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Vietnam Security Police Association, Inc. (USAF)
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The Vietnam Security Police Association, Inc. (USAF) is an association for USAF Vietnam War Veterans
who served in Vietnam or Thailand from 1960-1975 as Security / Air Police, or as an augmentee.
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Vietnam Security Police Association, Inc. (USAF)

  • Keep Prayers Coming -- Roger Lansden 366th SPS, Wed, Jul 15 2009, 23:18:05 PDT (mail.colheli.com/12.25.168.146)
    I will keep this short. Back in the first part of Aug Hospice brought me home saying maybe a week left. I set a goal of making my Son's 22 birthday which was 3 weeks later on July 7 and then today I called my Dad who turned 89 to wish his 89 today. My next goal will be the end of the month waiting the arrival of my true love who is assigned in College Station TX fire dispatching all the fire scattered throughout Southern TX. She takes on 14 day assignments and then back home. My Sister is also hear to help me get through this. My daughter is also here helping.

    I have been eating up to 4 smaller meals Day which includes snacks. I am down to 96 lbs but still hanging in there like the energizing bunny. I was running around 112 the last time I was able to weight. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK BROTHERS. I TRY TO BE THERE EFERYDAY IN PRAYER AND THOUGHT F0R THE ALL OF YOUL. For those who are joing new life

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  • I Remamber July 20th 1969 -- Hector Ramos, Mon, Jul 20 2009, 12:37:08 PDT (pat.pseg.com/208.208.47.100)
    I Remember July 20th 1969

    The year 1969 was for me was a time of growth, wonderment, hope & fear. I thought I’d pen this remarkable personal experience of my youth because that particular day of July 20th was the day Apollo 11 landed on the moon and a man stepped on another planetary body for the first time. It is that one day in 69 that 40 years later has me vividly recalling the events of that historic day. But, first I must speak about why I saw this as a time of growth, hope & fear; I was 21 and in the 3rd year of my USAF enlistment. Then stationed at a small airbase, Binh Thuy in the Republic of Vietnam, I had grown to adulthood through my travels and experience in the military. After my baptism under fire and a steady diet of mortar attacks by an unseen enemy, I hoped and prayed that if I survived this conflict, that I would pursue my dream of acquiring a degree in the engineering field. Vietnam was never declared a war, but don’t tell that to any Nam vet or the families of the 58,000 plus KIA and the countless more wounded. The Age of Aquarius had now become a distant song and the reality of war, social unrest, protest; political conniving and government incompetence embedded itself in our hearts and minds. But this is not about that; I am merely painting the view we had from the Mekong Delta while trying to live up to the ideals of military service & fighting for a democracy. Now, humankind was on the precipice of realizing president Kennedy’s 1961 goal that, “I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the earth”.

    The time of fear was the thought that I would fly out of there not in what we called the freedom bird, but in a flag draped coffin. Thankfully, this morbid acknowledgement of our demise was dealt with an equal sense of survival and humor as we embraced a countdown of days left in country on a short timer’s calendar. So, on July the 20th 1969 I was six months into my tour with six to go…not officially a short timer yet (100 days was the rule of thumb) but not a cherry either. It was also a day of anticipation, the Apollo 11 crew of three, only hours away from lunar orbit, was preparing for the historic attempt of landing on the moon. The snippets of reports on Armed Force Radio or The Stars & Stripes newspaper was all we had since TV’s we’re rare and we slept during the day when full programming was available. For me and my fellow Security Policemen, it would be a typical day of sleeping from 8 AM until maybe 3 PM after another long night of providing security for the base perimeter, then getting up and repeating the nightly Devil Flight routine all over again. My own assignment, on this night as usual was 15 Alpha, a 25 ft high steel tower on the far end of the base runway. As I climbed up then went in and turned around to face the tiny village and the Bassac River beyond the perimeter fortifications, there before me was a bright almost full moon in all its’ glory. I sat down and immediately knew that this night would be different than any other and would remain indelibly ingrained in my memory.

    Apart from the fact that history was unfolding, it could have been just another night of vigilance, fear & surviving another nocturnal passage in this exotic, beautiful but war torn country. While most Americans were tuned in to their TV’s, I had settled into my post, checked and arranged my equipment then dug into my gear for my transistor radio, inserted the earpiece and tuned into Armed Forces Radio for the live broadcast of the lunar mission. Although it would be hours before the decent to tranquility base I was essentially transfixed by the view of the moon before me and consequently had probably put myself and fellow airmen at risk. I remember as the lunar lander made that last orbit on the dark side of the moon and resumed communications the exitement, fear of failure and hope of success practically had me riding with them as my imagination soared. Then as the decent began I vividly remember intense color as the retro rockets slowed the decent and they radioed back that they saw moon dust stirring up just before they counted down the last few feet to touchdown and engine shutoff. The words, “Houston, Tranquility Base here, the eagle has landed” came through the earpiece. WE HAD DONE IT!

    I let out a loud whooowie! America was first on the moon and I watched, YES WATCHED, from halfway around the world and there was glory, victory and hope again for the genius and resourcefulness of humanity. But wait, someone called out and it’s my sector K9 team below and he had heard my whooping, I recounted all that had just happened and he too was thrilled, but I was living it and soon was right back on the moon. Luckily, Victor Charlie (Vietcong) would not spoil this night.

    It was about 3 AM July 21 on my side of the world (July 20th, 3 pm EST), the decision to open the hatch and climb down from the lander would take about six hours. I would be off duty in three and the radio battery was about dead so the first words by Neil Armstrong after stepping off the ladder were heard by a group of us in our hooch, “That’s one small step for a man…..one giant leap for mankind”. Simply amazing we were all in awe but tired and needed to rest our bones. After that, we slept and maybe dreamt of home, family and girlfriends and the possibilities of the future. A future, that when all was said and done 58,228 would never realize. So yes I remember the triumph of July 20th 1969 and where I was that night, which for me happens to be, inexorably linked with the tragedy of Vietnam.

    Years later I eventually saw the video of the Apollo 11 sitting on the moon and the astronauts walk that many have claimed to be a hoax and I can understand why. It doesn’t compare to what I, while sitting in that tower with the moon aglow in a clear black sky, saw in my mind with such clarity and wonderment. As I have relived it over and over through four decades, I wouldn’t trade it……not for anything.

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  • Electronic Sensors -- Steve Hall, Thu, Jul 16 2009, 16:17:34 PDT (adsl-68-120-224-208.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net/68.120.224.208)
    Did the SP Squadrons in Vietnam use electronic sensors in or around the fence lines of the bases we guarded? If so, who was responsible for setting them in position and who monitored them? (To my Binh Thuy brothers, did we have them at BT? I sure never knew about them if we did.)

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  • Mini Reunion-Slides and pictures Etc. -- Ed Narwid, Wed, Jul 22 2009, 15:14:50 PDT (wisp.208.69.227.194.b2xonline.net/208.69.227.194)
    Those that are attending our Mini Reunion in Roanoke, Va in August -If anyone has any slides, movies, or photos etc they wish to bring please do so. If a projector will be needed please contact me and we will see what we can arrange.
    If anyone wants to give a talk etc that will be good to.
    I plan to try and get two of my friends that were pilots flying in Viet-Nam to give a presentation if they are available.

    Thanks Ed Narwid

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  • The return of an American Warrior -- Carl Chamberlin Phu Cat 67-68 LM # 540, Tue, Jul 21 2009, 13:34:12 PDT (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
    I received the following from fellow Brother Joe Pizzi out of Daytona and felt I should share it with all! You will need to cut and past the site at the end in your search browser!

    Killed in action the week before, the body of Staff Sergeant First Class John C. Beale was returned to Falcon Field in Peachtree City , Georgia , just south of Atlanta , on June 11, 2009. The Henry County Police Department escorted the procession to the funeral home in McDonough , Georgia . A simple notice in local papers indicated the road route to be taken and the approximate time. This was filmed during the procession by a State Trooper.

    Nowadays one can be led to believe that America no longer respects honor and no longer honors sacrifice outside the military. Be it known that there are many places in this land where people still recognize the courage and impact of total self-sacrifice. Georgia remains one of those graceful places. The link below is a short travelogue of that day's remarkable and painful journey. But only watch this if you wish to have some of your faith in people restored. Please share widely.

    http://blip.tv/play/AYGJ5h6YgmE

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  • NOTICE-Roanoke Mini Reunion update -- Ed Narwid, Tue, Jul 21 2009, 9:40:32 PDT (wisp.208.69.227.194.b2xonline.net/208.69.227.194)
    We are right around the corner for our First Mini Reunion in this area. looking forward to seeing all that plan to attend.

    On Friday night August 14th after everyone checks into the hotel we plan to meet in the lobby about 1900 (7PM) and head out for dinner.

    We have made arrangements with the National DDay memorial site and have a tour scheduled for 1030 hrs on Saturday August 15th. (Guided tour).
    There is an entrance fee to the area of $5.00 per person.

    If we have 15 or more in our group there will be no charge for the guided tour otherwise we will have to pay $2.00 per person for the guided tour. As of now we have 16 people. (If you see any hitchikers on the way pick them up and bring them ).

    FREE BREAKFAST at the hotel-
    Menu is-

    JUICES- Apple,Orange,and lemonade

    FRESH FRUIT--Apples,Bananas,Oranges.

    HOT DRINKS--Regular and Decaf Coffee also Regular and Herbal teas.

    Cappuccino and hot chocalate.

    BREADS- White Bread, Biscuits, English Muffins,Bagels,Waffles,French Toas and muffins.

    DRY CEREAL- Variety.

    HOT CEREAL-Variety of Oatmeal.

    MEATS-Bacon,Sausage,Sauge and gravy.

    DAIRY--Milk,Yogurt,Hard Boiled Eggs and Egg Patty.

    CONDIMENTS- Jelly,Cream Cheese,Peanutbutter,Syrup,Sugar,Salt and pepper.

    Breakfast items may vary or change due to seasonal items.


    If anyone goes away hungry shame shame on you.


    There is still room for anyone else who still wishes to join us.
    The discounted room rate can still be gotten by ag the Comfort Inn at 540-527-2020 and mention the Viet Nam Security Police Association reunion Aug 14 to Aug 16th.

    Special discount room rate is $84.00 plus tax. per night.

    Saturday evening we have use of the Hospitality room from 1600 to 2200 hrs.
    We will have an informal get together with food brought in as well as snacks and soda etc. (Note we will all contribute for the Pizzas that we plan to have deliverd the snacks and soda will be supplied by the Reunion committee).

    All those attending have a safe trip see you at the reunion.


    The reunion committee- Ed Narwid, Sam Lewis, Jerry Walker and of course our understanding and helpful wonderful wives.

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  • A True Story -- Jackie R. Kays, Mon, Jul 20 2009, 21:40:53 PDT (customer121_105.grm.net/216.139.121.105)
    A True Story

    As we all know…
    Forty years ago today we landed on the moon!
    On that day my wife, son and five year old daughter
    were on a plane half way across the Atlantic ocean
    on their way to Paris to visit family.
    The pilot of the aircraft came on the intercom and
    announced that we had just landed on the moon!
    My small daughter started crying and yelling to the top of her little
    voice; “I don’t want to go to the moon! I want my Daddy!”
    My wife told me that it took several minutes to convince
    my daughter that they were not going to the moon.
    The passenger as you might image were amused.
    We still kid my daughter about the incident.
    “And that’s the way it was!” (Smile)
    Yours truly,

    Jackie

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  • IN Memorie of CPL Matthew Lembke -- Roger Lansden 366th SPS, Tue, Jul 21 2009, 0:23:42 PDT (mail.colheli.com/12.25.168.146)
    Today they laid to rest Cpl Lembke at Willamette National Cemetery in Portland, Or. He was in is 3rd tour in Afghanistan's as a sniper when he was hit by an IED June 22nd and held on for 18 days in a coma and passed away July 10th. He was a buddy of my son and his friends. I would like at this time to ask for your prayer support and guidance through this difficult time for his family and friends. Here is the article in the Oregonian for his memorial.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/07/marine_matthew_lembke_of_tuala.html

    Sam, just wanting to thank you and the fine group of the Patriot Guard you are associated with.

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  • Uncle Walter -- Mike Tillman KY, Sun, Jul 19 2009, 13:08:26 PDT (74-129-182-191.dhcp.insightbb.com/74.129.182.191)
    I see that Walter Cronkite has passed on. Although I don't view him in quite the way I did Robert McNamara, I still feel that his take on Tet 68 ( and the rest of the media who followed his views in lockstep) contributed greatly to the manner in which the war ended as it did when it could have ended in an entirely different outcome. For the media to report that Tet was a disaster for the American military when they knew for a fact that it wasn't borders on treason, at least in my opinion. Reguardless of that, I held him in higher esteem than what we have today on the "news". Mike PR 66

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  • July 20, 1969 -- Pat Houseworth (July 21st in Vietnam!), Mon, Jul 20 2009, 5:31:14 PDT (cpe-98-28-33-191.columbus.res.rr.com/98.28.33.191)
    It was 40 years ago today that Neil Armstrong, who was raised a mere 18 miles from my hometown, first stepped out of Apollo 11 and put the first prints in Lunar soil.

    Armstrong, a civilian, from Wapakoneta, Ohio, just east of Celina via Highways 29 and 33. I watched as the events unfolded that July 21st(RVN Date) on our grainy TV in the Security Police lounge at Nha Trang. I had been in country but 3 weeks.

    Where were you 7/20/69?

    Pat Houseworth LM#575
    Celina, Ohio

    14th SPS Nha Trang 1969
    377th SPS Tan Son Nhut 1970

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  • New Found Friend -- Harry J. Bevan, Mon, Jul 20 2009, 16:08:13 PDT (pool-141-151-61-201.phlapa.east.verizon.net/141.151.61.201)
    Again this great site comes through,I received an E-mail from Bill Morgan a buddy I was stationed with in Nha Trang,out of no where a face from the pass and more memories. Hopefully some day before it is to late we will all meet. Thanks VSPA....

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  • 4th of July Celebration from Go Daddy -- Chaplain Jim LM #442, Fri, Jul 03 2009, 8:18:13 PDT (pool-71-178-4-198.washdc.fios.verizon.net/71.178.4.198)
    Got this from a friend

    Anyone involved in website development is familiar with GoDaddy.com as the largest purveyor of domain name registrations in the world. What many don't know is that Founder and CEO Bob Parsons is a decorated war hero and patriot.
    In 1968, Parsons joined the United States Marine Corps. He was assigned to the 26th Marine Regiment which was attached and operated as part of the U.S. 1st Marine Division. In 1969, he did a tour of duty in Vietnam, serving as a rifleman in the Delta Company of the 1st Battalion, 26th Marines in the Quang Nam Province.

    He was wounded on duty, medically evacuated and spent two months at a naval hospital recovering from his wounds. As a result of his service and injury he earned the Combat Action Ribbon, the Vietnam Gallantry Cross, and the Purple Heart.

    Each year for occasions such as Memorial Day, Independence Day, Veterans Day, etc., he produces a very high quality tribute. Sure wish we had a few more around like Parsons. Here is the link to his Independence Day Tribute this year. Enjoy.

    https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/holiday/independence2009/playmovie.asp?isc=gdr0704

    Happy Independence Day to everyone who knows what it means.

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  • Attention: All Ear Scratchers -- Steve Hall, Mon, Jul 20 2009, 9:03:30 PDT (adsl-67-121-105-209.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net/67.121.105.209)
    Attention all you Woofers and Ear Scratchers (AKA K-9 handlers). I read in this morning's OC Register that a new movie entitled "War Dogs of the Pacific" will air on the Military Channel on August 5. This movie is about the war dog program and several dog handler's experiences during WWII. Sounds like a winner to me! Wonder what took them so long? Oh well, better late than never!

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  • P-38 Can Opener -- Glen H.. Myers, Fri, Jul 17 2009, 11:02:12 PDT (host671420011130.direcway.com/67.142.130.11)
    Go to this web site for some informative information about the P-38.


    http://www.georgia-outfitters.com/page52.shtmlhe

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  • Reunion -- Jack Jobes LM 542 (disappointed), Sun, Jul 19 2009, 15:45:02 PDT (adsl-75-6-10-208.dsl.mrdnct.sbcglobal.net/75.6.10.208)
    Sorry to say I am not going to be able to make it to Phoenix this year like I thought for my first reunion.
    Mostly due to lack of funds..going to daughter-in-laws graduation from nursing school (youngest son's wife) and the return of my oldest son home from Afghanistan where he is working as civilian medic (he is retired army medic).
    Also not sure when I am going to be scheduled for surgery to have a cyst removed from my pancreas. Have to get ok from my heart doc first. Wife keeps saying I can go to San Antonio next year. Both my sons have roots there with youngest going to AF Basic there and oldest going thru his Special Forces Medical training at Ft Sam Houston. Oldest already told me I can check out the new river walk. Rest of you guys have a great time and keep me in mind.
    Jack Jobes, Phan Rang AB, 67-68, Panther Flight

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  • Please Pray for Monica -- Ron Eberhart L/M 47 (Hopeful), Tue, Jul 07 2009, 9:10:33 PDT (adsl-76-235-82-211.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net/76.235.82.211)
    VSPA Brothers------Although most of you have never met me some know that my wife has been suffering from multiple myleoma(cancer of the bone marrow) for almost two years. It's a very hard disease. I almost lost her in March of 2008 but her inner strength, love of family and God/Christs blessings pulled her through.

    She has been controlling the disease with chemo. Her first (Thalidomide) did her some good but didn't stop the bone damage caused by the disease. The second (Velcade)collapsed her lung and put her in ICU in March 08. The third (Revlimid) stopped the bone damage (she was facing a 2nd hip replacement). Her damaged bones healed on their own. She got back on her feet and was able to walk up the stairs to her own room and sleep in her own bed. It was miraculous. Her blood numbers improved and we went on a short/limited vacation in July 2008 to celebrate.

    Her numbers held fairly steady. Although she had lost 50 lbs. and about 3 inches in height she was able to have some quality of life and enjoy her home and children and grandkids. She went from nearly gone in March 2008 to celebrating Christmas at home with the family. Thanks to God & Christ for answering the many prayers with the right drug (just approved by the FDA in 2006) to give her some of her life back.

    No man has aver had a better companion. She is totally selfless and dedicated to her husband , her family, her grandkids , her community and her church. She never smoked and you could put all the alcohol shes ever consumed into one bottle. With that she doesn't judge others for their lifestyle choices or try to force her beliefs on others.
    She worked with me for 3-years running the local American Cancer Society after a friend of ours from church (a 33 year old Air Force Captain with a wife and 3-little boys) died a hard death with colon cancer. We were broke so we decided to raise funds for the ACS. There was no local chairman so we took it over. She drove cancer patients to their chemo treatments for years stopping often as the chemo made them sick.

    In January the drug that was working so well started negatively effecting her liver. The doctors took her comletely off all medications. In April her urine surveys showed the disease was making a come-back. So even though she was pretty frail we aguished over the prospect of a stem-cell transplant.
    The transplant consists of 2-days of high-dose chemotherapy. The chemo kills the myleoma and all the good cells as well.
    I will be taking her to Siteman Cancer Center of Barnes Hospital in St.Louis on Friday. She will have a catheter inserted and check into the stem-cell transplant area (highly restricted). The first dose of chemo will be administered that night then another on Saturday the 11th. Please pray that the side-effects from this will not be severe. On Monday she will be infused with her own stem-cells which were harvested over a three-day period last October. These are immature blood cells that magically turn into red & white cells and platelets. It will take two to three weeks for these cells to do their job of bringing Monica's blood numbers up to normal levels. In the meantime she will be threatened with potential infection, pneumonia and other side effects of the chemo and a compromised immune system.

    I ask you to remember her in your prayers and include her in the prayers of any prayer groups you may be associated with. I know we've never met but I hope that one day down the road I'll be able to bring Monica to a reunion and meet you all face-to face.
    She will get her first chemo on the evening of this Friday the 10th-------Please ask God and Christ to help her recover and regain more of her life.

    Your prayers and kind thoughts are greatrly appreciated by both Monica and I.

    Regards, Ron Eberahrt LM/047

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  • New Appreciation of our Nation's Finest -- Sam Lewis, Sat, Jul 18 2009, 19:03:40 PDT (pool-70-110-14-22.roa.east.verizon.net/70.110.14.22)
    Dont let anyone tell you our nation's Finest are Weary of Fighting the War on Terror.

    The last two days Ruth And I have had the Privelege and Honor of spending time and talking to several members of our Nations Finest , The United States Marine Corp. From a 14 mile ride from the airport to the Funeral Home Friday morning , visitation last night , and the very moving funeral and 20 mile ride to the final resting place today each and every Marine in our presence no matter what rank, up from Camp Legune and other places , made a special effort to spend time with us , talk to us, thank us for our service then and now , and thank us for being there . They were genually appreciative.. Many of them have had multiple deployments to War Zones in Iraq and Afganistan and are looking forward to the prospects of going back in an instant if called .
    Please be in Prayer for this precious family who lost a husband , dad , and brother especial the little ones left behind. Its always tough watching the little ones attempt to understand why their daddy isnt comming home like he left. So pitiful last nite as we stood in the flag line in fron t of the funeral home , one of our slain hero's little girls who was about 4 yrs. old outside with some other kids slipped away and was looking around the cars in the lot to see if her dead father was in one of them . Tears the heart out.

    . Also Continue to our Remeber our Fighting Men and Women in Prayer. They so appreciate it. God Bless, sam


    We as Patriot Guard Riders were once again called to ride and stand in Honor of MSgt David Hatfield of the Martinsville(Southside ) Va. area who was slain by an IED in Afganistan .

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  • Need Prayer -- Howard Yates, Fri, Jul 17 2009, 23:09:00 PDT (198.56.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com/97.100.56.198)
    Saturday, July 18, 2009
    0200 hours

    I recieved a phone call from my youngest son, Ian, about an hour and a half ago. He was out with a couple of guys from our church. On the way to drop off one of is friends, their car was struck by an oncoming vehicle. My son sustained a bump on the head, while the two back seat passengers were not hurt at all. The driver, Jaccob Crouch, 19 years old, had to me taken by "Life Flight" to Orlando Regional Medical Center. Jaccob is the son of Jay and Karen Crouch. Jay is the youth leader at the First Presbyterian Church of Eustis Florida. Their family and ours are very close. As of this writing I don't know Jaccob's condition but ask that you keep him and his parents in your prayers.
    I am on my way to the hospital in a couple of miunutes.
    Will give update later.
    Thank you all in advance
    Howard

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  • Electronic sensors at the Air Bases -- Steve Hall, Fri, Jul 17 2009, 15:34:07 PDT (adsl-67-127-96-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net/67.127.96.96)
    It's interesting to learn about the history of the use of the electronic sensors. The reason I asked about them in my earlier post was that I came across a website about Fire Support Base Crook. The FSB came under a very heavy ground attack for three nights in June of 1969. The area outside the base in the surrounding jungle was planted with electronic sensors and the base also had a ground radar unit that detected the NVA when they were making their approach to attack the base. Since the Army personnel had an early warning, they knew where they were coming from had a pretty good idea of how many were coming. As a result, they were able to decimate the NVA. Very interesting reading. I imagine that even more sophisticated sensors are used by USAF Security Forces today. Thanks for all the info from everyone.

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  • I got to repay a debt -- Jim Payne Phu Cat 70-71, Sat, Jul 18 2009, 11:14:00 PDT (cpe-066-056-223-027.ec.res.rr.com/66.56.223.27)
    In March of 1971 when I got back in country, I was sitting in one of the bars a SecTac Airport in Seattle,Washington with a guy who had been sitting beside me on the freedom bird. The whole fight he had said he really wanted to get a draft beer since it had been a year since he had had one. He had asked the hostess what was on tap and she told us they only had Michalob and so we each ordered one, she asked if we were just back from Viet Nam and we told her, yes. After another round, we asked for our bill and she told us that the tab had been paid by someone at the bar. I said that if she would point him out I would like to thank him. She said that he wanted no recognition.

    Yesterday evening my wife and I were on our way to our place at Salter Path, NC when we stopped at a resturant in Goldsboro, NC. Goldsboro is the home of Seymour Johnson AFB. We had just been seated when a young SSgt in fatigues came in and sat down by himself. After he ordered, I was able to get his waitress to give me his bill and told her just to tell him that it had been covered. He ate and left and then I told her my story. She said that her husband had just retired with 22 years and that someone had picked up their tab once when they had been out and he had been in uniform and that her Father had served in Viet Nam. She then thanked me for what I had done. I said no, Thank you. It's taken me almost 40 years but I finally got to repay my debt to someone in Seattle.

    Jim Payne
    Phu Cat 70-71

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  • P-38 Can Opener -- Glen H.. Myers, Fri, Jul 17 2009, 11:00:54 PDT (host671420011130.direcway.com/67.142.130.11)
    Go to this web site for some informative information about the P-38.


    http://www.georgia-outfitters.com/page52.shtmlhe

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  • a little ditty -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Tue, Jul 14 2009, 4:09:09 PDT (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
    There's no Marcus Welby out there,
    Or even a Dr. Kildare.
    They give you a pill,
    And send you a bill
    And you wonder if they even care.

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  • 377th SPS Ramstein, Germany 1988 - 1991 -- Charles Penley, 377th Security Police Squadron, Thu, Jul 16 2009, 13:49:43 PDT (24-158-142-30.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com/24.158.142.30)
    Passing an email on to the VSPA View Message bulletin board.

    Charles Penley
    *******************************************************

    Sir, my name is Tom Rogers. I served in the USAF 78-86, then the Army till 2000.

    I am trying to locate SP's that were assigned to the 377th at Ramstein in the 88-91 time frame. I have some questions I'd like to ask.

    Might you pass my request on to any folks you know that fit the bill?

    My e-mail for this query is : ah6pilot@gmail.com

    Thank you,

    Tom Rogers

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  • A NEW"MUST READ" BOOK ON VIETNAM WAR.. -- Larry Breazeale, Msgt. (ret.) USAF, Thu, Jul 16 2009, 8:12:17 PDT (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
    Fellow VSPA Members,
    Be advised, there is a NEW BOOK ON THE VIETNAM WAR getting a lot of attention by veterans and citizens alike.

    It is titled....."RIDE THE THUNDER" by Richard Botkin

    Joseph Farah, editor of the 'first' and 'largest' news source on the internet..www.worldnetdaily.com , says this about the book..."You'll never think about the Vietnam War the same way again, after reading this book".

    General Anthony C. Zini, USMC retired says about this book..." It is a MUST READ for ALL who want to understand the true nature of the Vietnam War".

    I think it "we" as Vietnam veterans should check this new book out.

    I recommend you go to www.worldnetdaily.com

    Scroll down to the left hand column re: the book titled:

    "RIDE THE THUNDER" by Richard Botkin

    Anyways, this new book sounds very interesting! Enjoy.
    "DEFENSOR FORTIS" !



    -Larry Breazeale, Msgt.(ret.) USAF
    VSPA Life Member #233

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  • Poem -- Howard Yates, Sun, Jul 05 2009, 11:30:57 PDT (198.56.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com/97.100.56.198)

    THE PATRIOT

    The fear of battle churns inside
    As now I gaze upon the tide
    Of red with shouldered muskets gleaming,
    From the distant hills they’re streaming.

    Line by line they march unscathed
    For neither side has loosed their fray
    And all the while generals muse
    O’er each the other’s gallant moves.

    Now firm I stand to hold this ground
    While cannon shots burst all around
    And wait amid this sea of blue,
    I pray my aim is sure and true.

    With sons and neighbors side by side
    We mean to turn this crimson tide
    And send our message loud and clear
    To George, that all his house may hear.

    The throne of Britain may be yours
    From English cliffs to Scottish moors
    And you may o’er the empire reign
    But our resolve shall never wane.

    We’ll stand upon this sovereign ground
    In one accord against the crown
    And we shall from this moment be
    A nation born, forever free.

    ©Howard Yates

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  • historical reports on US Army in Vietnam -- Steve Hall, Wed, Jul 15 2009, 16:45:58 PDT (adsl-68-120-224-208.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net/68.120.224.208)

    I found an interesting website about how the Army conducted operations, used equipment and built & defended their fire bases (see URL below).
    If you have a few minutes to read some of the various topics, it gets pretty interesting to learn the details of how the Army built fire bases, used electronic sensors and deployed their armored units. Some of it's a little dry, but it is fills in some blanks as to how the Army operated.


    http://www.history.army.mil/books/Vietnam/tactical/index.htm#Contents

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  • New Member Introduction -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Tue, Jul 14 2009, 11:05:32 PDT (97-120-107-223.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.107.223)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Joe Russo to membership in the VSPA. Joe served as a dog handler at Nha Trang and Phan Rang in 1969 through 1971. He now lives in Arizona, and found VSPA with the help of another old SkyCop.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • New Member Introduction! -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Tue, Jul 14 2009, 13:31:38 PDT (97-120-107-223.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.107.223)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Phil Zoppo to membership in the VSPA. Phil served as a dog handler at Phu Cat in 1968-69, and currently lives in Maryland. He found us through our action-packed website.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • Another Life Member! -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Tue, Jul 14 2009, 11:29:06 PDT (97-120-107-223.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.107.223)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in congratulating Ron Duckworth on becoming VSPA Life Member #576. Ron served at Tan Son Nhut and TDY to Dao Phu Quoc (Phu Quoc Island) in 1967-68. He's been a VSPA member for 2 1/2 years, and currently lives in Wyoming.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • Brand New Life Member Introduction! -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Tue, Jul 14 2009, 11:47:54 PDT (97-120-107-223.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.107.223)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Tony Niemotka to Life Membership in the VSPA. Tony served at Nha Trang in 1968-69, and now lives in Illinois. He found us through our gloriously illustrated, fact-filled website. He becomes VSPA Life Member #577.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • moving message -- Bill Hartley (KY), Sun, Jul 12 2009, 16:27:31 PDT (h57.201.30.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/71.30.201.57)
    On the SUNDAY MORNING show this morning there was a moving message. I was tearing up at the end as it really hit home towards some thoughts that I have been having. With all the hoopla over Micheal Jackson's passing the news media have completely ignored the young Americans that have given their lives for this country. While Micheal Jackson was a prominant personage; I don't believe that he justified the same level of media coverage that a sitting president would recieve.
    The footage was of the service for a promising yound man that was killed in Afganistan the same day that Micheal Jackson died. The community out pouring and support was tremendous and the family was very gratefull for this. But his and the other combat deaths were TOTALLY ignored by the media. I hope that this is not a fore runner of the way that the media reacted to the deaths in Vietnam.

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  • Lost WW2 vet -- Jack Smith 377th SPS 68-69 LM453, Tue, Jul 14 2009, 16:52:42 PDT (adsl-75-42-220-199.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net/75.42.220.199)
    Today I attended the services for Bart German. A WW2 Army Vet. We have known him and his wife for many years. He and his wife had just enjoyed a party for their 65 wedding day. Bart had cancer but he took it with a grain of salt and never gave up. the reason I am posting his passing is that the American Legion conducted the honor's. They were all WW2 vets accept a young lady who was just listed as Airman First Class. They moved on to another service before I could find out her name. I justed wanted everyone to know that there are Air Force troops out there doing a great service for us all who get very few that atboy's or in this case atgirl. Jack The Old Cowboy Poet

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  • Agent Orange Info -- Carl Chamberlin Phu Cat 67/68 LM #504, Tue, Jul 14 2009, 10:14:41 PDT (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
    I received a message from my Daughter regarding a report posted by a group called "Second Voice" of which I will copy and paste below. It is a PDF file and if anyone has problems opening it let me know and I will forward it to your e-add. I did a quick read thru and it does have some very helpful information regarding the after effects of AO in the Nam and in specific area's as well with reporting dates of discovery for anyone who has need for additional information regarding AO claims or appeals.

    Subject: [second_voice] Darrow Trip Report PDF File(Vietnam 1969)

    This needs to get distributed to all Vietnam era veterans who are having problems with finding evidence for their claims.

    In skimming down through this I just couldn't help but to stop on page 11, section 3 where it refers to the damage of crops in the area of a Catholic church...
    "This damage was probably caused by fumes from empty drums of Agent Orange which were stored less than 20 feet from damaged plants"
    I guess I never cease to be amazed at little fragments of things that were noticed, witnessed & recorded so long ago but yet still denied today.

    Please forward to any Veterans that this report may help.

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  • About Education -- Glenn Wilson (Tune of a Hickory Stick), Mon, Jul 13 2009, 5:57:49 PDT (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
    Granted, I am just a bit short of being the smartest hard head who ever came down the pike. Even the small portion of common sense I was blessed with is beginning to fail me. I normally have to learn the hard way. I look back on the first ten and a half years of formal education I received. I can't say that corporal punishment in school was legal, but it was sure "winked at". My 4th grade teacher was barely 5' tall. She was meaner than your average "Junk Yard" dog. I jumped to the tune of her black hair brush which she swung with bad intent for simply not paying attention in a reading class. She nailed me at least a dozen times before I learned to avoid her vengence. She has been a resident of hell now for many years of course. But I think about the results she obtained. Some good and some bad. Between her and a big Bully who sat behind me, my life was made miserable. Eventually,I actually got to like and became friends with the bully. One winter day the teacher decided to make the entire class go for a freezing walk on the school grounds, led by the teacher. The Bully was kept in the classroom as usual. When we came back from the walk, we noticed a terrible odor in the classroom. Teacher made us sit there with the windows wide open and it was freezing. Later found out that the bully had urinated on the heat radiator in the room. Teacher was upset and I knew that I had a new great friend sitting right behind me in class!

    Glenn LM#117

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  • 12th SP Patch -- Larry Gramps Msgt Ret, Sun, Jul 12 2009, 9:25:24 PDT (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
    All you 12th guys need a little help here. While looking on ebay for stuff ran across a 12th SP patch. Low and behold when I pulled it up and looked at it it was a White Horse patch for the ROK army. When I wrote the seller that it was actully a Korean army patch he stated he had been told by a VSPA member it was a USAF SP patch. Granted I DEROS'ed before the move of the 12th but don't remember seeing that patch on anyone but the Korean MP's I worked with. There is a market for military memorabilia and sellers look at our patches and crest to make repo's. I am fine with that I just want to make sure things are right. So if nobody can come up with a date for a unit wide wear date for the white horse patch it should be removed from our pages or correctly titled as to what it is.

    Larry Gramps LM 401

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  • VVA National Convention -- Greg Cain, Fri, Jul 10 2009, 11:43:20 PDT (cpe-74-77-51-188.buffalo.res.rr.com/74.77.51.188)
    This yesr the VVA National Convention will be held in Louisville Kentucky from July 28th till August 2nd. I plan on attending. WIll there be any other VSPA Brothers out there planning on going? If so, lets try to meet .

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  • McNamara -- Joe Pizzimenti LM 557, Wed, Jul 08 2009, 6:39:48 PDT (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
    This morning I got my local paper (Daytona Beach Fla News Journal)and on the editorial page was an editorial cartoon that really stuck home
    Saint Peter was at the Golden gate and McNamara was standing there..St Peter said "Welcome Mr McNamara, there are 58,000 Soldiers waiting inside to have a word with you.."
    That said it all..except I don't believe McNamara would have made it even that far.
    I am saving the editorial cartoon..anyone who may want a copy, let me know and I'll attempt to scan it and send it to you via an e mail
    WELCOME HOME BROTHERS

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  • Final Guardmount for a VSPA Brother -- Steve Gattis, Tue, Jul 07 2009, 9:50:41 PDT (24-116-15-35.cpe.cableone.net/24.116.15.35)
    Hello to all.

    I am sad to report the loss of another VSPA brother. I received the following from VSPA Member Cliff Gregory who reported:

    Hi, Steve.
    The obituary and funeral information for Rick Burlenson is shown below. Rick & I were very good friends, We are from Little Rock, went to same high school, ran around together after service. He was a security policeman at Tuy Hoa in 69/70. He is a VSPA member. I am sending you this info so you can update the membership roster & I thought you or someone from Tuy Hoa might want to contact the family. I am sending contact info. Thanks I do appreciate it very much.

    Your Nam Brother, Cliff Gregory

    RICHARD DAYNE BURLESON, born on 11/20/1947 passed on in Memphis, TN on 6/29/09. Survived by his wife of 37 years, Hester Burleson; son Jason; daughter Jaime; two grandchildren, Robbie and Kaitlynn; four brothers and two sisters. Preceded in death by father and mother, Claude and Essie Burleson. Pallbearers will be Mark Burleson, Ron Snead, Jerry Brannen, Jason Burleson, Rick Burleson and Warren Carroll Burleson. Visitation at North Little Rock Funeral Home Wednesday 5 – 7 pm; Service 10 am Thursday at North Little Rock Funeral Home; Service at Veterans Cemetery in North Little Rock at 11 am Thursday. In lieu of flowers, send donations to National stroke Association.

    Please see the Restricted Area for address information.

    My best to all of you.
    Steve

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  • Ranking Value between Michael Jackson vs. KIA deaths -- Don Poss, Fri, Jul 10 2009, 10:31:28 PDT (cpe-75-82-158-38.socal.res.rr.com/75.82.158.38)
    The debate continues concerning national priorities for dwelling upon the death of a social icon versus ongoing deaths of warriors fighting to defend the nation against another terrorist attack.

    I believe the heartland of America knows and values the difference. Consider that Fox News conducted a “man on the street interview” during the Michael Jackson media feeding frenzy, asking graduating students basic questions. Their answers were appalling. For instance, a few questions asked were:

    Q. What nations border the United States of America? A. Alaska; Australia; Florida.
    Q. How many stars are on the USA flag (pointing to a flag on a flagpole)? A. (Student looking at flying flag) it’s moving too fast to count them.
    Q. How many brothers did Michael Jackson have? A. Four (correct).
    Q. Who is the Vice President of the United States? A. Palin?

    The point being…the students questioned were the graduate-products and representative failures of our educational process and system. Any appeal to their collective common-sense to prioritize a list valuing and honoring deaths of a pop-hero and military heroes will always result in the drug abuser, child molester, and known pervert soaring to the top of the list. That is what they were taught.

    One solution is a return to a basic educational process whereas unrevised history, the King’s English, world geography, advanced math, a love of country and the principles of democracy and republican form of government as founded upon, and embracing Judeo-Christian beliefs, are instilled in students’ DNA and the hearts of their professors. That is unlikely to happen.

    We license drivers and in my opinion should license voters. An interpretation of the 15th Amendment to the Constitution could deny the above graduating college students permission to vote until obtaining a base knowledge in the above. Today, a high school diploma no longer assures a foundation-knowledge was taught nor achieved. Unfortunately, neither does a secondary-education nor advanced degrees.

    Don Poss

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  • 8 July -- Pat Dunne CM/LM40, Fri, Jul 10 2009, 9:21:13 PDT (NoHost/208.62.255.60)
    How Ironic! A1C Lehman KIA 47 yrs ago on same day that Maj Buis and MSgt Ovnand, first causaltiies on the WALL 50 yrs ago. 1959! Hawk

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    • Re: 8 July -- Pat Dunne, Sun, Jul 12 2009, 13:22:20 PDT (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)

  • New Member Introduction -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Wed, Jul 08 2009, 18:12:41 PDT (97-120-111-40.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.111.40)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Bob Curnick to membership in the VSPA. Bob served as a dog handler at NKP in 1973-74, and now lives in Michigan. He found us by Googling around and locating our fact-filled website.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • House boosts funding for veterans programs -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Fri, Jul 10 2009, 12:51:32 PDT (dd.fws.gov/164.159.60.2)
    In part:

    The veterans funding measure contains sweeping increases for most of the programs it covers. It would pay to hire about 1,200 additional claims processors to relieve backlogs, provide money to cover more veterans whose health problems are not related to their service, and raise the reimbursement rate that veterans get for their drives to receive care to 41.5 cents per mile.

    One reason for the spike in health care costs is that wounded service members returning from Iraq and Afghanistan often have injuries — such as traumatic brain injuries and multiple losses of limbs — that in the past would have proven fatal but now require expensive care.

    The measure also boosts funding for military construction projects like barracks upgrades, firing ranges, and new chapels, day care centers and fitness facilities. It continues funding the 2005 round of base closures, providing money for improving conditions at bases slated for troop increases and assisting states and localities in preparing closed bases for economic development projects and other uses.


    The rest of the story is at:
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31852144/ns/politics-capitol_hill/

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  • Photos of Nha Trang AB -- Tony Niemotka (neat), Thu, Jul 09 2009, 15:15:17 PDT (adsl-75-3-129-145.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net/75.3.129.145)
    George, I check out your pics and they were great. Thanks for info on how to get in.
    Tony

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  • New Member Introduction -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Wed, Jul 08 2009, 19:00:01 PDT (97-120-111-40.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.111.40)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Tom Caywood to membership in the VSPA. Tom served at Da Nang in 1971-72, and now lives in Wisconsin. He found us through the VSPA's amazing website.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • Merle "Sandy" Shaner -- Merle S. "Sandy " Shaner (Just OK, G.I.'s), Wed, Jul 08 2009, 6:33:20 PDT (195-248.186-72.tampabay.res.rr.com/72.186.248.195)
    I served in the Security Police at Phu Cat from Aug 69 to Aug 70. Working the ROK Gate on the night my daughter Michelle was born April 29, 1970, born at New Brunswick, Canada. I am from Queen Anne County Md. but now retired from the De. State Police.living in Tampa Bay, Fl. I also served 1 year at Tan Son Nhut at Saigon from Jan.68 to Jan 69., having only a 6 month back to the world before going back over to Da Nam. In closing, mostly at Phu Cat I worked the Perimeter Bunkers, etc. the entire time I was there, occasionally working the Main Gate going into town. I have photo's from Vietnam, I guess I should post. See Ya.

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  • Tower Photographs -- John Plewa, Mon, Jul 06 2009, 17:48:37 PDT (c-68-61-183-135.hsd1.mi.comcast.net/68.61.183.135)
    DOES ANYONE HAVE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE TOWERS LOCATED ON THE PERIMETERS TO SHARE. I WILL GLADLY PAY FOR THEM. WHEN I WAS THERE I DID NOT HAVE A CAMERA TO TAKE A PICTURE OF THEM. THANKS!

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  • Poem- "Hill 937" -- Jackie R. Kays, Mon, Jul 06 2009, 13:42:38 PDT (customer121_104.grm.net/216.139.121.104)
    Hill 937 in Sha Valley
    (Hamburger Hill)

    Rice patties, elephant grass, mountain tops,
    and into the Valley of Death they fought,
    bleeding and died for reasons many knew not why.

    Monsoon rains, sun baked plains, jungle aflame!
    War is a deadly game; claymore mines, razor wire,
    machine gun fire, Howitzer’s loud refrain.

    B-52’s, 104, A1E’s and choppers galore!
    Bombs, rockets, flares and more.

    Screaming, yelling, agony and pain,
    arms and legs and bloody brains!
    Bouncing Betties was the name
    of their game.

    Blood on the ground, death all around
    and not a “Dustoff” to be found.

    Hill 937 in Sha Valley; just a walk
    in the park, ask anybody that’s left to talk.
    Precious names on that black granite wall,
    who fought and died for us all!

    On hill 937 their spirits will forever remain.

    Dedicated to all the men who fought so gallantly
    For “Hamburger Hill” (1969)


    Jackie R. Kays
    © 7/4/09

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  • Fallen Police Officers -- Glen H. Myers, Tue, Jul 07 2009, 6:47:41 PDT (host671420012130.direcway.com/67.142.130.12)
    Here is an interesting web site. It lists all officers killed in the line of duty, to include USAF Security Forces (SP & AP), but it does not list those members killed in Vietnam or Iraq. Every state and federal agency is listed. This may have been a topic of earlier discussions, but if it has, here it is again.

    http://www.odmp.org/

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  • David J. Hart's Dismount -- Timothy Mike Potter, Fri, Jul 03 2009, 16:37:11 PDT (nat02.mtp.cmsinter.net/207.241.137.116)
    I just found out that David J. Hart passed away this last March 21, 2009 after a long battle with prostate and lung cancer. His wife said that it was propably AO related. David served at TSN,NKP,and Ubon where he earned the Bronze Star for his heroism in the January 13th, 1970 attack. David was a no BS man and did his job without complaining.
    Condolences can be sent to his wife at:

    7634 East Apple Tree Dr.
    Tucson, AZ 85730

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  • xmusher2@cox.net -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Mon, Jul 06 2009, 23:36:33 PDT (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
    It's 0234 hrs on the East Coast and all Tiger Posts are manned and secure. Sleep well my friends.

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  • Phu Cat -- Tomas Amill (A1C -Bravo and Charley 7 in 70' at Phu Cat), Fri, Jul 03 2009, 7:32:10 PDT (d111h173.facil.uconn.edu/137.99.111.173)
    I'm really glad to see more people post pics of Phu Cat, especially of 1970 to 1971.
    Those are the years I spent there.
    Does anyone remember Sgt. Cox or whatever became of him.
    I was with Sierra 4 the night we lost SSgt. Wissing and Airman Davis.
    Tomas Amill
    ttamill03@yahoo.com

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    • Re: Phu Cat -- John Webster, Mon, Jul 06 2009, 17:33:55 PDT (pool-71-104-129-99.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.104.129.99)

  • Celebration -- Jerry Walker LM 427 Bien Hoa 66-67, Mon, Jul 06 2009, 10:03:29 PDT (pool-71-173-126-113.lyncva.east.verizon.net/71.173.126.113)
    Well I just wanted to thank all of you for helping me celebrate my 64th birthday this weekend. Just one more year and I hope there is still somthing left in medacare!

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  • Comrades -- Dennis Evans, Mon, Jul 06 2009, 13:15:27 PDT (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
    Just wanted to drop a quick note to say that I was invited to attend the Vietnamese Special Forces Celebration in Houston on the 4th of July. I was invited by the QC Organization and felt it to be quite an honor. These men and women are very patriotic, but place the USA first. When they brought the flags down, the US Flag was there held high. They joined in singing the US National Anthem first and then the South Vietnamese National Anthem. I was thanked time and time again for fighting by their side in defense of their country and made totally comfortable at all times by the Quan Canh, The 81st Airborne and the Green Berets. I have been invited to attend their National Reunion in September (4-6) in Houston and they have asked me to extend an invitation to all VSPA members who would like to attend. These people are true patriots to their adopted country and their former country. I hope some of you can join me at this reunion. The invitation was also directly extended to Steve Gattis, by QC Long Nguyen, but this is an Open invitation to all VSPA members.

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  • Pease Greeters -- Sam Lewis, Mon, Jun 29 2009, 14:19:15 PDT (pool-151-199-11-24.ronkva.east.verizon.net/151.199.11.24)
    Bud , arent you one of these? This came off the NH prg Member Forum . Thought you might want to see it. Keep up the great work. sam


    Hey all,

    Hope you are enjoying this lovely weather.

    I am sure many of you know about this group but I wanted to share it with those here just in case some didn't know.

    Pease Airport is an ex military airport that is near Portsmouth, NH. I just recently found out that there is a group formed there called the Pease Greeters that come in and welcome the planes coming in to refuel that have military people on it.

    My sister in law went the other day and took her small dog with her. The men and women getting off the plane were so surprised. As they came off the plane, those there clapped for them, greeting them with hugs and thanks. Several tables of phones were set up so they could call home and say hello before they got home.

    They are also given small snacks to take on the plane with them and I believe they get a shirt that everyone there signed.

    I wanted to mention it because I think this is a wonderful thing that is being done. If any of you happen to live near there you can check the schedule of flights on the Pease Greeters site and see when the planes are coming in and get more information.

    I thought it was worth mentioning. Here is the link to their website:

    http://www.peasegreeters.org/

    Have a great one all!

    Amy

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  • Home Depot 10% Discount for Veterans -- Chaplain Jim LM# 442 (Through July 8, 2009), Sat, Jul 04 2009, 13:14:25 PDT (pool-71-178-4-198.washdc.fios.verizon.net/71.178.4.198)
    I went to Home Depot today and saw a sign that said 10% discount to all military active, reserves, retired, and veterans. When I got to the counter and asked, the clerk said she needed to see any kind of proof. I showed her my VSPA member card and got my 10% discount. The offer ends July 8th.

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  • New Member Introduction -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Tue, Jun 30 2009, 18:52:20 PDT (97-115-70-54.ptld.qwest.net/97.115.70.54)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Scott Evans to membership in the VSPA. Scott served at Pleiku in 1968-69, and is now a retired Air Force CMSgt (among other things). He lives in California, and found us through our incredibly illuminating website.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • Happy Fourth of July -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Sat, Jul 04 2009, 2:40:49 PDT (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
    Happy 4th of July to all.

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  • For the 4th Of July -- Jack Smith 377th SPS 68-69 LM 453, Thu, Jul 02 2009, 18:56:51 PDT (adsl-75-60-220-46.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net/75.60.220.46)

    This is one for the 4th of July. Lest we forget.. Jack


    The Flag



    Seeing Old Glory Flutter in the wind
    Imaging all the places it had been
    Gazing on those stars of pure white
    That led men into wars to fight

    Red and Blue stripes in battle flowing
    Always forward never slowing
    Carried proudly in desert and jungle
    The flames of freedom it will kindle

    It has been spit on and burned
    By those whose freedoms it has earned
    Places in the world hate our flag
    But it is us who have the right to brag

    Shame on them who do not understand
    What this flag means to so many of the land
    That this great symbol has survived
    Allowing this land to thrive

    It is the foundation of freedom for all
    At home and overseas it should never fall
    The glowing pride of the Stars and Stripes
    Helped to bestow on us our rights

    Freedoms that so many take for granted
    All that should be held sacred
    Won by brave men who a oath they swore
    Who gave their lives in freedoms wars

    To keep our flag flying so high
    The next time it passes you by
    Remove your hat touch your heart
    Remember those who have done their part

    Thank them for your freedom
    Bow your head pray in solemn
    That this country never falls
    And that our Flag always flies tall


    Edwin J. Smith
    The Old Cowboy Poet

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  • Phu Cat -- Tomas Amill (A1C -Bravo and Charley 7 in 70' at Phu Cat), Fri, Jul 03 2009, 7:30:48 PDT (d111h173.facil.uconn.edu/137.99.111.173)
    I'm really glad to see more people post pics of Phu Cat, especially of 1970 to 1971.
    Those are the years I spent there.
    Does anyone remember Sgt. Cox or whatever became of him.
    I was with Sierra 4 the night we lost SSgt. Wissing and Airman Davis.

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  • New Member Introduction -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Sun, Jun 21 2009, 9:13:13 PDT (97-120-106-185.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.106.185)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Lance Osborne to membership in the VSPA. Lance served as a dog handler at Cam Rahn Bay in 1971-72, and currently lives in the great state of Washington. He found us the way a lot of guys do these days, through our world-class website.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • the PGR at Phil Langes Visitation and Funeral -- Sam Lewis, Wed, Jul 01 2009, 18:39:59 PDT (pool-151-199-11-24.ronkva.east.verizon.net/151.199.11.24)
    I dont think Paul Lange will mind my sharing this here.. On Friday Nite it was requested I contact the PGR folks in NH an attempt to have a Flag Line at the Visitation and Funeral of our dearly departed Brother Phil Lange yesterday evening. I made contact with the folks in NH late Friday Nite and told them Paul Lange a son would send a formal request by phone and email Satutday which is the proper protocal. He didnt hear anything back from the NH PGR and he and his mother were disappointed he hadnt to say the least. Monday afternoon I got the Virginia PGR State Captain , who is a personal friend of mine and responsible for our being in the PGR ,to call Paul Lange and his mother , offer his condolances , and contact anyone he could witH the PGR in NE even though we thought it was a long shot making it happen by Tuesday afternoon. I was thrilled to get this from Paul Lange tonight . Stuff like this is what makes riding and standing in all types of weather to many different places so worth it.

    I'll get Don to share the pics here when I get them if he will. God Bless the Langes and our Brother Phil's Memory. REST IN PEACE PHIL .


    Paul Wrote ,

    Sam,

    I can’t thank you and the PGR folks down in Virginia enough for making this happen. I didn’t hear from anyone in NH and was notified just prior to calling hours that the members of the PGR were at the entryway to the Funeral Home.



    I did thank them profusely for showing up and my Mother was very pleased. Many comments were made by those that came in as to what a nice tribute to my Father they were.



    I will write more later and I do have a few pictures to forward to you after I get them transferred.



    Again, I can’t say thank you enough for all of your assistance and the other gentleman that called later in the evening after we spoke (I misplaced his name).



    Paul

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  • Out and about -- Roger Lansden LM 269 366th SPS (ASP-1), Wed, Jul 01 2009, 10:15:40 PDT (71-20-131-119.war.clearwire-wmx.net/71.20.131.119)
    We have been having great weather out here in the Pacific Northwest. Lower 80's but will start to work IT was up some into the 90's. I live up on the 4Th floor of an apt that I have been at for 5 yrs and have a tremendous view of the mountains leading to the coast plus just a great view of all the surrounding hills. I spend a lot of time just setting there enjoying it all. Yesterday I wanted to get out and stretch the old bones and mussels so I took the family out to the Portland Zoo. What a great day. We were gone about 5 hrs and yes.....I did get a little cart to help me get out of the South Africa whole which is one of my favorite places.

    It's been a long time for me to wish all the New and Life Members and into this best out fit around and my prayers go out to all of those who have requested those.

    As for me........I'm still hanging around defying all their odds. Take care and love to all.

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  • New Member Introduction -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Sun, Jun 28 2009, 18:03:26 PDT (97-120-105-73.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.105.73)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Louis Werner to membership in the VSPA. Louis served as a dog handler at Binh Thuy in 1966-67, and without a dog at Ubon in 1968. He currently lives in Minnesota, and found out about this Brotherhood from another SP.

    Louis didn't give an email address, but if you would like to contact him his snailmail address and phone number are in the website database and accessible by VSPA members.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • Roger Lansden Update -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Sun, Jun 28 2009, 5:04:33 PDT (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
    Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 5:48 AM
    Subject: update


    Sorry for such a late update. It has been a very long journey over the course of the last several weeks since I started this. The day before I left to go to Fl to see my parents I discovered the second round of Chemo I was taking was not working. We discussed a third level round of treatment which offered little hope when I got back but I decided to try it although the Doc said it would be harder than anything I had been through yet. On my trip I got into some break through pain I couldn’t control so they had new meds for me when I got back. I went from bigger and more powerful stuff to finally a full time patch.



    During my set up Chemo meeting he approached me about a scientifically research program being conducted in Vancouver WA. It was set up on weekly bases where I took a pill daily, a shot weekly in the stomach that is in a research stage and on the third week and IV drip. The research end was provided for free do to the shot still not being FDA approved. I would be responsible for all the MRI, Pet/C Scans, blood work and office visits. There are only around 29-35 people trought different clinics and he said they had had a fair amount of success and both Doc’s felt I would be better off going clinical. My Co insurance does not cover research stuff so I was left out on my own. Eventually I was able to get all bills paid but it ended up going to long and didn’t make the screening process due to a blood transfusion I had to have and the outside blood from someone else disqualified me from the program. I found this out the day before I was to start the research.



    Not many choices left at this time. The chemo which gave little hope and no quality of life or go with Hospice which I will be in no pain and have some quality of life to spend with my Family. My Sister and Brother have come out from OK and KS. My Daughter and EX from TX are also here and of course my true love from ID is here to be with me to help me through the end.. I am acutely eating well, 3 meals a day and get out for some exercise and short rides. All my nurses very happy with me and I am holding up well considering weighing in around high 130 when I started chemo back in Aug, 08 to around 112 now.



    I want to thank all you my Brothers for your help and prayers over this time. I ask that you continue on and please pray for my children and family and give them the guidance to go through this. Would someone please include Chaplin Jim as I can’t pull his name off the BB? Maybe Chaplin Jim could put a small post for me.



    I have not really officially worked in the field since June but have worked out of the office and home. I am pretty much done and just riding out my sick leave and some vacation I will still be on the this email until…………so drop me a line if you like. I would like to hear from you.



    I’m 24-7on Morphine now and if I need boosted I just push the button but spell check at this time leaves a lot to be desired so heads up. I love you all.





    Roger Lansden Phone 503 678-1222 Ext. 250

    Safety Training Coordinator Cell 503 329-0313

    Columbia Helicopters, Inc. Fax 503 678-5841

    P.O. Box 3500 Email rogerl@colheli.com

    Portland OR Web site www.colheli.com

    97208

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  • Roger Lansden -- Chaplain Jim LM #442, Mon, Jun 29 2009, 16:55:41 PDT (pool-71-178-4-198.washdc.fios.verizon.net/71.178.4.198)
    I just finished talking with Roger Lansden. Between his tired voice and my poor hearing this is what I can report. He's at home, and in very good spirits. As he mentioned in the message Bob Mitchell posted he's done with any more attempts at chemo. Roger is fairly pain free, he has a button to push if he needs extra pain relief, but he hasn't had to do that too often. He still can take walks and go for rides. As we spoke he told me he was sitting on his porch enjoying the view of God's wonderful creation. I asked him about his faith. He said his faith in God's grace was strong and that he is at peace. His family is with him, and hospice is also helping to care for him.

    If any would like to talk with him, I have his home number, email or call me and I'll give it to you.

    Remember him in your prayers.

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  • Book Review of "Security Police in Vietnam and Thailand" -- Jackie R. kays, Sat, Jun 27 2009, 14:27:19 PDT (customer121_100.grm.net/216.139.121.100)
    Recent Book review in "ForeWord Mag."

    BOOK REVIEW by: Lee Gooden

    Security Police: Vietnam & Thailand War Stories
    by: Jackie R. Kays
    Category: History
    Publisher: Lulu.com
    Softcover, 356 pages, $17.76
    ISBN: 123456789X

    “The stories told within the pages of this book are a reflection of a war long past, but never forgotten by men, who were constantly in harms way.” —Jackie R. Kays
    Fifteen years ago during the first Gulf War, Desert Storm, American troops were fully supported by the American people, even if some didn’t agree with the war.
    Now, six years into “Iraqi Freedom,” the American people treat their troops with reverence even while deeply critical of the government’s activities. This is vastly different from the reception our troops received from the so-called “Love Generation” in the late Sixties and early Seventies. So incomprehensible and humbling was that war and its experience that many wanted to forget about it, bury their heads like the proverbial ostrich and deny it ever happened. But it did happen, and the American people are still paying on a physical, monetary, mental and spiritual deficit.
    After serving their tours of duty and fighting an opponent that had been in a perpetual state of war, the ‘Nam veterans expected at the least a warm welcome and a little understanding at home—never mind the tickertape parades of WWII. Instead, they walked into a ‘country divided’. A mass of people caught up in the civil rights/peace and love protests. Some protestors actually had the audacity to attack and ridicule the vets blaming them for governmental policies in Vietnam.
    Security Police Vietnam & Thailand War Stories, compiled by Jackie R. Kays, is a small but positive step towards the recognition and validation of unsung air-policemen that successfully defended our bases in Vietnam and Thailand. Because of their bravery and dedication not one airbase was ever overrun by the enemy. The majority of the testimonials in Security Police have a conversational feel to them, as if listening to reminiscences over a friendly beer where grammar and spelling doesn’t make a difference in the telling and only the heart beating within the content matters. The typos and misspellings add a “to err is human, to forgive is divine” quality. For example in a story entitled Sandbags by Sgt. Mike Diaz, he writes, “When we who served are all gone, to a man and women, what will generations of military and civilians say about us? I am no writer, and the only time I put pen to paper is when I have to write a report so please be easy on the grammar, punctuation and structure…”
    Security Police consists of thirty stories from twenty-seven veteran air-policemen, including eleven black and white photographs that give a face to these memoirs. Readers will be honored to share, learn, and become a part of an elite extended family, the Combat Air Policemen Vietnam veteran.

    Review by: Lee Gooden

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