30 plus girls! Any insight?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 09:26:05 03/07/26 Sat (syn-069-207-068-126.res.spectrum.com/69.207.68.126) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Apparently no one cares about Miss NY anymore (NT) -- No name, 20:41:24 03/07/26 Sat (syn-069-207-068-126.res.spectrum.com/69.207.68.126) Thirty five contestants is impressive. Looks like a good group. (NT) -- No name, 01:38:38 03/08/26 Sun (174-20-130-54.mpls.qwest.net/174.20.130.54) Thanks for commenting. MNY used to be the most talked about. They have the most winners at Miss A and it seems no one really cares anymore. (NT) -- No name, 12:50:29 03/08/26 Sun (NoHost/74.254.145.123) That's what happens when you treat your fans like sh** (NT) -- No name, 19:17:04 03/08/26 Sun (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) Go get your parrot. (NT) -- No name, 21:27:36 03/08/26 Sun (99-196-129-15.cust.exede.net/99.196.129.15) And stop dressing like a damn grinder monkey. (NT) -- No name, 21:29:43 03/08/26 Sun (99-196-128-152.cust.exede.net/99.196.128.152) Uh oh, someone's gotten into the wine cellar (NT) -- No name, 16:53:02 03/09/26 Mon (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) This group deserves credit for academic attainment alone. Three current students or graduates from Columbia U, two from New York U, two from Syracuse U, one each from the following: Augustana College (IL), Boston Conservatory at Berklee, Carleton College, Cornell U, Fashion Institute of Technology, Florida State U, Fordham U Law, Fredonia U, Hofstra U, Hudson Valley CC, John Jay College of Criminal Justice, LaGuardia CC, Liberty U, Marist U, Marymount Manhattan College, Old Dominion U, Real Estate U, Ringling College of Art and Design, St. John's U Law, Stony Brook U, SUNY Jefferson, U at Albany, U Alabama, U Kansas, U Miami, U Nevada-Reno, U Virginia, Wagner College. I wonder how many have competed in other states. I would not sleep on this group. New York has had lots of success in the past thirteen years, five Miss Americas in that time. (NT) -- No name, 15:10:45 03/08/26 Sun (syn-174-100-040-048.res.spectrum.com/174.100.40.48) Isabelle Scarlet was 1RU to Miss WV Teen 2023 and Mary Bellakbira competed in Virginia. Anyone else? (NT) -- No name, 15:37:01 03/08/26 Sun (NoHost/138.197.28.178) Caitlyn McTier? (NT) -- No name, 22:04:31 03/08/26 Sun (NoHost/212.15.83.38) What about her? (NT) -- No name, 10:57:31 03/11/26 Wed (c-73-255-122-212.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.255.122.212) Any insight as the original fucking question was posed. (NT) -- No name, 20:50:58 03/11/26 Wed (NoHost/212.15.83.43) Wow just wow (NT) -- No name, 10:44:23 03/12/26 Thu (c-73-255-122-212.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.255.122.212)

Subject: "Secrets of Miss America" is showing on Hulu streaming-I have watched it and it is excellent.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:42:26 03/08/26 Sun (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) Has anyone else seen the series and if so what did you think of it? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I thought Anita Whittaker was suprised she didn't win something. (NT) -- d..., 18:31:26 03/08/26 Sun (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92) Anita Whitaker. (NT) -- d..., 19:02:41 03/08/26 Sun (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92) And maybe she should have. (NT) -- d..., 01:33:59 03/09/26 Mon (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92) I thought it was a tabloid grievance show. If it's the show I'm thinking of, they had Caressa Cameron on there complaining about losing Miss VA the year before. But yet she came back the next year and won and went on to become Miss America. So what's the grievance about? I felt the show was exploitive. (NT) -- No name, 11:11:21 03/09/26 Mon (NoHost/159.100.209.52) My impression too when Caressa was interviewed (NT) -- No name, 14:38:23 03/11/26 Wed (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219)

Subject: Which Miss America winner was the one that struck you as the most " came out of nowhere" to take the title? Mine would be Tawny Godin. This is not a slam to the winners that year, but basically means they were just flying under the radar
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:44:36 01/29/26 Thu (113.sub-174-216-10.myvzw.com/174.216.10.113) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Kira until we saw the Kmart lady barefoot. (NT) -- No name, 13:07:31 01/29/26 Thu (NoHost/212.15.84.120) I'm not following... Who is the "K Mart Lady?" (NT) -- No name, 15:20:29 01/29/26 Thu (113.sub-174-216-10.myvzw.com/174.216.10.113) Kathy Ireland, head judge that year. She was interviewed before the finals, barefoot. (NT) -- No name, 10:26:07 01/31/26 Sat (NoHost/212.15.84.241) Cara Mund, but it was a pleasant surprise. Her RU was also a shocker (NT) -- No name, 13:49:56 01/29/26 Thu (NoHost/200.9.115.202) Cara's year, everyone expected the yodeling ventriloquist from Louisiana to win. She was a double prelim winner, and up to q&a she was winning. But got that horrible question with the answer about rompers. Noone saw Cara coming even after the q&a session. (NT) -- No name, 01:57:31 01/31/26 Sat (syn-098-156-198-127.res.spectrum.com/98.156.198.127) Were the questions that year generic or written to be contestant specific? As much as LA was prepared… (NT) -- The question made her come across as a pageant bot, 18:30:39 02/01/26 Sun (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117) from my understanding they were "random". (NT) -- No name, 18:38:45 02/01/26 Sun (syn-098-156-198-127.res.spectrum.com/98.156.198.127) Rebecca King, Tawny Godin, Kate Shindle, Teresa Scanlan, Mallory Hagan, Kira Kazantsev, Cara Mund, Camille Schreier, Madison Marsh, Abby Stockard. (NT) -- No name, 14:04:23 01/29/26 Thu (NoHost/172.56.83.125) Forgot to add Shirley Cothran. (NT) -- No name, 15:04:58 01/29/26 Thu (NoHost/172.56.87.150) I agree with most of your choices, but no one was beating Cothran that year ( and I had a family member competing) First off, she was drop dead gorgeous in person and had a swimsuit body that would not quit. Gown was gorgeous, talent was minimal but all she would have had to do was recite her ABC's. But most importantly, she had B. Don' Magness and that whole Texas powerhouse organization behind her. This was back when Texas was at it's most powerful. (NT) -- No name, 15:25:23 01/29/26 Thu (113.sub-174-216-10.myvzw.com/174.216.10.113) I think that, at 21, she already had a master's degree and used this scholarship towards her Ph.D. Many fans loved her talent performance. (NT) -- No name, 16:36:56 01/29/26 Thu (NoHost/163.116.145.66) It was entertaining, but that year was overloaded on major talent. Shirley's was probably in the top 3rd of contestants, but not one of the Top 10 best, in my opinion. But like I said, she had the " Miss America" look and no one questioned her win.I met her at a local a few months later, and she put the stun in stunning. However, I don't know what they did to her at her farewell. They turned her into a grandmother. (NT) -- No name, 16:43:08 01/29/26 Thu (113.sub-174-216-10.myvzw.com/174.216.10.113) Yes, they did. (NT) -- No name, 18:28:39 01/29/26 Thu (c-73-206-250-152.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.206.250.152) Shirley came to our local (that was back in the day when locals could actually afford Miss America's booking fee) and I remember getting her autograph. She was gorgeous and so gracious. I felt that she was definitely deserving of the title, especially after the previous year when Rebecca King's win was a major surprise. (NT) -- No name, 23:15:00 02/26/26 Thu (184-97-16-1.lcrs.centurylink.net/184.97.16.1) As I said above, I also saw her at a local. I was pretty young and it was onstage after the pageant. I wasn't watching where I was going and turned around and ran slam into her. She was wearing the gown she was crowned in. I was mortified that I had just bulldozed Miss America. I was stammering around going " I'm so sorry...." she just smiled the biggest smile and said "That's ok" and kept moving. She was unreal beautiful. In my opinion, one of the 2-3 most facially. beautiful winners ever (NT) -- No name, 14:27:37 02/28/26 Sat (77.sub-174-216-3.myvzw.com/174.216.3.77) I would have much preferred Darlene Compton, Miss Kentucky being chosen Miss America. Darlene sang Mira from Carnival. She was amazingly beautiful, and won Preliminary Talent. (NT) -- No name, 17:05:41 01/29/26 Thu (NoHost/172.56.84.144) I remember that talent. Beautiful voice. That same song had won talent for Allyn Warner (ME) a few years before. (NT) -- No name, 19:54:04 01/29/26 Thu (113.sub-174-216-10.myvzw.com/174.216.10.113) I'm pretty by the book (hence the name hah) when scoring, so that year my choice was definitely California's Lucianne Buchanan because her talent made her a better all-around choice, but at the same time, I'm not surprised to hear this about Shirley. When I think of Miss Americas who chose a gown so perfect for them that the effect was magical, I think of 3 - Kimberly Aiken, Debra Maffett, and Shirley. Breathtaking beauty. (NT) -- Pageant Statistician, 06:47:58 01/30/26 Fri (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) I really think that worked to the detriment the next year for the 1st runner up, Susan Lawrence, Miss NC. She was another beauty, one of the prettiest faces ever at Miss America, but looked so close to Shirley from the year before, they went with Tawny instead. r (NT) -- No name, 10:57:32 01/30/26 Fri (113.sub-174-216-10.myvzw.com/174.216.10.113) If you had ever had even one conversation with Kira prior to Miss America, you would not have been surprised as you would have known her interview would be a 15! She was an incredibly warm and engaging young woman whom you wanted to talk to and get to know. Everyone harps on her win because of talent but i think her talent just proved how relatable she was and she could actually sing (as opposed to others who have made top 5 in the past). I had no problem wth her win at all. She was by far better than the Bollywood dancer from NY and some others who have won Miss America in the past 20 years. (NT) -- No name, 10:42:55 01/31/26 Sat (syn-107-013-036-240.res.spectrum.com/107.13.36.240) Yes Kira is way better than that Bollywood (NT) -- No name, 01:06:37 02/11/26 Wed (184.sub-174-227-81.myvzw.com/174.227.81.184) She's a good broadcaster. She was actually doing the Curling coverage at the olympics and did really well. And she did some really good videos for the Masters You Tube channel (Under the Umbrellas ???) and was a good interviewer covering a variety of people and subjects, which showed her Golf Channel experience was not wasted. I can barely remember the dixie cup talent and the sorority stuff, but in the here and now she's done just fine. (NT) -- No name, 00:16:20 03/05/26 Thu (133-111-106-149.in-addr.arpa.pulsefiber.org/149.106.111.133) Theresa Scanlan was a complete shock. Terrible onstage. (NT) -- No name, 14:20:26 01/29/26 Thu (NoHost/216.125.37.210) Scanlan won because she was so intelligent and because Kris Jenner was a judge. Kris was used to women that capitalized on sex tapes to get ahead and was thoroughly rocked when she ran across a female that actually had working brain. It was so new to her. (NT) -- No name, 15:51:00 01/29/26 Thu (113.sub-174-216-10.myvzw.com/174.216.10.113) Kris didn’t judge that year she judged Laura K’s year (NT) -- No name, 19:20:55 01/29/26 Thu (NoHost/172.56.64.164) According to Wikipedia, you are correct. I could have sworn that was the year she judged. Well then, I have no explanation as to how she won, lol Although, a friend of mine and his wife (non pageant people) met her at an Amway convention. This was back when Amway was a national sponsor. They could not stop gushing about how friendly and personable she was to them. Maybe the judges saw a touch of that. (NT) -- No name, 20:01:03 01/29/26 Thu (113.sub-174-216-10.myvzw.com/174.216.10.113) Biggest shock ever, along with Mallory the following year. GREAT girls competing both years and such disappointing winners. Both young women had huge personal issues and were definitely unfortunate choices! You can argue and have your own opinions but ask those who know/knew them and read about their personal struggles. (NT) -- No name, 15:31:13 02/01/26 Sun (c-73-14-141-197.hsd1.co.comcast.net/73.14.141.197) Well when adults are going after an 18 year old for wearing a wig, you'd probably have mental issues too. Now EVERYONE wears wigs and hair pieces. EVERYONE. (NT) -- No name, 15:59:21 02/10/26 Tue (23.29.80.195.bbc.net/23.29.80.195) I disagreed with all three Miss New Yorks that won in a row (NT) -- No name, 20:09:31 02/21/26 Sat (c-76-106-111-48.hsd1.md.comcast.net/76.106.111.48) I would say Kira (NT) -- No name, 18:54:47 01/29/26 Thu (162.sub-174-221-132.myvzw.com/174.221.132.162) Tawny had a great group of runner ups. Rebecca King also had a strong group of runner ups. An old story about Judy Hieke the 1st RU to King and Miss WI was that her dad was pulled aside and was told she would not win and the powers that be couldn’t let her win because last years winner Terry Meeuwsen was Miss WI. The story was that having back to back state winners nearly bankrupted the pageant in 1960. (NT) -- No name, 23:27:53 01/29/26 Thu (ip98-162-249-128.ok.ok.cox.net/98.162.249.128) For me, Teresa Scanlan would have to be at the top of this list. That must have been one hellacious interview. I would agree that Tawny and Kira were major surprises but certainly not Shirley Cothran. She was one of the most beautiful Miss Americas ever. (NT) -- No name, 23:50:01 01/29/26 Thu (216-24-92-182.unassigned.ntelos.net/216.24.92.182) I posted Kira but after seeing her on stage l totally get why she won (NT) -- No name, 19:08:58 01/30/26 Fri (56.sub-174-227-89.myvzw.com/174.227.89.56) I've also heard that. (NT) -- No name, 00:30:55 01/30/26 Fri (113.sub-174-216-10.myvzw.com/174.216.10.113) Interesting to hear your thoughts on Tawny's runner-ups. I personally was super non-aligned with the judging in that pageant. My Top 3 out of the Top 10 all missed the Top 5... Mary Ellen Richardson of Texas, Cynthia Carpenter of Massachusetts, and Ann Schmalzried of Florida. Of the actual Top 5, I'd have gone with Arizona's Stacey Petersen, but she's in the bottom 3 of my personal winners. (NT) -- Pageant Statistician, 08:21:29 01/30/26 Fri (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) Tawny's top 5 was terrific. All were beautiful and talented and well deserved. The remaining 5 semifinalist were 5 of the most bland, boring, semifinalist I have ever seen. With maybe the exception of South Carolina, the rest virtually disappeared on stage. (NT) -- Tawny, 20:26:06 02/26/26 Thu (c-76-106-49-125.hsd1.md.comcast.net/76.106.49.125) NC was Shirley Cothran 2.0 Absolutely gorgeous face. Actually, she was crowned by Shirley Cothran at her local pageant that year. One of the most beautiful Miss NC's. Unfortunately, succumbed to breast cancer a few years ago (NT) -- No name, 14:31:43 02/28/26 Sat (77.sub-174-216-3.myvzw.com/174.216.3.77) Are you referring to MS winning two years in a row, 1958 and 1959? Why would that bankrupt the pageant? (NT) -- No name, 23:49:28 02/10/26 Tue (NoHost/212.15.84.98) Yes, interesting. (NT) -- No name, 14:41:59 02/28/26 Sat (NoHost/212.15.83.62) Because people would think the results are rigged and would not buy sponsors products. (NT) -- No name, 19:43:00 02/28/26 Sat (77.sub-174-216-3.myvzw.com/174.216.3.77) My bottom 10 Miss Americas (1959-2018) based on finals competition are: (1959) Mary Ann Mobley, (1963) Jacquelyn Mayer, (1967) Jane Jayroe, (1970) Pamela Eldred, (1974) Rebecca Ann King, (1976) Tawny Godin, (1996) Shawntel Smith, (2003) Erika Harold, (2015) Kira Kazantsev, (2018) Cara Mund. Mary Anne, Jane, Pamela and Erika had all won prelim awards (so theoretically couldn't have been too 'out of nowhere'), so my answer is my other 6 :) (NT) -- Pageant Statistician, 05:45:38 01/30/26 Fri (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) I had neglected to mention Shawntel Smith in my list of surprises. I had her nowhere near the top. As you may recall, that year the top three were all non-preliminary winners. (NT) -- No name, 09:39:59 01/30/26 Fri (216-24-92-182.unassigned.ntelos.net/216.24.92.182) Mary Ann! Blasphemy! Lol How could she be on your bottom 10? That face! That personality! She was so beautiful and cute. Before my time, but I've seen the tape. I thought she was a slam dunk winner. (NT) -- No name, 11:02:17 01/30/26 Fri (113.sub-174-216-10.myvzw.com/174.216.10.113) Before my time too - the year my mother was born hah. I have no objections to your jovial reply, but one thing I've never understood, is imagine how boring discussion would be if we all had the same lists! For the record, I had Mary Anne 7th in Talent, 3rd in Gown (where my scoring focuses on fashion / fit), 8th in Swim (where my scoring focuses on fitness and figure, which admittedly weren't really the goals back in 1959, which admittedly brought with it a certain level of disjointedness in my scoring. Overall, I had her 7th of the Top 10, and 4th of the Top 5 (ahead of only Iowa, who ironically was her 1RU). So not bad scores by any means, I just had her ranked 51st of the 60 Miss Americas I've seen in competition. For the record, and speaking of scoring disjointedness, I thought the runaway winner of the pageant that year was Anita Bryant... who of course ended up being the literal devil lol. (NT) -- Pageant Statistician, 00:03:00 02/01/26 Sun (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) Anita totally BOMBED her osq and Mary Ann nailed it. Iowa nailed it too but Mary Ann also had the looks. (NT) -- The judges got it right., 18:11:08 02/19/26 Thu (syn-107-147-195-037.biz.spectrum.com/107.147.195.37) I would have loved to have seen Alabama or Mississippi in the top five over OK and CA, even Kansas. Wasn't Kansas a double preliminary winner? (NT) -- No name, 10:35:15 01/31/26 Sat (NoHost/212.15.84.241) I agree with you. I thought CA / AR / OR deserved their spots in the Top 5, and I would have replaced IL and OK with KS and AL. I did have IL very close to the Top 5 in my own scoring though, so in reality, the only true objection I had in the Top 5 was the winner herself. (NT) -- Pageant Statistician, 00:10:18 02/01/26 Sun (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) Indeed, I have her dead last - lower than even Erika Harold. Shawntel is a gorgeous lady, but brought absolutely nothing of note in on-stage competition. But I also don't buy into the 'She won because of the Oklahoma City bombing' conspiracy theory, which always felt a little too on the nose. Has her interview ever been released? It likely came up in her Interview and may have gotten her some extra points, but other than that, why would anyone put their integrity / reputation on the line to fix a win for a random lady who happened to be from a state that was having a hard year? Doesn't make much sense. (NT) -- Pageant Statistician, 00:08:00 02/01/26 Sun (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) It was very justified, to me, that Tawny Godin won Miss America. She stood out with her All-American persona. Her original piano composition was a rarity. She later said it wasn't as good as she hoped, or something similar. But esteemed composer, Henry Mancini told her that he watched her on Miss America and that she deserved the win. (NT) -- no name, 23:24:37 01/30/26 Fri (226.sub-97-190-55.myvzw.com/97.190.55.226) This is an earnest question - what do you mean by 'All-American persona'? I love Tawny and am THRILLED that we have a liberal arts girl as a Miss America winner, but she was a nerdy weirdo who spoke like a newscaster lol. I also personally hate original piano compositions, because how on earth would I know if you're performing something well if the piece doesn't formally exist? lol. Though a Henry Mancini testimonial is a big deal! (NT) -- Pageant Statistician, 00:12:48 02/01/26 Sun (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) And he would be a better judge than any of us. Also, he was as American as one could be. He recognized that Tawny was indeed All-American. (NT) -- All American was a popular term to describe a wholesome celebrity at that time period., 17:28:58 02/01/26 Sun (226.sub-97-190-55.myvzw.com/97.190.55.226) What surprising life, career we never would have expected after competing at Miss America? -- No name, 21:58:49 02/16/26 Mon (syn-067-250-082-140.res.spectrum.com/67.250.82.140) You know when something is played well because you are moved by it. You don't need to hear it beforehand to know a quality performance when you see one. (NT) -- No name, 15:35:28 02/18/26 Wed (syn-174-100-040-048.res.spectrum.com/174.100.40.48) Tawny's piano composition was technically very easy. (NT) -- No name, 07:27:47 02/28/26 Sat (NoHost/172.56.80.0) Maybe that's why she wasn't so satisfied with her original composition but it sure must have boosted her ego when Henry Mancini, a renowned musician told her he watched and listened to her and he approved. (NT) -- no name, 01:13:04 03/11/26 Wed (3.sub-97-170-106.myvzw.com/97.170.106.3) Cara 100% (NT) -- No name, 13:15:30 01/30/26 Fri (NoHost/128.163.239.165) Cara Mund was totally a SHOCK! Admittedly a weak year for outstanding contestants but she was a jaw dropping pick for sure. A smart girl but no charism, talent or personality. (NT) -- No name, 15:36:38 02/01/26 Sun (c-73-14-141-197.hsd1.co.comcast.net/73.14.141.197) 2011 Arkansas lost to a Teenager (NT) -- No name, 13:33:09 02/02/26 Mon (NoHost/172.58.244.222) Tawny was a HUGE shocker for me. I exclaimed, "WHO??"" when Bert Parks announced her. DeFord wrote an article for Seventeen Magazine explaining her win (which happened in interview). (NT) -- This chapter might've been included to his updated There She Is shortly thereafter., 16:50:58 02/10/26 Tue (syn-104-231-146-068.res.spectrum.com/104.231.146.68) I got Tawny's win. She was a lovely 19 year old and she looked even more beautiful a year later when she gave up her crown. My Mom commented when she came out to give up her crown she was prettier then anyone else on that stage. I also her 10 ten was just about the most blandest, boring (with the exception of North Carolina and California) of all time. But Tawny was a standout. (NT) -- me, 17:24:53 02/11/26 Wed (c-76-106-49-125.hsd1.md.comcast.net/76.106.49.125) The 75th Anniversary in 1995 wasnt a strong group whatsoever . The judges clearly made up their minds about Shawntel from the start. She was called first which means the judges saw her first I expected Alabama to at least make top 5 but for some reason she didnt (NT) -- No name, 13:45:26 02/11/26 Wed (NoHost/169.156.15.207) I personally rated Shawntel's version of "Woman in the Moon" as okay at MA. (NT) -- Maybe it was because I didn't like the tune., 02:14:36 02/12/26 Thu (226.sub-97-190-55.myvzw.com/97.190.55.226) For me the answer is: Erika Harold, Miss America 2003 and Deidre Downs, Miss America 2005 (NT) -- No name, 12:27:06 02/18/26 Wed (NoHost/172.59.74.250) Deidre didn't surprise me as much as Erika. Deidre didn't have a great talent but she was strong in swimsuit and evening wear, and her intelligence was very evident when she spoke. Harold was total interview queen and was not strong in any other areas of competition. (NT) -- No name, 14:15:11 02/18/26 Wed (NoHost/148.59.75.51) If anyone watched Deidre’s interview then you’ll know that’s where it was over and done no matter who did what onstage. They needed substance after Dunlap and Deidre as the future doctor had it. (NT) -- No name, 06:09:37 02/20/26 Fri (c-73-207-113-227.hsd1.ga.comcast.net/73.207.113.227) I never minded Deirdre. She was an interview queen, sure, but also quite strikingly beautiful, and I always appreciated her risk-taking gown. Talent wasn't great but certainly not the worst we've ever heard. Overall, interview got her the crown, but she was no slouch overall. (NT) -- Pageant Statistician, 18:50:45 03/01/26 Sun (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) Kira Kazantsev. She was a complete joke. Not pretty, no talent. Very short. (NT) -- No name, 20:45:09 02/20/26 Fri (c-73-90-200-19.hsd1.ca.comcast.net/73.90.200.19) Kira was not a joke She is one of the most beautiful Miss Americas ever (NT) -- No name, 13:53:26 02/28/26 Sat (182.sub-174-221-153.myvzw.com/174.221.153.182) Vanessa Williams and Susan Akin for shockers for everyone. My faves would be Erika Harold, Teresa Scanlan and Cara Mund. Those 3 were easy to pick. (NT) -- No name, 08:41:47 02/21/26 Sat (digijmres-171-243-225-173.digicelbroadband.com/173.225.243.171) Where did you graduate? I didn't realize they had a sarcasm program, lol. However, in regard to the three that you mentioned....there is a reason for all 3 to have one. I know one of Harold's fellow competitors. She said it was not no surprise to the contestants that year that Harold won. She said that just in casual conversation, you could tell that Harold was smart as a whip and her college credentials didn't hurt either. Scanlon had a lot of pre pageant publicity in regard to her damaged hair and wearing a wig. Plus, she was abnormally intelligent for a 17 year old. Ivy league school was also a factor for Mund. Plus, all 3 were attractive, passable talents, and most importantly extreme intelligence. (NT) -- No name, 14:50:11 02/21/26 Sat (247.sub-174-238-98.myvzw.com/174.238.98.247) Cir: won (NT) -- No name, 14:50:41 02/21/26 Sat (247.sub-174-238-98.myvzw.com/174.238.98.247) Well written (NT) -- No name, 17:16:28 02/21/26 Sat (NoHost/172.56.3.104) Scanlan didn’t reveal her struggles with her hair until mid way through her year. I remember her being pretty bashed on this board for the wigs and she finally decided to come out and talk about it. She won fair and square due to her intelligence and talent and such a young age. (NT) -- No name, 05:13:55 02/27/26 Fri (NoHost/172.58.2.193) Wasn't the promo video she did with that wig organization released after she won Miss NE and prior to Miss A? I thought I recall it going around before her national win. She looked amazing in it, too! (NT) -- No name, 14:46:48 02/27/26 Fri (syn-076-176-242-118.res.spectrum.com/76.176.242.118) Yes, they did. That was when I first noticed her.I never cared at all for her styling, especially in Evening Gown. It looked like an old ill fitting wedding dress and the wig looked to heavy. But there was no denying that she was a whiz kid. I was just disappointed in the fact that she continued to compete after Miss America. I felt it brought down the title, as you would think that once you reached the title of Miss America, that you are somewhat immortalized in Pageant History. Plus, she did it in World USA or America or whatever they call it now. That pageant has such a fly by night history that no one even knows who owns it from year to year. But unfortunately now, Miss America is in the same boat, lol. (NT) -- No name, 15:45:23 02/27/26 Fri (77.sub-174-216-3.myvzw.com/174.216.3.77) She was 17 years old when she won with her whole life ahead of her if she wanted to do another pageant she had the right to. Miss America was also a terrible year and experience for her as she has openly spoke about so I dont blame her for wanting a do over. (NT) -- No name, 10:42:23 02/28/26 Sat (NoHost/172.58.2.193) Sher was not only young, but had been homeschooled until senior year. given the dynamic she was operating under, I think it's amazing she did as well as she did. Dysfunction is one thing, and quite another when mixed in with all the bad mojo of the peak Sam Haskell era. I think she's done an admirable job of creating a much deserved happy life. I never once heard a case of her being mean to anyone, and handled the crown publicly in a way that was very professional for her age and relatively sheltered upbringing. There was nothing wrong with her trying another system , and I think that was all about moving on from competing without all the bad memories. Some people were very harsh towards her as a human being, and forgot she was still someone's teenage daughter online. There's a gap between legitimate criticisms and snark. (NT) -- No name, 15:44:38 02/28/26 Sat (133-111-106-149.in-addr.arpa.pulsefiber.org/149.106.111.133) Well, she did carry on a secret relationship with the boyfriend/fiance her class "sister". There was a huge rift after that time, and we all saw how that turned out. I think after years of hard lessons and maturity, there has been some healing. But I wouldn't classify TS as an angel. (NT) -- No name, 16:52:42 02/28/26 Sat (syn-075-082-032-207.res.spectrum.com/75.82.32.207) Never knew of this. She had a relationship with a boyfriend of someone who competed at Miss America with her? (NT) -- No name, 23:08:48 02/28/26 Sat (NoHost/172.58.2.193) Yes. The car salesman who fathered her kid. (NT) -- No name, 23:24:30 02/28/26 Sat (syn-075-082-032-207.res.spectrum.com/75.82.32.207) At the time she won she was involved in an interracial relationship with some other guy. I remember wondering if MAO was going to get bent out of shape over that. So, did she throw him over for Mr. Car Dealership Guy? Wasn't he the boyfriend of that year's Miss CT. What happened after that? (NT) -- No name, 00:00:07 03/01/26 Sun (77.sub-174-216-3.myvzw.com/174.216.3.77) I remember this and always wondered how the class handled it. This was in the day and age of FB and social media so every class has their own FB group and text group and all that. So how did the class handle the conflict and have they since healed? I imagine it's hard when T had a child with the man (NT) -- No name, 13:20:44 03/01/26 Sun (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) Erika Harold and Kira Kazantsev. (NT) -- No name, 17:36:22 03/06/26 Fri (c-73-90-200-19.hsd1.ca.comcast.net/73.90.200.19)

Subject: Miss GA just had their forum weekend. Any predictions?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:02:00 03/10/26 Tue (130.sub-174-201-199.myvzw.com/174.201.199.130) Miss Ga just had their forum weekend. Any predictions? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Miss Teen Volunteer America
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:44:38 03/06/26 Fri (162-201-43-30.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net/162.201.43.30) Dc won fitness tonight. Well deserved! She would’ve won gown if they awarded that too. Definitely in my top 5! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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She tied fitness with NC. And imo NC should have won it outright. (NT) -- No name, 10:07:47 03/07/26 Sat (syn-107-013-036-240.res.spectrum.com/107.13.36.240) There was something "off" about her on stage. She had a great body, but her confidence level was beyond annoying. She looked like she thought she was better than the others. Never had her in my 5. She deserved getting to the 10, but did not belong in the 5. (NT) -- No name, 00:08:09 03/10/26 Tue (syn-098-156-198-127.res.spectrum.com/98.156.198.127) Are you referencing NC or DC? Both ladies were confident… (NT) -- No name, 01:26:14 03/10/26 Tue (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117)

Subject: Miss Teen Volunteer America Awards Tonight
Author: No name (Confused) [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:44:26 03/05/26 Thu (162-201-43-30.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net/162.201.43.30) Let’s be real. Dc deserved one of those talented awards. Argue with the wall. Still very happy with the girls that were awarded tonight but Dc was beyond amazing and just a great dancer! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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so who won what? Who were the surprises, whether because how strong they were, or didn't live up to the hype... (NT) -- if there even was hype on who to watch, 22:50:28 03/05/26 Thu (162-204-108-238.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/162.204.108.238) There were ties in both categories: MD and KS won Fitness and IL and IN Talent (NT) -- No name, 08:59:44 03/06/26 Fri (c-69-255-232-98.hsd1.md.comcast.net/69.255.232.98) This pageant should be over. Still no word on the winner. I do know Maryland got first runner up, that's about it. (NT) -- results, 20:12:10 03/07/26 Sat (c-76-106-49-125.hsd1.md.comcast.net/76.106.49.125) anyone watching? I just started it...some beautiful girls! and one of the sponsors is also the one that coaches so many winners! (NT) -- Eskew coached the winners of Volunteer Teen and Teen USA last year, among others., 21:32:57 03/06/26 Fri (162-204-108-238.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/162.204.108.238) Hmm… so one of the sponsors announced on stage…Eskew consulting,… (NT) -- Trained many of the top contestants…including the winner, 20:07:06 03/07/26 Sat (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117) Missouri won according to a Google search (NT) -- No name, 21:02:57 03/07/26 Sat (c-73-123-39-2.hsd1.ma.comcast.net/73.123.39.2) MO was fantastic in every phase of competition. Well-deserved. (NT) -- No name, 21:15:14 03/07/26 Sat (syn-107-013-036-240.res.spectrum.com/107.13.36.240) MO is a stunning winner, she fits the Volunteer mold. I figured she and Maryland would be at the top when they both won Talent Prelims, undeservedly so in my opinion, so the judges liked them. Not that either of them was bad, it's just that others were better in that phase of competition. I think she will be a lovely representative for the program. (NT) -- No name, 22:42:06 03/07/26 Sat (c-68-80-3-34.hsd1.pa.comcast.net/68.80.3.34) Watch -- No name, 12:40:59 03/08/26 Sun (c-71-206-117-246.hsd1.tn.comcast.net/71.206.117.246)

Subject: When contestants were allowed to compete at Miss America more than once did this mean they would have to go back and win a local and state again first?
Author: d... [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:57:00 03/04/26 Wed (234.sub-174-219-56.myvzw.com/174.219.56.234) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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It would appear so. If you go to Wikipedia and pull up the page on Rosemary LaPlanche, Miss America 1941, it says she won the Miss California Pageant 3 years in a row. She was a finalist at Miss America in 1939, 1st RU in 1940 and the won in 1941. She is also responsible for the rule that now you can only compete once at the national level. There is a photo of her on her page in a beautiful silk moire dress. She was a gorgeous woman who later became a fairly successful actress in Hollywood. (NT) -- No name, 21:27:27 03/04/26 Wed (244.sub-174-216-0.myvzw.com/174.216.0.244) ...Well to that extent, Rosemary LaPlanche of California can blame former Miss America 2022 and 2023 Mary Katherine Campbell of Ohio for setting the pageant rule that a former Miss America could only compete and hold the national title once--after Mary competed in the 1924 Miss America pageant as "Miss America 1922" and placed first runner-up to Ruth Malcomson, after winning the national title the previous two years. Miss America 1921, Margaret Gorman did the same in competing in 1922 (Placing as -- a top four finalist) and 1923 (a non-finalist) both times competing as "Miss America 1921"., 18:10:52 03/05/26 Thu (syn-047-044-104-164.biz.spectrum.com/47.44.104.164) ...Well to that extent, Rosemary LaPlanche of California can blame former Miss America 1922 and 1923 Mary Katherine Campbell of Ohio for setting the pageant rule that a former Miss America could only compete and hold the national title once--after Mary competed in the 1924 Miss America pageant as "Miss America 1922" and placed first runner-up to Ruth Malcomson, after winning the national title the previous two years. Miss America 1921, Margaret Gorman did the same in competing in 1922 (Placing as -- a top four finalist) and 1923 (a non-finalist) both times competing as "Miss America 1921"., -- ..a top four finalist) and 1923 (a non-finalist) both times competing as "Miss America 1921"., 18:13:00 03/05/26 Thu (syn-047-044-104-164.biz.spectrum.com/47.44.104.164) I never knew that, l thought you could only compete once (NT) -- No name, 03:20:26 03/06/26 Fri (140.sub-174-227-68.myvzw.com/174.227.68.140) Keep in mind, the rules at that time were over 100 years old. (NT) -- No name, 17:32:10 03/06/26 Fri (syn-174-100-040-048.res.spectrum.com/174.100.40.48) ....You say "at that time" (referring to the early 20th century AC Boardwalk national pageants).....the Miss America pageant rules pertaining to entrants competing in Atlantic City in the early 1920sto 1940s were not 100 years old....it was in its infancy. And with each thing that came up that caused concerns, that became a new pageant rule. But it just goes to show--even then in the 1920s, the Miss America title meant something or why else would a former and -- a current reigning Miss America wish to try again or defend her title?, 04:35:33 03/08/26 Sun (syn-047-044-104-164.biz.spectrum.com/47.44.104.164)

Subject: what are the dates for state mao competitions?
Author: can someone post? [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:24:32 03/07/26 Sat (24-230-142-219-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.142.219) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Talent at MTVA
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:58:12 03/07/26 Sat (162-201-43-30.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net/162.201.43.30) I have come to like non-traditional talents. There was this girl at the Teen Volunteer pageant on night 1 that did ASL and it wasn’t entertaining. I saw a pretty black girl that did ASL last year, I think she represented DC, Hamilton girl, she was so entertaining and upbeat and fun. That’s the nontraditional type of talent that’s enjoyable to watch. Just my opinion. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Agreed. The DC girl from last year is really entertaining. I was told she’s been doing ASL for awhile though. She and the current DC teen attend the same college there. -- April, 16:35:49 03/07/26 Sat (162-201-43-30.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net/162.201.43.30) We can see your IP address, but yes, she was delightful. (NT) -- No name, 17:33:35 03/07/26 Sat (75-163-205-28.clsp.qwest.net/75.163.205.28) Which means? There was nothing rude in my comment. So.. -- April, 17:44:32 03/07/26 Sat (162-201-43-30.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net/162.201.43.30) I think she said we can see your IP address because you posted as the original poster and then responded to yourself. saying that you agree with yourself. (NT) -- No name, 17:54:51 03/07/26 Sat (NoHost/146.75.175.1) Oh lol I’m new to this. I’m not the original poster but thanks for educating me. -- April, 18:42:55 03/07/26 Sat (162-201-43-30.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net/162.201.43.30) The number numbers after your post include the date and your IP address, which is unique that’s how they could tell. It’s the same poster that you posted the original message and responded to yourself (NT) -- No name, 18:49:57 03/07/26 Sat (NoHost/146.75.175.1) Jeff Ripp who runs the WI Voy Board holds full on convos with himself there, so it’s nothing really new here. (NT) -- No name, 19:13:41 03/07/26 Sat (syn-065-030-210-128.res.spectrum.com/65.30.210.128)

Subject: Watch "American Royalty (2023) \| FREE MOVIE" on YouTube
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:06:02 03/03/26 Tue (pool-99-240-24-90.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/99.240.24.90) Watch "American Royalty (2023) \| FREE MOVIE" on YouTube https://youtu.be/m8-typ1eR3E?si=18ujF70_qQoTv0wB [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Thank you for posting the link. I just finished watching. There was nothing in it that I found as new information, but the relevancy question was brought up to the formers. Some said they were not sure if the pageant is relevant today. That saddens me, but they are right. I was born in the 1960s and I miss the heydays of the pageant. Watching Vanessa win was so memorable. I was so proud of my home state, Ohio, who had two wins in the 1970s. Oh, I wish we could go back. (NT) -- No name, 14:07:30 03/07/26 Sat (NoHost/184.52.105.215)

Subject: Old but please explain
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:42:27 02/23/26 Mon (NoHost/172.56.3.104) So I've heard that Shani Neilson who won a talent award and was in the top 10 was excluded from being in the top 5 simply because of her platform?? if that's the case that's sounds like rigging to me I did notice she was called 2nd . Louisiana who was 1st and Missouri who was 3rd were both in top 5 Something just wasn't right with that scenario [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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"so I've heard" is your first clue. The conspiracy theories as to why someone who was super beautiful or super talented didn't make the top 5 have been going around for years. Yes Shani won talent but unless someone has the auditors scores from interview, no one knows for sure. It is mere speculation that she did not make the top 5 because of her platform. Remember we are talking about a pageant that happened in the middle of the Interview queen era. (NT) -- No name, 22:08:26 02/23/26 Mon (c-98-220-13-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net/98.220.13.180) Another thing to keep in mind is that the producers arrange the order of the top ten so that they won't have three singers in a row or two pianists in a row, so the order in which she was called does not have anything to do with her scores. i personally thought her talent was amazing but in all likelihood her platform did keep her from having a strong enough interview to make top five. But we can just as easily guess that she was number six and just barely outside the top five. (NT) -- No name, 23:44:21 02/23/26 Mon (216-24-92-182.unassigned.ntelos.net/216.24.92.182) Not sure about your in a row theory. I've seen back to back singers many times😉 (NT) -- No name, 10:04:32 02/24/26 Tue (NoHost/50.232.32.204) I telephoned my Miss State post-pageant and she was one of Leonard Horn's favs. He confided to her he didn't like Shani's platform of Pet Therapy for Miss America's national platform. My Miss State surmised that kept her out of top five in spite of her tremendous prelim-winning talent. I also heard Tara's family was somewhat devastated that night when she lost talent to Indiana. (NT) -- No name, 16:10:25 02/24/26 Tue (syn-104-231-146-068.res.spectrum.com/104.231.146.68) Tara stole tat talent from a contestant in Texas. Every detail in the costume. Every movement and motion. Every inflection. I'm glad she lost. (NT) -- No name, 09:13:50 03/06/26 Fri (NoHost/216.125.37.210) Well then. To keep someone out of the top 5 means she was given low scores that she didn't otherwise deserve. Sounds like rigging in the wrong way to me (NT) -- No name, 13:25:35 03/05/26 Thu (NoHost/172.56.32.120) What year was this and what was her platform (NT) -- No name, 03:26:16 03/06/26 Fri (140.sub-174-227-68.myvzw.com/174.227.68.140) Televised in 1996 for 1997 pageant. Platform was Pet therapy (NT) -- No name, 07:56:56 03/06/26 Fri (NoHost/172.56.3.139) That is a great platform/ l would love spay and neuter too (NT) -- No name, 13:21:44 03/06/26 Fri (246.sub-174-221-148.myvzw.com/174.221.148.246) In the 90's, my platform was Rape and Sexual Assault awareness and at the state pageant, they wouldn't even ask me about my platform. They focused on the partnership I had with a domestic abuse hotline I volunteered for. Both my onstage questions were about domestic abuse and not sexual assault. Very disappointing (especially since a few of the other girls got questions like "of all your awards, which has been your favorite?" (NT) -- No name, 14:50:55 03/06/26 Fri (23.29.80.195.bbc.net/23.29.80.195) Shani was a great talent. Watch evening gown competition. She was a little nervous and jerky. I still wanted her to win. (NT) -- No name, 18:54:55 03/06/26 Fri (196.sub-174-240-96.myvzw.com/174.240.96.196)

Subject: Miss New Hampshire America 100 days away
Author: 6hdhwia613974xxJAZ [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:31:12 01/19/26 Mon (163-252-201-237.mnchnh.fidium.ccidns.net/163.252.201.237) Thoughts? One of the first Miss and Teen competitions in the country for Miss America 2027, and a historically competitive state.Iâ€™m seeing girls post 100 days away posts. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Is there a consolidated list of contestants somewhere? (NT) -- No name, 19:52:33 01/19/26 Mon (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) List of Miss New Hampshire contestants according to Instagram findings -- No name, 21:27:06 01/31/26 Sat (163-252-201-237.mnchnh.fidium.ccidns.net/163.252.201.237) Competitive, how? (NT) -- No name, 20:47:25 01/19/26 Mon (NoHost/12.208.205.11) New Hampshire has always had over two dozen local competitions, which offer substantial scholarship winnings. The state scholarship foundation then awards over $100,000 at the state pageant annually. Many contestants return year after year; not so much to win the crown, but to gain scholarship money and improve their presentations and skills for use in the future. It isn't just about the best look or the best talent. (NT) -- No name, 15:32:29 01/21/26 Wed (syn-174-100-040-048.res.spectrum.com/174.100.40.48) Have you ever actually seen the Miss NH pageant? I travel to a lot of the pageants in the northeast and Miss NH is consistently competitive in all phases of competition. They have something like 27 locals. In recent years, Miss NH has been more competitive and a better show than Miss NY, despite NY having two or three super strong contestants. Take this year for example, the top 2 in NY were really good. The original 2nd RU on the night of the pageant was also okay, but not in the same category as the top 2. Then you get to the 3rd RU (who ultimately took over the state title) and she'd have difficulty winning a local in a southern state. This has been the trend with NY and several other states, unfortunately. NH is still the best state pageant in the northeast (NT) -- No name, 09:13:26 01/23/26 Fri (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) Updates -- No name, 17:18:03 03/06/26 Fri (NoHost/216.79.90.129)

Subject: Have very many formers seen Vanessa Williams perform on broadway or in concert?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:35:10 03/05/26 Thu (ip98-162-249-128.ok.ok.cox.net/98.162.249.128) I saw Nina traveled to London and saw Vanessa perform at the West End in the devil wears Prada. I follow Deneen Graham (Miss NC 83) on social media and she posted a photo with Vanessa at a symphony concert Vanessa perform at. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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For those not familiar, Deneen and Vanessa competed at Miss America the same year. Was surprised Deneen did not advance. On an interesting side note....both she and her Miss NC predecessor, Elizabeth Williams, competed in the Miss Hollywood Pageant. It was kind of interesting, as several former MAO and USA girls competed. It's currently on You Tube. (NT) -- No name, 16:23:25 03/05/26 Thu (244.sub-174-216-0.myvzw.com/174.216.0.244)

Subject: New sashes
Author: Me [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:48:43 02/16/26 Mon (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117) So it seems Miss America and all the state titleholders received new sashes…. Red white and blue for Americas 250 birthday. Current titleholders will share the sashes with their successors. What are your thoughts on the sashes? Reminds me a bit of sashes on the kiddie circuit., with the Stars and Stripes lettering [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I too thought they looked juvenile and childish. Just seems like a waste of money. They were required to post those videos, even though the girls group text was blowing up how tacky they are. Oh well, another dumb decision MAO has made when they need to be focused on figuring out how to pay for their legal fees. At lease Robin has decided to charge each state 100.00 for their princess program to make some more money. This really is becoming a cash cow for Robin! This organization will never be what it once was and that is so sad. (NT) -- No name, 14:29:44 02/17/26 Tue (NoHost/185.229.59.81) Yep. $100 to just secure the little fundraiser event. Here is another head scratcher, it cannot even be called a Little Sisters event, cannot use the term. For someone pushing branding, this make little sense. (NT) -- No name, 17:14:26 02/17/26 Tue (syn-097-105-043-098.biz.spectrum.com/97.105.43.98) They are cute (NT) -- No name, 14:31:18 02/17/26 Tue (56.sub-174-221-151.myvzw.com/174.221.151.56) I think the American public will love them, especially as we get closer to the Fourth of July. (NT) -- No name, 14:34:04 02/17/26 Tue (syn-174-100-040-048.res.spectrum.com/174.100.40.48) I do think they are cute for Labor Day, Memorial Day & 4th of July. But personally they are a little too busy for my taste. (NT) -- No name, 14:37:11 02/17/26 Tue (NoHost/12.233.34.186) Do you not realize they are to celebrate the 250th Anniversary of America??? (NT) -- No name, 18:26:35 02/17/26 Tue (104-179-20-249.lightspeed.lsvlky.sbcglobal.net/104.179.20.249) Another poster here. There were many other ways to do that than making them where a tacky sash (NT) -- No name, 20:05:17 02/17/26 Tue (NoHost/172.56.66.17) I guess everyone has an opinion. It’s not like they are taking their current sashes away (NT) -- No name, 21:11:30 02/17/26 Tue (104-179-20-249.lightspeed.lsvlky.sbcglobal.net/104.179.20.249) I, too, found it busy (NT) -- No name, 10:13:48 02/18/26 Wed (NoHost/71.237.132.155) I love them and think they look so patriotic. Wasn't that the point? And they will give it to the new Miss State when they crown her but it is just for the celebration year. (NT) -- No name, 11:46:15 02/18/26 Wed (75-144-226-225-Tallahassee.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/75.144.226.225) It's whatever - I just better not be required to get them at the local/add expense to my local. (NT) -- No name, 13:07:42 02/18/26 Wed (23.29.80.195.bbc.net/23.29.80.195) I guess you have no affinity for the official Miss America local crown, as well. (NT) -- No name, 15:37:17 02/18/26 Wed (syn-174-100-040-048.res.spectrum.com/174.100.40.48) 250 sashes -- No name, 20:45:22 02/21/26 Sat (h38.64.89.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/75.89.64.38) The org is so broke they have to give the 2026 titleholders a gaudy hand me down? They are chinsy looking and belong on Ultimate Redneck Mini Super Grand Supreme. (NT) -- No name, 11:05:47 02/24/26 Tue (ip98-164-176-4.lv.lv.cox.net/98.164.176.4) I would be happy to represent my state regardless of the sash. It's not a deal-breaker, for goodness' sake. (NT) -- No name, 17:32:10 02/24/26 Tue (syn-174-100-040-048.res.spectrum.com/174.100.40.48) ....I would say these banners, most here are speaking of, are nice, cute, and ok, patriotic for America's 250 anniversary this July. But let the national office/corporate sponsor pay for them, not make the state or local-regional pageants spend valued funds for such a thing. What is next, matching crowns with colorful artificial gems---red, white, and blue -- to match those banners, to charge the state and local pageants/contestants?, 20:35:37 02/24/26 Tue (NoHost/128.104.145.214) The national office DID pay for them. (NT) -- No name, 09:10:09 02/25/26 Wed (syn-072-133-036-221.res.spectrum.com/72.133.36.221) The Miss State titleholders were gifted them. I have not heard that locals are required or even encouraged to use them. The Miss State winners crowned this year will wear them in the Philadelphia parade in July. (That is what I was told.) (NT) -- No name, 16:40:47 02/25/26 Wed (75-144-226-225-Tallahassee.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/75.144.226.225) Many Miss States won't be crowned by July. The sashes are tacky AF (NT) -- No name, 17:13:15 02/25/26 Wed (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) All state pageants will be completed by the last weekend of June actually. (NT) -- No name, 18:29:20 02/25/26 Wed (93.sub-174-252-157.myvzw.com/174.252.157.93) Gifted them -- No name, 15:27:53 03/03/26 Tue (NoHost/38.140.21.74) They’re done for special occasions. MUO used to do special sashes for events or causes. I don’t think they’re kept, they just get used by the next titleholder (NT) -- No name, 10:08:45 03/04/26 Wed (hlfxns0188w-99-192-66-118.pppoe-dynamic.high-speed.ns.bellaliant.net/99.192.66.118)

Subject: Trivia question: who was Susan Powell's first runnerup when she won Miss Oklahoma?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:41:57 02/28/26 Sat (NoHost/212.15.83.65) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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April Clayton she declined the Miss Oklahoma title and won the pageant outright in 1981. Kathleen Allin who was 2nd RU took the title. 2 years later she competed in Florida and was 1st RU to Deanna Pitman. For a moment she almost became Miss Florida after the revelations of Pitmans DUI came out, but Pitman was allowed to retain her title. (NT) -- No name, 09:52:07 03/01/26 Sun (167.sub-174-202-162.myvzw.com/174.202.162.167) Oh interesting! Would she have been the first woman to hold two different state titles? (NT) -- Pageant Statistician, 19:45:48 03/01/26 Sun (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) Thank you! (NT) -- No name, 18:35:26 03/02/26 Mon (NoHost/212.15.84.69) We have the possibility in Texas of a young lady holding two state titles. Miss Southlake, Sarah Swift, assumed the Miss Colorado title when Madison Marsh won Miss America. Now, Sarah is in her second year of competing in Miss Texas. She was fourth runner-up last year, and this year is the title holder for one of the best organized and best prep teams in the Miss Texas Organization. (NT) -- No name, 12:06:42 03/03/26 Tue (syn-076-185-104-044.res.spectrum.com/76.185.104.44) Has there ever been a lady who has held two different state titles? (NT) -- No name, 15:09:41 03/03/26 Tue (66-90-170-243.static.grandenetworks.net/66.90.170.243) See post immediately above. If that happens in Texas, it will be the first and only occurrence. (NT) -- No name, 17:25:28 03/03/26 Tue (syn-076-185-104-044.res.spectrum.com/76.185.104.44) Not in MAO, but it has happened when split between MAO and USA (NT) -- No name, 18:01:05 03/03/26 Tue (72.sub-174-216-2.myvzw.com/174.216.2.72)

Subject: WHEN AND WHERE WILL THE NEXT MISS AMERICA PAGEANT BE HELD?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:09:03 03/03/26 Tue (c-73-90-200-19.hsd1.ca.comcast.net/73.90.200.19) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Surprised Placements At MA
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:36:53 01/21/26 Wed (NoHost/169.156.15.222) This is strictly for 1st runners up and 4th. Were there any surprises about someone being called 4 when you thought they should be higher or head scratching 1st runner ups Not saying anything cruel.. Just saying [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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For this millennium, cannot think of any 1st RUs that were not deserving, even if I did not have them that high. But for as at 4ths, yes, most recently Margana Wood for 2018. I had Margana winning (esp after LA & AL were cut. Those were my top 3, so very surprised). Before that, Emoly West, Yanci Yarbrough, and maybe Nicole Lamarche come to mind. (NT) -- No name, 15:33:41 01/21/26 Wed (NoHost/146.75.164.0) I never could figure out why Yanci did not win. (NT) -- No name, 16:43:36 01/30/26 Fri (133-111-106-149.in-addr.arpa.pulsefiber.org/149.106.111.133) Because Heather French NAILED her final onstage interview with Marie Osmond. There aren't many times when I pick the same winner that the judges do, but that year I definitely picked Heather. Her talent was good, she had won preliminary swimsuit, and her gown was gorgeous. After that final interview, I felt that she had also had a great private interview with the judges. (NT) -- No name, 12:52:54 02/01/26 Sun (184-97-57-142.lcrs.centurylink.net/184.97.57.142) She certainly did. Others I felt nailed their final onstage interview are Katy Harman and Leanza Cornett. (NT) -- No name, 09:49:41 02/08/26 Sun (NoHost/212.15.84.99) So did Kate Shindle. No way did she beat Michelle Warren in the other onstage questions. But she definitely won interview & onstage question, though Michelle's onstage question was good enough. (NT) -- No name, 20:39:24 02/16/26 Mon (syn-107-013-036-240.res.spectrum.com/107.13.36.240) I meant to say she didnt beat Michelle in the other onstage CATEGORIES. But interview/onstage question, yeah, though Michelle's onstage question was good enough. (NT) -- No name, 21:39:11 02/16/26 Mon (syn-107-013-036-240.res.spectrum.com/107.13.36.240) It was well known in NC, that Michele's Miss America private interview was horrible. It's a testament to how much they loved her onstage that she got to 1st runner up. I heard that she stopped the judges in the midst of her interview and said she didn't want to talk about her platform any more. She was gorgeous and so talented, but interview definitely needed work (NT) -- No name, 23:51:31 02/16/26 Mon (155.sub-174-238-96.myvzw.com/174.238.96.155) Her interview is in YouTube along with Kate’s and others from that year. (NT) -- No name, 02:59:46 02/17/26 Tue (NoHost/172.56.66.17) She didn't stop them in interview and tell them she didn't want to talk about her platform anymore. Why don't you actually WATCH her interview instead of relying on gossip and rumors? And it wasn't "horrible". It wasn't great, it was mediocre. If it had been horrible, they wouldn't have even looked at her on stage. She was warm and engaging and friendly, even if she wasn't a current events queen like Shindle. But there is no denying that Shindle's interview was outstanding. Michelle was flawless on stage, however. She would have made a great Miss America too. She would have just been a different kind, more of the old-school Miss America. Even though she was not my choice, Kate was an excellent Miss America. (NT) -- No name, 11:28:24 02/17/26 Tue (syn-107-013-036-240.res.spectrum.com/107.13.36.240) Unpopular opinion here. But I think Kates interview was average. There wasn’t much personality or spark there other than giving good answers. So many rave about it being one of the best interviews, but I think that is to justify her win because let’s be honest that one was a head scratcher. Although she turned out to be a great Miss America (NT) -- No name, 13:01:03 02/17/26 Tue (NoHost/172.56.66.17) I agree with your analysis about Michelle's interview, and Kate's. (NT) -- No name, 14:04:15 02/17/26 Tue (NoHost/163.116.254.42) I thought Michelle's onstage interview with Nancy Glass was actually quite good. I loved the statement she made when she said, " I feel I'm an expert in my field being the field is me." I don't know if she thought that up off the cuff or if she had it stored away in memory, but thought it was the perfect summary statement for her onstage interview. (NT) -- No name, 23:13:48 02/28/26 Sat (184-97-16-1.lcrs.centurylink.net/184.97.16.1) A couple of 4th runner ups that I thought should have placed higher were Linnea Fayard in 1990, Missy Hurdle in 1991, Nancy Glisson in 1993 and Tiffany Storm in 1994. (NT) -- No name, 16:23:34 01/21/26 Wed (NoHost/148.59.75.51) Amen, amen, amen and amen! (NT) -- No name, 14:35:15 01/22/26 Thu (NoHost/163.116.254.48) I swear if I didn't know better they styled Missy Hurdle after actress Ann Blyth. I would have loved her and Iowas top two but there was no beating Carolyn. (NT) -- No name, 11:29:10 02/01/26 Sun (NoHost/212.15.83.41) Yes I would have switched Nancy G with Kara Martin (NT) -- No name, 17:06:25 01/21/26 Wed (NoHost/172.56.3.55) I always thought they put Nancy in the 4th runner up slot, so she wasn't a threat to Kim Aiken. (NT) -- No name, 16:15:22 01/22/26 Thu (NoHost/155.190.9.5) I was most shocked hearing Emoly West from OK called as 4th ru. There was so much hype and buzz around her and many thought she was running away with the crown on finals. I do think Scanlan was the rightful winner that night (NT) -- No name, 03:29:13 01/22/26 Thu (NoHost/172.56.64.164) There are many 4RUs that I had as the winner.... to name only 5: Tiffany Storm (1995), Emoly West (2011), Noelle Freeman (2012), Lauren Kuhn (2015) and Margana Wood (2018). Glad to see many of them have been mentioned already. (NT) -- Pageant Statistician, 08:35:59 01/22/26 Thu (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) in hindsight, those judges were bound and determined to crown a future Harvard lawyer with gorgeous blue eyes (despite that junior league talent) but Margana did herself no favors by the dreadful answer to her Top 5 question (which she had to take back when she got back to TX). Sad! (NT) -- No name, 19:08:23 01/22/26 Thu (c-73-206-250-152.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.206.250.152) Dreadful to you. (NT) -- No name, 13:14:57 01/23/26 Fri (ip72-198-20-156.ok.ok.cox.net/72.198.20.156) Her top 5 answer was the best of the bunch. What are you smoking? As for her taking it back, you must be dreaming. She never took any of it back. And she was right (NT) -- No name, 14:25:37 01/23/26 Fri (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) Margana went on TV in both Houston and Dallas (I saw both interviews) and said Of course she never meant to suggest that she was substituting her judgment for the President of the United States. Something like that, very diplomatic, very deferential. She had to 'cause TX is a red state. In your opinion, she might have been "right" as rain, but I don't think it sat well with many Texans. Carry on.d (NT) -- No name, 16:40:05 01/23/26 Fri (NoHost/163.116.254.50) Ok first of all, that makes no sense whatsoever. She didn't say anything that needed clarification that she wasn't "substituting her judgment for the president's" whatever that even means. Second, Margana won the crown and was one of the most popular and most booked Miss TXes in modern history, so no, she didn't have to walk it back even in "red" TX. Please (NT) -- No name, 14:19:10 01/25/26 Sun (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) What was Margana’s question? And what did she answer? (NT) -- No name, 19:01:08 01/25/26 Sun (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117) We dodged a bullet when Noelle didn't win (NT) -- No name, 14:24:13 01/23/26 Fri (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) Why? (NT) -- No name, 23:41:28 01/26/26 Mon (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117) Too arrogant and snooty. A few years later, she did a Miss America post-show on You Tube with a few other formers and she was obnoxious (NT) -- No name, 11:42:51 02/22/26 Sun (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) 4th RU -- No name, 21:16:56 02/21/26 Sat (h38.64.89.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/75.89.64.38) Makes you stop and consider, were the names called in the correct order?----You ask, but why doesn't local and state pageants just release the preliminary and final night semi-final scoring -- for open transparency? Maybe redact the names of the judges, but thats it?, 20:14:38 02/27/26 Fri (NoHost/144.92.78.242) She finished 3rd runner up, but Lexie Madden was my choice for 2013. I never saw Mallory coming between Lexie, Ali Rogers and Alicia Clifton. (NT) -- No name, 16:07:50 01/22/26 Thu (NoHost/159.100.209.51) Different strokes. I had Mallory as the winner all night. (NT) -- No name, 15:03:25 01/23/26 Fri (NoHost/64.53.172.188) So did the judges. They even had Mallory winning Swimsuit. REALLY?? I also loved Lexie and Ali. (NT) -- No name, 22:53:12 01/23/26 Fri (c-73-206-250-152.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.206.250.152) The thing is, if you didn't have Mallory winning the whole thing after she won swimsuit, then you have no idea how to predict pageant winners. There was nothing outstanding about Mallory, or so we thought. When she won swimsuit, I knew right away the judges fell in love with her and it was her performance on stage and not necessarily how she compared to others in individual categories that would carry her to the crown. The judges fell in love with her in interview and then loved her confidence and attitude on stage. This was totally an example of personality winning (NT) -- No name, 15:42:05 01/25/26 Sun (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) I knew there was something " special" about her the moment I found out she texted one of the judges during pageant week. Ya gotta love a girl who just totally disregards the rules and does things on her own terms. And that's not even bringing up how after her year she sided with Gretchen and Regiba to finished the job of bringing down the brand of Miss America. Yeah....she's a very admirable girl. (NT) -- No name, 13:06:34 01/26/26 Mon (194.sub-174-238-105.myvzw.com/174.238.105.194) That sounds like a conflict of interest! Do you have proof of this? (NT) -- No name, 19:50:05 01/26/26 Mon (ec2-18-88-12-239.compute-1.amazonaws.com/18.88.12.239) It was discussed widely on this board during Miss America week. I think she texted a judge to wish them Happy Birthday or something. Lots of folks were upset about it. (NT) -- No name, 22:45:08 01/26/26 Mon (194.sub-174-238-105.myvzw.com/174.238.105.194) It wasnt a text it was a twitter comment (NT) -- No name, 13:58:36 01/27/26 Tue (NoHost/128.163.239.165) It wasn't a conflict of interest. She tagged him in a public tweet. It isn't like she sent him love notes or propositioned him or something. She literally just tagged him on social media. People lost their minds when it happened (NT) -- No name, 11:44:33 02/22/26 Sun (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) Just rewatched on YouTube. Lexie lost because she’s a robot. Nicely packaged (especially her wardrobe) but so disingenuous and dead behind the eyes. Then you have Mallory and Alicia, who are real and fresh. South Carolina was pretty hauty, despite a terrible talent, IMO. (NT) -- No name, 23:56:58 02/07/26 Sat (NoHost/64.53.172.188) Camille Lewis and Scarlotte Dupree. Scarotte may have had the worst voice ever to grace the Miss America stage. (NT) -- Sonia, 18:18:30 01/22/26 Thu (ool-182f1de3.dyn.optonline.net/24.47.29.227) It wasn't THAT bad. Carrie Mitchell was BAD, but she was gorgeous. (NT) -- No name, 19:42:39 01/25/26 Sun (NoHost/212.15.84.121) Well, as far as looks good, if you are using looks as a barometer, Scarlett wasn't exactly barking up any trees, either. I thought she was beautiful. Not the strongest voice, but beautiful. (NT) -- No name, 13:17:52 01/26/26 Mon (194.sub-174-238-105.myvzw.com/174.238.105.194) Worst voice goes to Kristi Glakas (NT) -- No name, 19:22:53 01/29/26 Thu (NoHost/172.56.64.164) I actually liked Kristy G (NT) -- No name, 23:35:38 02/16/26 Mon (56.sub-174-221-151.myvzw.com/174.221.151.56) Scarlotte won the contestant vote and the quiz which combined was 20% of the score. Camille Lewis bombed the quiz and wasn’t in the top 3 for contestant vote. (NT) -- No name, 23:34:29 01/29/26 Thu (ip98-162-249-128.ok.ok.cox.net/98.162.249.128) Sorry have to throw this in there ..In 2003 Everyone expected Marina Harrison to do better than 3rd. Hadnt heard such boos's since Nancy Glisson But im guessing it was Dunlap's dress that helped. However she also won talent that night so I guess maybe Marina was were she should have been..... Maybe 2 tho (NT) -- No name, 11:40:38 01/23/26 Fri (NoHost/169.156.15.204) In my opinion, the pageant was over when Dunlap walked out in that dress. The only time I've ever seen an evening gown win Miss America. I don't know who her stylist was, but whomever earned their paycheck. She was perfection. (NT) -- No name, 13:18:33 01/23/26 Fri (194.sub-174-238-105.myvzw.com/174.238.105.194) Speaking of that .... She was the first Miss America to walk empty handed . I dont think the dress played a part in it but it was odd. (NT) -- No name, 13:25:18 01/23/26 Fri (NoHost/169.156.15.204) I always wondered about that. Did she take off before they could hand her the stuff. She was bouncing around so.My all time favorite winning reaction. (NT) -- No name, 13:20:00 01/26/26 Mon (194.sub-174-238-105.myvzw.com/174.238.105.194) Stuff? If you look again there were no stuff. No flowers no septar was seen. I saw the video of when she won Florida and her reaction was almost the same but not to the degree it was at MA (NT) -- No name, 07:16:04 01/27/26 Tue (NoHost/172.58.244.222) What made the dress so special? It was beautiful, yes, but I don't seee how it was as amazing as people make it out to be (NT) -- No name, 14:27:25 01/23/26 Fri (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) It wasn't actually the dress, itself. It was just that was the perfect dress for her. It had to do more with the color, style, etc. She just literally popped onstage. (NT) -- No name, 15:10:55 01/25/26 Sun (194.sub-174-238-105.myvzw.com/174.238.105.194) I believe her stylist was her late pageant director, a female impersonator who performed as Carmella Marcella Garcia. The updo hairpiece and yellow gown made for a dynamic presentation in EG. (NT) -- No name, 17:18:08 01/23/26 Fri (c-73-206-250-152.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.206.250.152) George Timothy Reed. Died of bladder cancer a few years ago. (NT) -- No name, 12:21:34 01/25/26 Sun (syn-104-231-146-068.res.spectrum.com/104.231.146.68) I actually think guys who perform drag actually make great stylists because in their line of work to look believable they have to think hard about every aspect of the presentation and leave nothing to chance. (NT) -- No name, 15:14:02 01/25/26 Sun (194.sub-174-238-105.myvzw.com/174.238.105.194) Erika Dunlap Gown -- No name, 17:21:17 01/23/26 Fri (syn-068-202-059-035.res.spectrum.com/68.202.59.35) For an organization that stood for community service, talent and scholastic achievement, Dunlap was about an inch deep. I never understood her win and saw her speak a few times during her year and always walked away shaking my head. There were so many other better choices, especially Marina Harrison. I just chalk that year up to bad judges. (NT) -- No name, 18:24:53 01/23/26 Fri (NoHost/159.100.209.51) The two Erica's: Dunlap and Harrold. THE BEGINNING OF THE END. (NT) -- UGH, 15:08:27 01/25/26 Sun (c-76-106-49-125.hsd1.md.comcast.net/76.106.49.125) I would add Nia Franklin to Erica Dunlap and Erica Harold list. Nia was truly the rudest Miss America I have ever met. I watch her be especially rude to several young girls. (NT) -- No name, 01:42:50 01/26/26 Mon (173-31-227-184.client.mchsi.com/173.31.227.184) I competed with Nia in North Carolina. She has a very different personality that comes across rude. (NT) -- No name, 11:29:59 02/26/26 Thu (NoHost/136.226.50.112) How so? Introvert? (NT) -- No name, 12:58:45 02/26/26 Thu (66-90-170-243.static.grandenetworks.net/66.90.170.243) Wasn't she a kiddie pageant veteran? (NT) -- No name, 20:15:44 01/25/26 Sun (194.sub-174-238-105.myvzw.com/174.238.105.194) Tara Holland's dress won Miss America in preliminary competition. When she walked out in that dress, everyone sitting it Boardwalk Hall KNEW she was going to be Miss America. And she had the other goods to back it up. But that dress was stellar. (NT) -- No name, 12:04:09 01/26/26 Mon (syn-107-013-036-240.res.spectrum.com/107.13.36.240) Was that the same dress she wore in finals? If so, major difference of opinion. One of my least favorite winning gowns ever. (NT) -- No name, 13:10:35 01/26/26 Mon (194.sub-174-238-105.myvzw.com/174.238.105.194) You clearly were not sitting in Boardwalk Hall that week, then. (NT) -- No name, 10:52:45 01/31/26 Sat (syn-107-013-036-240.res.spectrum.com/107.13.36.240) Or maybe your opinion is not a fact, and they just disagree with you... (NT) -- Assuming you're an adult since you were in Boardwalk Hall in 1997, please act like one., 12:23:56 02/18/26 Wed (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) I had a director tell me stories of how Tara prepped for Miss Kansas and Miss America - there’s no doubt she was competing to win! (NT) -- No name, 18:15:04 01/29/26 Thu (75-163-205-28.clsp.qwest.net/75.163.205.28) I'm friends with a contestant that competed that year. She said she was polite but kept herself segregated from everyone that week. She was not there for Miss Congeniality. She was not popular among tge other contestants and many were upset that she won. My friend said she didn't really care one way or another, but a victory for one of the friendlier girls would have been nice. (NT) -- No name, 11:09:04 01/30/26 Fri (113.sub-174-216-10.myvzw.com/174.216.10.113) Only my opinion: Her win had much to do with her miles of teeth. (NT) -- It made her stand out., 16:24:43 01/31/26 Sat (226.sub-97-190-55.myvzw.com/97.190.55.226) When she won you can see Miss Texas and Miss Hawaii who were both in top 10 give this slow motion clap (NT) -- No name, 12:23:47 02/01/26 Sun (NoHost/172.58.244.222) Miss Texas that year had no business in that top 10. If you watch the interview video and then her onstage competition, it's totally clear she didn't belong there. I don't know how she got in, but she took a spot from one of the other girls who performed MUCH better all week. The rumor is that part of the backlash against Tara is that she supposedly had a wrist injury all week that prevented her from attending some of the rehearsals/events, yet when she was crowned, her hands and wrists went wild (NT) -- No name, 12:22:38 02/16/26 Mon (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) I think the judges wanted to crown Miss WI, the doctor, but she bombed the quiz, Osq and her talent wasn’t great that great during the telecast, plus I don’t think she wanted to win and that came through. Dunlap saw an opening and took it (NT) -- No name, 15:11:53 01/23/26 Fri (208.sub-174-202-161.myvzw.com/174.202.161.208) That was the year when prelim awards were given off of resumes and not what was presented on stage. WI never should have won talent and VA never should have won swimsuit. (NT) -- No name, 18:25:48 01/23/26 Fri (NoHost/159.100.209.51) If we're gonna drag DEI, that was on overload that year. Wisconsin totally contradicted herself about her dad dying because he attended her pageant. The swan died too (NT) -- No name, 12:47:06 01/29/26 Thu (NoHost/212.15.84.112) Sorry, but I don't think your correct about that. While he attened the Miss WI pageant, they missed a call because he was on a waiting list for a kidney transplant. I believe he passed away from the time she was crowned Miss Wi and before Miss America. (NT) -- No name, 22:34:57 01/29/26 Thu (184-97-57-142.lcrs.centurylink.net/184.97.57.142) Okay, sorry for the mistake. (NT) -- No name, 10:43:31 01/31/26 Sat (NoHost/212.15.84.241) Patricia Lei Anderson, Miss Hawaii 1963, was the 4th r/u. Up to the on-stage questions, she seemed to be leading. Her poise was exceptional; she sang an outstanding version of Un bel Di. Then, Bert asked her What was the most difficult thing for you during the past two weeks. She said, To keep my composure. (NT) -- no name, 23:44:42 01/30/26 Fri (226.sub-97-190-55.myvzw.com/97.190.55.226) That's an adorable answer. Judges would have had to have been huge sticks in the mud for that to have hurt her... I didn't think she was anywhere near leading at any point. I thought she was 6th of the Top 10 and was lucky to make Top 5. I don't think her answer helped or hurt her. My favorite that year was SC's Evelyn Ellis. (NT) -- Pageant Statistician, 15:52:54 02/16/26 Mon (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) Different strokes. She was way over SC in talent, poise and beauty. It is now on YouTube.It was her answer that cost her. (NT) -- no name, 18:38:40 02/16/26 Mon (226.sub-97-190-55.myvzw.com/97.190.55.226) Different strokes for sure. I thought SC bested HI in all areas of competition; and looks like the judges agreed with me. (NT) -- Pageant Statistician, 22:11:09 02/16/26 Mon (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) South Carolina was the eptiome of bland. Hawaii had it over that nondescrip blonde by a mile. (NT) -- SC no, 17:49:28 02/25/26 Wed (c-76-106-49-125.hsd1.md.comcast.net/76.106.49.125) Lord those talents of the top 10 were laughable for the most part. (NT) -- No name, 22:54:16 02/16/26 Mon (syn-070-113-128-069.res.spectrum.com/70.113.128.69)

Subject: Jennifer Makris Miss New Jersey 1994
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:58:34 02/24/26 Tue (NoHost/169.156.15.207) Please watch the crowning moment and the contestants reaction as she takes her walk..... https://youtu.be/5qkWo82wObQ?si=JadQGI--SUlEHQnf [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Interesting…. What was the story about her? Would love to see more from the 90s from NJ! (NT) -- No name, 13:53:10 02/24/26 Tue (66-90-170-243.static.grandenetworks.net/66.90.170.243) I thought she might win Miss America after her talent, if Heather Whitestone wasn't there. (NT) -- No name, 17:09:06 02/24/26 Tue (syn-174-100-040-048.res.spectrum.com/174.100.40.48) I never understand this opinion. I had her ranked number 8 out of that top 10 (NT) -- No name, 17:15:08 02/25/26 Wed (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) I didn't have her in the 10 (NT) -- No name, 16:12:08 02/27/26 Fri (c-76-106-111-48.hsd1.md.comcast.net/76.106.111.48) The opening number for the 1994 Miss New Jersey pageant was just a copy of what the 1985 Miss America pageant had (the show to select Miss America 1986(. But MAO host Gary Collins did much better stage appearance and vocally. But funny, the lyric of the opening song said "You ain't seen nothing, yet"----well, we have. See video link here from 1985, lol: -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdkXKOt5hmA, 17:55:42 02/24/26 Tue (NoHost/128.104.145.214) OK- Why is this appearing again? If the voters could elect a 34X convicted felon, I'm sure whatever the poor woman did to make you mad 32 years ago, has a statute of limitations. (NT) -- No name, 19:30:50 02/24/26 Tue (133-111-106-149.in-addr.arpa.pulsefiber.org/149.106.111.133) Wow the two ladies to her left and right were not happy with there win. Is that Gina Marcello to her right? And I see Michelle Harris who state hopped to Delaware the next year. lol (NT) -- No name, 11:01:16 02/25/26 Wed (c-69-255-232-98.hsd1.md.comcast.net/69.255.232.98) So what's the deal with why they reacted so bad? Jennifer was obviously a strong competitor. Was she rude or something? (NT) -- No name, 12:43:42 02/25/26 Wed (NoHost/136.226.50.112) Jennifer obviously thought she would win. Maybe her confidence got to some of the other contestants. Then again maybe she had a very vocal fan club. I've seen that happen. The year Amber Bennett won Miss Arkansas, her family blew air horns and it turned a lot of people off. (NT) -- No name, 14:36:16 02/28/26 Sat (NoHost/212.15.83.62) Didn’t NJ have state hoppers win in the 90s? (NT) -- No name, 20:20:25 02/25/26 Wed (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117) Who knows. This was thirty years ago. All I know, is that I have met Ms. Makris-Hill in person, and she is a sweetheart. (NT) -- No name, 12:38:35 02/25/26 Wed (NoHost/155.190.9.5) Maybe it was the pre Tara Dawn Holland syndrome . Not there to make friends..there to win. The girls all huddled together as though she wasn't even there (NT) -- No name, 18:36:11 02/25/26 Wed (NoHost/172.56.32.138) Her strategy worked. Was there to win, not make friends. It is a competition not a friendship circle. (NT) -- sonia, 21:18:42 02/25/26 Wed (ool-182f1de3.dyn.optonline.net/24.47.29.227) It might have helped her win it she missed out on making friends you can do both (NT) -- No name, 19:58:55 02/27/26 Fri (182.sub-174-221-153.myvzw.com/174.221.153.182) She coached me for a short while. Her life after Miss America has been rough -- No name, 21:31:44 02/25/26 Wed (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) How so? Not looking to dish dirt, just curious if it is something that can be discussed here. (NT) -- No name, 22:10:46 02/25/26 Wed (c-98-220-13-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net/98.220.13.180) She went thru a very ugly divorce and ended up filing bankruptcy. Not sure what she is doing now. I once told her that I felt she should have won MA but IMO the tide was turning to Heather Whitestone (NT) -- No name, 01:47:20 02/28/26 Sat (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) Sad. Life throws us so many curveballs. I saw a video of Cullen Johnson and how alcohol destroyed her life. She seemed so perfect at 22 . (NT) -- Sonia, 09:16:08 02/26/26 Thu (ool-182f1de3.dyn.optonline.net/24.47.29.227) Did you ever read the story of former Miss Arkansas 1977, Bunny Holbert? She was a preliminary swimsuit winner and tied for 10th place in the Top 10 meeting. At the last minute, she was bumped in favor of Miss Indiana, Barbara Mougin because of Barbara's stellar interview. Holbert was left out of the Top 10 in favor of Mougin, who went on to finish as 1st runner up. Holbert had a somewhat tragic life afterwards, living in shelters, homeless, etc. It makes you wonder if circumstances may have been different if she had advanced. Sometimes in life, one minor setback can set you up to fail. (NT) -- No name, 15:45:20 02/26/26 Thu (22.sub-174-247-4.myvzw.com/174.247.4.22) You are posting this as a response to a comment that mentions that alcohol destroyed the life of a different 1st runner-up, so I haven't the slightest clue what your thought process is here. (NT) -- What on Earth, 18:54:35 02/26/26 Thu (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) Shut up and eat your peas! Adults are talking! (NT) -- No name, 20:10:00 02/27/26 Fri (77.sub-174-216-3.myvzw.com/174.216.3.77) Cullen also battled an eating disorder. I remember reading about it in People magazine. I admire her candor. (NT) -- No name, 18:38:10 02/26/26 Thu (syn-076-176-242-118.res.spectrum.com/76.176.242.118) I remember her on stage question with Regis where she said she was sitting in the audience the year before when Kim Won. She obviously worked hard to Represent New Jersey at MA and Miss USA Making top 10 at both . (NT) -- No name, 09:03:14 02/28/26 Sat (NoHost/172.58.241.5) I think Ms. Makris-Hill is more famous than many MA winners. I thought she was a worthy contender in 1994, and she could have won the next year. I really do not care about the bitter clappers going after her nowadays, and like most all of us, deserves the benefit of the doubt. (NT) -- No name, 15:52:38 02/28/26 Sat (133-111-106-149.in-addr.arpa.pulsefiber.org/149.106.111.133)

Subject: Is anyone surprised we haven't seen much of Fatima Bosch? I wonder if icontestant numbers will decline this year.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:24:19 01/31/26 Sat (NoHost/69.250.36.194) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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She was in over her head making the semi-finals. So much bad reactions. Mexican intercessions. The list is very long. (NT) -- Europeans seem more natural to this Californian., 16:34:10 01/31/26 Sat (226.sub-97-190-55.myvzw.com/97.190.55.226) I don't get this racist fucking shit because of Cote d'Ivoire. Fraud owner, criminal owner, and imprisoned owner. (NT) -- No name, 22:05:25 02/03/26 Tue (27.49.15.141.convergeict.com/27.49.15.141) Haven’t seen much of Miss Teen USA either. What has Miss USA been up to? (NT) -- No name, 05:02:29 02/01/26 Sun (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117) I personally would be surprised to see another edition of that pageant. This past year was such a monumental train wreck never seen in the annals of pageantry. That organization has zero credibility. The only way to come back would be sell to a new owner, completely clean house of everyone involved with the old regime, and go back to the old rules. And then, just maybe they might have a chance. (NT) -- No name, 20:14:20 02/02/26 Mon (177.sub-174-238-99.myvzw.com/174.238.99.177) Agree Never have l seen such a mess (NT) -- No name, 23:22:33 02/02/26 Mon (4.sub-174-225-86.myvzw.com/174.225.86.4) Since they made a film about Miss World 1970, someone should definitely do another on this train wreck. It was like everything that could possibly go wrong happened. Curse of Miss Universe: Lowdown on the Hunt for the Crown (NT) -- No name, 15:40:20 02/03/26 Tue (177.sub-174-238-99.myvzw.com/174.238.99.177) She is currently in Puerto Rico and will probably travel to other Latin American countries since most national directors have posted their support. I doubt she will travel as much as the last two because the interest just isn't there. There are legal issues with the current USA directors and how exactly they were awarded the USA franchise while it was currently under contract to the former national director. (NT) -- ureka smoke, 10:44:44 02/03/26 Tue (ip68-100-118-42.dc.dc.cox.net/68.100.118.42) I've seen her in the DR and Honduras/Guatemala? Otherwise it's like crickets. Have not seen one appearance by Miss Teen USA. Audrey has made a handful, but they looked local as in NE. (NT) -- No name, 11:01:07 02/03/26 Tue (NoHost/69.250.36.194) Audrey was in Florida at an LPGA event over the weekend. (NT) -- Anon, 13:36:46 02/03/26 Tue (245.sub-174-226-72.myvzw.com/174.226.72.245) Fifi (NT) -- Fifi, 22:28:26 02/03/26 Tue (mobile-107-77-216-141.mobile.att.net/107.77.216.141) I find it strange that some people want Paula back at Miss universe when she was there working in good conscience while Donald Trump was bragging about going backstage and seeing teenagers and women changing and getting naked. I just think she’s a scumbag and the biggest enemy to female empowerment… her and Shawn… and that creep Miguel Martinez. (NT) -- SweetDarling, 09:51:41 02/23/26 Mon (NoHost/146.75.223.161) ...I find it strange that some people keep saying female empowerment. Just a stupid slogan. First, did anyone check to find out which dressing room then-Miss Universe co-president/owner Donald Trump was at when he spoke with Miss Teen-USA contestants (and which year was it)? There are often two or even three dressing rooms, one which is the nudity room when clothes/swimsuits are changed, then there is the tv dressing room which shows make-up artists/hairdressers fussing with the contestants just for the tv camera, and there is another dressing room just off to the entrance of the theatre, like a tv show green room for David Letterman, Jay Leno, or Jimmy Kimmel, where contestants get the cue to go on stage. I am no defender of Trump with anything, but he most surely was in one the two latter examples. But where is the -- so-called female empowerment of the contestants asking Trump to leave?, 19:57:26 02/24/26 Tue (NoHost/128.104.145.214) Well he said they were changing so not sure why you are trying to marginalize his own words but plenty of contestants signed strict NDAs and even if he didn’t walk in, why you would think it is appropriate to say such things at all or why it would be good for branding would be okay… but do you. (NT) -- sweetdarling, 18:58:45 02/27/26 Fri (NoHost/146.75.223.160)

Subject: Liked the least ??
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:51:56 02/17/26 Tue (NoHost/172.56.3.104) I guess I know the answer to this but are 4th runners up chosen as to say out of the top 5 we liked you the least or is it more to it than that. I mean after all....we never see scores. Just wondering how its determined. I'm guess a ranking [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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My daughter made top 5 in a competitive state at 18. She completely bombed her top 5 question. We all knew she was 4th RU at them moment. I think she was 1st RU before that but she showed she needed more work and did make it to Atlantic City later on!! (NT) -- No name, 17:41:30 02/18/26 Wed (NoHost/172.59.225.248) Wonderful (NT) -- No name, 21:18:26 02/18/26 Wed (56.sub-174-221-151.myvzw.com/174.221.151.56) You are being negative, the top 5 are the ones that the judges liked the most ( out of the 51) As they say any of the top five would be a good Miss America (NT) -- No name, 21:07:31 02/20/26 Fri (82.sub-174-227-77.myvzw.com/174.227.77.82) I think this depends upon whether the result is based upon total points throughout the competition or whether there is a top 5 ballot. If it's just total points, then 4th runner-up is someone who was scoring well throughout the pageant or had a really strong talent or interview score that boosted them, but just fell short in total points against four other contestants. If it is a top 5 ballot result, then the 4th runner up was the one who the judges collectively felt was the least ready or capable of holding the title. That doesn't mean they were disliked. (NT) -- No name, 10:27:10 02/26/26 Thu (NoHost/159.100.209.52)

Subject: Were there any other contestants besides Cheryl, Mary Louise and Abugail who competed at Miss PA then went on to win another state title?
Author: d... [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:42:36 02/12/26 Thu (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Do you mean Abigail instead of Abrugail? (NT) -- No name, 22:36:29 02/12/26 Thu (c-73-255-122-212.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.255.122.212) Abigail. (NT) -- d..., 02:25:59 02/13/26 Fri (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92) Misty Clymer (NT) -- No name, 01:29:06 02/13/26 Fri (155.sub-174-238-96.myvzw.com/174.238.96.155) Was that Miss NC debacle ever resolved? Last I heard, no one was being recognized that year, as if that year's Miss NC just didn't exist at all (NT) -- No name, 18:45:02 02/15/26 Sun (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) Yes, we were all in a dream that year....just like that season of Dallas. I knew both Rebekah and Misty. In addition, at different times of the year I saw both of them wearing the Miss NC crown. Most insane legal ruling that I've ever seen. It was almost as if the judge just decided he did not want to have to think too hard about what was the right thing to do. (NT) -- No name, 17:35:28 02/16/26 Mon (155.sub-174-238-96.myvzw.com/174.238.96.155) there was a Miss NJ in the early 80's, Toni ???? who was from PA and competed there a few times and went to NJ and won there. Some people questioned her residency when she won NJ and there was some controversy about that. Can't remember her last name though. (NT) -- No name, 10:57:31 02/13/26 Fri (NoHost/159.100.209.51) Toni Georgiana (NT) -- No name, 20:09:07 02/13/26 Fri (c-73-152-253-5.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.152.253.5) Bethlene Pancoast was from PA and won Miss NY when she was in school there. (NT) -- No name, 11:09:17 02/13/26 Fri (NoHost/159.100.209.51) Courtney Bearer won Miss WV 2025…didn’t Mackenzie Bart compete in PA a few times before she started in OH? (NT) -- No name, 14:22:36 02/13/26 Fri (NoHost/68.183.157.101) PA contestants that won in other states -- No name, 14:55:34 02/13/26 Fri (c-71-230-198-106.hsd1.pa.comcast.net/71.230.198.106) You act like we know or remember these people by a first-name basis....who is Cheryl, Mary Louise, and Abbigail? Or is it Abugail?? If you are asking about Miss New Jersey 1985, Toni Georgiana she was from PA. -- List their full names and title year would be helpful. Who are they? And why just PA?, 20:22:37 02/13/26 Fri (NoHost/144.92.78.242) Some people did seem to know I think but I get whar ypu are saying. (NT) -- d..., 23:42:52 02/13/26 Fri (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92) Brittany Lewis was Miss Greater Reading 2012 and runner up to Miss PA that year, then was 1st runner up to Miss DE 2014 (who was then dethroned) and Brittney resumed the title. (NT) -- No name, 10:43:49 02/14/26 Sat (NoHost/69.250.36.194) Well am the same who is Cheryl and Mary Louise named above and from what states -- and when/how many times competed in the Miss Pennsylvania Scholarship pageant?, 14:02:38 02/14/26 Sat (NoHost/199.91.248.226) Cheryl Majercik, who went on to become Miss Illinois 1991? She competed in PA when she was at Curtis Institute. Mary-Louise Kurey competed in PA twice when she was in grad school in Pittsburgh and competed her final year in her home state of WI and won. (NT) -- No name, 17:20:43 02/14/26 Sat (c-98-220-13-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net/98.220.13.180) Speaking of Mary-Louise Kurey, I distinctly remember the year she won Miss Wisconsin. She won no preliminary awards and the song she performed I believe was "Almost Love"? Anyway, it was dreadful. Her first runner-up had been a double preliminary winner, and it seemed obvious that she was going to be the next Miss WI. It truly was one of those WTH moments. Anyway, the judges must have known what they were doing because fast forward to Miss America, Mary-Louise changed her talent to "Il Bacio" and it won her a talent award. She received styling help and interview prep and was definitely a contender for Miss America. But that was the first year that only the top 5 performed their talent, and she didn't make the top 5. It was very disappointing. (NT) -- No name, 11:47:21 02/15/26 Sun (184-97-57-142.lcrs.centurylink.net/184.97.57.142) Who was the first runner up? (NT) -- No name, 22:13:51 02/16/26 Mon (c-73-255-122-212.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.255.122.212) ....Who was the 1999 first runner-up at Miss Wisconsin you are remembering---and did she compete before her runner-up placement in 1999--and did she return again, how did she do? Also, if Mary Louse Kurey sang "Il Bacio (The Kiss) Waltz" by Luigi Arditi at Miss America---then that is the same opera number that another Miss Wisconsin sang (and won preliminary talent with) 13 years later when -- Laura Kaeppeler was named Miss America in 2012. Interesting trivia., 23:30:36 02/16/26 Mon (NoHost/144.92.78.242) The first runner-up was Miss Racine Catherine Apilado. It was the first time she competed at Miss WI and she never returned. She worked at Disney World for 13 years, I'm assuming after she graduated from college. And yes, Laura did sing the same song that Mary-Louise peformed. I believe that Laura wore the same talent gown at Miss WI that Mary-Louise used on the Miss America stage. (NT) -- No name, 20:04:29 02/17/26 Tue (184-97-57-142.lcrs.centurylink.net/184.97.57.142) Laura borrowed Mary-Louise's Miss America talent gown for Miss Wisconsin. But when Laura sang at Miss America, she wore a red Tony Bowls gown. Laura also used Mary-Louise's arrangement, except it had to be shortened by 30 seconds to meet the 90 second talent time limit. (NT) -- No name, 14:23:21 02/18/26 Wed (NoHost/148.59.75.51) ......As the 1999 Miss Wisconsin state pageant first runner-up, did Miss Racine 1999 Catherine Apilado at least got to compete at Miss National Sweetheart in Hoopeston, Illinois that year? -- Not sure about Wisconsin--but many states back then sent their first runner-up to that contest., 20:01:28 02/24/26 Tue (NoHost/128.104.145.214) If you look at the former Miss North Carolina page, Misty is pictured. Cleverly written by her name "Represented NC at the Miss America Pageant" (NT) -- No name, 12:46:36 02/25/26 Wed (NoHost/136.226.50.112)

Subject: Does anyone have the dates for Miss America this year? Will it be Sept. 5 through the 13th?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:09:39 02/04/26 Wed (NoHost/146.75.222.184) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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It would think it depends on who the owner is…. (NT) -- No name, 19:19:51 02/04/26 Wed (134.sub-174-246-193.myvzw.com/174.246.193.134) Robin owns the business and will decide when & where it is most profitable to be held, just as she has for the past 3 years. We'll all know when she wants us to know. (NT) -- No name, 11:43:39 02/07/26 Sat (NoHost/172.59.224.155) Latest Lawsuit News (NT) -- No name, 12:02:31 02/07/26 Sat (NoHost/172.59.224.155) Wow....a man with a fifth grade education owning a scholarship organization for women embroiled in a lawsuit against his former gold digging girlfriend. This just gets better and better. You could not write this stuff! (NT) -- T, 14:36:20 02/07/26 Sat (238.sub-174-238-97.myvzw.com/174.238.97.238) Are the lawsuits with the previous production company still going on? (NT) -- No name, 18:53:00 02/23/26 Mon (syn-172-254-022-154.biz.spectrum.com/172.254.22.154)

Subject: Favorite first runner-ups. Patricia Brant.
Author: d... [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:10:30 01/15/26 Thu (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Hard to disagree. That was my first year attending Miss A in person and I was quite impressed with her. (NT) -- No name, 23:38:27 01/15/26 Thu (216-24-92-182.unassigned.ntelos.net/216.24.92.182) Teresa Cheatham, Virginia Cha, Michelle Warren, Kelly Bradshaw, and Aly Rogers. (NT) -- No name, 02:13:27 01/16/26 Fri (NoHost/108.147.173.20) All the above named ladies were excellent choices but as time moved on each year, it was easy to see that the right winner was chosen. (NT) -- No name, 10:35:58 01/16/26 Fri (216-24-92-182.unassigned.ntelos.net/216.24.92.182) Bridget Oei was terrific (NT) -- No name, 08:44:27 01/16/26 Fri (c-73-123-39-2.hsd1.ma.comcast.net/73.123.39.2) She would’ve been a great and smart Miss America (NT) -- No name, 17:29:58 01/31/26 Sat (NoHost/172.56.226.17) Faith Jenkins... Elyse Eddy....Both should have won (NT) -- No name, 10:37:22 01/16/26 Fri (NoHost/169.156.15.222) I do not agree. Angela was my favorite over Faith. Faith's biggest drawback was her accent. (NT) -- No name, 13:50:12 01/16/26 Fri (NoHost/155.190.9.5) Faith was catapulted to the top by her double preliminary wins that were corrected when they threw out the scoring of the judge who previously judged Miss TX. Without his scores, we wouldn't have heard Faith's name called during prelims. She i s pretty but when I met her prior to Miss A she was quiet and seemed shy. (NT) -- No name, 14:04:31 01/22/26 Thu (NoHost/163.116.254.48) I think her prelim wins were deserved. Also think her first ru spot was deserved. (NT) -- No name, 00:23:54 01/23/26 Fri (61.sub-174-220-201.myvzw.com/174.220.201.61) In addition to Faith Jenkins winning Preliminary Talent and Swimsuir, she also won Quality of Life. In the end, she won more scholarship $$$ than Angie did. (NT) -- No name, 12:02:13 02/05/26 Thu (NoHost/172.56.80.0) Faith Jenkins -- Tim, 10:25:01 02/07/26 Sat (76.sub-174-200-72.myvzw.com/174.200.72.76) Maya Walker and Cullen Johnson (NT) -- No name, 17:38:38 01/16/26 Fri (syn-104-231-146-068.res.spectrum.com/104.231.146.68) I wonder if Cullen Johnson had won, would she have still had her issues? (NT) -- No name, 18:53:38 01/16/26 Fri (159.sub-174-238-96.myvzw.com/174.238.96.159) What issues? (NT) -- No name, 15:07:42 02/01/26 Sun (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) I am a 29-year recovering alcoholic. I can attest that addiction is a disease. I think winning the title would have aggravated her situation. It's like skiing with a compromised leg. I wasn't as successful as I could have been while I was drinking; I regret so many decisions I made back then. After I was sober; it was like I had wings. (NT) -- No name, 14:24:41 02/17/26 Tue (syn-174-100-040-048.res.spectrum.com/174.100.40.48) It didn't stop Nina (NT) -- No name, 12:21:21 02/21/26 Sat (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) Chasity Hardman should have won her year. (NT) -- No name, 19:01:03 01/16/26 Fri (send.leadsmailstream.com/168.235.94.33) Faith and Patricia tier 1. Honorable mention goes to Elyse and Jade Smalls. (NT) -- sonia, 19:22:21 01/16/26 Fri (ool-182f1de3.dyn.optonline.net/24.47.29.227) Catherine Monroe, Miss Massachusetts 1968 first runnerup to Judy Ford. GORGEOUS!!!! (NT) -- ME, 19:45:45 01/16/26 Fri (c-76-106-49-125.hsd1.md.comcast.net/76.106.49.125) Yes, she definitely has one of the most beautiful faces ever at Miss America. Talent was weak as water though. But, who needs talent if you look like that? (NT) -- No name, 00:29:50 01/23/26 Fri (254.sub-174-210-67.myvzw.com/174.210.67.254) Courtney Garrett from VA. She was on fire that night and was my pick when it came down to the five. (NT) -- No name, 20:37:35 01/16/26 Fri (NoHost/172.56.67.19) Yes, a thousand times, yes! (NT) -- No name, 13:54:54 01/17/26 Sat (NoHost/212.15.83.254) Crazy how different opinions can be! Of the 60 pageants I've seen, I'd rank her as the 58th 1RU. (NT) -- Pageant Statistician, 15:35:33 01/18/26 Sun (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) Wow. Care to elaborate on why? (NT) -- No name, 22:12:02 01/19/26 Mon (NoHost/172.56.64.164) I thought she was average across the board. (NT) -- Pageant Statistician, 21:47:43 01/21/26 Wed (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) yes, I didn't have her in the top 5 (NT) -- No name, 19:51:08 02/21/26 Sat (c-76-106-111-48.hsd1.md.comcast.net/76.106.111.48) Crystal Lee (NT) -- No name, 21:36:28 01/16/26 Fri (wkt-bband-152-38-106-90.wk.net/152.38.106.90) Lauren Bradford, Michelle Warren, Paige Phillips, Cullen Johnson, Alyse Eddy (NT) -- No name, 21:43:57 01/16/26 Fri (207.sub-174-212-41.myvzw.com/174.212.41.207) Lauren Bradford may have nailed her Miss America interview, but her talent was horendous. Even after having a second chance to perform it, it still amazes me that she placed that high. (NT) -- No name, 19:30:29 01/19/26 Mon (184-97-57-142.lcrs.centurylink.net/184.97.57.142) I loved Paige Phillips (NT) -- No name, 12:57:08 02/09/26 Mon (c-76-106-111-48.hsd1.md.comcast.net/76.106.111.48) (1967) Charlene Dallas, (1987) Julianne Smith, (1988) Patricia Brant, (2006) Monica Pang, (2017) Rachel Wyatt. (NT) -- Pageant Statistician, 23:12:24 01/16/26 Fri (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) Charlene Dallas, Judy Heike, Karen Herd, Abbie Rabine. (NT) -- No name., 01:59:34 01/17/26 Sat (226.sub-97-190-55.myvzw.com/97.190.55.226) Charlene Dallas and Karen Hurd for sure. (NT) -- No name, 20:38:40 02/20/26 Fri (c-73-90-200-19.hsd1.ca.comcast.net/73.90.200.19) Betty Thompson -- Fan, 17:39:55 01/17/26 Sat (NoHost/172.59.124.35) Catherine Ann Lemkau (NT) -- No name, 08:22:32 01/18/26 Sun (pool-141-151-23-6.phlapa.fios.verizon.net/141.151.23.6) Two California beauties who interestingly did not win their state pageants: Charlene Dallas and Lucianne Buchanan. (NT) -- California girls, 22:18:05 01/18/26 Sun (c-76-106-49-125.hsd1.md.comcast.net/76.106.49.125) Bridget Oei & Michelle Warren (NT) -- No name, 18:24:56 01/19/26 Mon (47-164-102-138.bng03.wtrb.ct.frontiernet.net/47.164.102.138) Conndďie Dorn (72) Susan Lawrence (75) Michelle Warren (98) Kelli Bradshaw (99) (NT) -- No name, 04:37:36 01/20/26 Tue (124.sub-174-247-0.myvzw.com/174.247.0.124) Crystal Lee (CA), Ellie Breaux (TX), Ali Rogers (SC), Annette Addo-Yobo (TX) (NT) -- No name, 09:30:00 01/22/26 Thu (NoHost/12.233.34.186) I don't know anyone who was as happy to be named first runner-up as Marisol Montalvo. I think Marisol wanted to get as much scholarship dollars as possible without having to serve as Miss America. And she did with her first runner-up placement and preliminary talent award. Already an opera singer, I don't think Marisol wanted to loose momentum she already built up for her eventual successful career. (NT) -- No name, 20:59:56 01/22/26 Thu (NoHost/162.10.197.194) Another was Kelli Bradshaw. I really don't think she wanted to be Miss America but wanted to get as close as she could. (NT) -- No name, 00:31:48 01/23/26 Fri (254.sub-174-210-67.myvzw.com/174.210.67.254) I agree. I did not know Kelli but I chatted with her briefly at the afterglow that night and she seemed almost delirious to have been first runner-up. (NT) -- No name, 10:24:20 01/23/26 Fri (216-24-92-182.unassigned.ntelos.net/216.24.92.182) Marisol was an incredible talent, but, in my opinion, that was all she had going. I preferred Mary Allison Hurdle and Soncee Brown over Sapp and Montalvo. I also would have had Soyoung Kwan in the top 5. (NT) -- No name, 11:38:57 01/23/26 Fri (c-98-220-13-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net/98.220.13.180) Marisol did an interview afterwards and said that she was only there for the $ because she wanted to win as much scholarship as she could without being Miss America because she wanted to perform on Broadway. I believe she accomplished both (NT) -- No name, 13:21:08 01/23/26 Fri (NoHost/169.156.15.204) She wasn't really a pretty girl. There was a certain hard quality about her. No wonder the attitude. (NT) -- no name, 00:01:40 01/27/26 Tue (226.sub-97-190-55.myvzw.com/97.190.55.226) Attitude? She used the system for what it is intended to be, a source of scholarships. Not everyone who enters this thing, wants the crown at the end. (NT) -- No name, 03:09:51 01/27/26 Tue (c-73-152-253-5.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.152.253.5) If she didn't want the win perhaps she could have resigned for some good reason. Now it seems like sour grapes. (NT) -- no name., 23:49:54 01/30/26 Fri (226.sub-97-190-55.myvzw.com/97.190.55.226) Mary Allison Hurdle was my pick that year. Gorgeous and talented. Loved her. (NT) -- No name, 09:42:28 02/23/26 Mon (75-144-226-225-Tallahassee.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/75.144.226.225) Rachel Wyatt though I don't think anyone was more relieved that night when she was called RU. She remains the only OT winner to come that close to winning MA. (NT) -- ureka smoke, 08:32:51 01/28/26 Wed (ip68-100-118-42.dc.dc.cox.net/68.100.118.42) Alyse Eady. Should have won. (NT) -- No name, 11:05:28 01/28/26 Wed (NoHost/216.125.37.210) Melissa Bradley -- No name, 13:47:44 01/28/26 Wed (NoHost/155.190.9.5) She stole our hearts! (NT) -- No name, 15:09:33 01/28/26 Wed (NoHost/216.125.37.210) Shade.... (NT) -- No name, 11:40:30 01/29/26 Thu (113.sub-174-216-10.myvzw.com/174.216.10.113) Did she really steal? It seems as if she got off with it and this was never actually proven? How did she even win the Miss Ohio title if this were true? (NT) -- No name, 01:50:27 01/30/26 Fri (NoHost/172.56.64.164) She took a plea deal and the judge strongly advised her not to compete at Miss Ohio again because he didn’t think she was a good role model for young women, she did anyways and he was furious when he found out she won and contacted pageant officials (NT) -- No name, 01:53:06 01/31/26 Sat (ip98-162-249-128.ok.ok.cox.net/98.162.249.128) She thought the store was like the modern day Kohl's; you picked up everything you wanted and then paid for everything at the front of the store. They say she drifted from one store department to the next, unaware of the cashier station in the department she walked out of. She was still in the store, just not in the right department. No criminal record before that. (NT) -- No name, 13:54:19 02/03/26 Tue (syn-174-100-040-048.res.spectrum.com/174.100.40.48) Well, that's just asinine. Anyone who is thinking about something else could have done that. For years this girl has been portrayed as an out and out thief, when it could have been an honest mistake. (NT) -- No name, 15:32:52 02/03/26 Tue (177.sub-174-238-99.myvzw.com/174.238.99.177) That may be true but I did hear that this wasn’t her first shop lifting incident and that was why the judge was so tough on her. Not sure how true that is though. (NT) -- No name, 10:44:40 02/05/26 Thu (NoHost/172.56.66.17) Oh Honey- I grew up in Mansfield (home of the state pageant). It wasn’t a “mistake” of her walking through O’Neils, not knowing where to pay. She got away with it until she didn’t. She was a bit older and I was envious she had an involved mom & got everything handed to her- gowns, costumes, wardrobe. Her parents would take her to Florida to tan for the pageant. In my mind, she had it made, so I couldn’t believe someone as spoiled as she was felt entitled to just take. She was given everything, but it wasn’t enough. (NT) -- No name, 18:33:24 02/05/26 Thu (NoHost/146.75.223.112) Someone is eating sour grapes. It was forty years ago, time to move on. (NT) -- No name, 13:57:31 02/17/26 Tue (NoHost/155.190.9.5) Doesn't sound like sour grapes to me as much correcting the record for the enabling sychophants still out there trying to do damage control (NT) -- No name, 12:27:21 02/21/26 Sat (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) Oh, get over yourself. (NT) -- No name, 12:45:18 02/21/26 Sat (50-79-221-253-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/50.79.221.253) You first, pup (NT) -- No name, 19:43:45 02/21/26 Sat (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) You can hear the audible disappointment when Kathy Manning is called second runnerup. That was a tough year. Sharlene was way ahead of her counterparts in maturity, bilingual and very talented. Melissa probable had the underdog vote because of the bad press, Kathy was gorgeous and charming and Tamara was gorgeous too. (NT) -- No name, 13:35:36 01/29/26 Thu (NoHost/212.15.84.120) Yes, Manning was gorgeous, but so was every Miss Mississippi. And I have that on good authority because Suzanne Sugarbaker said so! She said, very emphatically " You will never see a homely Miss Mississippi!" So, there you have it. The Gospel According to Suzanne. (NT) -- No name, 15:29:19 01/29/26 Thu (113.sub-174-216-10.myvzw.com/174.216.10.113) I thought Bradley was trying to copy Debbie Maffett’s style. Texas had the misfortune of being put in another dated looking dress B. Don picked also her and KY were the computer picks to win which more times than not doomed a contestant. That was a year where the top 5 were the best of the top 10 with the exception of Mary Ann Farrell. Maryline Blackburn Miss Alaska should’ve made it in over Miss Hawaii or Miss Tennessee (NT) -- No name, 23:45:22 01/29/26 Thu (ip98-162-249-128.ok.ok.cox.net/98.162.249.128) For her talent, Maryline Blackburn sang, "I am what I am", and she performed like a professional. At the Miss Alaska contest, she defeated the future governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin who came in third, if I remember correctly. (NT) -- Sarah had a different surname as she wasn't married yet., 16:43:08 01/31/26 Sat (226.sub-97-190-55.myvzw.com/97.190.55.226) I remember that talent act just from the little snippet they showed on TV that year. I remember thinking she must have been really good. (NT) -- No name, 17:53:15 01/31/26 Sat (177.sub-174-238-99.myvzw.com/174.238.99.177) Wasn’t Bradley a former national teen pageanr winner?. Miss National Teenager? Back in the day when each state had a pageant and sent winner all expenses paid to nationals? (NT) -- And the national winner won a car and a trip/photo op at the White House?, 05:27:10 02/01/26 Sun (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117) Does that pageant still exist. A friend of mine ( she actually taught me to drive a stick shift, lol) won our state. They had almost 80 contestants. (NT) -- No name, 14:21:52 02/01/26 Sun (177.sub-174-238-99.myvzw.com/174.238.99.177) Shilah Phillips Miss Texas 2007 However Oklahoma ended up back to back (NT) -- No name, 19:14:37 02/05/26 Thu (NoHost/172.56.3.104) Interesting that Susan Powell Who was a judge was pre selected to ask Oklahoma her question which her answer was kinda blah (NT) -- No name, 11:02:50 02/06/26 Fri (NoHost/169.156.15.207) Have you ever met Shilah? She isn't "scholastically" enough to be Miss A, IJS. Perhaps others might disagree, I doubt it. (NT) -- No name, 22:59:33 02/14/26 Sat (c-73-206-250-152.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.206.250.152) Catherine Anne Lemkau. I still maintain she should have won over Leanza. (NT) -- No name, 16:19:39 02/06/26 Fri (NoHost/209.40.108.217) I certainly think she was well on her way to winning until Leanza totally disarmed the entire audience and judges in the last discussion with Regis. I think Leanza herself was shocked. (NT) -- No name, 20:49:48 02/06/26 Fri (NoHost/212.15.84.93) I totally agree with you on this one. (NT) -- No name, 21:55:12 02/06/26 Fri (c-98-220-13-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net/98.220.13.180) I am not sure who is agreeing with who on this one, but Leanza deserved that win. She rocked that interview segment and her talent selection was awesome. It was a new song to most of the world at the time but if you listen to a few times it really grabs you. i will grant you that Catherine had one of the most powerful voices we have heard but Leanza had the total package. (NT) -- No name, 23:52:13 02/06/26 Fri (216-24-92-182.unassigned.ntelos.net/216.24.92.182) Leanza also had the talent of flirting with her eyes. She used the skills she learned at Disney well. (NT) -- No name, 14:30:12 02/17/26 Tue (syn-174-100-040-048.res.spectrum.com/174.100.40.48) Catherine's talent is one of my favorites, but I agree that Leanza also nailed "A New Life." "Someone Like You" was also a new song at the time. It was actually the first time I had ever heard it, and I loved the way she connected with the audience at the very end. That was one of the years when either of the top two would have been a great choice. (NT) -- No name, 03:33:23 02/07/26 Sat (184-97-57-142.lcrs.centurylink.net/184.97.57.142) ....It was interesting---the top three that year (1992) all sang numbers from 1990 hit musical "Jekyll and Mr. Hyde"----Miss America 1993, Eva Leanza Cornett (Florida) sang "A New Life", while first runner-up Catherine Ann Lemkau (Iowa) performed "Someone Like You"---won preliminary talent---- -- and then second runner-up Shelli Renee Yoder (Indiana) sang "This Is the Moment"., 22:18:16 02/10/26 Tue (NoHost/144.92.78.242) Leanza was very engaging in the top 5 interview, whereas Lemkau mentioned twice that she was "recruited" to enter the pageant. I don't think MAO wanted to hear that all year long. Leanza's song selection was perfect for her platform, and she sang it beautifully! (NT) -- No name, 14:05:20 02/12/26 Thu (NoHost/163.116.129.116) I legit cringed each time that Lemkau boasted about being recruited to enter Miss A, but I was all in for Leanza. She said that she happened upon Lemkau later, in CA, and that Lemkau was an aspiring actress. I guess U should Google her. (NT) -- No name, 22:40:59 02/14/26 Sat (c-73-206-250-152.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.206.250.152) https://24.fandom.com/wiki/Cathy_Herd (NT) -- No name, 22:51:17 02/14/26 Sat (c-73-206-250-152.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.206.250.152) Lisa Somodi and Catherine Lemkau were in the same graduating class at Muscatine High School in Iowa. I wonder if Lisa was the one who recruited her. (NT) -- No name, 15:47:13 02/18/26 Wed (syn-174-100-040-048.res.spectrum.com/174.100.40.48) Catherine just did not have the look at all. Leanza looked like a Miss America and was miles ahead of Catherine for that in my opinion. (NT) -- No name, 16:58:15 02/07/26 Sat (NoHost/172.56.66.17) Did not have the look?? I could name several women that were chosen as Miss America that didn't have the look, but Catherine Lemkau certainly would not have been one of them. (NT) -- No name, 16:58:33 02/08/26 Sun (184-97-57-142.lcrs.centurylink.net/184.97.57.142) Well she didn’t win for a reason and the person that beat her was prettier than her. (NT) -- No name, 22:39:48 02/08/26 Sun (NoHost/172.56.66.17) Catherine was MILES more attractive than Leanza. (NT) -- No name, 08:26:13 02/09/26 Mon (144.sub-97-181-234.myvzw.com/97.181.234.144) You have got to be a close family member of hers or kidding to say that. The two of them standing together Catherine looked like a basic middle aged housewife and Leanza was simply gorgeous. You’re delusional. (NT) -- No name, 09:47:06 02/09/26 Mon (NoHost/172.56.66.17) Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I have not yet commented on this topic, but I was pulling for Lemkau all the way. (NT) -- No name, 12:04:34 02/09/26 Mon (NoHost/159.100.209.51) She did perform well but she seemed so boring and not memorable. She didn’t have that spark that said Miss America… (NT) -- No name, 17:22:47 02/09/26 Mon (NoHost/172.56.66.17) She looked like Kim Carnes older sister (NT) -- No name, 20:44:22 02/09/26 Mon (95.sub-174-202-167.myvzw.com/174.202.167.95) .....but does Catherine have those Bette Davis eyes?? lol See here and you tell us: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYNaw2azEjg -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlZEdyo6uwY, 22:22:43 02/10/26 Tue (NoHost/144.92.78.242) Well of anyone noticed...Regis and Kathie lee were wearing the aids ribbons so could that have given Leanza bonus points...I say yes (NT) -- No name, 06:49:27 02/07/26 Sat (NoHost/172.56.3.104) If not of (NT) -- No name, 06:50:35 02/07/26 Sat (NoHost/172.56.3.104) My pick is Cullen Johnson who competed as Miss Virginia & was 1st RU to Heather Whitestone in 1995. Any other year and I believe she would have won. (NT) -- No name, 12:19:48 02/07/26 Sat (NoHost/172.59.224.155) If she had waited a year she would have been chosen over Shawntel (NT) -- No name, 12:38:06 02/07/26 Sat (NoHost/172.56.3.104) Who was Miss VA the next year? With a totally different group of contestants and a totally different set of judges, it's possible that she could have won. It's also highly possible that she wouldn't have even made top 10. The stars aligned for her just right that year and she excelled. Just because she stood out in one group of 50 doesnt necessarily mean she would have in a different group of 50. I thought Heather and Cullen were a perfect final two. (NT) -- No name, 21:07:21 02/07/26 Sat (syn-107-013-036-240.res.spectrum.com/107.13.36.240) Would have been a bit awkward had Cullen won over Heather. I mean with the pointing and all (NT) -- No name, 13:12:24 02/08/26 Sun (NoHost/172.56.3.104) I don't agree with that. I never saw all of the hype around Cullen Johnson. From her hair falling in her face, to the baggy gown, to the bad spray tan on her hands, I found her talent to be average. She was a deserving swimsuit winner, but I felt there stronger contestants that year. I liked Indiana, Montana and Ohio that year. I also did not have NJ in the top 5. (NT) -- No name, 01:10:26 02/09/26 Mon (NoHost/159.100.209.51) I agree. I feel that Montana and Ohio should have placed much higher. (NT) -- No name, 14:37:44 02/09/26 Mon (NoHost/155.190.9.5) Miss Montana was adorable that year. Then a few years later, Wyoming had a top five contestant i believe. And of course in recent years, we have winners from North Dakota and Alaska. Always nice to see the little states do well. (Meaning of course little in population.0 (NT) -- No name, 23:38:27 02/09/26 Mon (216-24-92-182.unassigned.ntelos.net/216.24.92.182) Alaska is like a separate country. Most of the contestants are from their more populated cities. People from different parts of the huge state are not alike. But the talent is pretty good overall. They do well in interview but need more sophistication to answer tricky questions, imo. (NT) -- Statehood brought in many nationalities, but the weather is still a factor., 02:31:22 02/12/26 Thu (226.sub-97-190-55.myvzw.com/97.190.55.226) Still remember Maryline Blackburn's talent clip on the telecast. Wish I could have seen the whole thing. (NT) -- No name, 22:57:25 02/14/26 Sat (155.sub-174-238-96.myvzw.com/174.238.96.155) I think it was like 25 years later that Wyoming had a top 5 (NT) -- No name, 12:27:06 02/21/26 Sat (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) Her gown was baggy? I thought it fit her like a glove (NT) -- No name, 12:27:13 02/21/26 Sat (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) Paige Phillips, none have surpassed her thus far, for me. (NT) -- No name, 22:57:40 02/15/26 Sun (NoHost/212.15.83.178) She was so talented but is it true she was only17!?! (NT) -- No name, 10:53:19 02/16/26 Mon (syn-070-113-128-069.res.spectrum.com/70.113.128.69) Most historical documents list her as seventeen, but I have seen Birmingham newspaper documents that list her as eighteen and an aspiring freshman at Birmingham Southern College. (NT) -- No name, 08:08:50 02/17/26 Tue (NoHost/212.15.83.176) She was 17 but turned 18 shortly after (NT) -- No name, 15:08:32 02/17/26 Tue (129.sub-174-202-161.myvzw.com/174.202.161.129) I’ll have to agree with you on Patricia!! She was so great! (NT) -- No name, 09:14:24 02/16/26 Mon (92.sub-174-202-101.myvzw.com/174.202.101.92) I actually liked Virginia Cha !! (NT) -- No name, 15:18:04 02/19/26 Thu (NoHost/172.56.3.104) Surprised no one has mentioned Erica Schwarz from Louisiana. Had to be close between her and Tara Dawn and she was very strong in all phases. Plus beautiful with a great personality. Had it been the next year she went she could have Louisianas first and only Miss America (NT) -- No name, 06:48:34 02/20/26 Fri (NoHost/172.56.66.17) Erica Schwarz 100% should have won. Probably one of the biggest pageant shocks for me. (NT) -- No name, 14:57:02 02/20/26 Fri (NoHost/136.226.50.125) Erika Schwarz was great. I always thought that Jennifer Makris competed a year late. (NT) -- No name, 03:08:53 02/21/26 Sat (133-111-106-149.in-addr.arpa.pulsefiber.org/149.106.111.133) With the final two standing you knew it was Tara over Erika. Still say Shani Neilson should have been up there (NT) -- No name, 07:11:11 02/21/26 Sat (NoHost/172.56.3.104) They are forever immortalized in the annals of the celluloid closet, the crowning clip in Little Miss Sunshine. Two double preliminary winners that year, Oregon and Hawaii, neither won. All three QOL finalists made the top five, AL, KS and LA. Personally, I loved Indiana, Oregon, Mississippi and Alabama. Kind of funny, I guess, but if you watch the crowning, Texas looks around like, do we clap? (NT) -- No name, 08:11:54 02/21/26 Sat (NoHost/212.15.84.31) The TPTB didn't like Shani's Pet Therapy platform. They thought it lame and not marketable nationally. That kept her out of top five. (NT) -- No name, 19:23:23 02/21/26 Sat (syn-104-231-146-068.res.spectrum.com/104.231.146.68) Perhaps she was a bit before her time. Dog and cat owners have become reliable and profitable markets. Even insurance companies. (NT) -- No name, 20:41:48 02/22/26 Sun (NoHost/212.15.83.87) Jennifer Makris didn't even belong in top 10 (NT) -- No name, 12:26:57 02/21/26 Sat (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) Jennifer Makris won over the gay audience and judges with her rendition of The Man That Got Away. No one was going to beat Heather that year, but Jennifer could have won any other year. She was great in swimsuit and gown (top ten at Miss USA). Anyone who thinks she did not belong in the top 10, is truly not a pageant fan. (NT) -- No name, 12:51:13 02/21/26 Sat (50-79-221-253-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/50.79.221.253) She was top 10 at Miss USA after she lost like 15 pounds. Her SS at Miss America was pretty awful as was her gown. The only place she shined was interview and that's about it. She had no business in top 10 (NT) -- No name, 19:45:23 02/21/26 Sat (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) 👍 Exactly! (NT) -- No name, 21:51:46 02/21/26 Sat (NoHost/172.56.80.0) Jennifer was a quality contestant and deserved her placement. Torch songs have always done well at Miss America. Think for example of Paula Montgomery from Arkansas. She didn't seem special in other areas but soared into the top five with her song.......which I now can't remember the title of! Same thing for Tiffany Storm, Miss Indiana. (NT) -- No name, 10:17:29 02/22/26 Sun (216-24-92-182.unassigned.ntelos.net/216.24.92.182) I guess that proves why you were never asked to judge. You have no idea what you are talking about. (NT) -- No name, 10:14:04 02/22/26 Sun (50-79-221-253-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/50.79.221.253) I think this last post refers to the person criticizing Jennifer, not my Arkansas/Indiana referecnes. (NT) -- No name, 10:23:27 02/22/26 Sun (216-24-92-182.unassigned.ntelos.net/216.24.92.182) Hold up, where are you getting that I was never asked to judge? I've judged local several dozen times and I've judged in a handful of states. So STFU with your emotional response to an objective opinion about your girl (NT) -- No name, 11:37:30 02/22/26 Sun (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) I can also say I am the Queen of England, but it doesn't make it true. SMH (NT) -- No name, 15:15:04 02/22/26 Sun (NoHost/184.52.101.189) I wouldn't say she was not top 10 material, but I certainly did not have her in top 5. There were much stronger contestants in that top 10 (NT) -- No name, 17:22:15 02/23/26 Mon (NoHost/159.100.209.52)

Subject: Future Productions and Miss USA State Pageants
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01:26:55 02/21/26 Sat (c-98-43-53-49.hsd1.co.comcast.net/98.43.53.49) Has there been any updates on if the states ran by Future Productions? Do we know if they’ll have an in person pageant? I know the Miss Colorado USA selection was very odd. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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It sounds like they are doing open casting again this year for states that don't yet have directors. So I'm guessing no. (NT) -- No name, 17:51:33 02/21/26 Sat (NoHost/167.187.101.179) They resigned their affiliation with Miss Universe-Miss USA last May. I do not understand the posted question--is this to suggest Craig and Denise want to -- return as official state pageant directors or what is this about?, 18:10:07 02/21/26 Sat (NoHost/12.96.62.36) Aren't they now affiliating with Miss All American? (NT) -- No name, 23:34:52 02/21/26 Sat (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219)

Subject: Some of these 100th Anniversary local pageants are just becoming so bizarre. I saw a local pageant posting excessively about how they had their 100th year pageant this year but GET THIS! For years this state has been an at-large state. We are really being generous but was we are calling a 100th anniversary pageant these days.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:23:13 02/15/26 Sun (75-104-111-187.cust.exede.net/75.104.111.187) It cheapens the actual 100th anniversaries in my opinion. I like the gold crowns, but if you can’t trace back 100 pageants I don’t think it is your 100th anniversary. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Which state? Some states are a mix of titles and at-large, like Alaska (NT) -- No name, 18:46:22 02/15/26 Sun (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) You have no idea what you are talking about (NT) -- No name, 19:36:52 02/15/26 Sun (NoHost/172.56.66.17) Colorado just did it for Miss Denver. They are trying to revive locals. It’s worth a shot (NT) -- No name, 22:57:01 02/15/26 Sun (NoHost/172.59.225.248) It is the 100th anniversary of the first Miss Denver being crowned, and it was exciting to bring locals back to the state after years of at-large. Locals will help grow the program - so yes, we used the rightful anniversary for marketing & to celebrate that history. (NT) -- No name, 08:43:46 02/16/26 Mon (75-163-205-28.clsp.qwest.net/75.163.205.28) Excuse me, crowned can be in quotes. Miss Denver 1926, Deloras Conrad, was 4th runner up to Miss America, back when cities were represented at the pageant in Atlantic City. (NT) -- No name, 08:54:35 02/16/26 Mon (75-163-205-28.clsp.qwest.net/75.163.205.28) So she was still titled Miss Denver. I think it was a decent idea for publicity. They got some new contestants involved (NT) -- No name, 17:37:55 02/18/26 Wed (NoHost/172.59.225.248) Name which local pageants you saw that are celebrating 100 years this year (in which city and what title--and state). Love to check into those as those are the ones we really need -- to keep arounds---others seem to be (mostly at-large) fly-by-night two or four years then gone., 16:15:16 02/16/26 Mon (NoHost/144.92.78.242) Miss Madison (WI) just had their 100th anniversary pageant and there were photos of the contestants in 1926, so it was definitely legit. -- No name, 18:14:56 02/16/26 Mon (196.sub-174-211-97.myvzw.com/174.211.97.196) Just saw that video, now that you mention it today, its a fake. Wrong year. Like they can't do their Miss Madison/Miss America in Atlantic City video search homework. Had the same happen in Tennessee and the video they showed turned out to be a popular swimsuit contest not the -- Miss Nashville/Miss Music City pageant in the 1920s for Miss America., 23:34:34 02/16/26 Mon (NoHost/144.92.78.242) I get your point, but there were photos, newspaper clips, etc, of the first Miss Madison pageant in 1926, won by Dorothy Seiler. A quick Google search confirms it. (NT) -- No name, 22:19:13 02/17/26 Tue (c-174-53-178-180.hsd1.mn.comcast.net/174.53.178.180) They never claimed that there have been 100 Miss Madison winners. It is well known that for many years there was not a Miss Madison competiton. It was the 100th year since the first Miss Madison had been crowned. (NT) -- No name, 01:48:42 02/18/26 Wed (184-97-57-142.lcrs.centurylink.net/184.97.57.142) To the original poster (like many on here) be less vague---say which pageant/pageants who are irate over their 100th year anniversary coverage and promotions. -- No clue what you are writing about, and where you saw that information., 20:58:46 02/18/26 Wed (NoHost/199.91.248.226)

Subject: New Sashes for State and National titleholders
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:09:22 02/16/26 Mon (NoHost/146.75.164.253) Thoughts on the new 250th Anniversary of America sashes? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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https://missamerica.org/2026/02/16/miss-america-unveils-a-new-sash/ (NT) -- No name, 16:37:31 02/16/26 Mon (syn-174-100-040-048.res.spectrum.com/174.100.40.48) Does this mean the 2026 titleholders won’t get a regular sash to go with this one? (NT) -- No name, 17:20:54 02/16/26 Mon (NoHost/172.56.66.17) They will have the traditional sash in addition to this one (NT) -- No name, 14:27:43 02/17/26 Tue (mobile-166-196-103-061.mycingular.net/166.196.103.61)

Subject: Why was there a 3peat
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 09:17:59 01/31/26 Sat (NoHost/172.58.244.222) Not bashing but. I was wondering what was the reason for New York to have won 3 years in a row. Neither won any preliminary awards...and yes I know many have won the title without. I will say those 3 were the pageants where you had no clue who the judges were leaning towards until the end Just wondering [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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The judges each year saw a woman who impressed them; regardless of the state she represented. Was there consistent coaching for the three? Did the state organization provide resources that were beneficial to all three? Look at the states that produce winners who routinely make the top ten, especially in the South. Geography does not factor in the judges' decisions; superior preparation provides results. (NT) -- No name, 15:55:38 01/31/26 Sat (syn-174-100-040-048.res.spectrum.com/174.100.40.48) All 3 were so MEH I still don't get it. (NT) -- me, 18:48:40 01/31/26 Sat (c-76-106-49-125.hsd1.md.comcast.net/76.106.49.125) Without looking it up, I can't remember who the competition was in those three years but I too remember being surprised at all three winners. So it probably had to be interview and preparation. I was probably most surprised by Kira's win...in fact one detail I DO remember is that I sat there and made my own top five when the time came and I picked the exact OTHER five to make the cut. (NT) -- No name, 00:13:43 02/01/26 Sun (216-24-92-182.unassigned.ntelos.net/216.24.92.182) Many people have expressed that exact same thought about the top 5/10. In fact it was on this board about a week ago. I too had the other five picked. (NT) -- No name, 04:03:05 02/01/26 Sun (NoHost/172.56.66.17) I did this Shawntell Smiths year. I did not get a single top 5 right, not one. Miss Oregon at 1st runner up...good god no. I had the entire 5 semifinalist, as my top 5. KRAZY. Both winner and runnerup were the epitome of BLAND. (NT) -- ME, 16:12:15 02/02/26 Mon (c-76-106-49-125.hsd1.md.comcast.net/76.106.49.125) Same for me Shawntell's year, as I had the bottom semifinalists as the top 5. I was there for prelims, and those weren't the 10 I would have chosen as semifinalists. Oregon, in particular, came out of the blue for me, but I read later that she is extremely intelligent. (NT) -- No name, 11:45:14 02/10/26 Tue (NoHost/163.116.253.51) Well the Guy Rex Factor had a lot to do with Texas winning USA 5 years straight (NT) -- No name, 19:49:06 01/31/26 Sat (NoHost/172.58.244.222) I was o.k. with Nina. The other two left me scratching my head. Did not see them coming. (NT) -- No name, 00:25:28 02/01/26 Sun (c-98-220-13-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net/98.220.13.180) I feel the complete opposite, Nina was the only one of the 3 I didn’t get. Kira didn’t get her till I watched her interview. Nina is still trying to find her 15 minutes of fame (NT) -- No name, 08:05:25 02/01/26 Sun (104-179-20-249.lightspeed.lsvlky.sbcglobal.net/104.179.20.249) Nina doesn't come across as a particularly warm person. (NT) -- No name, 14:15:00 02/01/26 Sun (177.sub-174-238-99.myvzw.com/174.238.99.177) Kira is amazing Mallory ok (NT) -- No name, 13:43:52 02/10/26 Tue (184.sub-174-227-81.myvzw.com/174.227.81.184) Many thought Mississippi Jasmine Murray was robbed from a top 5 spot the year Kira won (NT) -- No name, 09:18:51 02/01/26 Sun (NoHost/172.58.244.222) MS people will swear they have the winner every year sending polished pageant girls, but I truly thought Jasmine Murray was winning that night. (NT) -- No name, 10:41:29 02/01/26 Sun (NoHost/172.56.66.17) I don't see that much anymore. MS has had a hard time adapting to change. Ironic too because part of the computer guy's criteria back in the day was she was from MS or a large state. (NT) -- No name, 11:13:37 02/01/26 Sun (NoHost/212.15.83.41) Oh come on. Jasmine Murray didn't belong anywhere near that top 5. She's lucky she got as far as she did (NT) -- No name, 15:13:20 02/01/26 Sun (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) I Still think to this day Kira had the weakest talent of any Miss America period (NT) -- No name, 12:28:48 02/01/26 Sun (NoHost/172.58.244.222) When you won NY back then you were literally on your own when it came to making and getting to appearances. There was no apartment or car provided nor were there many sponsors compared to other states. When each arrived at the pageant, they were confident self-assured young women who clearly stood out compared to those who had everything handed to them and it was reflected in interview and what MAO wanted at the time. (NT) -- ureka smoke, 08:57:47 02/02/26 Mon (ip68-100-118-42.dc.dc.cox.net/68.100.118.42) Miss NY still doesn't get an apartment or car. So what are you talking about? (NT) -- No name, 12:25:27 02/16/26 Mon (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) I always wondered if the pressure was on NY the year after Kira or was it not even mentioned (NT) -- No name, 09:54:40 02/02/26 Mon (NoHost/172.58.244.222) I didn’t get Kira until she did her talent. I know a lot of people who will disagree but she was joyful and in her element (NT) -- No name, 23:28:41 02/02/26 Mon (4.sub-174-225-86.myvzw.com/174.225.86.4) Guess Kira's talent made sense Afterall. Miss America usually goes out and speaks to the children and her talent could be seen has a show for the kids.. (NT) -- No name, 11:15:47 02/10/26 Tue (NoHost/169.156.15.207)

Subject: I found an old news article from a visit Kate Shindle made to Brown University. There's a quote from another future Miss America.
Author: Anon [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:09:52 01/04/26 Sun (187.sub-174-224-172.myvzw.com/174.224.172.187) https://www.ourmidland.com/news/article/Ex-Miss-America-visits-university-class-on-beauty-6936643.php [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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It's blocked. You must have a subscription to read it. It would be lovely if someone wouldn't mind posting the mystery quote/reference. (NT) -- No name, 19:20:15 01/04/26 Sun (172-236-242-14.ip.linodeusercontent.com/172.236.242.14) Not blocked for me, no subscription. Click in for the short quote. -- No name, 20:24:29 01/04/26 Sun (syn-075-082-032-207.res.spectrum.com/75.82.32.207) CLICK-IN: Students read Shindle's book "Being Miss America." They spent more than an hour in a recent class talking about her experience winning the title, the causes she spearheaded and her dealings with pageant leaders. Senior Cara Mund says she's competed in the Miss America system and "it's cool" to see a role model in class. (NT) -- No name, 11:39:47 01/06/26 Tue (unn-45-134-140-140.datapacket.com/45.134.140.140) My favorite part is referring to Cara Mund as someone who previously competed in Miss America. LOL UM SHE WAS MISS AMERICA (NT) -- No name, 14:45:48 01/05/26 Mon (NoHost/216.125.37.210) The quote said Cara had competed in the Miss America system. The timing of the article is from October 2015, a couple of years BEFORE Cara became Miss America. (NT) -- Anon, 15:02:07 01/05/26 Mon (187.sub-174-224-172.myvzw.com/174.224.172.187) This article was before that (NT) -- No name, 00:16:20 02/16/26 Mon (NoHost/172.59.225.248)

Subject: How was the lighting approved for the year that the baron twirled I think it was Miss Missouri twirled and you could hardly see what she was doing?
Author: d... [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:29:57 01/19/26 Mon (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Having had two twirlers, they can better see the baton coming at them if spot lights are off. Most request that they are turned off. While it is harder for you the audience to see its better them to make the catch (NT) -- No name, 00:03:50 01/20/26 Tue (ec2-13-220-169-142.compute-1.amazonaws.com/13.220.169.142) That entire pageant was a disaster! Just awful in every way! (NT) -- No name, 22:31:55 01/23/26 Fri (syn-070-113-128-069.res.spectrum.com/70.113.128.69) As I know Simone that lighting was NOT as she requested and it by sheer talents that it wasn’t a full on disaster!!! Should have won her the whole thing!!! (NT) -- No name, 00:09:15 02/16/26 Mon (NoHost/172.59.225.248)

Subject: Copyright Issues?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:29:30 01/25/26 Sun (NoHost/172.56.33.184) I'm wondering why I can't find the 2018 pageant when Cara Mund was Crowned. There's only a small clip of the crowning on you tube but, every other full pageant is there. Does anyone know why or where else to look? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I can't find the year Savvy Shields (2017) won either. (NT) -- No name, 14:56:00 01/25/26 Sun (74-112-119-97.static.hrtc.net/74.112.119.97) You tube has segments of the pageant that Shavy won but it's split up. There's nothing like that the following year (NT) -- No name, 08:10:27 01/26/26 Mon (NoHost/172.56.33.184) Because they didn’t ever produce the video of that year. Our contestants Only have things we (against the rules) recorded. It was a total scam!!! (NT) -- No name, 23:27:50 02/15/26 Sun (NoHost/172.59.225.248)

Subject: Most changed contestant from state to national pageant? Wardrobe wise at least.
Author: d... [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01:28:38 01/25/26 Sun (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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For Virginia, that would have to be Julianne Smith. When she won state, she was the cute girl-next-door type. By Miss America, she was more glamorous. She could also from what I recall fit into this discussion of first runners-up who were quite happy with that placement. (NT) -- No name, 09:57:18 01/25/26 Sun (216-24-92-182.unassigned.ntelos.net/216.24.92.182) What year did she go to MAo? (NT) -- No name, 20:33:18 01/25/26 Sun (243.sub-174-221-148.myvzw.com/174.221.148.243) 86, Kellye Cashs year. (NT) -- No name, 23:02:22 01/25/26 Sun (syn-075-082-032-207.res.spectrum.com/75.82.32.207) thank you (NT) -- No name, 00:53:26 01/27/26 Tue (syn-198-072-213-064.res.spectrum.com/198.72.213.64) I would add Courtney Garrett. Who knew having big ole pageant hair would soften her face and turn her into a glamazon? (NT) -- ureka smoke, 10:37:31 02/03/26 Tue (ip68-100-118-42.dc.dc.cox.net/68.100.118.42) LOVE Julianne Smith, wanted her to win the whole thing. She was fantastic in every onstage portion of the pageant, better than Cash in my opinion. I imagine interview pushed Cash into the winners circle, but I would much rather have had Smith as the winner that night. (NT) -- No name, 03:15:02 01/27/26 Tue (c-73-152-253-5.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.152.253.5) I did too. I loved the whole top five but still perplexed why MO wore a mother of the bride ensemble for talent. (NT) -- No name, 15:47:25 02/01/26 Sun (NoHost/212.15.83.36) Kelly Johnson, CO -Nurse Kelly. When she won in CO she was a total mess and she looked spectacular at Miss America. Too bad they didn't have a top 5 ballot that year becuase she would have easily won Miss America. Her on stage question, and everything but talent, were amazing. And, her talent got her so much national recognition that it would have been so great for the program had she won Miss America. She definitely was a more well known celebrity than Betty. (NT) -- No name, 15:43:59 02/01/26 Sun (c-73-14-141-197.hsd1.co.comcast.net/73.14.141.197) Did you see her as Miss CA USA? Do you think she should've placed higher than top 10? (NT) -- No name, 00:45:59 02/06/26 Fri (syn-075-082-032-207.res.spectrum.com/75.82.32.207) I blame nurse Kelly for all of the talking for talent “her story” crap we have now. She caused it and it’s not an improvement (NT) -- No name, 23:13:15 02/15/26 Sun (NoHost/172.59.225.248) As a Wisconsinite, I was thrilled when Laura Kaeppeler won Miss America. She was gorgeous and had a decent enough talent, but shortly after she was crowned Miss Wisconsin she was on a morning show and I was not impressed at all in how she presented herself in interview. I honestly didn't think she had a chance at winning Miss America. However, she worked with a team of people that not only got her interview up to speed, but also somewhat changed her appearance -- thus the darker hair and dark make-up. I think she was very glad when her year was up, and since then has never returned or supported the state program. (NT) -- No name, 17:20:48 02/02/26 Mon (184-97-57-142.lcrs.centurylink.net/184.97.57.142) She definitely had a gorgeous face and impressive talent. (NT) -- No name, 20:08:58 02/02/26 Mon (177.sub-174-238-99.myvzw.com/174.238.99.177) Laura K certainly came out of nowhere that night. Talent was good but not great. She ended up marrying one of her judges. She has hosted all former Miss Americas at her lake house before so I wouldn’t say she’s given nothing to the program. (NT) -- No name, 00:25:41 02/03/26 Tue (NoHost/172.56.66.17) I always thought her talent was considered quite good by most people. She was a talent winner. However, she did have that face, which was gorgeous. I alo remember her looking good during her year., styling wise. (NT) -- No name, 13:35:34 02/04/26 Wed (177.sub-174-238-99.myvzw.com/174.238.99.177) I saw the local interview with Laura Kaeppeler. She upped her game for nationals impressively. (NT) -- No name, 07:17:17 02/04/26 Wed (syn-104-231-146-068.res.spectrum.com/104.231.146.68) Didn't Laura return as a LED for a short time? (NT) -- Anon, 04:46:38 02/05/26 Thu (216.sub-174-224-162.myvzw.com/174.224.162.216) Hannah Smith, Miss Illinois. Looked legit homely win she won the state title, but was a knockout at Miss America and made Top 10. (NT) -- No name, 07:37:44 02/03/26 Tue (144.sub-97-181-234.myvzw.com/97.181.234.144) Shilah Phillips, Miss Texas 2006 came to Miss Texas as a first-year contestant with a wardrobe that was "good enough". When she got to Miss America, she was the epitome of glamor! -- Glynda, 11:04:00 02/04/26 Wed (NoHost/216.48.231.249) I actually preferred Shilah's State gown over her Miss America gown. Still hate she didn't win. Nothing against Lauren, but I thought Shilah was incredible that night. (NT) -- No name, 13:27:05 02/04/26 Wed (NoHost/136.226.50.125) I actually think Shilah looked better at Miss Texas than she did at Miss America. (NT) -- No name, 18:19:01 02/04/26 Wed (NoHost/12.233.34.186) "Good Enough"??? Were you there that week at the state pageant? She had one of the strongest local pageant boards behind her. Her gown was couture, fit like a glove. Her talent outfit was beaded to the gods, and her swimsuit was a Jayme Shaw, and her interview outfit was from Neiman Marcus. Please explain to me how that is "good enough". It cost a small fortune and through a lot of fun raisers she got a "good enough" as you put it wardrobe. How do I know this, I was on that board! (NT) -- No name, 14:21:59 02/04/26 Wed (NoHost/64.168.125.155) Are there pictures of that year's state pageant? (NT) -- No name, 19:19:25 02/05/26 Thu (NoHost/212.15.84.90) You're in luck. The entire state pageant is on YouTube! (NT) -- No name, 22:39:14 02/05/26 Thu (syn-075-082-032-207.res.spectrum.com/75.82.32.207) Just watched it. Crowning was interesting…. No real excitement in the background, then slow response to start clapping after crowning. (NT) -- Little to no excitement…why? Was the winner close with her class?, 23:55:49 02/05/26 Thu (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117) I may be totally off on this, and hopefully the former board member can chine in. Back then it many, many TX ladies won local titles 4-5-6-7 times and competed at state every year. Even more if they did Teen, which was common. I think SP was a bit of an outsider, in the sense they just didn't know her? (NT) -- No name, 09:07:22 02/06/26 Fri (syn-075-082-032-207.res.spectrum.com/75.82.32.207) It was kind of strange. Shilah acted like she didn't know she had won. She looked fantastic. The travesty was Heather Hodges getting fourth runner up and the first to congratulate Shilah and genuinely seem happy for her. This was a competitive pageant. (NT) -- No name, 22:51:39 02/06/26 Fri (NoHost/212.15.84.96) Shilah and Heather were sister queens. Plano/Frisco and had shared the year prepping for Miss Texas together. Shilah was an unknown to many of the contestants, plus she was also the first African American to win the crown. Even though it was 2005, it was something that Texas had never experienced and it was one of those moments of did it really finally happen occurred. While it wasn't the most amount of contestants Tx had, it was during the years of the runner up pageants where 8 crowns were given, so that helped the numbers on the stage. (NT) -- No name, 01:35:08 02/07/26 Sat (NoHost/207.214.46.21) http://starlocalmedia.com/planocourier/news/miss-plano-vies-for-state-crown/article_cec79814-d417-5e2c-88d8-7cf2b77f81e2.html Where in Texas and what was a first runner-up pageant and what were the eight titles? -- Did Heather Hodges return any years after Shilah's 2006 state victory--what happened?, 22:42:39 02/10/26 Tue (NoHost/144.92.78.242) HH was 1st runner up to Miss Texas. I can't recall what year. (NT) -- No name, 23:35:42 02/10/26 Tue (syn-075-082-032-207.res.spectrum.com/75.82.32.207)

Subject: Who were preliminary winners in 1990? I know Misdouri and Illinois in swimsuit, South Carolina and Ohio talent.
Author: d... [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:51:15 02/02/26 Mon (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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That information is available on Wikipedia. The page is listed as "Miss America Award Winners" plus sometimes the preliminary awards are listed on the Miss America (whatever year) page. (NT) -- No name, 20:06:46 02/02/26 Mon (177.sub-174-238-99.myvzw.com/174.238.99.177) I tried that but wasn't able to find it fir that year. Then I found another page but it seemed not quite right witj actual preliminary winners. (NT) -- d..., 21:13:05 02/02/26 Mon (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92) It is actually a separate page from any other Miss America material. Also, once you find the page, you have to scroll down and click Preliminary Winners because they also list a lot of the other scholarships that MAO offers (NT) -- No name, 00:20:42 02/03/26 Tue (177.sub-174-238-99.myvzw.com/174.238.99.177) If you are referring to the 1989 pageant when Miss America 1990 was crowned, the preliminary winners were the following: Swimsuit - Missouri, Illinois & Louisiana (who didn't make top 10), Talent - South Carolina (who didn't make top 10), Ohio, & Oklahoma. (NT) -- No name, 21:40:33 02/02/26 Mon (184-97-57-142.lcrs.centurylink.net/184.97.57.142) Louisiana won a SS prelim and was a NF Talent winner (banjo). (NT) -- No name, 14:25:51 02/13/26 Fri (NoHost/163.116.253.48) So her interview must have been bad. (NT) -- No name, 10:08:01 02/14/26 Sat (syn-065-030-210-128.res.spectrum.com/65.30.210.128) One could assume. She was very pretty. Remember her solo close up in the exquisite Lady in Red number? I always referred to that as her consolation prize. (NT) -- No name, 16:40:54 02/14/26 Sat (syn-075-082-032-207.res.spectrum.com/75.82.32.207) And/or she might have came in 11th or 12th? IMHO she looked a little old-fashioned in EG. (NT) -- No name, 22:33:42 02/14/26 Sat (c-73-206-250-152.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.206.250.152) Missouri not Misdouri. (NT) -- d..., 02:27:08 02/13/26 Fri (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92)

Subject: Miss America local crowns and local entry fees
Author: Dana [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:04:43 01/25/26 Sun (syn-047-044-091-146.biz.spectrum.com/47.44.91.146) Hi.....can anyone tell me what is the primary (or only) source for Miss America system local crowns and is there a website for this company, and any idea the cost of a local crown? We had a local winner from six years ago whose family had a house fire recently which could have been worse, but the part of the upstairs area of the house was her bedroom when she comes back home to see parents. She lost her crown in that spare bedroom along with other things, and we wish to get her it replaced. But our county pageant closed just before the COVID-19 pandemic (but not because of it---just lack of volunteers and endless time-consuming fighting for scholarship money) and I have no clue what does a Miss America local crown cost now. Any assistance? And if I understand correctly, local entrants for Miss America system no longer have to get sponsors or pay funds for the Miss America and Children's Miracle Network program, which basically came off as a Miss USA state pageant type entry free. If I recall correctly, that ended four or five years ago, so do local pageant contestants still need to pay anything to enter a 2026 Miss America local or regional state preliminary pageant even if it is disguised for charity like Miss America Organization and CMA of a few years ago? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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If I'm not mistaken, I think KA Concepts still handles the crowns. I think you have to provide documentation to purchase an " official" crown. Also, I think Robin instituted an actual entry fee when she turned the pageant into a for profit event. (NT) -- No name, 20:20:31 01/25/26 Sun (194.sub-174-238-105.myvzw.com/174.238.105.194) there is an annual "membership" fee set in place with MAO, then each local/state can charge their own individual prices (NT) -- No name, 15:21:41 01/27/26 Tue (c-68-80-167-64.hsd1.pa.comcast.net/68.80.167.64) If it is a Schoppy crown can they ask them to make a replacement? The KA crowns are not as high quality as Schoppy was (NT) -- No name, 23:11:10 01/25/26 Sun (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) Asked Dave @Schoppy-he said KA Concepts was supplying him the crowns. -- No name, 15:27:38 01/28/26 Wed (NoHost/172.56.71.73) purchase a crown -- No name, 15:25:46 01/26/26 Mon (syn-098-150-085-185.res.spectrum.com/98.150.85.185) Good idea-but I have seen local crowns especially Schoppy ones priced at the thousands (NT) -- No name, 01:35:52 01/27/26 Tue (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) Contact the State Director, they will help you get a crown. the prices change each year, I think the Miss crown is like $140 (NT) -- No name, 01:18:38 01/28/26 Wed (syn-076-032-018-149.res.spectrum.com/76.32.18.149) I was curious about the same thing----about entry fee for local MAO participants. So MAO-CMA ended, now there is another charity the contestants have to pay basically entry fees? Or is it a straight-out entry/sponsorship fee like any Miss USA state pageant has required for decades now? -- One person above mention Robin's for-profit method, so what is the cost to enter?, 13:58:26 01/28/26 Wed (syn-047-049-055-214.biz.spectrum.com/47.49.55.214) Contestants pay $30 fee to American Heart Association and each local has can have an entry fee (NT) -- No name, 14:17:42 01/28/26 Wed (NoHost/128.163.239.165) Cost -- No name, 15:56:18 01/28/26 Wed (NoHost/76.72.177.191) It's a $50 membership and it automatically renews each year so if you are done competing you have to cancel it yourself. (NT) -- No name, 17:30:03 01/28/26 Wed (24-230-142-219-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.142.219) What about the cost and which company makes the Miss America local banners/sashes? How much and how rapid can they be sent out upon requesting them? -- When we had our local (and also at the state level) we did not award banners., 14:15:33 01/30/26 Fri (syn-047-049-055-214.biz.spectrum.com/47.49.55.214) https://www.thesashcompany.com/ Cost about $50, $20 ish to ship and take about a month. (NT) -- No name, 16:07:53 02/10/26 Tue (23.29.80.195.bbc.net/23.29.80.195) This makes us wonder----if there is a pageant which offers/awards two or even three titles---usually state open titles to advance to the state pageant----does the MAO local gal pay two or three times of the amount or just the one entry fee amount to enter? -- And anyone know the turn-around time of ordering a MAO crown and banner?, 19:30:08 02/10/26 Tue (NoHost/144.92.78.242) Licensed Miss America Crowns (NT) -- No name, 13:25:25 02/11/26 Wed (NoHost/172.59.74.250) Official Miss America Jewelry Collection (NT) -- No name, 13:30:03 02/11/26 Wed (NoHost/172.59.74.250) ...I am curious about the answer to the question asked above about contestants who enter a pageant with two or three titles offered. -- They pay one charity fee or sponsorship or two or three in this case?, 21:40:42 02/13/26 Fri (NoHost/144.92.78.242)

Subject: Just Curious Who's Your Picks
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:45:38 02/12/26 Thu (NoHost/169.156.13.235) Which Miss America(s) you feel should have won a preliminary award of some sort. Either SS, Talent Or EG and did not. Obviously since she won it doesnt really matter buy whom would you pick [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Kim Aiken! (NT) -- No name, 15:53:46 02/12/26 Thu (NoHost/216.125.37.210) Leanza should have won Talent over lemkau (NT) -- No name, 17:13:33 02/12/26 Thu (NoHost/172.56.3.104) Leanza was in the same prelim group as Kanas, Pam McKelvy, I seem to recall (NT) -- No name, 17:43:01 02/12/26 Thu (NoHost/148.59.75.51) Jennifer Berry should have been a swimsuit winner and been a double prelim winner. Not sure who was the winner in her group. (NT) -- No name, 21:48:00 02/12/26 Thu (NoHost/172.56.66.17) Utah won SS in that group on Night 1. Jennifer won Talent on Night 2. (NT) -- No name, 22:06:04 02/12/26 Thu (syn-072-191-206-229.res.spectrum.com/72.191.206.229) Abbie Stockard- Evening Gown (NT) -- No name, 21:49:04 02/12/26 Thu (NoHost/172.56.66.17)

Subject: Same Name
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:57:39 02/03/26 Tue (74-112-119-102.static.hrtc.net/74.112.119.102) At Miss America 2014 there were two contestants (CA and HI) named Crystal Lee. Is there any other contestants in pageants with the same name? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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At Miss Virginia one year, there were two girls named Jennifer Lewis. They each made the top ten on the night of the televised finals, so in addition to naming their titles each time they competed, they used their middle initials also. Neither placed in the top five. (NT) -- No name, 13:05:45 02/03/26 Tue (216-24-92-182.unassigned.ntelos.net/216.24.92.182) This is two separate pageants, but Miss Virginia Teen USA 2000 and Miss Universe 2004 were both Jennifer Hawkins. (NT) -- No name, 14:05:50 02/03/26 Tue (NoHost/157.230.92.31) Yes. And later, Jennifer Hawkins Canada (married name) from Virginia was commenting on the situation. She never tried ffor VA USA or VA MAO as she quickly got married. She is a bit on a shorter side 5'2" but a beautiful face.... Who knows, maybe she could have defied the odds. (NT) -- No name, 01:18:37 02/06/26 Fri (107-179-250-147.cpe.teksavvy.com/107.179.250.147) At one time in the mid 1970s, Miss USA and America's Junior Miss (I think) had almost the same name. One was Karen Morris and the other was Karen Morrison. (NT) -- No name, 09:27:18 02/06/26 Fri (216-24-92-182.unassigned.ntelos.net/216.24.92.182) I remember Morrison....she went on to be a soap actress. The only time in all my years of pageants I can ever recall Wyoming winning a national pageant. Since then.....tumbleweeds. (NT) -- No name, 17:16:50 02/06/26 Fri (238.sub-174-238-97.myvzw.com/174.238.97.238) 2006 Miss Wisconsin was Molly Jean McGrath and 2004 Miss Nebraska was Molly McGrath. (NT) -- No name, 10:34:41 02/06/26 Fri (80.sub-174-240-114.myvzw.com/174.240.114.80) One of those had a banging swimsuit at Miss America and I think she won her preliminary. There is also the Molly McGrath, ESPN sideline reporter. (NT) -- No name, 18:47:30 02/06/26 Fri (NoHost/212.15.84.90) Other way around, 2004 Wisconsin and 2006 Nebraska. But yes. (NT) -- No name, 20:26:01 02/06/26 Fri (syn-072-133-036-221.res.spectrum.com/72.133.36.221) .....The Molly Jean McGrath who was Miss Madison and Miss Wisconsin in 2004 was one of the Quality of Life Award Finalists (for her great long-time advocacy on being a well-educated voter), but Molly did not win a preliminary swimsuit---the year Deidre Downs (Alabama) won Miss America 2005--the last to be crowned in Atlantic City, NJ before the move to Las Vegas, Nevada. The Molly McGrath (Miss Nebraska 2006) was a -- preliminary swimsuit winner but didn't place when Lauren Nelson (Oklahoma) won Miss America 2007.., 21:54:56 02/10/26 Tue (NoHost/144.92.78.242) Miss Virginia 1976 and Miss Wisconsin 1995 were both Pamela Polk. (NT) -- No name, 19:28:09 02/06/26 Fri (syn-072-188-218-067.res.spectrum.com/72.188.218.67)

Subject: What is the best pageant resale site online?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:23:03 02/03/26 Tue (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) Pageant Resale used to be the best but they have been out of business for many years. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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there are several facebook private groups that you can join where used pageant dresses are sold (NT) -- No name, 10:08:25 02/05/26 Thu (NoHost/47.217.175.32) The Real Real (NT) -- No name, 11:50:23 02/07/26 Sat (NoHost/172.59.224.155) (NT) -- No name, 12:55:49 02/07/26 Sat (NoHost/172.59.224.155) A bit iffy on the RealReal-they have had issues with authentication of designer handbags and some fakes have been sold on the site (NT) -- No name, 19:35:47 02/07/26 Sat (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) Then I guess they are not Real, Real. They are Fake, Fake! (NT) -- No name, 23:25:29 02/07/26 Sat (238.sub-174-238-97.myvzw.com/174.238.97.238) Original poster here-looking for Sherri Hill vintage (NT) -- No name, 16:44:15 02/09/26 Mon (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) Size? (NT) -- No name, 22:10:54 02/09/26 Mon (NoHost/71.237.132.155) I maybe able to help you I bought several SH in the mid 2012-2017 I have been wondering where to sell them. (NT) -- No name, 14:18:27 02/10/26 Tue (unn-79-127-147-210.datapacket.com/79.127.147.210) Would love to find a Mike Benet Vintage. (NT) -- No name, 14:32:59 02/10/26 Tue (177.sub-174-238-99.myvzw.com/174.238.99.177) Queenly was awesome, but sadly closed about a year ago (NT) -- No name, 10:27:33 02/11/26 Wed (NoHost/156.110.185.250) I looked up Queenly-it is now a site selling custom gowns and pageant apparrel (NT) -- No name, 23:50:35 02/11/26 Wed (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219)

Subject: There were 2 computer picks for winners in 1985?
Author: d... [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 02:46:13 01/30/26 Fri (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Susan Akin was predicted by a computer to be the winner. No one was shocked when she did win. (NT) -- No name, 08:09:08 01/30/26 Fri (NoHost/184.52.103.146) Who was the other computer pick? (NT) -- No name, 11:03:06 01/30/26 Fri (113.sub-174-216-10.myvzw.com/174.216.10.113) I think it was Elizabeth Williams, Miss North Carolina. (NT) -- No name, 21:35:43 01/31/26 Sat (NoHost/172.56.84.144) Im sorry, wrong year. Elizabeth Williams was 1983. (NT) -- No name, 21:37:16 01/31/26 Sat (NoHost/172.56.84.144) I meant the year before that I guess. Who were the picks for 1983 and 1984? (NT) -- d..., 12:21:55 01/30/26 Fri (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92) Vanessa was the hands down favorite in 1983. The computer even predicted her win. (NT) -- No name, 12:36:26 01/30/26 Fri (NoHost/155.190.9.5) Elizabeth Williams, Miss North Carolina was for 1983. (NT) -- No name, 21:38:25 01/31/26 Sat (NoHost/172.56.84.144) Kelly Bumragen and then Tamara Hext were the computer picks for Miss America 1985. Both made top 10, and hext fibished 5th overall. Bumragen was his initial pick then he switched to Hexr. (NT) -- No name, 12:25:55 01/30/26 Fri (ip98-162-249-128.ok.ok.cox.net/98.162.249.128) Elizabeth Williams (NC - 82) was the pick that year. Many people feel it sabotaged her chances, because it was starting to get too much attention n tion. Williams won swimsuit, had a stellar interview, and won NFT. Did not make sense for at least not Top 10. (NT) -- No name, 18:09:42 01/31/26 Sat (177.sub-174-238-99.myvzw.com/174.238.99.177) He had a more difficult time after they stopped publishing the contestants' statistics. He was successful in '79, '80, '85 and '86. He predicted Florida in '87 and Arkansas in '88. (NT) -- No name, 18:33:54 01/31/26 Sat (NoHost/212.15.83.42)

Subject: Does everyone who disliked the pageant being in AC enjoy it more now?
Author: d... [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:07:35 01/19/26 Mon (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I have been of the mindset that Atlantic City is a sewer pit and they rolled up the welcome mat to Miss America back in 2001/2002. It should never go back there. The current situation is just o.k. The theater is in downtown Orlando, which is a dead downtown. And all of the pageant activities take place out by Universal, which is 12 to 15 miles away. It is not logistically tight and still needs work. (NT) -- No name, 10:50:34 01/20/26 Tue (NoHost/159.100.209.51) Orlando is a "dead downtown." Spoken like a true tourist who does not live there. Downtown Orlando has many nightclubs and restaurants which are open until 2AM. There are also numerous hotels close to the pageant venue - some of which are far more affordable than the theme park hotels. If the pageant remains in Orlando, I encourage the leadership to explore the downtown hotels as options for the host hotel. If the pageant was headquartered downtown, attendees could walk to the theatre and save money by not having to drive or uber to the theatre. (NT) -- No name, 05:44:45 01/25/26 Sun (syn-072-188-218-067.res.spectrum.com/72.188.218.67) And how many pageant people are hitting the clubs at 2:00 a.m? I stay by the auditorium when I go to Miss America and not out by the theme parks. I also travel extensively for my job to major cities around the U.S. and Europe. In my opinion, Orlando is a sleepy city. You are welcomed to your opinion and I am welcomed to mine. ;) (NT) -- No name, 10:57:25 01/29/26 Thu (NoHost/159.100.209.51) the venue needs to be larger and the tickets more affordable. (NT) -- No name, 11:04:04 01/20/26 Tue (24-230-142-219-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.142.219) I hated when they moved out of Boardwalk Hall, but for me the pageant turned out to be at its very best in Vegas and going back to AC was a terrible mistake. As far as Orlando is concerned, from a for-profit business perspective, it's a smart location. (NT) -- IMHO, 13:35:29 01/21/26 Wed (NoHost/172.59.226.6) I would like to see someone to show how over the years how much the ticket prices escalated. from AC to CT, they went way up and then in FL they are outrageous. The costs are completely out of control for families and friends to attend (NT) -- No name, 22:00:57 01/21/26 Wed (syn-076-032-018-149.res.spectrum.com/76.32.18.149) Sweetheart, Let's not play dumb. We are MAO pageant families and we got MONEY. We will GLADLY pay extra to keep our girls out the ghettolicious areas. This is a once-in-a-lifetime pageant, not a budget Greyhound stop. My gurl is fully beat, fully booked, and fully expensive. She is not coming all this way for tired cities and zero glam. If it don't give luxury, it don't give crown, Babi gurl. Book better or expect noise! (NT) -- No name, 00:13:59 01/22/26 Thu (107-179-250-147.cpe.teksavvy.com/107.179.250.147) That's cute, but you are limiting the audience to rich people who are supporting their tribe. The idea is to expand the audience.The crowd in Convention Hall wasn't just friends, family and sorority sisters. It was America, and so was the TV audience. IMHO, Miss Tri Delta should have its own pageant and allow plebians to enjoy the national pageant. Carry on. (NT) -- No name, 13:58:05 01/22/26 Thu (NoHost/163.116.254.48) Really? Not every family in the system comes from money. There are actually girls in the system who are using the scholarships to pay their way through school. I'm glad you are well off but that does not mean everyone is. (NT) -- No name, 12:07:55 01/23/26 Fri (NoHost/170.211.119.130) And if being well off means talking like a low-class pimp, no thank you (NT) -- No name, 14:30:18 01/23/26 Fri (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) scholarships if you are in school are the only ones offered (NT) -- No name, 00:22:50 01/24/26 Sat (syn-076-032-018-149.res.spectrum.com/76.32.18.149) It's interesting that you don't want your "gurl" in the ghetto when you sound like you were raised in the ghetto. Trashy, low-rent troll (NT) -- No name, 14:29:15 01/23/26 Fri (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) Am I the only one that believes that pageant's locations should be more BOLD, more OUT THERE and have more PIZZAAZ. AC to put it mildly is way, WAY past its prime... especially beond tge casino area. Do we want our gurls to compete in a ghetto? Granted, it's a bit better comparing to Camden, NJ or Englewood, Chicago. But imagine, I win my local title, I am engaged in charities and then, they tell me to comlete fir national MAO title in Jackson, Mississippi or East St Louis, Illinois! ROFL And then peoplecwonder why numbers are down. We need exciting, TRENDY locations. Sundance, Utah, Telluride Colorado, Carmel by the Sea or Santa Barbara, Cali! And why not a Miss America abroad in trendy Guanacastevir around Arental Volcano in Costa Rica or in Aruba! (NT) -- No name, 23:38:00 01/21/26 Wed (107-179-250-147.cpe.teksavvy.com/107.179.250.147) Palm Springs, CA would be amazing (NT) -- No name, 12:44:18 01/22/26 Thu (NoHost/69.250.36.194) Because it is Miss America, Duh. If you want that move over to Miss USA and take your snobbery with you. (NT) -- No name, 12:11:32 01/23/26 Fri (NoHost/170.211.119.130) Yes, you're the only one. Telluride, CO or nowheresville, UT is not trendy just because some influencer tells you it is (NT) -- No name, 14:31:43 01/23/26 Fri (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) Telluride and Sundance “not trendy”? That’s adorable... especially coming from someone confidently weighing in while surrounded by lawn furniture that’s never seen a patio. Those towns don’t chase trends. They exist above them. They’re the kind of places that don’t need your approval because they’ve already outlasted three of your favorite hot takes. Babi sweetheart, when you’re calling mountain towns irrelevant from a trailer trash vantage point, maybe the issue isn’t the towns. Babi sweetheart. (NT) -- No name, 17:29:29 01/28/26 Wed (107-179-250-147.cpe.teksavvy.com/107.179.250.147) I still wish they would rotate it between 3-5 major cities. Then sponsors might actually donate something if they only have to do it on a cycle. (NT) -- many major organizations do this for their national conventions., 17:35:10 01/28/26 Wed (24-230-142-219-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.142.219)

Subject: Was swimsuit winner ever announced during finals night? If Miss New York who won Miss America was not a preliminary winners what do they mean she won swimsuit?
Author: d... [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 00:13:15 01/26/26 Mon (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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There has not been a swimsuit catagory since Cara won (NT) -- No name, 11:35:56 01/26/26 Mon (NoHost/71.237.132.155) This is when Mallory won. It was posted that Mallory won swimsuit but do they mean at finals? (NT) -- d..., 22:46:20 01/26/26 Mon (17.sub-174-219-50.myvzw.com/174.219.50.17) I have the same question. Mallory was not a swimsuit winner in the prelims. And i do not recall any announcements of category winners on finals night. (NT) -- No name, 17:58:05 01/27/26 Tue (NoHost/159.100.209.51) Miss America 2013 pageant is on YouTube. Go to 40:45 at this link: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=miss+america+2013&&mid=BEFE9A1FCCFCA74B6F2BBEFE9A1FCCFCA74B6F2B&FORM=VRDGAR (NT) -- No name, 19:34:55 01/27/26 Tue (c-73-206-250-152.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.206.250.152)

Subject: Why was it an issue?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:19:12 01/24/26 Sat (NoHost/172.56.33.184) Why did some people raise an eyebrow to winners and contestants that said they only entered Miss America because they wanted the scholarship money. I think it really started back in 1973 when Rebecca King showed no emotion when she won. She clearly stated that she was in it for the $ yet some people didn't like that and I was just wonder why. After all it was and or is just that...a scholarship program..just an observation [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Because I think up to that point people were caught up in the whole fairy tale aspect of the pageant. It was like throwing a cold bucket of water on the fantasy. Face it, would we all have been as invested in Cinderella if she had said her main reason for wanting to go to the ball was to get out of a few hours of housework and hook up with some hot royal guy? Probably not...... (NT) -- No name, 00:51:22 01/25/26 Sun (194.sub-174-238-105.myvzw.com/174.238.105.194) The fantasy was dying when women burned their bras; they sought to be doctors and lawyers; and they bought Cosmo and Playgirl magazines. I remember how competitive the business world was for women back then. (NT) -- No name, 15:16:07 01/27/26 Tue (syn-174-100-040-048.res.spectrum.com/174.100.40.48) I think a lot of the ladies were in it for the scholarships but Rebecca was the first to say so (NT) -- No name, 01:11:43 01/25/26 Sun (177.sub-174-227-69.myvzw.com/174.227.69.177) Her win was also controversial since she advocated for the legalization of marijunaa (NT) -- No name, 23:13:00 01/25/26 Sun (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) Kind of ironic that after she became a judge, she probably sent people to jail for it, lol. (NT) -- No name, 13:22:26 01/26/26 Mon (194.sub-174-238-105.myvzw.com/174.238.105.194) That would be kind of weird to be sentenced to prison by a former Miss America. If I were the convict, in my closing statement before sentencing, I would say " Madam Judge.....you were my choice that night. Thank you " (NT) -- No name, 13:24:38 01/26/26 Mon (194.sub-174-238-105.myvzw.com/174.238.105.194)

Subject: State predictions?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:03:21 01/25/26 Sun (67-6-18-227.clma.centurylink.net/67.6.18.227) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Texas has all four runner ups returning, plus many of the top ten. Two are former state teens and another took over the state title after CO won Miss A.. (NT) -- Given TX has had 1st r/u at Miss A the past 3 years, can’t imagine the pressure!, 21:23:24 01/25/26 Sun (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117) All eyes on TEXAS! (NT) -- No name, 22:57:22 01/25/26 Sun (ec2-18-88-0-238.compute-1.amazonaws.com/18.88.0.238) From what’s there it doesn’t look like TX has any real contenders this year so the streak at nationals may end (NT) -- No name, 01:04:04 01/26/26 Mon (NoHost/172.56.64.164) I'm a proud supporter of the Miss Texas Organization and am stunned (in a good way, of course) at our three consecutive first runner-up placements. Surely, I think, that cannot continue...but then I look at three state wins by Miss New York and in the 1980s, Texas USA winning Miss USA five consecutive years, so anything is possible. All the returnees that you referenced are quality young ladies, intelligent and competitive, so I wouldn't count any one of them out from winning the state title. And, there are a couple of newcomers who could come in and take it all. It's going to be a great pageant week at Miss Texas. (NT) -- No name, 12:29:13 01/26/26 Mon (syn-076-185-104-044.res.spectrum.com/76.185.104.44) Texas has a small class this year it seems. Some locals didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t even crown winners. One local was supposed to crown four Miss and four Teens, but ended up crowning only one Miss. (NT) -- The new Dallas County winner is stunning! Background?, 13:54:28 01/26/26 Mon (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117)

Subject: What is the worst experience anyone has had at a pagent that promoted the "sisterhood" but allowed ugly behavior to take place? I was asking because one time an assistant pagent director gave me the wrong time schedule then acted like it was an accident, so I would purposely be late and have less time to get ready. Then they acted like it was "just an accident".I found out after the pagent they had a "favorite girl", her niece by marriage. Total BS.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:39:46 01/04/26 Sun (165.sub-174-219-231.myvzw.com/174.219.231.165) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Something similar happened to me, as I wasn't told that Interview has been moved up. When I arrived at the time I was told, several of the judges had left. The remaining ones interviewed me, telling me that they could adjust their percentages so that I wouldn't be penalized. The only reason I continued is that my best friend was on his way from threeor four hours away to see me compete. It was my first AND LAST pageant. I still made Top 5. (NT) -- No name, 10:00:53 01/05/26 Mon (NoHost/163.116.145.92) that is so against the rules!!! (NT) -- No name, 12:16:18 01/05/26 Mon (24-230-142-219-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.142.219) ......as typical with many posted messages---lack of information. It would have been nice had you said what year, what state, and fare more importantly which pageant system did this happen to you? I can not imagine it was part of Miss America---unless your state does not have field directors which keeps rules and things in accordance to Miss America (and MAO state) pageant operations. Any reputable (and experienced) MAO state field director -- would be working with the local director on what you said took place., 16:25:01 01/08/26 Thu (syn-137-027-094-098.biz.spectrum.com/137.27.94.98) Actually I was going to say the same thing. No clue which pageant this poster was speaking of. And if it was part of Miss America, there should've been better -- coordination between directors, contestant assistants, and field directors., 18:36:27 01/08/26 Thu (NoHost/144.92.78.144) No, this wasn't an MAO pageant, at all. As this doesn't seem to be an MAO pageant board anymore, I didn't feel itnecessary to post specific information. It happened in Houston, TX and my late friend was driving from Austin. I apologize for any confusion. Carry on. (NT) -- No name, 22:06:42 01/08/26 Thu (c-73-206-250-152.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.206.250.152) Well, it would be of help had you told which pageant system it was---as if it was MAO program, there would have been the issue of state field directors, where he/shew was and did they do their job, as explained above. By naming some other pageant system with your posting, readers here could likely understand your situation a bit better----it would not make it better for you back when your issue happened -- but telling that story it helps to know which pageant system and what year it happened., 02:26:22 01/09/26 Fri (NoHost/144.92.78.144) This was on me for still competing as I had been friend with the year previous 1RU. The directors reached out to her telling her they planned on her winning to start working on her gown when she said she was competing in another pageant they told her they hoped she lost (I saw the messages myself and still competed) after the teens were crowned I witnessed the director telling another she girl wished she would have won and hated the winner. This was after the director was screaming at girls during tech rehearsal not knowing the producers were still micing everyone (NT) -- No name, 14:35:52 01/05/26 Mon (NoHost/146.75.244.182) What happened in Pennsylvania has to be the worst example. (NT) -- No name, 14:40:34 01/05/26 Mon (NoHost/216.125.37.210) I competed at a local pagent in a small town. The director allowed helpers to monitor the interview time. At that time each contestants was supposed to get 8 minutes. I noticed some contestants were getting interrupted at 7 minutes then I noticed another contestant interview was 14 minutes long. Interview was the first phase of the pagent. Guess who won. My friends and I never did that pagent again. (NT) -- No name, 14:50:53 01/05/26 Mon (S0106d4e2cb4f2e60.lm.shawcable.net/96.52.204.55) I was on a local committee for about 3 years. I was amazed at how the local ED would manipulate things to get the girl she wanted. It was usually a girl with rich parents that would cover the expenses to State. That way she didn't have to fundraise. I left after getting fed up with the way she operated. (NT) -- No name, 00:39:54 01/06/26 Tue (80.sub-174-238-98.myvzw.com/174.238.98.80) I judged a small-town high school pageant once that had no connection to MAO. But two of us were MAO local directors at the time. The director of this pageant told us in advance that they did not want a certain contestant to win, and of course she named her, because of certain "behaviors" she exhibited. in school. The other judge and I talked privately and said that we would ignore her information and judge all the girls fairly. The situation worked out OK because the one in question was strong in interview but did not measure up in the onstage competitions. I think she finished second or third runner-up. (NT) -- No name, 09:12:42 01/06/26 Tue (216-24-92-182.unassigned.ntelos.net/216.24.92.182) Employees of public schools in my district are not allowed to share information about the behavior of students outside official means. I would have walked away from that pageant in a heartbeat. What did this director share about other public school students? I wouldn't have said the situation worked out okay. The bias was against this girl. You may have felt principled, but what about the other judges? What if the girl's parents take legal action because of the director's comments? Are you insulated? This would have been a no-go for me. (NT) -- No name, 18:46:48 01/06/26 Tue (syn-174-100-040-048.res.spectrum.com/174.100.40.48) Name names. Let’s make 2026 the year injustices are called out on the local, state & national levels (NT) -- No name, 11:14:14 01/06/26 Tue (NoHost/65.242.102.15) Hear, hear! My friend asked me to judge a county fair pageant alongside her. Categories were basically Interview, Evening Gown and Top 5 Q&A. We were shocked by the second r-up but apparently she was the pre-picked winner, we just didn't know. To us, she was blah. The winner was our favorite, a girl nobody saw coming, but to us the obvious best. They didn't do a very good job of rigging the pageant that year, as we also left, out of the Top 5, a girl whose parents PAID FOR the crown. (NT) -- No name, 21:12:57 01/06/26 Tue (c-73-206-250-152.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.206.250.152) A state USA pageant in 2008 or 2009. We had to get our wardrobe approved. Guess who approved it? The former queen from 2008 who was also a pageant coach to many girls competing. I was not one of those girls and she refused to my gown. I spent 10 grand on my gown. I was able to have it altered but it looked like shit. (NT) -- ., 13:25:40 01/06/26 Tue (c-67-161-101-232.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/67.161.101.232) She obviously sent her "girls" to a specific shop and got a kick back. I would have told the alterations person to just baste the changes in, get her approval, then remove the stitches before I went onstage. Then what's she gonna do? (NT) -- No name, 13:58:41 01/06/26 Tue (77.sub-174-238-107.myvzw.com/174.238.107.77) It wasn't a gown shop issue. It was the WA state USA directors allowing that former to be a coach, approve gowns, be backstage, etc. That former was a nightmare for years to reigning queens and contestants she didn't like. The state director allowed it to happen. (NT) -- I also saw it first hand., 09:20:29 01/18/26 Sun (NoHost/76.146.55.90) I would like to see a discussion on Pageant Mothers from Hell and what Directors had to deal with (NT) -- No name, 18:46:50 01/06/26 Tue (syn-076-032-018-149.res.spectrum.com/76.32.18.149) add to it difficult titleholders… (NT) -- No name, 09:56:00 01/07/26 Wed (NoHost/108.147.32.135) MAOT state contestant was obviously aged out. Had to be reported for the director to finally remove her. Also, girl who ended up winning same pageant entered at large after registration closed. She won the whole thing. This was a southern state in 2009. (NT) -- No name, 21:57:49 01/06/26 Tue (wkt-bband-152-38-106-90.wk.net/152.38.106.90) Beauties of America Pageant in Myrtle Beach -- No name, 01:14:00 01/07/26 Wed (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) I aways thought BOA was a cheese-fest. (NT) -- No name, 08:49:52 01/08/26 Thu (NoHost/69.250.36.194) Why? I thought it was top tier for multi age pageant . Sad that it does not seem to still be around (NT) -- No name, 13:04:55 01/08/26 Thu (66-90-170-243.static.grandenetworks.net/66.90.170.243) I emailed my friend and she didn't respond in regards to the BOA status. Not sure if I would like to see this pageant come back (NT) -- No name, 00:06:50 01/10/26 Sat (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) I judged a pageant that had various age divisions toddler thru teen. The scoring was on a 1 to 10 scale but the director told us not to score anyone below a 5. How can you judge fairly when your arm is twisted like that?!? (NT) -- No name, 01:26:07 01/07/26 Wed (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) Yup, been there. I used the entire scale, as warranted. I was never asked to return, and that was just fine by me! (NT) -- No name, 16:36:15 01/07/26 Wed (syn-076-176-242-118.res.spectrum.com/76.176.242.118) IMHO that was cruel and short-sighted. What did you accomplish by giving someone a 1 or 2 or 4 when giving them a 5 or 6 wouldn't have changed the result of who won. A 5 or 6 would have encouraged them to come back and work harder. Some "judges" shouldn't be asked back because the "power" goes to their head haha You aren't on a jury deciding the fate of the world, you are simply being asked to give your opinion about children in a pageant. Carry on. (NT) -- No name, 17:51:39 01/07/26 Wed (c-73-206-250-152.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.206.250.152) Girls never see their scores in the MAO, so a judge that scores 1- 10 isn't hurting feelings but judging precisely. (NT) -- No name, 21:13:52 01/07/26 Wed (unn-149-40-50-110.datapacket.com/149.40.50.110) Dear Carry On- I pray you never have and never will judge. (NT) -- No name, 08:26:18 01/08/26 Thu (NoHost/63.93.32.130) In my state a local director was asked to judge and she gave every girl either a 7 or and 8. Ridiculous!! She said she prefereed the other judges "decide." and couldnt bear to go lower. (NT) -- Thats one that should never judge!, 10:43:55 01/08/26 Thu (ec2-44-204-198-148.compute-1.amazonaws.com/44.204.198.148) Despite being charged to use scores from 1-10. Despite promising to judge fairly. Despite being asked to JUDGE! What a nut job. So unfair. That's how girls get crowned that shouldn't be. The "I can't judge" judge gives them 7's & 8's in everything, an unqualified girl wins, the other girls are pissed, & the non-judge judge ruins her local girl's competition! (NT) -- No name, 08:47:27 01/13/26 Tue (NoHost/104.28.104.79) I think whatever happened in PA this last year shows that standards no longer exist. I almost wish the clapper who won had succeeded at MA, just so the truth could haver been spoken. (NT) -- No name, 02:06:01 01/24/26 Sat (133-111-106-149.in-addr.arpa.pulsefiber.org/149.106.111.133) She did seem to be a bit like Trump.....Teflon coated. No one could make anything stick to her. (NT) -- No name, 14:16:38 01/24/26 Sat (194.sub-174-238-105.myvzw.com/174.238.105.194)

Subject: Can a Local Director refuse to let a girl enter their pageant due to past behavior that was unacceptable?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:22:40 01/14/26 Wed (syn-076-032-018-149.res.spectrum.com/76.32.18.149) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Such a great question. Was her bad behavior to you? If so, I know I wouldn't want to deal with a problem for a year, but if she just has a bad reputation, have a conversation with her and tell her you will walk away leaving her to figure out everything on her own if you both cannot get along. I had a girl come to me with a lot of baggage from other pageants. I gave her the benefit of the doubt and we truly had a lovely year together. We had such a bond. (NT) -- I always say, God brought them to you for a reason., 01:18:40 01/15/26 Thu (ec2-54-162-168-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com/54.162.168.3) No you cannot (NT) -- No name, 08:02:22 01/15/26 Thu (220.sub-174-230-7.myvzw.com/174.230.7.220) There's always two sides to every story. Sometimes people get a bad reputation just for speaking up for themselves. Now, if she has a history of bar fights and running over people with her car.....well, that's another story and should be examined more closely. (NT) -- No name, 18:06:51 01/15/26 Thu (80.sub-174-238-98.myvzw.com/174.238.98.80) Pennsylvania should have not let the current winner participate since she has a history of bullying (NT) -- No name, 18:25:36 01/15/26 Thu (251.sub-174-227-67.myvzw.com/174.227.67.251) It isn't always 2 sides though. If a girl is posting about getting high and worried that she is pregnant then she is giving herself a reputation. She is also putting an image out there that does not fit with Miss America and being a role model. (NT) -- No name, 12:00:39 01/23/26 Fri (NoHost/170.211.119.130) How about a future contestant whose Mother Bullied another contestant on Facebook during a competition, there are screen shots of the bullying (NT) -- No name, 00:23:04 01/16/26 Fri (syn-076-032-018-149.res.spectrum.com/76.32.18.149) I think they should have a Hunger Games for pageant moms (NT) -- No name, 04:39:40 01/16/26 Fri (159.sub-174-238-96.myvzw.com/174.238.96.159) Girls shouldn't be held responsible for her mother's behavior (NT) -- No name, 20:00:29 01/19/26 Mon (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) But they are, since it's a package deal. No director wants a pushy, problematic family all year. (NT) -- No name, 13:14:47 01/20/26 Tue (a172-225-30-235.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com/172.225.30.235) Have you had the alleged screenshots verified by someone with a technical degree in the field? The reason why is because sometimes people have made up allegations. They make fake social media accounts or have a friend do it and than accuse their targets of this type of behavior. It's not always what it seems and there is 3 sides to every story. My question is did anyone make a Police Report? Did anyone go to police and ask them to investigate the allegations? Has anyone in authority even questioned the person being accused? To make these allegations and not go to the police, makes me question the alleged allegations of " online bullying from an adult". This is serious to accuse someone of it, without any proof. (NT) -- No name, 22:22:44 01/20/26 Tue (unn-79-127-222-154.datapacket.com/79.127.222.154) as soon as the mother posted the bullying on Facebook, over 20 people saw it online and made screen shots. The mother made threats to a contestant and her mother, wanting her to meet her in the parking lot of the hotel so she could confront and possible strke her, it was all in the facebook post. This was sent to the Facebook Police to have the mother kicked off of facebook, and facebook never investigate. Robin talked of banning the mother from attending future competitions but never followed through. All the information at screen shots were sent to miss america (NT) -- No name, 00:04:50 01/21/26 Wed (syn-076-032-018-149.res.spectrum.com/76.32.18.149) Why wasn't that reported to the Police in the city the alleged mother's residence? Without a police report and an actual investigation by police. It's a little suspect, I don't know. Call the police and make a report. (NT) -- No name, 19:22:51 01/21/26 Wed (unn-79-127-147-210.datapacket.com/79.127.147.210) In general, local orgs. Have very little say with anything. They must tow the rope on the whims of what their state orgs want and the national office. There is almost no protection for local orgs. (NT) -- No name, 07:11:28 01/20/26 Tue (NoHost/107.127.42.48) Yes! It happened about 15 years ago. There was a girl that had a reputation for writing bad checks to directors for entry fees. She was banned from several pageants as word got around what she was doing (NT) -- No name, 12:12:39 01/20/26 Tue (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) I remember a contestant, perhaps in the early 2000's, from Ohio that was not allowed to compete in locals after dropping out of several locals. Not sure if it was the same local season or the next year. I believe she was a seasoned contestant and had been to Miss Ohio before. (NT) -- No name, 17:52:23 01/20/26 Tue (c-76-134-66-218.hsd1.ar.comcast.net/76.134.66.218) Wasn't Erika Dunlap pretty much blackballed in FL. This may just be a rumor, but I heard she dropped out of a local at the last minute causing them not to be able to award a title because it put them below the minimum. As I said, maybe that's just a rumor. But I do know that she and Mary Sullivan were not on the greatest terms. Maybe that was why? 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Subject: Has It Ever Really Happened
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:42:24 01/16/26 Fri (NoHost/169.156.15.222) Does anyone have first hand knowledge of back stage sabotage at any pageant? Rumors fly that some have had their evening gown bags glued shut... those kind of things. I was just wondering at which pageant would that have been more likely . State or national...Teen Or Miss [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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In Kentucky in 2012 a someone took a black magic marker to someones swimsuit (NT) -- No name, 14:01:34 01/16/26 Fri (NoHost/128.163.239.165) Teen nationals in 2008 or 2009, fitness shorts were stolen, a contestant's jazz shoe was tampered with and she ended up slipping/falling during rehearsal and ended up in a boot (NT) -- No name, 14:10:25 01/16/26 Fri (NoHost/107.123.17.55) Not MAO but Christy Woods stepped on someone’s hand in rehearsal and when she was in teen 06 (NT) -- No name, 18:50:03 01/16/26 Fri (239.sub-174-227-73.myvzw.com/174.227.73.239) Christy Woods was in Teen USA 96, not 06 (NT) -- No name, 19:57:38 01/19/26 Mon (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) I was a contestant in a local in 2008 or so when another contestant’s pointe shoe ribbons were cut backstage. Thankfully she had a backup pair ready but I was shocked when it happened. (NT) -- Former, 08:11:03 01/17/26 Sat (NoHost/172.56.212.47) NY 2025. The results being brought backstage while the Top 5 stood waiting (NT) -- No name, 08:41:44 01/17/26 Sat (NoHost/172.56.160.229) At a local in Virginia many years ago (like 30 or more) two contestants were arrested for actually stealing clothes from other contestants. (NT) -- No name, 09:09:50 01/17/26 Sat (216-24-92-182.unassigned.ntelos.net/216.24.92.182) But what does that mean? I'm not sure what you're implying (NT) -- No name, 19:58:09 01/19/26 Mon (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) One girls interview dress was hidden aka stolen prior to their interview. This occurred at a state pageant. Also their was an incident where a contestant was seen rubbing a circle of bronze body spry self tanner on a 4k gown of another contestant. The stain was as big as a basketball, it had to have destroyed the gown. (NT) -- No name, 22:44:05 01/20/26 Tue (unn-79-127-222-154.datapacket.com/79.127.222.154) There have been evening gowns that got cut up in the contestants dressing room. I have also witnessed a contestant "accidentally on purpose" that walked with dirty shoes on a gorgeous light colored gown leaving several dirty footprints on it. There have been reports of contestants finding water, sugar, or other substances that have been placed inside their haircare products. (NT) -- No name, 23:42:42 01/20/26 Tue (NoHost/94.20.222.244)

Subject: Of all Miss America winners (winners only) who were your favorite 1. TALENT. 2. SWIMSUIT 3. EVENING GOWN ? Example: (mine) 1. Talent - Terry Meesuwen 2. Swimsuit - Shirley Cothran 3. Evening Gown - Erika Dunlap
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 03:40:20 01/11/26 Sun (3.sub-174-238-101.myvzw.com/174.238.101.3) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Great list! Mine might be 1. Talent - Heather Whitestone 2. Swimsuit - Susan Akin 3. Evening Gown - Susan Akin (NT) -- No name, 13:35:35 01/11/26 Sun (c-73-206-250-152.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.206.250.152) Talent: Cassie Donegan Swimsuit: Elizabeth Ward Evening Gown: Erica Dunlap (NT) -- fa, 16:07:12 01/11/26 Sun (184-97-57-142.lcrs.centurylink.net/184.97.57.142) Apeaking of Elizabeth Ward, she's judging the Miss Gay America pageant this week in Little Rock, AR. (NT) -- No name, 12:39:47 01/13/26 Tue (NoHost/163.116.254.48) Is she still acting at all? Last photo I saw of her she had cut her hair very short and is blond now. She looks very Jamie Lee Curtisy.. ... (NT) -- No name, 19:26:07 01/14/26 Wed (3.sub-174-238-101.myvzw.com/174.238.101.3) This is hard Heather Whitestone talent Gown Kira ( liked her talent too) (NT) -- No name, 17:36:00 01/11/26 Sun (27.sub-174-221-128.myvzw.com/174.221.128.27) I love the Kira prelim gown. Too bad that year they all had to wear other gowns for finals and the mainstream public didn't get to see this couture type gown. (NT) -- No name, 15:48:32 01/14/26 Wed (c-73-98-223-111.hsd1.ut.comcast.net/73.98.223.111) I was thinking about that dress recently. Is there a way to access a photo.? Why did they have to change? I heard her mom made the finals gown. All I remember about it was it had some kind of pointy witchy looking shoulders. (NT) -- No name, 19:30:02 01/14/26 Wed (3.sub-174-238-101.myvzw.com/174.238.101.3) This was a year a deal was made and one designer made all the gowns as requested by the contestant. Some ended up getting off the rack versions though. Kira's finals gown was like the one her mom made for NY, but that one was green and she was crowned in a white version. Here is a pic of the prelim gown. https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/kira-kazantsev-miss-new-york-in-evening-gown-at-atlantic-news-photo/455301086 (NT) -- No name, 17:50:02 01/15/26 Thu (c-73-98-223-111.hsd1.ut.comcast.net/73.98.223.111) Talent: Vanessa and Marjorie; Swim: Angela; Gown: Vanessa (both competition and crowning gowns were so high fashion) (NT) -- Sonia, 09:22:57 01/15/26 Thu (ool-182f1de3.dyn.optonline.net/24.47.29.227) I think my Talent is Leanza. Gown, so, so many but Kim Aiken stands out. Swim I'd have to think about. (NT) -- No name, 18:30:07 01/11/26 Sun (syn-075-082-032-207.res.spectrum.com/75.82.32.207) Talent, Vanessa; Swimsuit, Kaye Lani; and EG, Elizabeth. (NT) -- No name, 21:37:33 01/11/26 Sun (NoHost/212.15.83.93) Talent: Dorothy Benham: Gown: Heather French; Swimsuit: so many but I'll go with Debra Maffet (NT) -- No name, 23:48:19 01/11/26 Sun (174-20-188-207.mpls.qwest.net/174.20.188.207) My range covers 60 years (1959-2018). TALENT- Judith Ford. SWIMSUIT- Heather French. GOWN- Shirley Cothran. (NT) -- fun topic. Narrowing down to 1 each was hard!, 00:26:34 01/12/26 Mon (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) Wow, even Heather French was surprised with her swimsuit win. (NT) -- No name, 01:17:40 01/12/26 Mon (184-97-57-142.lcrs.centurylink.net/184.97.57.142) That's either a lie, or it was false modesty. She looked objectively fantastic. weird fight to pick for no reason. pic here: https://www.google.com/search?q=heather+french+swimsuit&oq=heather+french+swimsuit&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIICAEQABgWGB4yCggCEAAYogQYiQUyBwgDEAAY7wUyCggEEAAYgAQYogQyBwgFEAAY7wUyCggGEAAYgAQYogTSAQgzMjMxajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#sv=CAMSZxowKg41UnN4TGVKNFJxdHg1TTIONVJzeExlSjRScXR4NU06DlEwVVl0WjM4UGpmNU9NIAQqLwobX3ZiVmthZDc4SW9TM3F0c1BySTJNLVFZXzgwEg41UnN4TGVKNFJxdHg1TRgAMAEYByC94ZqWDDACSgoIAhACGAIgAigC (NT) -- ?, 03:52:16 01/12/26 Mon (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) Heather has said many times she was shocked with her win. She never won swimsuit at state the entire 6 years she competed. (NT) -- No name, 15:11:11 01/12/26 Mon (NoHost/128.163.239.165) Well, not sure if you've heard, but women train for Miss America. (NT) -- 'Wow', as if someone choosing a body that looks like this is inconceivable to you. People are WILD., 17:43:46 01/12/26 Mon (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) For the record, I love Heather French. She was definitely my pick that year, especially after the final five INTERVIEW with Marie Osmond. They should have never done away with that final interview. I enjoyed her talent, and her gown was gorgeous. You are certainly entitled to your own opinion. I just thought it odd that of all the Miss Americas, she was your favorite in swimsuit, when even Heather was surprised with her swimsuit win. (NT) -- No name, 12:22:12 01/13/26 Tue (184-97-57-142.lcrs.centurylink.net/184.97.57.142) She laughed when they called her name, which surely further endeared her to the judges. (NT) -- No name, 13:21:52 01/13/26 Tue (NoHost/163.116.254.48) Funny....when I cut-pasted that website link a photo of a man in tight underwear or swimsuit showed-up called the Bikini French Heather...lol -- http://www.tof-paris.com/en/underwear-briefs/771-french-bikini-heather-grey.html, 13:16:13 01/14/26 Wed (syn-071-013-148-190.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.148.190) In the era of the interview queen that began around the late '90s, a number of contestants won swimsuit for their first time at Miss America. The category became best interview queen in a swimsuit. (NT) -- No name, 10:21:44 01/13/26 Tue (NoHost/163.116.254.48) Do you think Heather's win was a sympathy win? (NT) -- No name, 19:56:10 01/13/26 Tue (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) Sympathy for what? (NT) -- No name, 20:53:49 01/13/26 Tue (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117) Sympathy for her disability-up to that point there had never been a Miss America with a disability (NT) -- No name, 21:39:10 01/13/26 Tue (syn-035-150-243-219.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.219) Are you referring to Heather Whitestone? I thought we were commenting about Heather French… (NT) -- Who won swimsuit, 23:03:49 01/13/26 Tue (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117) Heather did not need a sympathy win , she deserved the win (NT) -- No name, 16:44:03 01/14/26 Wed (230.sub-174-221-152.myvzw.com/174.221.152.230) On the quality that ballet dance, Heather Whitestone earned the crown. (NT) -- No name, 15:40:24 01/15/26 Thu (syn-174-100-040-048.res.spectrum.com/174.100.40.48) Heather's win was probably the most emotionally charged win in the history of the Miss America program. I've never been a big fan of ballet, but Heather's performance was beautifully executed. I wish I would have been in the audience the night she was crowned. (NT) -- No name, 05:58:38 01/19/26 Mon (184-97-57-142.lcrs.centurylink.net/184.97.57.142) Talent - Dorothy Benham, Swimsuit - Carolyn Sapp and Evening Gown - Kim Aiken. (NT) -- No name, 16:04:00 01/14/26 Wed (NoHost/172.56.85.229) Talent - Susan Powell. Swimsuit - Carolyn Sapp. Gown - Kim Aiken. (NT) -- Ima (Jean) Starall-Reddy, 19:56:53 01/17/26 Sat (NoHost/172.59.88.224) Talent-Cheryl Prewitt SS- Susan Akin EG-Erica Dunlap (NT) -- No name, 23:25:24 01/18/26 Sun (long01cpe14-37.tx.cablelynx.com/206.255.13.37)

Subject: I've noticed among several State Queens the trend of having a goal of having at least one appearance in every county of their respective states. Has there ever been a Miss America that visited all 50 states during her reign? If not, who came the closest?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:50:14 01/04/26 Sun (217.sub-174-210-69.myvzw.com/174.210.69.217) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Not any recent winners (NT) -- No name, 21:04:14 01/04/26 Sun (ip-185-104-139-73.ptr.icomera.net/185.104.139.73) Our state winners loved to talk about visiting all 88 counties in the state. Has NEVER happened since anyone competing now has been alive. (NT) -- No name, 11:41:14 01/06/26 Tue (NoHost/43.225.189.155) 88 Counties, I know where you are from. I have seen the "State Fair" Queen visit all of them by attending all the county fairs, but I doubt Miss State has enough content to get booked at all 88 counties. (NT) -- No name, 19:47:56 01/17/26 Sat (syn-104-230-255-036.res.spectrum.com/104.230.255.36) Also, what’s up with everyone writing a children’s book nowadays? -- No name, 11:42:40 01/06/26 Tue (NoHost/50.228.74.133) It's been like that for a decade. They can self publish on Amazon so it's not the flex they think it is (NT) -- ., 13:18:42 01/06/26 Tue (c-67-161-101-232.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/67.161.101.232) Emmie Perkins, Miss Mississippi from a couple of years ago visited all 82 counties in MS doing school programs (NT) -- No name, 16:04:12 01/06/26 Tue (104-8-42-23.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net/104.8.42.23) When Tara Wheeler was Miss Virginia, she had a goal to visit all the counties in the state. I think there are 95 of them. I am not sure if she succeeded, but I know she toured some of deep Southwest Virginia, which is the most difficult part of the state to navigate. (NT) -- No name, 09:52:42 01/08/26 Thu (216-24-92-182.unassigned.ntelos.net/216.24.92.182) Didn't she also shave her head for her platform. I think it had something to do with Cancer Awareness? (NT) -- No name, 16:36:20 01/08/26 Thu (77.sub-174-238-107.myvzw.com/174.238.107.77) She did!!! It was for St. Baldrics. Nancy Lucy would probably lose her mind if one of her Miss Virginia's decided to do that now - more than likely wouldn't even be allowed. (NT) -- No name, 14:50:23 01/13/26 Tue (NoHost/195.252.230.55) I think it is great if they set that goal because it gives them something to strive for. However, it is difficult to get paid appearances in every county so there has to be money for travel and they have to have a reason to go. School visits are the easiest. Most schools will let Miss State come speak to an assembly or classrooms. (NT) -- No name, 10:36:01 01/08/26 Thu (75-144-226-225-Tallahassee.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/75.144.226.225) It is dumb. One lame title holder I know of bragged about visiting every county. She literally drove through and would snap a pic. Stupid and performative. (NT) -- No name, 19:26:21 01/08/26 Thu (ip70-187-0-207.om.om.cox.net/70.187.0.207) I'm pretty sure Jennifer Pitts visited every county when she was Miss Virginia (NT) -- No name, 13:14:45 01/08/26 Thu (NoHost/136.226.50.125) There are 254 counties in TX. (NT) -- No name, 15:50:43 01/08/26 Thu (NoHost/163.116.254.50) Well then Miss Texas needs to stock up on Dramamine! (NT) -- No name, 16:37:21 01/08/26 Thu (77.sub-174-238-107.myvzw.com/174.238.107.77) Since Rhode Island only has 5 counties, that would be easily accomplished. So visiting all 39 cities and towns would probably be a better goal to shoot for. (NT) -- Anon, 19:34:52 01/08/26 Thu (175.sub-174-224-161.myvzw.com/174.224.161.175)

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