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Vietnam Security Police Association, Inc. (USAF)
Welcome Home to Vietnam Security Police Association, Inc.

The Vietnam Security Police Association, Inc. (USAF) is an association for USAF Vietnam War Veterans
who served in Vietnam or Thailand from 1960-1975 as Security / Air Police, or as an augmentee.
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Vietnam Security Police Association, Inc. (USAF)

  • Another New Member Introduction! -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Sun, Apr 26 2009, 10:50:59 PDT (97-120-199-79.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.199.79)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Dale "Doc" Borland to membership in the VSPA. Doc served at Tan Son Nhut in 1968-69, and now lives in North Carolina. He found out about the VSPA on the Tan Son Nhut Association website.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • Another New Member Introduction! -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Sun, Apr 26 2009, 11:22:40 PDT (97-120-199-79.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.199.79)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming John Henson to membership in the VSPA. John served at Da Nang and Phu Cat in 1969-70, and currently lives in Illinois. He found the VSPA by discovering our dazzling and information-filled website.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • VSPA Life Member Number 555! -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Sun, Apr 26 2009, 14:34:02 PDT (97-120-199-79.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.199.79)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in congratulating VSPA's newest Life Member, Fred Trainor. Just by the luck of timing, Fred gets Life Membership Number 555 - Triple Nickel. Fred's been a member for about a year and a half, and lives in California. He served at Korat in 1965-66.

    Out of curiosity just now I looked up the Air Force's Triple Nickel fighter squadron and learned that they were in Thailand for years, including the time that Fred spent there although at different bases. They were so effective with their F-4's their motto became "World's Largest Distributor of MiG Parts." I got this from a fact sheet about them at: http://www.aviano.af.mil/library/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=4353

    Congratulations, Fred, and Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • ALL VETS REUNION -- JOE PIZZIMENTI (HAPPY), Mon, Apr 27 2009, 10:48:48 PDT (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
    I left Viet Nam in mid 1966 and just attended the 23 all Vets reunion in Melbourne Fla..my first ever Nam reunion.
    Brothers allow me to tell you that to attend is a way to be reborn..my god it was wonderful. 35,000 Brothers and others enjoying life.
    My highlight was amazing..I was in the Security Police Camp and a red jeep pulled up, the driver called to me.."Do you know where ted is?" I told him and turned to walk away..I then heard "Joe is that you"? The driver was Bob Johns, we had served together in Nam 65/66 at Bien Hoa and DaNang and have not seen each other since coming home..but theres more...we chatted and he asked "what have you done in life since then"? I told him I was a Police Officer in Daytona Fla and have retired..he told me he was with the Fla Highway Patrol also in Daytona(across the street from DBPD), we also found out that we lived within 3/4 of a mile from each other.
    Amazing.! durning the week at the reunion I was recognized by 3 guys who asked if I had been an Instructor at Lackland..I said yes at AP/SP tech school and at Camp Bullis..all three said they thought so and remembered me by sight anyway.(guess I made an impression)
    Brothers let me tell you this..going to an all vets reunion is a MUST that you have to accomplish before we all have that final Guardmount...there is no way to describe all that went on, the ghosts that I put to rest and the feeling of brotherhood experienced.
    I would be remiss if I did nt mention Ted Whitlock with VSPA, that guy is the hardest worker I have ever met, an all around great guy and the man who convinced me to attend the reunion....I will attend each reunion until they close the lid on my casket.
    Hope to see you all in Arizona and here in Fla next April at the next Reunion
    In Brotherhood

    Joe Pizzimenti

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  • How many members do we have? -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Mon, Apr 27 2009, 9:58:40 PDT (97-115-71-55.ptld.qwest.net/97.115.71.55)
    Ron Eberhart posted a good question in response to one of my new member introductions yesterday. He wanted to know exactly how many members VSPA actually has now.

    Well, after consulting the Wizard behind the curtain (Webmaster Don Poss) I'm pleased to be able to announce that VSPA has 1,269 active members.

    Not too shabby, especially if you consider that there are always a handful who are late on their dues by a month or three or five, so the real total is even a little better than that.

    Welcome Home, Brothers!

    Phil

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  • Are you ready for some baseball? -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Fri, Apr 24 2009, 16:06:43 PDT (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
    We are having some beautiful weather in New England and the 1st game between the Boston Red Sox and that team from NY is on tonight. Pitchers are John Lester for Sox and Jonathan Winters for them.

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  • 6th Combat Defense Squadron -- David Thatcher, Sun, Apr 26 2009, 15:11:32 PDT (h-68-165-179-204-static.lsanca54.covad.net/68.165.179.204)
    Welcome to the new members and the new "lifers". Looks like TSN is getting more than its share of representation. Must be Penley's influence.

    For anyone who was with the 6th Combat Defense Squadron at Walker AFB, Roswell N.M. I was recently contacted by Mike McFadden, who was with the unit, and he is looking for pictures to post on the Walker AFB Museum site. I'm pretty sure there are others in VSPA who were stationed there and might get a kick out of the museum site (just google Walker AFB Museum). If anyone is interested, Mike can be contacted at "m1ke@truemail.co.th" (note that the "i" in mike is a "1").

    David Thatcher L/M #510
    377th SPS '67 - '68

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  • Top Cop to get new job -- Gary Jones, LM-363, Thu, Apr 23 2009, 15:45:32 PDT (cpe-098-025-046-219.sc.res.rr.com/98.25.46.219)
    The Air Force's "Top Cop," Major General (Sel) Mary K. Hertog will be leaving the career field soon to assume her new position as Commander, 2nd Air Force, Keesler AFB, MS.

    She done good!

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  • New Member Introduction! -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Fri, Apr 24 2009, 14:21:15 PDT (97-120-109-68.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.109.68)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Tommy Gannon to membership in the VSPA. Tommy served at Nakhon Phanom in 1970-71, and currently lives in Lousianna. He found out about the VSPA through another SkyCop.

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  • Minnesota to Honor all Vietnam Era Veterans -- Bob Hubbard, Tue, Apr 21 2009, 17:52:25 PDT (nc-71-55-74-35.dhcp.embarqhsd.net/71.55.74.35)
    Minnesota Department of Veterans Affairs
    20 West 12th Street, St. Paul, MN 55155
    Press Release
    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Media Contact:
    March 11, 2009 Anna Lewicki Long
    (651) 757-1536
    Anna.Long@state.mn.us
    Minnesota to Honor all Vietnam Era Veterans
    SAINT PAUL, Minn. – Veterans organizations from around the state and the Minnesota Department of Veterans Affairs are teaming up for what is expected to be the largest Vietnam Veteran event in Minnesota History.
    Thousands of Veterans, families, friends and supporters are expected to gather June 13 on the Minnesota State Capitol Grounds to honor and remember all Veterans who served during the Vietnam era.
    Sponsored by the Minnesota Department of Veterans Affairs, this event is designed to unite the Minnesota community in support, gratitude and celebration of the brave men and women who served during the Vietnam War era.
    Over the decades, the state of Minnesota has taken steps to recognize those who served. A Vietnam Veterans memorial was dedicated in 1997, and in 2008, legislation creating a state Vietnam Veterans Day was signed into law by Governor Pawlenty. In this tradition, the Minnesota Honors Vietnam Era Veterans celebration will continue to unite Veterans and the community.
    “This is a day to celebrate Vietnam era Veterans,” said Clark Dyrud, Commissioner of the Minnesota Department of Veterans Affairs. “We need to recognize those who have served, and remember those who have made the ultimate sacrifice.”
    The event, which is free and open to the public, will feature guest speakers, period music, Vietnam memorabilia, food, Vietnam Veteran reunions and more. A replica of the National Vietnam Memorial will also be on display. For more information about this event, visit www.mnhonorsvietnamvets.org.
    About MDVA
    The Minnesota Department of Veterans Affairs is a cabinet level state agency dedicated to serving Minnesota Veterans and their families. In addition to overseeing the five State Veterans Homes, MDVA helps eligible Veterans and families secure state and federal benefits and provides programs and services relating to higher education, benefits, burial, claims, outreach and Veterans employment. Veterans and their families are encouraged to visit www.mdva.state.mn.us or call 1-(888)-LinkVet for more information about benefits.

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  • Phu Cat - Do you remember? -- Joe Baden, Sat, Apr 25 2009, 11:29:45 PDT (ip98-183-153-167.hr.hr.cox.net/98.183.153.167)
    Attention All that were stationed at Phu Cat AB

    Here are a couple of memories that come from way back. How many of you remember Crystal Blue Persuasion (and not the song)? Also were you there when that Mig landed?
    Think about it guys............ it was a long time ago.

    Joe Baden
    LM
    Phu Cat AB, RVN

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  • Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund -- Barry McLean, LM#53, Fri, Apr 24 2009, 7:03:44 PDT (NoHost/66.161.159.94)
    I just ran across a page where names can be submitted who died as a result of service in Nam due to PTSD, Agent Orange, etc. There is a form you can download. I thought of our former president, Mike Daost, and I know there must be others in our career field to have died due to our service there. I don't know how legitimate it is but the website is http://www.vvmf.org/index.cfm?SectionID=8.
    I would like to know if anyone knows if this is a good site and if it is, I would like to see our members show up in the memorial. The third Monday in April is known as "In Memory Day"
    Barry McLean
    LM#53

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  • 50th Anniversary of AP/SP/SF Badge -- Ken LM 80, Thu, Apr 23 2009, 23:17:44 PDT (ACBF42B6.ipt.aol.com/172.191.66.182)
    Brothers,

    If you are a badge collector or just interested in owning a high quality collectors badge I’d like to share a site with you. Tim Waage has designed a 50th Anniversary badge celebrating 50 years of AP/SP/SF history, you can see this badge at the following site.

    http://web.me.com/tntwaage/ELITE/USAF_Air_Police_Commemorative_50_Year_Badge.html

    More information can be obtained from Tim at; eliteguard85@yahoo.com.

    Ken

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  • Grandkids -- Don Poss, Tue, Apr 21 2009, 22:44:38 PDT (cpe-75-82-158-38.socal.res.rr.com/75.82.158.38)
    Gents: I know we could all brag on our grandkids, but this one is really funny!

    My five year old grandson was watching his mom chop up strawberries and asked what those-things were. She patiently explained, hoping to get him to like strawberries, that they were fresh, and straight from the ground, and best of all--God made them! A little uncertain, he took a nice big bite from one and made the sourest face on the planet--and said, He didn't do a very good job on this one!

    Heh-Heh.

    Don Poss

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  • Looking for Albert J. Cady -- Patrick K. McGinty, Tue, Apr 21 2009, 17:44:53 PDT (CPE-65-30-17-245.kc.res.rr.com/65.30.17.245)
    I am looking for SSGT Albert J. Cady, Nha Trang, 69-70.
    Also anyone else that may remember me while stationed
    at Nha Trang, 69-70. I worked in the office with
    Vernon C. Wiley, and NCOIC Hyatt. Also worked as Desk
    Sgt.. If anyone knows the where abouts of Albert Cady,
    please contact me.

    Beale AF Base, Ca
    Offutt AF Base, Sac Elite Guard
    Nha Trang
    Hurlburt Field, Fl.

    Thanks to all and Welcome Home, Brothers

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  • Tom Mullen's pictures -- Bruce Ross, Phan Rang 65/66, Sun, Apr 12 2009, 18:33:00 PDT (140.sub-75-254-14.myvzw.com/75.254.14.140)
    Tom, I came to PR from Nha Trang late 65 when it was a Gray Eagle compound. May know some of the guys pictured. The photo under you brushing, four guys standing in front of tents,looking at photo, guy on right may be SSgt Maxie,played guitar and was from TN or KT. Guy next him looks familiar, thing I was part of four man team with him on one of the outside peremiter posts, Newell knows this guy if its the same one. Another photo show guy in SP jeep, may be SSgt Kohrn who came from NT about month before me, Newell would know him also. Thanks for the great photo's, I ran convoys also, think we used to come by that swimming hole in the evenings from CR or NT. I left that sand pit in May 66, when the F-4's came in. Bruce LM#174

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  • 3rd, 35th and 633rd Security Police Squadron Awards -- Charles Penley, 377th Security Police Squadron, Thu, Apr 23 2009, 15:21:25 PDT (24-151-238-231.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com/24.151.238.231)
    3rd Security Police Squadron
    35th Security Police Squadron
    633rd Security Police Squadron

    I put up three temporary web pages showing
    the awards for the following:

    3rd Security Police Squadron Awards
    http://www.tsna.org/3rd/index.html

    35th Security Police Squadron Awards
    http://www.tsna.org/35th/index.html

    633rd Security Police Squadron Awards
    http://www.tsna.org/633rd/index.html

    I will take them back down May 1, 2009.

    Charles Penley

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  • pleiku 633rd sps, and or k9 -- John Wetzel, Thu, Apr 23 2009, 12:26:27 PDT (75.97.0.234.res-cmts.snh.ptd.net/75.97.0.234)
    Bros. Does anyone have knowledge of all awards to 633rd. I know and have received the OU w/V but are their others? Would appreciate any and all info!
    In Bro.hood. John

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  • Unit citation -- Gary Walters, Thu, Apr 23 2009, 10:34:39 PDT (NoHost/96.19.197.231)
    does anyone know if the 3rd SPS Bien-Hoa or 35th SPS Phan rang received presidential unit citation and what dates.
    Thanks Gary

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  • Vet Needs help -- Jack Smith 377th SPS 68-69 LM 453, Tue, Apr 21 2009, 9:39:06 PDT (adsl-75-60-190-130.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net/75.60.190.130)
    Guys I have a vet that needs help. William Mike Thomas a skycop lives in Lower Alabama near Maxwell AFB. Mike is having a rough rough time with cancer. He was stationed in Danag 1972. He needs someone in his area who can help him getting paper work done or find the right service officier to help. I am to far away to assist him. Mike had no idea that his conditions could be related to Agent orange. So if any one is near him in Alabama please contact me I will give you his email address. Mike s really down to the point that he feels lost and he needs our help. We Take Care Of Our Own. Jack The Old Cowboy

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  • Prayer request for LEO family -- Howard Yates, Sun, Apr 19 2009, 18:19:27 PDT (198.56.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com/97.100.56.198)
    A retired Orlando Police Lt.(and Air Force Vet.) died while saving a young disabled male from drowning. Lt. Steve Harrelson was a collegue and friend. He will be missed by many. Please keep his family in your prayers.

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  • 377th Security Police Squadron, Presidential Unit Citation -- Charles Penley, 377th Security Police Squadron, Wed, Apr 22 2009, 15:38:35 PDT (24-151-238-231.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com/24.151.238.231)
    I received another email today inquiring about the 377th Security Police Squadron receiving a Presidential Unit Citation.

    The 377th SPS did receive one for the period 17 Jul 1967 - 1 Jul 1969.

    I have posted a copy of those orders at URL:
    http://www.tsna.org/PUC/index.html

    If you are interested in having a copy of it for your records, you can print it out and add it to your filing system.

    Charles Penley

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  • Mike Thomas update -- Jack Smith 377th SPS 68-69 LM 453, Wed, Apr 22 2009, 8:06:19 PDT (adsl-75-60-190-130.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net/75.60.190.130)
    First I want to thank all of you who stepped forward and supplied information for Mike. I do not have to name everyone. You know what wonderful guys you are. Just proves "We Take Care Of Our Own"
    I talked with Mike this morning. He used the information he received yesterday afternoon. He made contact with his county Veteran's affairs officer. He started paperwork for Mike right away. Mike has an appointment next week with the county officer. Mike is feeling better today. He now knows that help is just around the corner for him. His mind is at ease now. He said its because his brothers are there for him. Thank all of you so much and may God Bless you all. Jack the Old Cowboy

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  • Get Togetehr in Gettysburg -- Den Cook, Wed, Apr 22 2009, 5:42:26 PDT (66.216.134.218.static.dejazzd.com/66.216.134.218)
    We have about 10 members who said they would show up. A member who lives in Gettysburg will give a personal guide tour of the battle field. I have a block of rooms saved at the Eisenhower Hotel, more info to follow. If you know of anyone in the northeast who would be interested, please pass this along to them..

    I'm planning for June 20 and 21 This location is well situated for PA, MD. WV, VA, NJ, DE and DC. Gettysburg is accessable via Interstates 76, 83, 81 and 70.

    This will be very informal opportunity to get together and share some war stories. If you are interested in attending please contact me at my yahoo email "cookrat"

    Den Cook

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  • Schedule of Events:Vietnam Era Day -- Bob Hubbard, Tue, Apr 21 2009, 18:04:37 PDT (nc-71-55-74-35.dhcp.embarqhsd.net/71.55.74.35)
    Schedule of Events:Vietnam Era Day
    Minnesota Honors Vietnam Era Veterans
    Saturday, June 13, 2009
    Minnesota State Capitol Grounds
    Join the Minnesota Department of Veterans Affairs and the Minnesota Veterans community on June 13, 2009 at the State Capitol grounds in St. Paul, Minn. as Minnesota Honors Vietnam Era Veterans, a free community event to celebrate, emember and honor all Veterans who served during the Vietnam era.
    r
    Schedule of Events:
    •
    9 a.m. Gold Star Family Prayer Service – Central Presbyterian Church (registration suggested)
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    9:30 a.m. Minnesota Medal of Honor recipients plaque dedication ceremony
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    10:30 a.m. Remembrance Ceremony
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    11 a.m. Roll Call of Minnesota KIA/MIA
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    2 p.m. Flyover and Minnesota Honors Vietnam Era Veterans Program
    Additional Attractions:
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    The Vietnam Traveling Memorial Wall® ‐ June 11 ‐ 15
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    Veterans reunion opportunities
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    Vietnam reenactors displaying era equipment, vehicles and aircraft
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    Minnesota Historical Society
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    Veterans resource tent
    •
    Emergency Foodshelf Network food drive
    •
    Vintage car show
    •
    Parade of colors
    •
    Military blood drive
    •
    Live entertainment
    ree Parking and shuttle service to the celebration site will be located at the Minnesota State air Grounds. Buses should contact the event staff for parking information at (651)296‐2562.
    F
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    For more information visit www.mnhonorsvietnamvets.org or call (651)296‐2562.

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  • New Member Introduction -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Sun, Apr 19 2009, 16:48:00 PDT (97-120-192-130.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.192.130)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming "J" Dye to membership in the VSPA. He served at Bien Hoa and Pleiku in 1965-66, and currently lives in Colorado. J says he heard about VSPA from another SP.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • Get together in Gettysburg -- Den Cook, Sun, Apr 19 2009, 7:07:42 PDT (ca208-ch03-bl09.il-chicago0.sa.earthlink.net/207.69.137.42)
    I'm working on a get together for vspa members and any SP AP veterans who wish to attend. I'm planning for June 20 and 21 and the tentative meeting place is Gettysburg PA.

    This location is well situated for PA, MD. WV, VA, NJ and DC. Gettysburg is accessable via Interstates 76, 83, 81 and 70.

    This will be very informal opportunity to get together and share some war stories.

    If you are interested in attending please contact me at my yahoo email "cookrat"

    More information to follow.

    Den Cook

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  • Catch The Wind, print requests -- Don Poss, Sun, Apr 19 2009, 11:58:37 PDT (cpe-75-82-158-38.socal.res.rr.com/75.82.158.38)
    Gents & Ladies:

    I have received hundreds of personal emails from members and families, and Vietnam Veterans from all services, concerning my recent story, "Catch The Wind." It is gratifying to know that what I feel in my heart is also felt by many, when thinking of the war and the cost of that war then and now. In a way, I think that is one reason our association shares an unbreakable bond of brotherhood, because we are all standing together in support of one another. That is a gift worth giving and receiving, and treasuring for a lifetime...which began decades ago in Vietnam, and Thailand, and will endure to the last man standing.

    Because of the many requests for copies of "Catch The Wind" I have added a PDF download link at the story. If you want, you can copy, paste, and print from this url:

    http://www.vspa.com/aspprotect/pdf/Catch-The-Wind-Don-Poss.pdf

    Thank you all for such touching comments.
    Don Poss

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  • Another VSPA Brother goes for Life Membership! -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Mon, Apr 20 2009, 17:17:32 PDT (97-115-117-80.ptld.qwest.net/97.115.117.80)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in congratulating Ed Mitchell on becoming VSPA Life Member #554. Ed served at Phan Rang, Bien Hoa and Tan Son Nhut in 1968. He currently lives in Florida and has been a VSPA member for ELEVEN YEARS!

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • New Member Introduction! -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Mon, Apr 20 2009, 18:09:07 PDT (97-115-117-80.ptld.qwest.net/97.115.117.80)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Jim Coggins to membership in the VSPA. He served as a dog handler at Takhli after it closed and then opened back up again, in 1972-73. He currently lives in Colorado, and found out about VSPA through our stunning website.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • Top Cop to Get 2nd Star -- Gary Jones, LM-363, Fri, Apr 17 2009, 12:51:14 PDT (cpe-098-025-046-219.sc.res.rr.com/98.25.46.219)
    The President has sent to the Senate for confirmation, the nomination of Brigadier General Mary Kay Hertog, for promotion to Major General in the U.S. Air Force.

    Many of you got the opportunity to meet General Hertog when she was our Guest Speaker at our 2007 Reunion Banquet in Washington. General Hertog will become the first career cop to ever be promoted to the 2-star rank. No one has ever been more deserving.

    General Hertog is the Daughter of VSPA Life Member #450, Col (Ret) Donald K. Reeves, who Commanded the 35th SPS at Phan Rang.

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  • VSPA Life Member #553! -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Sun, Apr 19 2009, 15:46:05 PDT (97-120-192-130.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.192.130)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming our newest Life Member to membership in the VSPA. Mike Cowder served as Kennel Master at Bien Hoa in 1968-69, and currently lives in Virginia. He found out about VSPA through our incredibly rich and informative website.

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  • Back in Bay City -- Van and Joyce Digby, Mon, Apr 20 2009, 14:18:22 PDT (adsl-75-51-124-86.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net/75.51.124.86)
    It was a long trip home, we had a great time at Renfro Valley show on Saturday night. We may make it a stop next year. Had some rain Sunday morning on the drive to Ohio then Bay City, Michigan. It will take a few days to get all the bags, boxes put away then down to the business. Hope to see all of you at the reunion in October.

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  • Seek info Phan Rang Incident -- Mike Dunne (Pat Dunne's brother), Sat, Apr 18 2009, 18:21:37 PDT (pool-71-189-92-110.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.189.92.110)
    Seeking assistance on claim being submitted by a James D. Linfors - info:

    Incident involving Sgt James D. Lindfors and Sgt William K. Denslow at Phan Rang in 1967 - 485th GEEIA Squadron, Air Force Logistics Command.

    Unk Airman attacked Sgt. Denslow with a straight razor in a bar off base. Unk Airman was apprehended and court-martialed.

    Possible witnesses:
    Sgt Jerry Gilmore, SSgt Bill Hall, TSgt Thomas Shaw and TSgt Charlie Towne.

    Thanks,
    -=MD=-

    GEEIA = Ground Electronics Engineering Installation Agency

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  • Brothers indeed -- Howard Yates, Thu, Apr 16 2009, 18:59:05 PDT (198.56.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com/97.100.56.198)
    Today, when I arrived home, I found a rather large package waiting for me. My wife watched as I opened it with great anticipation. Removing the wrappings revealed the most beautiful print I have ever seen. The title of the print was “The Line of Duty”. I was moved to tears to think a VSPA brother would present me with such a treasure. I am intentionally not mentioning his name here, for I know he wanted it to be just between two Vietnam Brothers. Thank you my Brother…..From the bottom of my heart, Thank You.

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  • Reunion-Roanoke,Virginia -- Ed Narwid, Fri, Apr 17 2009, 12:37:53 PDT (67-72-98-45.propel.com/67.72.98.45)
    We still have rooms available for our First Mini Reunion here in the Roanoke,Virginia area.
    Dates-Arrival friday August 14,2009
    Depart Sunday August 16,2009 (You can stay longer if you wish to extend your time here ).

    Place- Comfort Inn-
    5070 Valley View Blvd
    Roanoke,Va 20412

    Reservations-1-888-217-5551 or 1-540-527-2020

    Special Room Rate-$84.00 per night plus tax.

    Rooms have 2 double beds- also a limited number of rooms with a King size bed.

    Deluxe Hot and cold continental breakfast (I have a copy of the menu and it looks great).

    Free shuttle service from the Roanoke Airport to the Hotel.

    Outdoor swimming pool.

    You must call and reserve your own rooms before the cut off date of July 14,2009.

    If we need more rooms I can get more for us.

    When making your reservation make sure you mention the VSPA so you will get the discount rate and have a room within the block of rooms we have reserved.

    Also notify me either by e-mail direct to me at w4oafednar@yahoo.com (put VSPA in Subject line) or call me at 1-540-297-4644. This way I will know when we run out of rooms and I can get some more if needed.

    Friday evening we will have a welcome get together in the Hospitality meeting room. Saturday we have a day of planned activities which will include a tour of the National DDay Memorial complex in Bedford, Va also a nice lunch on the Blue Ridge Parkway.
    Saturday night dinner (Informal attire) at a local Restaurant and we should have a few guest speakers.
    Sunday after breakfast is a whatever day as there are many things to see and do in the Roanoke area. We can plan that at the Saturday night dinner.
    We hope many of you will decide to attend this first
    reunion as we hope to have one each year with different things planned as there are alot of excellent things to do and see in this area.

    Looking forward to seeing and meeting many of you here in August.

    Ed Narwid

    reunion Comittee-Sam Lewis,Ed Narwid,Jerry Walker and our wives.

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  • Badge on E-Bay -- David Thatcher, Wed, Apr 15 2009, 16:20:25 PDT (h-68-165-179-204-static.lsanca54.covad.net/68.165.179.204)
    Hi Guys . . . long time no post. Belated Happy Easter to all. Is someone bidding against me on the badge on e-bay? I just bid $75.00 and it immediately went up to $76.00. I don't want to bid against a brother. I'll retract my bid if somebody's after it. It was listed 1/2 hour ago for $22.50 and immediately jumped up. Looks to be in pretty good shape.

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  • Thunder Over Louisville Streaming Live -- Bruce Thompson, Sat, Apr 18 2009, 14:35:16 PDT (h200.232.28.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/71.28.232.200)
    Thunder Over Louisville is streaming Live One of the largest air fire works shows in the nation is streming live from this site: http://www.whas11.com/thunder/
    Just about every aircraft in air force inventory, also from navy and marine corps, coast guard and private individuals. F4c, B52, B1B, F22 Raptor and more.

    Bruce Thompson
    Nha Trang 68-69

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  • "Living On the Edge" and "Catch the Wind", Too! -- Pat Dunne, Sat, Apr 18 2009, 7:44:54 PDT (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
    Got to hear "Living on the Edge" by Aerosmith twice yesterday. First when I viewed the USAF tribute that Chief Gary recommended. It was part of the sound track to the slide show tribute and very effective. Later, as I cruised on my day job, the I got a booster dose as the Aerosmith ode came up on the classic rock station. The song has new meaning as it will trigger the images from the tribute. I been sublimanitized (SACisized).
    Same same effect as when I view the 822nd CD I got in '05.
    Gary, I can't help to imagine what Suth woulda done with this media at his disposal. Ya gotta wonder?
    Goes to show the power of music to enhance life experiences. A song will take you back to where you were then, or fix this moment to memory. Awesome!
    As in Don's reference to Dylan's "Catch the Wind" in his awesome speculative reflection. I got to catch up with his narrative yesterday as well. Very well done.
    Like the man said, I read the book and it told more about the author, than the subject.
    And so, it will help in my counseling, cause I will just show it to my counselor, and say "What he said.."
    Thanks Don, for articulating the feelings in such a way, for maximum effect. Hawk

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  • New Member Introduction -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Tue, Apr 14 2009, 18:55:25 PDT (97-115-69-113.ptld.qwest.net/97.115.69.113)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Wayne Rakestraw to membership in the VSPA. Wayne served at Binh Thuy in 1968-69 and currently lives in "Bama." He says he found the VSPA with the help of another SP -- LET ME GUESS, would that be Lew Goldberg? I say yes ...

    Thanks Lew, and Welcome Home Wayne!

    Phil

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  • Made me think of you -- Janet Matthews-Wise, Wed, Apr 15 2009, 17:51:19 PDT (24-196-19-136.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com/24.196.19.136)
    I heard this song on the way to work yesterday. I had never heard of Dean Brody. This is an awesome song that made me think of my VSPA Brothers.

    That's what Brothers are for...

    check out the youtube link

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3GWKAsEP4A&feature=related

    HUGS!

    Your Sparkplug

    Janet Matthews-Wise
    Daughter of VSPA LM # 127
    Sisterhood VP
    Friend of K9

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  • Melbourne Reunion -- Pat Dunne/Hawk, Thu, Apr 16 2009, 16:14:41 PDT (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
    Hawk Here! I need a head count of anybody coming down or over to the Veteran's Reunion in Melbourne next week. Need to know if I need to pick up one or two packages of weinies. Sound Off!

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  • Trip back home -- Van and Joyce Digby, Wed, Apr 15 2009, 18:10:42 PDT (fl-67-76-12-199.dyn.embarqhsd.net/67.76.12.199)
    Well, it is that time of the year again when Joyce and I will return to Michigan for the late spring, summer and fall. We will leave the 70's and 80's for 40's maybe 50's. It will be great to see the kids and grandkids. Golf starts the last Tues. in April.

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  • — Leo Thorsness is author of Surviving Hell: A POW's Journey, from which this chapter is excerpted. -- Bob Hubbard, Mon, Apr 13 2009, 13:49:35 PDT (nc-76-5-184-170.dhcp.embarqhsd.net/76.5.184.170)
    ‘Our Father’
    Praying like you have never prayed before.

    By Leo Thorsness

    Sunday morning at the Hanoi Hilton was church time. To gather our “congregation,” the Senior Ranking Officer (SRO) tapped “cc,” quietly on his wall. Each cell in turn tapped “cc,” and soon all have been alerted to Church Call. The service was a prayer and a reciting of Bible verses. If I was lucky, I was in a cell with one or two other POWs, and we could pool our knowledge of the Bible.

    A failed rescue attempt led to the most memorable of our church experiences. It happened on November 20, 1970, when U.S. Special Forces staged a mission to rescue the POWs believed to be at Son Tay, one of the small prisons the North Vietnamese maintained outside Hanoi. The raid was brilliantly planned and executed perfectly. Our men landed at the prison in helicopters and came home without the loss of a single American. There was only one problem: All the POWs had been moved out of Son Tay about four months before the rescue effort so none of us went back with our rescuers. The mission still turned out to be a huge success for us, however.

    Realizing that such rescue attempts could happen again, the North Vietnamese brought us in from outlying prison camps into the main Hoa Lo prison in Hanoi: the Hanoi Hilton. Within hours of the raid, we were moved into large cells — 43 of us in my cell. It was the greatest day of our prison life. For the first time, we were meeting POWs whose names we had memorized years earlier. Many of us had formed intense friendships through the tap code with men we’d never seen. As we met that night, “So this is what you look like” was heard over and over throughout the cell.

    We compared our treatment, and it seemed important to each of us to tell one another of our torture experiences. I’ve never seen more empathy in anyone’s eyes than when telling a fellow POW about being tortured. We each needed to tell our torture story — once. We never told them again to the same POW.

    The handshakes, back slapping, and bear hugs went on and on. Some of us had been tortured for the protection or benefit of a “tap-code buddy.” Now there was love and respect to be repaid. No one slept that first night; too much joy, excitement, and talk. The next morning, we needed to determine the SRO. The highest rank in our cell was O-4, which is a major. (“O” stands for officer, so O-1 is second lieutenant or ensign, O-2 first lieutenant, O-3 captain, O-4 major, O-5 lieutenant colonel, O-6 colonel, O-7 brigadier general, and on up to O-10 for a four-star general.) We put all the O-4s together and then compared the date when the rank was attained and arrived at a hierarchy. We did the same with the O-3s, the O-2s, and the O-1s. When we were done, all 43 of us knew exactly where we stood in the command structure.

    Our SRO turned out to be Ned Shuman — a really good Naval aviator. The first Sunday in the large cell, someone said, “Let’s have church service.” Good idea, we all agreed. One POW volunteered to lead the service, and we started gathering in the other end of the long rectangular cell from the cell door. No sooner had we gathered than an English-speaking Vietnamese officer who worked as an interrogator burst into the cell with a dozen armed guards. Ned Shuman went to the officer and said there wouldn’t be a problem; we were just going to have a short church service.

    The response was unyielding: We were not allowed to gather into groups larger than three persons and we absolutely could not have a church service.

    During the next few days we all grumbled that we should not have backed down in our intention to have a church service and ought to do it the coming Sunday. Toward the end of the week, Ned stepped forward and said, “Are we really committed to having church Sunday?”

    There was a murmuring of assent throughout the cell. Ned said, “No, I want to know person by person if you are really committed to holding church.”

    We all knew the implications of our answer: If we went ahead with the plan, some would pay the price — starting with Ned himself because he was the SRO. He went around the cell pointing to each of us individually. “Leo, are you committed?” “Yes.” Ned then moved to Jim and asked the same question. “Yes,” Jim responded. And so on until he had asked each of us by name.


    When the 42nd man said yes, it was unanimous. We had 100-percent commitment to hold church next Sunday. At that instant, Ned knew he would end up in the torture cells at Heartbreak. It was different from the previous Sunday. We now had a goal, and we were committed. We only needed to develop a plan.

    Sunday morning came, and we knew they would be watching us again. Once more, we gathered in the far end of the cell. As soon as we moved together, the interrogator and guards burst through the door. Ned stepped forward and said there wouldn’t be a problem: We were just going to hold a quiet ten-minute church service and then we would spread back out in the cell. As expected, they grabbed Ned and hauled him off to Heartbreak for torture.

    Our plan unfolded. The second ranking man, the new SRO, stood, walked to the center of the cell and in a clear firm voice said, “Gentlemen,” our signal to stand, “the Lord’s Prayer.” We got perhaps halfway through the prayer, when the guards grabbed the SRO and hauled him out the door toward Heartbreak.

    As planned, the number three SRO stood, walked to the center of the cell, and said, “Gentlemen, the Lord’s Prayer.” We had gotten about to “Thy Kingdom come” before the guards grabbed him. Immediately, the number four SRO stood: “Gentlemen, the Lord’s Prayer.”

    I have never heard five or six words of the Lord’s Prayer — as far as we got before they seized him — recited so loudly, or so reverently. The interrogator was shouting, “Stop, stop,” but we drowned him out. The guards were now hitting POWs with gun butts and the cell was in chaos.

    The number five ranking officer was way back in the corner and took his time moving toward the center of the cell. (I was number seven, and not particularly anxious for him to hurry.) But just before he got to the center of the area, the cell became pin-drop quiet.

    In Vietnamese, the interrogator spat out something to the guards, they grabbed number five SRO and they all left, locking the cell door behind them. The number six SRO began: “Gentlemen, the Lord’s Prayer.” This time we finished it.

    Five courageous officers were tortured, but I think they believed it was worth it. From that Sunday on until we came home, we held a church service. We won. They lost. Forty-two men in prison pajamas followed Ned’s lead. I know I will never see a better example of pure raw leadership or ever pray with a better sense of the meaning of the words.

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  • AF Top Cop Featured -- Gary Jones, LM-363, Fri, Apr 10 2009, 6:48:26 PDT (cpe-098-025-046-219.sc.res.rr.com/98.25.46.219)
    Brigadier General Mary Kay Hertog, the Air Force's Top Cop is featured in an article this month to celebrate Women's History Month. General Hertog is a close personal friend and I will be going to San Antonio at the end of the month to attend her induction into "The Order of the Sword."

    Some of you might have worked for General Hertog's father, Colonel (Ret) Don Reeves, who was also a Cop and Commanded the 35th SPS at Phan Rang. Colonel Reeves is a VSPA Life Member. The last two paragraphs of the article sum up why General Hertog has been so successful.

    Cut and paste this URL in your web browser to read the article: http://tinyurl.com/cfhzde

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  • Tea Parties -- Howard Yates, Wed, Apr 15 2009, 17:17:57 PDT (198.56.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com/97.100.56.198)
    Has anyone attended a "Tea Party" in their city? My wife and I attended one today. What a great turn out we had. I hope our government hears our plea and acts according.

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  • AF Tribute -- Gary Jones, LM-363, Wed, Apr 15 2009, 18:24:44 PDT (cpe-098-025-046-219.sc.res.rr.com/98.25.46.219)
    There is a great video tribute to the Air Force at:

    http://www.media-magik.com/usaf.html

    Be careful at the end. I think someone pops a tear gas canister becaise I got a little misty-eyed.

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  • Steak Dinner -- Bill Chapman, Fri, Apr 10 2009, 13:34:46 PDT (NoHost/147.105.250.10)
    All Memders of VSPA who are attending the Vietnam Veterans Reunion in Melbourne Florida on April 23-25 are invited to a Steak Dinner with Karaoke at Campsite B75. The price is a $10.00 donation, this used to be put on by VVA Chapter 831, Alot of SP's used to show up so our new club, USA Rver RAts is starting this fun night up again so pleae plan on attending.
    In Brotherhood,
    Bill Chapman
    NKP 1970

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  • Pirates -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Sun, Apr 12 2009, 14:38:04 PDT (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
    Three cheers for the Navy for rescuing the American captain from the Pirates.

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  • VSPA SCHOLARSHIP -- Jim (BUDDHA) LEBOWITZ, Wed, Apr 15 2009, 8:48:21 PDT (ppp-47.255.lw.fea.net/216.115.255.47)
    Anyone interested in obtaining information pertaining to the J.J. Chestnut Memorial Scholarship please contact me via e-mail at jlz9107@earthlink.net or give me a call at 949-855-8901 and I will send you the application via regular mail.

    For 2009 I have had about 15 inquiries and only one complete package returned. I will need the complete package by 1 Oct 09.

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  • Request for help -- Jimmy Shows, Mon, Apr 13 2009, 8:24:12 PDT (NoHost/68.153.113.1)
    Need help- Please !!
    I have a restored M151C jeep with the 106 Recoiless rifle. The serial number of the jeep was issued to the Air Force. Does any one have any knowledge of these jeeps and if so how was it colored/marked- Thanks, Vietnam Vet-2 tours

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  • Ron Eberhard's Post Saturday TV -- Jack Smith 377th SPS 68-69 LM 453, Sat, Apr 11 2009, 8:41:51 PDT (adsl-75-60-190-130.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net/75.60.190.130)
    Ron: I thought you might enjoy this poem I wrote. I will be 62 this year. We did not get a TV till 1958. My uncle Bud had one and my cousins and I would be in front of it every Saturday morning and then play Cowboys and Indians the rest of the day. You are right the Kids today do not know what its like to be without all the things that seem to make life easier. My father would have died if he had to pay $150.00 for pair of tennis shoes for my brother and I. Jack the Old Cowboy Poet

    Saturday Mornings

    Saturday morning riding the trail
    With Trigger, Roy, Buttermilk and Dale

    Across the wide prairies so green
    With Ringeye, Frog, Champion and Gene

    Trotted my horse around a bend
    With Blackjack, Rocky, Midnight and Ken

    Always watching for outlaw dangers
    With Scout, Tonto, Silver and the Lone Ranger

    Drawing those cap guns in practice
    With Monte, Partner, Sunset and Cactus

    Just an old stick was my pony
    With Wild Bill, Sonny, Tom Mix and Tony

    Oh the cowboy things I did
    With Loco, Pancho, Diablo and the Cisco Kid

    Chasing the bad guys who stole all the cash
    With Durango, Raider, Black Diamond and Lash

    I couldn't hear Mom yell, not so loud
    With Hoppy, Topper, Eddie Dean and White Cloud

    A cowboy I was and a cowboy will I always be
    As I remember that Saturday morning TV
    Edwin J. Smith
    The Old Cowboy Poet

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  • Reunion info for those flying into Phoenix -- Steve Ray, Tue, Apr 14 2009, 7:48:01 PDT (proxy3c.external.lmco.com/192.91.173.36)
    I was at the Phoenix airport a few months ago and found the Phoenix Military & Veterans Hospitality Room. It is located in Terminal 2, mezzanie level and is open to both active duty and veterans. The staff was very friendly and I told them I would pass it on as some of the VSPA reunion attendees may be coming thru in October. My hat is off to the community for providing this hospitality room.

    Steve Ray

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  • Easter -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Sun, Apr 12 2009, 5:09:31 PDT (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
    He has risen !!!

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  • VIETNAM MEMORIALL WALL -- George E. Graham LM 297, Mon, Apr 13 2009, 11:22:17 PDT (dpc691914035.direcpc.com/69.19.14.35)
    Ceremony recognizes vets not eligible for Vietnam Wall

    WASHINGTON (AFRNS) -- One-hundred twenty-three American heroes from the Vietnam War era will be honored posthumously this month during the annual In Memory Day ceremony, according to Jan C. Scruggs, founder and president of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund.

    In Memory Day was created to pay tribute to those who died prematurely from noncombat injuries and emotional suffering caused directly by the Vietnam War, but who are not eligible to have their names inscribed on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.

    A list of the honorees and their hometowns is available at www.vvmf.org/index.cfm?SectionID=774.

    The 11th annual In Memory Day ceremony begins at 10 a.m. April 20 at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial here. Nearly 1,000 family members, friends and fellow veterans are expected to visit the nation's capital to participate in this year's event.

    "In Memory Day allows The Wall to do what it does best: provide a healing environment for family members and friends," Mr. Scruggs said. "It also allows all of us to pay tribute to these brave Americans who served and sacrificed for their country."

    The Vietnam Veterans Memorial bears the names of 58,260 men and women who died while serving in the U.S. armed forces in the Vietnam War.

    "The Department of Defense developed specific parameters that allow only the names of servicemembers who died of wounds suffered in combat zones to be added to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial," Mr. Scruggs said. "The In Memory program recognizes those men and women who have died prematurely as a result of the Vietnam War, but who do not meet the criteria. Many of their deaths are a result of Agent Orange exposure and emotional wounds that never healed."

    During the ceremony, family members will read aloud their loved ones' names in chronological order by date of death. Following the ceremony, participants will lay tributes at the base of The Wall corresponding to the honorees' dates of service in Vietnam. With the addition of this year's honorees, more than 1,800 people have been honored in the In Memory Honor Roll.

    Established in 1979, the nonprofit Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund was authorized by Congress to build the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. Since then, the memorial fund has evolved into an international nongovernmental organization dedicated to preserving the legacy of The Wall, promoting healing and educating about the impact of the Vietnam War.

    Its initiatives include educational programs, a traveling Wall replica that honors veterans and a humanitarian and land mine-removal program in Vietnam. The fund also is building The Education Center at The Wall, an underground educational facility near the memorial. (Courtesy of American Forces Press Service)

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  • free fire zone -- Jack Smith 377th SPS 68-69 LM 453, Sun, Apr 12 2009, 8:01:23 PDT (adsl-75-60-190-130.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net/75.60.190.130)
    Everyone should read Charle's post on the Free Fire Zone. This memeber is on top of the subject and knows what he is talking about. Jack

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  • Short Visit -- Ed Cottrell, LM222 (So. Texas), Sat, Apr 11 2009, 23:46:46 PDT (39.houston-03rh15rt.tx.dial-access.att.net/12.73.97.39)
    Last Sunday, 04/05, I drove a vet friend to SAN ANTONIO, for an appointment at AUDIE MURPHY VA HOSPITAL. Thru emails and a phone call, I connected with another vet. We had a short and pleasurable visit with CHUCK OLDS, another VSPA member. After our visit, I felt as if we had known each other for years.
    I encourage everyone, when traveling or around your home area, to check for other members. A cup of coffee and a few minutes of your time, is a reward.
    Ed

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  • 60 Minutes -- Bill Hartley (KY), Sun, Apr 12 2009, 18:01:29 PDT (h54.183.29.71.static.ip.windstream.net/71.29.183.54)
    Just watched a 60 Minutes episode that discussed the latest efforts by the VA to develope a high tech artifical limb. They stated that the VA had spent a whopping 103 MILLION dollars on this project. I was awed by this until I realized that is less than ONE F-18 cost. Maybe we need to rethink our priorities.

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  • Moving Wall -- Don Graham, Wed, Apr 08 2009, 18:02:18 PDT (accelerate.att.net/67.72.98.91)
    The Moving Wall will be in Allentown, PA May 21st through the 25th. It will be set up at the Mayfair site just off Hamilton Blvd. and not far from I 78. Anyone interested in visiting the Moving Wall or needing more info should email me.... Don

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  • Remember? -- Ron Eberhart LM / 047 (Old Times), Sat, Apr 11 2009, 8:02:10 PDT (adsl-99-21-183-200.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net/99.21.183.200)
    Guys--------A buddy of mine and I were talking with some 20-somethings about life when we were kids. I mentioned we had no TV at our house (I'm 62). They were stunned. They didn't think there was anyone still alive who had no TV in their home.
    I told them that eventually my neighbor's dad bought a little black and white. We ran over to his house every Saturday to watch cartoons and westerns (Lone Ranger, Cisco Kid, Wild Bill Hickock , Captain Midnight, Sky King, Roy Rogers, & Buster Brown show with Andy Devine and Froggy the Gremlin).
    They sat looking at us as though we were fragile antiques. Then my buddy went even further. He came from a large Catholic family and lived on the edge of town. He said when he was a kid they had no indoor plumbing. This even surprised me 'cause I always had indoor plumbing.
    We didn't have all the 'things' they have today but we sure were happy. Things were slow-paced. On summer vacation or weekends we would get the guys together and play a nice game of 'Indian' ball. That game is long since gone and forgotten. We stayed out and played all day and evening. We knew to come in when the street-lights went on.
    Things are too hectic today. I pity these kids who must live their lives and raise kids in this vulgar culture.
    Both must work full-time jobs to fend off the bill collector and get on the treadmill while the government helps themselves to 50% of their hard-earned money.
    In many ways I wish we could slow it down again. It was the golden age of life in America.

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  • Help from VA? -- Ron Arthur LM 107, Sun, Mar 01 2009, 12:09:37 PST (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
    I was wondering if any of you brothers from the war know who I would contact within the VA to get help in saving my farm from foreclosure? I have lived on this farm for over 40 years and hosted three reunions for the guys I served with. I love this place but got myself in a pickle. I have a good income from Social Security and 100% from PTSD. But was offered a deal of a lifetime.The company I delt with (and I will not name, but has been in the news a bunch lately) offered to pay off all my bills and even give me some extra. I thought it was an outstanding offer and took it. This small farm was left to me when both of my parents passed on. I went into a limbo for three years following Mom's passing and woke up this past June. I weighed 210 pounds and started working my behind off on this farm. Hard work too alone I might add. This past Christmas at my old lady friends house I weighed in at 150 pounds and know I have lost even more.I wished the financial institution that gave me this good deal would use survalance photos just to see how much work I have done to this farm. I know I made the deal and am not trying in anyway of getting out of it. I took the deal but I also did home improvements to it to upgrade it and make it livable. I am so proud of having a home of my own and if it is possible to find out from anyone out there just who I can make contact with (within the VA) and help me save it. My father told me taking my own life was wrong and God would frown on it. But, I might add there have been many times I have picked up my Glock and thought that would be the easy way out.I hate to think of myself setting in a homeless shelter and thinking there was something I could do. Can you help me, please?

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  • Son of an earlier AP 1st shirt -- Jim Young, Fri, Apr 10 2009, 12:49:53 PDT (cpe-75-82-158-38.socal.res.rr.com/75.82.158.38)
    I just started looking for the name of a former PJ who I think served as the SP 1st Sgt at Lowry AFB around 81 or 82. I think Mike Bush (and perhaps Steve Ray, if they were stationed at Lowry much later) would have found much more in common with (from posts back around 1997, I think) I'm still amazed at what the 377th guys were able to do with so little experience (from my time there, as a weather equipment repairman) during Tet '68. With some help from a Mickey Peruzzi (SP?) a QRT leader that first night at TSN, we came up with some information to share with Keith William Nolan (so recently deceased). Everyone had different views of the action, but Keith captured much of the personal stories, adding reality as the individuals saw it, without making the heroes seem too perfect. The imperfections were recognized but treated more gently and completely than I think I've seen from any other authors. Stephen Ambrose may be the model but I suspect his stories are perhaps less accurate (allowed to simmer over decades) than some cold hearted historians would have us believe. I think both of them told stories that revealed more of the common soldiers' personal contributions, foibles, and the effects on them. WWII's Ernie Pyle was always another hero in my parent's house for his stories of everyday GIs, my interest enhanced later by serving with his nephew.

    My immediate areas of interest that you might be able to help with are:

    The name of the Lowry SP SMSgt who was a former Vietnam PJ. Super attitude in maintaining order if not strict play by rules and an incredible save of a drunk airman (passed out, heart and breathing stopped) all without the General visiting our NCO Academy Grad meeting catching on to what had transpired a few minutes before (at least he didn't let on that he knew anything about it).

    Any info on Duane Hackney touring with a team, perhaps including Viktor Belenko that gave classified briefings at Lowry or Westover (among other places). I recall talking to a visiting, very much decorated, PJ at one or both places but my mild propoganosia (didn't recognize my own brother once) keeps me from positively saying it was Hackney.

    Son of an earlier AP 1st shirt,

    Jim Young

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  • VSPA Guardmount Spring Edition 2009 posted -- Don Poss, Fri, Apr 10 2009, 19:37:08 PDT (cpe-75-82-158-38.socal.res.rr.com/75.82.158.38)
    Gents & Ladies:

    VSPA Guardmount Spring Edition 2009 is now posted in full color at http://www.vspa.com/aspprotect/guardmount/pdf/gm-2009-spring.pdf

    Check it out!

    Don Poss,
    VSPA Webmaster

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  • Easter wishes -- Jack Smith 377th SPS 68-69 LM 453, Fri, Apr 10 2009, 16:46:33 PDT (adsl-75-60-190-130.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net/75.60.190.130)
    May all of you have a safe and joyful Easter weekend. I will say a prayer for all that might be traveling during this time and all staying at home. Prayers help. I know because of all that were sent my way not only helped with my cancer. It also helped me by knowing that so many people I have never met were pulling for me. Thank all of you and may God Bless and keep you and yours in his grace. Jack The Old Cowboy Poet

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  • A SPECIAL THANKS -- Don Hamilton, LM #201 (a humbling expereince), Mon, Apr 06 2009, 15:32:21 PDT (ip68-231-100-32.ph.ph.cox.net/68.231.100.32)
    Brothers-

    I have been able to return Home from my lengthly stay in the Hospital. It seemed for some time that the longer I was in their care, the sicker I was becoming. Heart, Lungs, Kidneys were falling just like dominios. There was a point when we said what else can go wrong.

    There was an angel I married named Missy and as a wife of nearly 41 years is prone to do, she called in the reinforcements. She called Newell and the flood was on with well wishes, prayers and e-mails. Many of those that I did not know; well that could have been the drugs; responded. I am slowely recovering because of 6 great Doctors and hundreds of prayes and thoughts from the greatest group; You; The Members of the VSPA!

    I have more holes poked in me, drains, surgery, bruses and there are places that hurt that I didn't know I had. I am wounded but on light duty for some weeks. Still looking forward to the Reunion in October.

    Thanks you each and all for your prayers; it made the difference.

    Don Hamilton
    LM #201

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  • Opening Day -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Tue, Apr 07 2009, 13:24:08 PDT (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
    Rained out yesterday, the Boston Red Sox start their drive to another championship year today.

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  • Easter Poem -- Howard Yates, Fri, Apr 10 2009, 7:27:34 PDT (198.56.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com/97.100.56.198)
    If you'd like to read my Easter Poem, "The Centurian" just cut and paste. I thought it was too long to post here.

    http://poetrypoem.com/cgi-bin/index.pl?poemnumber=757430&sitename=kiltedcop&password=&poemoffset=0&displaypoem=t&item=poetry

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  • Kansas City Enlistment Center -- Glen H.. Myers, Fri, Apr 10 2009, 6:13:03 PDT (host671420031130.direcway.com/67.142.130.31)
    John,

    Good to hear from you again. That was many years ago, huh? To be 18 again... Drop me a photo when you get a chance and I'll do the same.

    Glen

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  • Forbes AFB, KS -- Glen H.. Myers, Fri, Apr 10 2009, 6:06:47 PDT (host671420031130.direcway.com/67.142.130.31)
    George,

    I guess we were there at the same time. Did you cross-train from CE to AP? I worked Air Police Security/K9 while I was there. What I was looking for is the K9 patch we wore when I was there. I don't guess you would have one, but thanks for the reply anyway.

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  • News Today about Va funding & Record Transfers -- John Paul Coakley, Thu, Apr 09 2009, 22:21:03 PDT (cpe-98-154-6-203.socal.res.rr.com/98.154.6.203)
    Hey You'all,
    Good news today about Va funding & record transfers.I got an e-mail from the Iraq Veterans'web site.The White House & the new VA Chief(General Shiniski, not sure of correct spelling)announced that Military Records will now be electronically transferred from DOD to the VA in some new streamlined process eliminating all the bureaucratic Fu-k ups that caused so many problems for Iraq & Afganistan Vets. They also said that VA funding was not going to be like in the past. They plan to fund all the VA medical Medical programs in advance eliminating delays in diagnosis & care. White House & Va say this has top priority.
    Good News,
    JP Coakley, Bien Hoa-Pleiku 65'-66'

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