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Subject: New NCAA press release

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Date Posted: 21:30:55 01/17/05 Mon

...discussions...have begun about the possibility of distinguishing Division I football programs without the use of the I-A and I-AA labels. One concept under consideration would be to distinguish Division I programs by scholarship and other qualifying criteria for competitive purposes only...

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I like that proposal about counting one game vs. I-AA for bowl purposes. Would make it possible for a team like Fordham, Holy Cross, or Georgetown to finally get a game vs. BC or ND. Whether we would want to without being a scholarship level team of course is another story. (NT) DamnRam 21:40:43 01/17/05 Mon

The rules changes being considered here, if implemented, would level the playing field somewhat between Div. 1-A and 1-AA football programs and would help Fordham. Let's wait to see what changes are actually implemented before we get too excited. (NT) Rambacker 22:23:44 01/17/05 Mon

Re: They could also enhance the relationship between the service academies and the PL in football, which is good for all PL FB programs. (NT) -- Go...'gate, 22:52:13 01/17/05 Mon

Re: I wonder if they will trot out the old "Colllege" and University" D-1 distinction, which would not be good. Maybe the answer is to call everybody Division I and let the marketplace decide. (NT) -- Go...'gate, 22:55:42 01/17/05 Mon

Go.'Gate - Why do you think the rules changes would help the relationship between the PL and service academies? (NT) -- Rambacker, 09:14:36 01/18/05 Tue

Re: They would not suffer as much of a post-season penalty as they do now-they can't play us as much, if at all, due to the 1-AA designation. Notwithstanding what Chet Gladchuk says is his "Ask the AD" column, it would enhance the Navy schedule to see a Princeton, Fordham, Lehigh or Dartmouth on the schedule at Annapolis, as was the case for many years. The academies like to think of themselves as academically prestigious schools and they would probably rather play a PL or Ivy than most A-10 or MAC schools. (NT) -- Go...'gate, 10:46:36 01/18/05 Tue

I have to disagree. Although the service academies are certainly strong academically, they have both committed in recent years to upgrading football(see Navy's recent bowl appearance) and would not want to lower their RPI by playing a Patriot League, non-scholarship program for that reason. RPI will be based on scholarship vs. need-based under the new scenario so I think that's wishful thinking on your part. (NT) -- Rambacker, 22:31:57 01/18/05 Tue

Re: Perhaps, but let's face it - Army and Navy, by their own admission, have returned to a "4-4-3" scheduling philosophy - 4 stretch games, 4 games with an equal opponent, and 4 games with an opponent against whom they will be favored. Many so-called "non-scholarship" schools have fit into that model historically, among them Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Pennsylvania, Colgate, Lafayette, Holy Cross, Lehigh, and Bucknell. These days, Fordham certainly falls into that class of opponent. I will concede, however, that a 25, 40 or 63-scholarship program might be more attaractive. (NT) -- Go...'gate, 20:28:15 01/19/05 Wed

The name of the game now is to get to a bowl game ($$$ + prestige)- there are so many of them. Power ratings get you there and playing a non-scholarship team hurts the power rating more than playing a 1-AA scholarship team. (NT) -- Rambacker, 10:10:36 01/20/05 Thu