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Subject: No, I am not saying that. (click to read more inside)

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Date Posted: 00:10:49 04/08/05 Fri
In reply to: Rambacker 's message, "I'm sorry to hear this. Are you saying that you are planning on shutting down the basketball message board? That would be a shame because it has been a forum for positive change and is read by Fordham administrators. I am sure that logging on with an e-mail address will severely limit quality posts from significant people who can make a difference at Fordham. There must be a solution here." on 22:42:57 04/07/05 Thu

I am saying that if it comes down to having to search for a new board or shutting down the current board, I will opt for the easier solution which is to shut it down. The other moderators and myself are doing what we can for it not to come down to that. As for the quality posts that we would lose, I ask you to please show me a few examples b/c other than your recruiting posts the only things on there are not exactly revolutionary. I suspect that you are concerned about your own anonymity and are trying to make this into a bigger deal than it is (and I do not mean that as an insult, though it may sound like one). If you point out a few examples I would change my tune, but I am just not seeing it right now.

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My greatest concern here is that I disagree with you on the value of the posts on these two boards in general. Most of the posts may not be "revolutionary", but the boards serve as a forum for alums, fans, students and administrators to express their views on our athletic program. This has never been done before and is invaluable for FU administrators to gauge the "wind" direction. It has had a positive effect already. As for me, I'll just stop posting if we need to provide e-mail addresses, as will some others. No big deal. (NT) Rambacker 12:53:32 04/08/05 Fri

Did you not register on the A-10 board which requires an email for registration? My ultimate point, which we will have to agree to disagree on, is that anonymous posts from an administrator have little value. What provides value in my opinion is the posts by alums that can be read by administrators. That valuable piece will not be lost in my opinion. Either way, this is probably a bit too much debate on a topic that most likely will not happen anyway, at least b/c of my doing. (NT) -- ace93, 13:33:39 04/08/05 Fri

No, I only read the A-10 Message Board, I don't post there. You can read without registering there. Here's my point - some alums who can help greatly with posts will no longer go on the board if there is an e-mail requirement, therefore their valuable posts will disappear. The result? A much watered down message board. (NT) -- Rambacker, 15:19:22 04/08/05 Fri

While I include my e-mail address when posting on either the FB or BB boards, I understand why others don't. These boards have their share of silliness, yet disussion here is generally on a pretty high level. Aside from talk about this game or that player, there have been broad-ranging discussions on these boards--of Fordham's direction as an an institution, of the role athletics could/should play in a national university, even of development & campus architecture--that WOULD be of interest to me if I were a trustee or administrator. Let's not "throw out the baby with the bath water." (NT) -- Ram'69, 22:55:47 04/09/05 Sat

This situation is not so much about whether or not these boards are valuable, although I may have sort of turned it into that. It is mainly about moderators being unable to monitor things in a timely enough manner to keep up with the nonsense that goes on. On a board that does requires registration it does not completely disappear, but it does make life a bit easier. I will use my example from above again, in a 4 hour period I was asked to delete a post 3 times. Is it unreasonable to think that one person is unable to visit the board over 4 hours and therefore unable to delete something? (NT) -- ace93, 23:18:17 04/09/05 Sat
If someone is capable of posting on these boards then they are capable of opening a hotmail account for example. In your case you could open an account such as Rambacker@hotmail.com. You would then be as traceable as you are now b/c the only thing people would have is your IP address, same as moderators do now. (NT) -- ace93, 23:35:17 04/09/05 Sat

Sorry, this message was meant as a continuation of my message to Rambacker, not you Ram'69. (NT) -- ace93, 23:37:53 04/09/05 Sat
When I said "people" would have your IP I meant moderators, not the general board posters. (NT) -- ace93, 23:39:30 04/09/05 Sat

This hangup on an email sort of worries me. Are administrators, people on the Board and valuable alums really that unresourceful that they cannot open up an email account through one of the numerous free email providers and use that to register? If that is that impossible and/or difficult then we have bigger things to worry about. (NT) -- ace93, 23:25:01 04/09/05 Sat

I like the present format, as I think many others do. Is it possible you could get some more help monitoring the board? Provide strict guidelines and get help from a few students? 6th Man Club? (NT) -- Rambacker, 09:26:11 04/10/05 Sun

The problem is that currently you are unable to give "limited rights" to other users to help moderate the board. Voy is supposed to be adding this feature, but it will force users to pay for its use. I don't want to ask anyone to shell out money to help moderate the board. Then again, something needs to be done, I cannot continue to do this alone. (NT) -- Rob Smith, 10:33:30 04/11/05 Mon

Do you have people that are interested in helping to moderate? (NT) -- Rambacker, 11:04:29 04/11/05 Mon

Everyone I have talked to declined saying they didn't have enough time. (NT) -- Rob Smith, 13:44:02 04/11/05 Mon

Perhaps it's worth a new post asking for people who would be interested in helping. You might find a few prospects. (NT) -- Rambacker, 22:39:33 04/11/05 Mon
I'd be willing to help moderate but I'd have to stay anonymous so I'll just use my initials (NT) -- FXM, 16:04:03 04/12/05 Tue