MIKE KNE- remember the name ? probably Clawson's finest OL recruit ever -out of Ohio; Fordham drag in the financial aid office going into his soph year caused his father to decide he had to go elsewhere; he walked on at Ohio State and ESPN just showed his pic as starting Tackle for Ohio State in its Bowl game. -- FORDHAM RAMS FOOTBALL FORUM

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Subject: MIKE KNE- remember the name ? probably Clawson's finest OL recruit ever -out of Ohio; Fordham drag in the financial aid office going into his soph year caused his father to decide he had to go elsewhere; he walked on at Ohio State and ESPN just showed his pic as starting Tackle for Ohio State in its Bowl game.

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Yes Mike Kne was a great O-lineman. We both came in as freshman together, but just to let you know he left Fordham over having to pay $500 a semester. He let his former teamates down, but it's good to see him getting playing time now. I'm sure he worked really hard to get there and I hope he makes it to the NFL. (NT) Prince 02:16:52 12/30/04 Thu

Kne was a casualty of the need-based aid system. His ordeal with the financial aid office is perfect example of why we should play scholarship football. Glad to hear he started in last night�s Alamo Bowl, which Ohio State won, 33-7 over Oklahoma State. (NT) -- ramMan, 08:57:34 12/30/04 Thu

I saw KNE on ESPN last night as well # 52 ...Tell FU to tell recruits... to make sure to tell his parents dont work OT, get a Pay raise, bonus or have Mom go back to work... otherwise FU will reduce his Aid... this system sucks... if I were a parent I would tell him to take a full scholarship offer.. not this Aid based BS...please leave the Patriot league.. A-10 now (NT) -- Painful, 09:18:12 12/30/04 Thu

Thanks for that input, Prince. It had been described a little differently to me. Go Rams. (NT) -- rambo, 12:46:48 12/31/04 Fri

That was the situation told to me going into our sophmore year. It may or may not be accurate (NT) -- Prince, 23:44:51 12/31/04 Fri

my guess is that prince has the info all wrong, as usual. (NT) -- princess diana, 13:32:51 01/01/05 Sat

Prince has about half of it right. Mike had the ability to transfer and play at Ohio State. Do you think he would have ignored that opportuity to stay at Fordham over a couple thousand bucks? You are don't know Mike that well if that is what you think. (NT) -- #44, 15:43:07 01/01/05 Sat

I am not saying he was wrong for going to Ohio State. It was good for him and bad for our team. It was his right and nobody on the team ever said he was wrong. (NT) -- Prince, 17:07:07 01/02/05 Sun

I understand that. These guys think that the only reason he transfered was because the finacial aid package. That had little if anything to do with it. He felt he could play at a higher level. Not everyone thinks spending four years in the bronx is the greatest thing in the world. (NT) -- #44, 08:14:47 01/03/05 Mon

" These guys think that the only reason he transfered"- no, "these guys" who have supported the program for 30 years, were merely questioning how we could let a player of this caliber go IF it were true that it was due to ineptness in the financial aid department; your explanation makes me feel better about it since you are saying that had nothing to do with it; and don't be so sarcastic about "these guys" who are looking out for the best interests of all players who choose to come to the Bronx to play football. (NT) -- rambo, 10:31:11 01/03/05 Mon

Two quotes: "I am not saying he was wrong for going to Ohio State." and "He let his former teamates down, but it's good to see him getting playing time now." Which is it Prince? (NT) -- J�Dete93, 23:47:42 01/03/05 Mon

He did let us down, but that's not to say I am not happy to see him playing on national tv. I still consider him a friend and we talked a few times after he went to Ohio State. As a team it hurt us, but it was his life and his decision and a real friend isn't going to say I hope he does bad. What should I say, that I hope he fails, no that would be stupid and if you have a problem with me saying I wish him the best then you have a problem. (NT) -- Prince, 01:27:24 01/04/05 Tue

In one quote you said he let you guys down and in another you said he was not wrong for leaving, to me that sounded contradictory. A guy letting his team down sounds like a wrong thing to me. Your saying you wished him well seemed more like an aftertought since it was preceeded by a "but". I never said I had a problem with yoour wishing him the best. (NT) -- J�Dete93, 23:49:02 01/04/05 Tue

People do things that are good for themselves, but bad for others.By going to OSU, he did something that was bad for our team, and he thought it was good for himself. . (NT) -- Prince, 12:33:22 01/05/05 Wed
Now in my opinion he made a terrible decision. I would rather start every game for four years at Fordham and get the chance to play a lot football, rather than go to OSU and scrub. Mike didn't play a lot at OSU. He redshirted a year, was on scout team for a year, and backed-up the past two years and I believe the only reason why he started the bowl game was because someone was hurt. Now if you consider yourself a person who loves playing football, then that doesn't seem like a fair trade just to stand on the sidelines of a nationally televised game. (NT) -- Prince, 12:34:48 01/05/05 Wed

Re: Now in my opinion he made a terrible decision. I would rather start every game for four years at Fordham and get the chance to play a lot football, rather than go to OSU and scrub. Mike didn't play a lot at OSU. He redshirted a year, was on scout team for a year, and backed-up the past two years and I believe the only reason why he started the bowl game was because someone was hurt. Now if you consider yourself a person who loves playing football, then that doesn't seem like a fair trade just to stand on the sidelines of a nationally televised game. -- NAGY, 17:30:52 01/24/05 Mon

"He let his former teammates down", then what is that supposed to mean? (NT) -- '85, 11:52:20 01/04/05 Tue

It means that he disappointed us by not being there our sophmore year. We built a good chemistry between our O-line during the spring and he threw it off by transferring. (NT) -- Prince, 15:35:09 01/04/05 Tue

I recall talking with his parents in the stands during a game in September 1999 and both said they were "thrilled that their son was able to come to a great school like Fordham and it was only costing them about $5,000 because of the football aid." Something must have happened after that! (NT) RAMY 13:38:57 01/03/05 Mon

A lady from the financial aid office would not return his parents call -- too busy, as I was told --during the summer when they were trying to find out how much aid he would be eligible for his second year. As it turns out, he was given more than the year before, but the information came too late. I heard it from Coach Clawson. BTW, the same lady was an albatross for Nick Quartaro. (NT) -- heard it from both coaches, 14:30:49 01/03/05 Mon

That is the accurate truth. The financial aid office here is THE WORST and was a major reason for Clawson wanting to leave Fordham for a perceived "lateral" move to Richmond. He didn't want to have to deal with financial aid, and Fordham's financial aid office in particular. (NT) -- Guy, 21:30:15 01/03/05 Mon

The financial aid department did get a little better as I was leaving in 2003-2004, but some of the blame must also be put on the players because we continually turned in the papers they needed late. (NT) -- Prince, 16:14:04 01/11/05 Tue

A true irony is that "the lady's" son played under Quartaro. She's not AFF, just incompetent (NT) -- fu-worker, 22:25:22 01/04/05 Tue

And her name would be? (NT) -- Rambacker, 22:34:51 01/04/05 Tue
That is what I heard originally also; pray tell she's not still there. (NT) -- rambo, 09:32:32 01/05/05 Wed

Re: MIKE KNE- remember the name ? probably Clawson's finest OL recruit ever -out of Ohio; Fordham drag in the financial aid office going into his soph year caused his father to decide he had to go elsewhere; he walked on at Ohio State and ESPN just showed his pic as starting Tackle for Ohio State in its Bowl game. fordham football drop-out 21:58:36 01/11/05 Tue