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Vietnam Security Police Association, Inc. (USAF)
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The Vietnam Security Police Association, Inc. (USAF) is an association for USAF Vietnam War Veterans
who served in Vietnam or Thailand from 1960-1975 as Security / Air Police, or as an augmentee.
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  • VA Claims filing -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Mon, Nov 02 2009, 10:11:24 PST (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
    http://www.vawatchdog.org/

    On this man's website there is a whole section giving detailed instructions on how to file a VA Claim and idiot proof it.

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  • Post Check Main Gate -- Jack Smith 377th SPS 68-69 LM 453, Mon, Nov 02 2009, 5:15:50 PST (adsl-99-159-251-79.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net/99.159.251.79)
    Main gate reporting; Crisp 32 degrees bring and clear skies. Traffic moving steady. School bus +passed at 0730 hrs. Next traffic will be the mail truck at 1045hrs. School bus back at 1530hrs. Quiet days here.
    For you that know my wife Roberta. She will be in the Horsepistol in the morning for a full knee replacement on her right leg. Any prayers will help. I will keep you all up dated on her.
    For all you K-9 troops. If you can find a copy of the Nov/Dec issue of The History Channel Mag, there is a real nice story on K-9's
    God Bless you all. Jack The Old Cowboy Poet

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  • Past Thanksgiving Feasts -- Don Hamilton, LM 201 (yum yum), Fri, Oct 30 2009, 15:22:18 PDT (ip68-231-100-12.ph.ph.cox.net/68.231.100.12)
    Brothers-

    The Thanksgiving Day Holiday is only a few weeks away. I was wondering what you ate when you were in country on Thanksgiving Day?

    C Rats? Turkey from the Chow Hall? Perhaps something from that Package From Home? I am sure more then one of us had the liquid meal.

    Perhaps you were lucky like I was and did not arrive till after Thanksgiving and left for Home before the next one.

    Don Hamilton, LM 201
    Tuy Hoa 69-70

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  • Newest Life Member -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Sun, Nov 01 2009, 10:06:22 PST (97-120-194-187.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.194.187)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in congratulating VSPA member Dave Maltzan on becoming Life Member #592. Dave served at Cam Ranh Bay in 1968-69, and currently lives in Michigan. He's been a VSPA member for two years.

    Welcome Home to VSPA!

    Phil

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  • Ray Ramos, DaNang -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Fri, Oct 23 2009, 12:00:42 PDT (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
    I was just surfing the web and found a post by a friend I've been looking for for years, Ray Ramos. His address was listed as 1023 W Amber, San Antonio, TX, 78221.
    I looked the address up on a search locator and he wasn't listed. I'm just wondering if anyone lives in that area and might be able to locate him. Just a long shot.

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  • Poem -- Terry Sasek, Thu, Oct 29 2009, 22:20:36 PDT (d192-24-203-219.try.wideopenwest.com/24.192.219.203)
    "Some Day When We Start Crying"

    Some day when we start crying will we ever stop?
    Will our tears keep flowing into a great river?
    Destined to fill the vast oceans we had crossed

    Will those memories we suppressed for forty years
    Take a toll on us from which we will never recover?
    From the images that have haunted us for decades

    The sights of old men and women seeking shelter
    To escape the constant threats of a hideous death
    Trying to understand why they've never known peace

    Maybe it's the heart breaking site of those orphans
    Those crying and lost kids just trying to survive
    Only had a few nuns who cared if they lived or died

    They were out every day begging for food or money
    So they could buy medicine from black marketeers
    In the hope that they could save one more child

    We were very young too and far from our own homes
    Missing our loved ones and friends we saw to much
    At nineteen or twenty we should've been in college

    Instead we were being shot at by rockets and mortars
    This was not the way we had planned our lives to be
    We'd graduate from college get a job and have fun

    But instead we were in the jungles and rice paddy's
    Some at fixed bases while others humped the boonies
    Searching out those elusive ghosts we called Charlie

    We have seen death and destruction at to young an age
    You had to bury it away in your mind or you'd go insane
    How in God's name can they kill and maim little children

    We all served in that God forsaken place called Vietnam
    We were suppose to defend their freedom and their country
    But in the end we were fighting to save each other there

    After all these years that have passed by we still care
    Our brother warriors that we had fought with side by side
    Are still to this day closer to us than our own brothers

    Some day in the future we will finally put it all to rest
    All that bitterness and the nightmares will become tears
    They'll form a flowing river that runs down to the sea



    © Terry Sasek - all rights reserved.

    Dedicated to a high school friend who
    served in Vietnam. He recently ended
    his own life after 40 years of those
    nightmares he just couldn't put away.

    In memory of my friend Jimmy Johnson

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  • Such a Sad Thing -- Sam Lewis LM 302 PR 67-68, Fri, Oct 30 2009, 4:00:13 PDT (pool-151-199-107-160.roa.east.verizon.net/151.199.107.160)
    Ive been so buisy these day organizing and participating in PGR events, home and family , and working regretfully I had to give up the VFW Honor Guard for a while at least until I retire in a year or so Lord Willing . . Hated to do it but there is just so much time for any of us and I want to do the things I can well rater that a bunch m of things Half A..ed.

    Anyway ,I was contacted by a friend day before yesterday to see if I could arrange for a flag line and escort for a three term Vietnam, Desert Storm , and 32 year veteran of the Coast Guard and Army who has suddenly passed away with a fast moving cancer . He piloted one of those River Boats up and down the Mekong River in Nam. Two weeks ago he was a vibrant 67 yr. old in seemingly perfect health and suddendly he was stricken with a form of cancer that most likely was brought about by exposure to pesticides . Bingo, Agent Orange. Las t night we stood in honor of this hero and today we will be taking him to his final resting place. Please pray for his wife and family who are devistated . sam

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  • Security Force Sharp Shooter -- Dave Maltzan CRB 68-69, Sat, Oct 31 2009, 19:23:34 PDT (ip-74-85.197.chesaning.speednetllc.com/74.85.197.147)
    I don't know if anyone saw this or not. I got it by e-mail from a good friend of mine who lives in SE Kentucky. He was blinded while serving in Nam.

    A REAL MISS AMERICA

    This 19 year old ex-cheerleader (now an Air Force Security Forces Sniper) was watching a road that led to a NATO military base when she observed a man digging by the road. She engaged the target (i.e., she shot him).

    It turned out he was a bomb maker for the Taliban, and he was burying an IED that was to be detonated when a US patrol walked by 30 minutes later.

    It would have certainly killed and wounded several soldiers.

    The interesting fact of this story is the shot was measured at 725 yards. She shot him as he was bent over burying the bomb. The shot went through his butt and into the bomb which detonated;he was blown to pieces. The Air Force made a motivational poster of her:

    (Folks, that's a shot 25 yards longer than seven football fields!) And the last thing that came out of his mouth ... was his ass!

    Yes we can be proud of our young security force people. They obviously are being well trained and putting that training to good use.

    Welcome Home
    Dave Phantom Flt.

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  • welcome home messages -- robert raybon, Sun, Nov 01 2009, 13:09:35 PST (adsl-81-146-89.mgm.bellsouth.net/65.81.146.89)
    Thanks to all the members of the VSPA for the welcome.It's good to feel among friends,i only wish i had known about the assoc.much sooner.Thanks to Ed Daubert who let me know about it,and i hope to renew friendships that are not forgotten.Thanks again. Robert Raybon

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  • New Member Introduction -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Sat, Oct 31 2009, 12:52:37 PDT (97-120-194-187.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.194.187)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Jack Soule to membership in the VSPA. Jack served at U-Tapao in 1972-73, and currently lives in Florida. He was recruited by VSPA member Mike Bostdorf (way to go MIKE!).

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • New Member Introduction -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Sat, Oct 31 2009, 13:06:43 PDT (97-120-194-187.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.194.187)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Bob Raybon to membership in the VSPA. Bob served at Tan Son Nhut in 1971-72, and currently lives in Alabama. He found out about VSPA from another SP.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • Who's on first? -- Bill Morris, Sat, Oct 31 2009, 1:48:40 PDT (66-169-160-167.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com/66.169.160.167)

    Who's on first? ....from YouTube.

    Abbott and Costello perform the classic "Who's on first?" baseball sketch in their 1945 film.... copy and paste the below.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShMA85pv8M

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  • How to find date of incident? -- Robert J. Mitchell, Fri, Oct 30 2009, 11:18:31 PDT (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
    Does anyone know how to find the date of an incident? I was on post at the end of the active runway, across from the mortuary when a plane landed at the other end of runway and the wing rockets (don't know the technical names or even type of plane) came flying down the runway over me and into the bay.
    I have no conception of the date other than it would have to be between Aug.'67 and Dec.'68.
    Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

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  • Memory Lane -- Ramps (Playa Confi Jukebox.com), Sat, Oct 31 2009, 13:57:45 PDT (host6714200145168.direcway.com/67.142.168.145)
    Guys..., I'm sitting here doing some studying on this rainy afternoon. In the background I have Playa Confi Jukebox playing the top 100 songs of 1963. I went to Basic Tng in February 1963, then to Air Police School at Lackland AFB, and by mid-summer I was a 17 yr old kid on my first duty station at Langley AFB, VA..., Long time ago. Practically every song brings back another memory..., You should try it..., Kinda' like a VERY MINI Reunion. If you're snoozin' yer loosin' (LOL) Ramps

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  • New Member Introduction! -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Fri, Oct 30 2009, 18:04:57 PDT (97-120-194-187.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.194.187)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Bill Adams to membership in the VSPA. Bill served at Tan Son Nhut, Bien Hoa and Korat in 1972-73. He now lives in California, and found us through our huge website.

    Welcome Home to VSPA!

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  • Target stores rejest Vets -- Joe Baden, Sat, Oct 31 2009, 4:36:49 PDT (ip98-183-150-43.hr.hr.cox.net/98.183.150.43)
    Heads up. I just received an e-mail from VietNam Veterans of America. It seems that a local VVA chapter had approached a Target store for a donation to help with the Moving Wall. Target refused because it is against their national policy. It seems that Target is a french owned chain. I feel if they can't help us; then we don't need to help them. Check it out and then THINK before you and your family shop there.

    Joe Baden
    LM
    Phu Cat A.B., RVN

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  • Saigon - Beautiful Sunday .............. -- Bill Morris, Fri, Oct 30 2009, 22:49:28 PDT (66-169-160-167.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com/66.169.160.167)

    Just copy and paste the below from YouTube for beautiful photos of Saigon -- the Capitol of South Vietnam from years past....

    The music is from the singer Daniel Boone who became a one-hit wonder in the U.S. with the song "Beautiful Sunday."

    Just happen to find this on YouTube and thought some might enjoy the photos and music....



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdGHWQ5Ev-Q

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  • World Series -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Thu, Oct 29 2009, 16:33:20 PDT (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
    Haven't heard much from Yankee fans concerning last nights game.
    Is it true that the Phillies wear RED SOX?--LOL

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  • a little help needed -- Bill Harris LM061, Fri, Oct 30 2009, 17:26:01 PDT (71-87-64-239.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com/71.87.64.239)
    Dear Brothers and Sister
    I had a good time in Phoenix but need some help.
    I need the guy that was at Binh Thuy that gave me his DVD to Copy to contact me ASAP He can now copy it as i have fixed it so he can do so.. sorry brother i do not remember your name as i have at times cant remember mine LOL....
    Second Sam i need you to contact me or anyone that can put me in touch with Sam... He is Native American sorry Sam sorry i did not get your last name.. Please if anyone can help me get in contact with these two people. I leave to go to my daughters home in Vietnam in less then two months and would like to make contact before i leave
    thanks all &
    Welcome Home
    Bill

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  • hon tre island k-9 -- john cain, Thu, Oct 29 2009, 20:28:20 PDT (c-76-125-133-211.hsd1.pa.comcast.net/76.125.133.211)
    on the hon tre island base it says no k-9 we did have 3 dog handlers at hon tre that would spend time there volunteer wise from nha trang . I spent 30 days on the island with my dog in 1969

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  • Vets get classifyed wrongly, why? -- Bob Hubbard, Fri, Oct 30 2009, 12:42:04 PDT (nc-65-173-72-246.dyn.embarqhsd.net/65.173.72.246)
    Got this newsletter today from my US sentor Sen. Burr (R-NC)...it really made me upset...



    Also with regard to our veterans, yesterday, I spoke on the Senate floor about protecting the constitutional rights of our veterans. Unbeknownst to many, veterans who come to the VA for help, but who cannot manage their own financial affairs, are labeled as “mentally defective.” On that basis alone, their names are put in an FBI database (along with criminals) and are denied their Second Amendment rights. These decisions about whose names to send to the FBI are not being made by judges or through a judicial process, but by VA employees who work with veterans.

    According to the spouse of one veteran who reached out to the VA Committee, a VA fiduciary told her husband – a seriously-wounded Iraq veteran – that not only would he not be permitted to keep an heirloom gun he intended to hand down to his son, but he would also not be permitted to go on adaptive hunting trips. This was not because he was deemed a danger to himself or others, but only because VA had appointed a fiduciary to help the family manage their finances. What’s worse is that this injustice is happening to the dependents of these veterans as well. That’s why I have introduced a bill to protect the constitutional rights of our veterans by ending this arbitrary practice. My bill, the Veterans Second Amendment Protection Act (S.669), protects the rights of veterans by ensuring that only a judge -- not an agency bureaucrat -- can determine whether a veteran is a danger to himself or herself or to others and whether to refer the veteran’s name to the FBI. This is to ensure that veterans receive due process under the law. This legislation is supported by the American Legion, Veterans of Foreign Wars, AMVETS, and the Military Order of the Purple Heart.

    America’s veterans fought for the liberties granted to us in the Constitution, and they deserve the freedom to enjoy the rights they sacrificed so much to protect. To view my floor speech, click here.

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  • Target date -- Van Digby, BX Manager, Fri, Oct 30 2009, 11:41:49 PDT (fl-71-49-15-235.dhcp.embarqhsd.net/71.49.15.235)
    Joyce and I arrived at the winter home in Florida last Monday night. The BX was shipped to Fl. until we arrived in Fl. The temps. coming from 20's/50's to the 90's has put a halt to cleaning up the house outside. We hope to start to mail out some 40 orders that have been sitting since we got back from reuion. At present, the target date to start mailing out orders is Monday, pm.

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  • New Member Introduction! -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Thu, Oct 29 2009, 18:08:16 PDT (97-115-119-112.ptld.qwest.net/97.115.119.112)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Don Poirier to membership in the VSPA. Don served at Phan Rang in 1971-72, and currently lives in New Hampshire. He found the VSPA by locating our overflowing website.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • Update Packages From Home -- Missy Hamilton, Sat, Oct 24 2009, 13:17:52 PDT (ip68-231-100-12.ph.ph.cox.net/68.231.100.12)
    Just to let you know, Packages From Home was so very happy to receive the donations made at the Phoenix Reunion.

    Your donation of $598.65 will help them fill the 9 empty shelves and send a package to so many of our troops in the wars.

    Thank You for your assistance and donations.

    Missy Hamilton

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  • Binh Thuy Troop at Reunion -- Bill Cummings, Thu, Oct 29 2009, 18:51:03 PDT (c-69-242-231-26.hsd1.az.comcast.net/69.242.231.26)
    During the last night of the reunion a member that served at Binh Thuy approached me and handed me two photographs of a dog and his handler that was taken during his tour. He asked me to see if I could identify the handler and get back with him..

    I have identified the dog team as Dennis Smith and K-9 Shawn A676 (tour of 1967) Binh Thuy.

    I have the photographs and if who every gave them to me would like them back - please contact me so I can return them.

    PS - Great looking dog team - looked like a bad $^@# dog by way!

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  • PTSD Claim changes -- Robert J. Mitchell, Thu, Oct 29 2009, 15:19:32 PDT (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
    http://www.baystatevet.com/bsvfall.pdf

    Interesting article regarding changes in VA's PTSD claims response.
    It encourages those who have been denied to refile.

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  • Plaque -- Mike Cowder (LM 553) (happy), Wed, Oct 28 2009, 13:45:04 PDT (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
    A week ago I sent my thank you to my VSPA Brothers for sending me a beautiful wooden carved plaque, but it never got posted for some reason.(My fault I'm sure). So I want to try this again. I washed "THE WALL" twice this year but I didn't do it for thank yous. In fact I never even knew about the plaque. There were a number of other VSPA and Eagle chapter (AFSFA)members there as well.
    Thank you VSPA. I'm really proud to be a small part of this organizaion.
    Michael Cowder

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  • Security Police at Tan MY -- James Cook, Tue, Oct 27 2009, 12:53:50 PDT (209-234-158-78.static.twtelecom.net/209.234.158.78)
    Does anybody have information about the 366th security police personnel from Danang
    that were posted to the US Coast Guard station at Tan My to guard the
    site. Is there any information on how/why the decision was made to use
    Air Force personnel and how long they were there and how many rotated
    through and what happened to the site?

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  • Vinyle Records to PC / Turntable -- Don Poss, Wed, Oct 28 2009, 21:41:29 PDT (cpe-75-82-158-38.socal.res.rr.com/75.82.158.38)
    Gents:

    Whoever emailed a week or so ago regarding the type of turntable I used for converting vinyle records to MP3 on my PC: Please email me, I have additional info for you.

    Don Poss

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  • People you meet.... -- John Lochte LM#556, Fri, Oct 23 2009, 7:39:40 PDT (CSC-CHD-FCH-3-CGEN-i-pub.amer.csc.com/20.137.18.53)
    I have Vietnam shirts and hats and decals on my Harley and car but...

    My step-daughter is in marching band at her high school (senior this year) and I was "volunteered" to help, which I don't mind cuz she is a great kid!

    I had one of my shirts on and was amazed at how many people came up to me and shook my hand and said welcome home...I mean, I get that from time to time, but these folks went out of their way to do it.

    As the sun set, it started getting a little chilly, so I put my VSPA jacket on. I started watching the show and noticed a guy who was filming (or making a video - lol - guess they don't film anymore) kept looking at me. He finally walked over to me and looked at the patch and said thank you for your great job! Seems he was an F-100 mechanic at Phu Cat the same time I was there. Small world!

    Just thought I would share...

    John

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  • Our Webmaster -- Sam Lewis, Wed, Oct 28 2009, 12:18:43 PDT (sslvpn.nrvcs.org/64.4.105.162)
    Don takes a lot of crap that he doesnt deserve, regretfully from me at times in the PAST and I do regret that, but when the chips are down he is always first there to help any of his brothers including those that have offended him.HE HAS TAKEN HIS VALUABLE TIME HELPING ME WITH A PROBLEM ALL AFTERNOON . Did he have to do that, NO . Under the circumstances should he have done that , probably not but he did it anyway.VSPA is indeed VERY fornunate to have him there for all of us. sam

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  • Brothers in Arms -- Mark Crawford (Great), Wed, Oct 28 2009, 4:47:48 PDT (c-75-71-19-181.hsd1.co.comcast.net/75.71.19.181)
    http://www.thewarriorsong.com/Welcome.html
    Ought to make you tap your toe's

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  • Honor Flight Volunteers -- Gary Jones, LM-363, Wed, Oct 28 2009, 3:31:42 PDT (cpe-098-025-041-213.sc.res.rr.com/98.25.41.213)
    I have extracted the following item from the AFSFA Eagle Flight Newsletter. They need volunteers to assist 101 WW II Vets making the trip to THEIR Memorial. This will be a highly emotional visit for these heroes. If you live in the DC area and can help, contact Mr Mike Emick at the phone/e-mail address at the end of this post.

    Honor Flight Needs Help. I received the following request from George DeFilippi, Chairman of the Steele Chapter of the Air Force Association (AFA) of Washington DC. If you can help please respond directly to him on this very important matter that needs an immediate response if interested.

    This is a last minute plea for help. On 29 October, Honor Flight will be escorting 101 World War II veterans from Ocala Fl to visit the WWII Memorial in Washington DC.

    What is Honor Flight - Honor Flight Network is a non-profit organization created solely to honor America's veterans for all their sacrifices. Honor Flight transports our heroes to Washington, D.C. to visit and reflect at their memorials. Top priority is given to the senior veterans – World War II survivors, along with those other veterans who may be terminally ill. http://www.honorflight.org/ A rare opportunity to meet these heroes of the “Greatest Generation.”

    Mike Emmick, the organizer, had local support lined up but they bailed on him late last Friday. If interested in helping and can spare the time see the details below:

    Subject: Honor Flight will be bringing 101 WWII Veterans from Ocala Fl
    Date: 29 October
    Time: 12pm
    Location: WWII Memorial
    Itinerary:
    · 12:00 - 2:00 WWII Memorial
    · 2:00 – 3:00 – Walk to Vietnam Veteran’s Memorial
    · 3:00 – 3:30 – Bus ride over to Air Force Memorial (drive by only)
    · 4:00pm – Arrive @ Arlington Cemetery for Changing of the Guard
    Need: 5-10 Volunteer escorts to push wheel chairs and general logistics.

    Mike already has 30 volunteers from Ocala but needs additional help. The local support he had lined up bailed on him. Mike is looking for 5-10 or more volunteers if possible to help escort, push wheel chairs and general logistics assistance.

    Volunteers should go to the WWII Memorial at 12:00 on the 29th and look for a large group of WWII veterans and ask for Mike… he says everyone will know who he is. His contact information is located below.

    Let me know and I’ll let Mike know to expect you. I’ve included his contact information so you can contact him the day of the event to complete your rendezvous.

    Organizer: Mr. Mike Emmick –
    Email: xtoothman@aol.com
    352-216-5252

    If any Eagle Chapter members will volunteer please let me know as well and send photos. I look forward to hearing from you.

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  • New Sapper Attack story posted! -- Don Poss, Sat, Oct 24 2009, 13:07:09 PDT (cpe-75-82-158-38.socal.res.rr.com/75.82.158.38)
    Gents & Ladies:

    A must-read story by Bill Trimble (LM465) concerning the Tan Son Nhut AB Sapper attack on 4 Dec 1966 at:

    <http://www.vspa.com/aspprotect/tsn-bill-trimble-k9-kemo-1966-1967.asp>

    Bill's story has an incredible account (with photos) of his being a dog handler in Vietnam for Ten Minutes! whereas he held the leash of a wound K-9 named NEMO. Read the surprise and ironic ending to this great story!

    Don Poss,
    VSPA Webmaster

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  • New Member Introduction! -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Mon, Oct 26 2009, 17:26:40 PDT (97-115-119-41.ptld.qwest.net/97.115.119.41)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Bill Doster to membership in the VSPA. Bill served at Tan Son Nhut in 1965-66, and currently lives in Connecticut. He found out about VSPA from another SP.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • Posted USAF Official photos of the 4 Dec 1966, TSN. -- Don Poss, Mon, Oct 26 2009, 21:52:02 PDT (cpe-75-82-158-38.socal.res.rr.com/75.82.158.38)
    Gents:

    Check out the USAF Official photos of the 4 Dec 1966 Sapper Attack at Tan Son Nhut Air Base. Photos by the 600th Photo Squadron. Submitted by Joe McNeil.

    http://www.vspa.com/aspprotect/tsn-joe-mcneil-4-dec-1966.asp

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  • VSPA BOOK -- George W Davis, Mon, Oct 26 2009, 13:06:37 PDT (187.birmingham-01rh15-16rt.al.dial-access.att.net/12.74.170.187)
    Do anyone have a update on the VSPA BOOK ?

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  • Phu Cat AB Sapper Attack, 22 Feb 1969, posted -- Don Poss, Sun, Oct 25 2009, 20:47:47 PDT (cpe-75-82-158-38.socal.res.rr.com/75.82.158.38)
    Gents:

    Member Mike Sipes has posted a SAPPER ATTACK story for Phu Cat Airbase, that occured on 22 Feb 1969.

    http://www.vspa.com/aspprotect/pc-mike-sipes-37th-sps-sapper-feb-22-1969-p1.asp

    WARNING: The Graphic Photos page is posted in the Restricted Area and requires current membership to Login.

    Don Poss,
    VSPA Webmaster

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  • Searching for Vietnamese Translator @ 3rd SPS Bien Hoa -- John W. Goodrich (Searching for long lost friend), Wed, Oct 21 2009, 18:46:18 PDT (cpe-67-10-176-96.satx.res.rr.com/67.10.176.96)
    His name was Son. All I have. We lost contact. Looking for his full name, etc. He was in VNAF but worked nights at 3rd SPS Bien Hoa Desk as tranlator. He was there from Jun 67 to Jun 69. I was there as Augumentee and Mortury Control Team.
    We shared many experiences during TET, etc.
    Does anyone know a name or a resource I could contact to continue my search? Would the 3rd SPS possibly have his names on a roster,etc.

    Thanks!

    John Goodrich
    Texas Veterans Commission
    210-274-8413 Cell
    210-659-6728 Home

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  • Our Music -- Ramps (The Memories), Fri, Oct 23 2009, 18:29:01 PDT (host6714200147168.direcway.com/67.142.168.147)
    I would like to encourage our new members to visit Chu65 for a tour through Vietnam in music and memories. It starts with Taps For The Fallen Brave and it never fails to cover my eyes with a mist that ends up running down my cheeks. Look for no 6 on page one, 50,000 Names On The Wall by George Jones..., Gary Jones recently wrote about the 25th anniversary (Gary is probably related to George, LOL). MANY, MANY favorite songs..., Welcome Home!

    chu65nang67.us/nam/StreamPlayer1

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  • New Member Introduction -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Sat, Oct 17 2009, 13:56:31 PDT (97-120-109-250.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.109.250)
    Ladies and Gents,

    While we were away celebrating at our incredible Reunion in Phoenix, the mail continued to come in to the Membership mailbox....

    Please join me in a slightly belated welcome to new member John Cain. John served as a K-9 handler at Nha Trang, Phan Rang and Hon Tre Island in 1967-70. He currently lives in Pennsylvania, and learned of the VSPA by finding our fantastic website.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • 56th SPS patch on ebay -- Jonathan Faulkner, 56th SPS, Fri, Oct 23 2009, 17:47:14 PDT (c-68-35-255-110.hsd1.fl.comcast.net/68.35.255.110)
    Check out this item on ebay and its description: http://cgi.ebay.com/Patch-56th-SPS-Cobra-Flight-SON-TAY-Vietnam-War_W0QQitemZ260486820506QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ca639729a
    Draw your own conclusions.

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  • Long Day with Troops -- Junious (Bud) Owens, Fri, Oct 23 2009, 17:41:12 PDT (c-71-232-184-187.hsd1.nh.comcast.net/71.232.184.187)
    Wel, Bette and I just returned home after a long day at Pease with Army Gueard that are returning Home. Couple of different units from all over but several from Iowa. Their plane had a problem so they were here about 5 hrs. We, the Greeters, enjoyed to long visit and had a chance to talk with many different troops. They did not mind since they were on USA Soil. Just thought I would let you know we are busy greeting the troops. Bud Owens, VSPA Service Officer.

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  • 24 October 1966 -- Bill Morris, Sat, Oct 24 2009, 0:41:47 PDT (68-187-33-39.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com/68.187.33.39)

    43 years ago today....

    President Johnson meets with other Allied leaders in Manilla and they pledge to withdraw troops from Vietnam within six months if North Vietnam "withdraws its forces to the North and ceases infiltration of South Vietnam."

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  • Thank-You -- Ron Eberhart L/M 47 (Blessed), Wed, Oct 21 2009, 7:11:14 PDT (adsl-76-235-82-236.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net/76.235.82.236)
    I just wanted to share my good news with all of you. As many of you know my wife has been suffering with multiple myleoma since July 07-------I have asked for your prayers several times throughout this ordeal.

    On July 10th she went in for a stem-cell transplant--this was a frightening thing to face. Waiting for the 10th of July was like waiting for an execution. It is ,in the words of her doctor, a 'harsh' treatment that consists of two days of high dose chemo therapy --then hang on and wait for the side-effects. It was every bit as rough as promised. After over two weeks with all her blood counts still at zero and her not eating things were getting critical.

    With the help of God & Christ , the many many prayers offered by friends she began a slow road back.
    She has slowly been on the mend. It is frustrating because its not a quicker process. Her weight had plummeted to 110lbs.----In the last month I noticed she was beginning to sound and act like herself around the house. She gained back 8.5 lbs.

    Yesterday we had her monthly meeting with the doctor---he seemed unusually happy. He handed me her latest blood-count numbers and disease progression numbers.
    He then told us she is now officially in remission---As you might expect we were thrilled so I thought I'd share our good news with all of you.

    Thank-You for all of your prayers and well wishes---I understand we will forever have to worry about this but if you knew how far Monica has come since we almost lost her in early 2008 you'd understand how wonderful this is.
    Again---many thanks for all your prayers---and please continue to remember her -----God & Christ has blessed us and you will be blessed too if you trust in God.

    Regards, Ron Eberhart LM/047

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  • PRangers Picture from Reunion! -- Hawk, Sat, Oct 24 2009, 6:58:01 PDT (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
    Anybody got a copy of group picture of PRangers in PHX? It's for my buddy Rick Hernandez. Rick was at PR 67-68. We were roomies at March 69-70. Hawk

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  • Luke AFB thunderbolt News coverage of VSPA visit -- Hector Ramos, VP-VSPA, Fri, Oct 23 2009, 18:22:28 PDT (c-68-39-53-181.hsd1.nj.comcast.net/68.39.53.181)
    For a downloadable PDF copy of the newspaper go to www.aerotechnews.com/lukeafb/
    and check on the 10/16/09 edition.

    Comments (I'm sure they'd like to hear from you)can be made to the editors by emailing luke.thunderbolt@luke.af.mil

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  • Luke AFB/Reunion -- Jim Costello, Thu, Oct 22 2009, 17:11:30 PDT (cache-ntc-ac10.proxy.aol.com/207.200.116.139)
    With memories of the reunion still fresh in my mind, I searched the site of Luke AFB, and found a very nice article written about our visit with the troops. I know it was a special day for all of us. Their dedication to God, Country, Duty is an inspiration this old vet will not soon forget. What we left behind so long ago, is indeed in excellent hands today.

    Having the opportunity to visit with the troops the past two years, and being a member of the VSPA almost as long, has reinstilled in me the Air Force pride I once had in more years than I care to remember. My heartfelt thanks to all of you, and to the BRAVE men and women of todays Air Force. May God Bless them, protct them, and bring them home safe to us.

    Just copy and past the link below. Enjoy!


    http://www.luke.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123173200

    Jim Costello LM#552

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  • plaque -- Rich Nucifora LM 220 (honored), Thu, Oct 22 2009, 14:13:04 PDT (76-250-236-46.lightspeed.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net/76.250.236.46)
    Today in the mail,I received a plaque from MY BROTHERS in VSPA, for my part in helping maintain THE WALL. Thank you all so much for the honor. I accept it, not only for myself, but on behalf of my brother and niece. They came because they felt it was a way to thank us all, especially the 111 of our brothers that didn't come home.
    If you ever have a chance to make it to THE WALL and help clean it once, you'll want to go back. It's a great healing process.
    Thank you again.

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  • Malaria Pills -- Steve Hall, Thu, Oct 22 2009, 9:22:20 PDT (adsl-68-120-85-228.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net/68.120.85.228)
    I posted this on the FFZ BB, but didn't get any response.
    Maybe it wasn't getting seen there, so I'll post it here, too.

    Prior to the reunion, I was trading e-mails with a certain person who is known for wearing Hawaiian shirts at the reunion. We were "discussing" our experiences involving malaria pills...The discussion got pretty funny in an unusual way, so I am presenting a new topic that I am sure will be enlightening and maybe even terrifying.

    The topic: What is the worst experience or memory you have involving malaria pills? You can cite your own worst experience or an experience that happened to another person. Asking you to "keep it clean" doesn't seem to make much sense with this topic, but you get the idea.

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  • Viet Nam Stats -- Carl L Chamberlin LM#504 Phu Cat 67/68, Tue, Oct 20 2009, 6:15:56 PDT (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
    Received this last night from a fellow Nam Vet,,,,,,,
    Thought this might interest you. I was surprised by some of the data. Share this with your Vietnam Veteran friends. They might be interested in knowing this interesting information.
    In case you haven't been paying attention these past few decades after you returned from Vietnam, the clock has been ticking. The following are some statistics that are at once depressing yet in a larger sense should give you a huge sense of pride.

    "Of the 2,709,918 Americans who served in Vietnam, Less than 850,000 are estimated to be alive today, with the youngest American Vietnam veteran's age approximated to be 54 years old." How does it feel to be among the last third of all the Vietnam Veterans who served in Vietnam to be alive? I don't know about you guys, but it kind of gives me the chills.

    Considering the kind of information available about the death rate of WWII and Korean War Veterans, publicized information indicates that in the last 14 years Vietnam veterans are dying at the rate of 390 deaths each day. At this rate there will be only a few of us alive in 2015.

    These statistics were taken from a variety of sources to include: The VFW Magazine, the Public Information Office, and the HQ CP Forward Observer - 1st Recon April 12, 1997.

    STATISTICS FOR INDIVIDUALS IN UNIFORM AND IN COUNTRY

    VIETNAM VETERANS


    1. 9,087,000 military personnel served on active duty during the Vietnam Era (Aug 5, 1964 - May 7, 1975).
    2 8,744,000 GIs were on active duty during the war (Aug 5, 1964 - March 28, 1973).
    3. 2,709,918 Americans served in Vietnam, this number represents 9.7% of their generation.
    4. 3,403,100 (Including 514,300 offshore) personnel served in the broader Southeast Asia Theater (Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, flight crews based in Thailand and sailors in adjacent South China Sea waters).
    5. 2,594,000 personnel served within the borders of South Vietnam (Jan. 1, 1965 - March 28, 1973). Another 50,000 men served in Vietnam between 1960 and 1964.
    6. Of the 2.6 million, between 1-1.6 million (40-60%) either fought in combat, provided close support or were at least fairly regularly exposed to enemy attack.
    7. 7,484 women (6,250 or 83.5% were nurses) served in Vietnam.
    8. Peak troop strength in Vietnam: 543,482 (April 30, 1968).

    CASUALTIES

    1. The first man to die in Vietnam was James Davis, in 1958. He was with the 509th Radio Research Station. Davis Station in Saigon was named for him.
    2. Non-hostile deaths: 10,800
    3. Total: 58,202 (Includes men formerly classified as MIA and Mayaguez casualties). Men who have subsequently died of wounds account for the changing total.
    4. 8 nurses died -- 1 was KIA.
    5. 61% of the men killed were 21 or younger.
    6. 11,465 of those killed were younger than 20 years old.
    7. Of those killed, 17,539 were married.
    8. Average age of men killed: 23.1 years
    9. Enlisted: 50,274 - 22.37 years
    10. Officers: 6,598 - 28.43 years
    11. Warrants: 1,276 - 24.73 years
    12. E1: 525 - 20.34 years
    13. 11B MOS: 18,465 - 22.55 years
    14. Five men killed in Vietnam were only 16 years old.
    15. The oldest man killed was 62 years old.
    16. 2,709,918 Americans served in Vietnam, 58,202 were KIA for a percentage of .0214%.
    17. 303,704 were wounded: 303,704. 153,329 were hospitalized.
    18. 150,375 were injured requiring no hospital care.
    19. 75,000 were severely disabled. 23,214 were 100% disabled. 5,283 lost limbs. 1,081 sustained multiple amputations.
    20. Amputation or crippling wounds to the lower extremities were 300% higher than in WWII and 70% higher than Korea.
    21. Multiple amputations occurred at the rate of 18.4% compared to 5.7% in WWII.
    22. Missing in Action: 2,338
    23. POWs: 766 (114 died in captivity)
    24. As of January 15, 2004, there are 1,875 Americans still unaccounted for from the Vietnam War.

    DRAFTEES VS VOLUNTEERS

    1. 25% (648,500) of total forces in country were draftees.
    2. 66% of U.S. armed forces members were drafted during WWII).
    3. Draftees accounted for 30.4% (17,725) of combat deaths in Vietnam.
    4. Reservists killed: 5,977
    5. National Guard: 6,140 served: 101 died.
    6. Total draftees (1965 - 73): 1,728,344.
    7. Actually served in Vietnam: 38%
    8. Marine Corps Draft: 42,633.
    9. Last man drafted: June 30, 1973.

    RACE AND ETHNIC BACKGROUND

    1. 88.4% of the men who actually served in Vietnam were Caucasian; 10.6% (275,000) were black; 1% belonged to other races.
    2. 86.3% of the men who died in Vietnam were Caucasian (includes Hispanics); 12.5% (7,241) were black; 1.2% belonged to other races.
    3. 170,000 Hispanics served in Vietnam; 3,070 (5.2% of total) died there.
    4.70% of enlisted men killed were of North-west European descent.
    5. 86.8% of the men who were killed as a result of hostile action were Caucasian; 12.1% (5,711) were black; 1.1% belonged to other races.
    6. 14.6% (1,530) of non-combat deaths were among blacks.
    7. 34% of blacks who enlisted volunteered for the combat arms.
    8. Overall, blacks suffered 12.5% of the deaths in Vietnam at a time when the percentage of blacks of military age was 13.5% of the total population.
    9. Religion of Dead: Protestant -- 64.4%; Catholic -- 28.9%; other/none -- 6.7%

    SOCIO-ECONOMIC STATUS

    1. Vietnam veterans have a lower unemployment rate than the same non-vet age groups.
    2. Vietnam veterans' personal income exceeds that of our non-veteran age group by more than 18 percent.
    3. 76% of the men sent to Vietnam were from lower middle/working class backgrounds.
    4. Three-fourths had family incomes above the poverty level; 50% were from middle income backgrounds.
    5. Some 23% of Vietnam vets had fathers with professional, managerial or technical occupations.
    6. 79% of the men who served in Vietnam had a high school education or better when they entered the military service. 63% of Korean War vets and only 45% of WWII vets had completed high school upon separation.
    7. Deaths by region per 100,000 of population: South -- 31%, West --29.9%; Midwest -- 28.4%; Northeast -- 23.5%.

    DRUG USAGE & CRIME

    1. There is no difference in drug usage between Vietnam Veterans and
    non-Vietnam Veterans of the same age group. (Source: Veterans
    Administration Study)
    2. Vietnam Veterans are less likely to be in prison - only one-half of one percent of Vietnam Veterans have been jailed for crimes.
    3. 85% of Vietnam Veterans made successful transitions to civilian life.

    WINNING & LOSING

    1. 82% of veterans who saw heavy combat strongly believe the war was lost because of lack of political will.
    2. Nearly 75% of the public agrees it was a failure of political will, not of arms.

    HONORABLE SERVICE

    1. 97% of Vietnam-era veterans were honorably discharged.
    2. 91% of actual Vietnam War veterans and 90% of those who saw heavy combat are proud to have served their country.
    3. 74% say they would serve again, even knowing the outcome.
    4. 87% of the public now holds Vietnam veterans in high esteem.

    INTERESTING CENSUS STATISTICS & THOSE TO CLAIM TO HAVE "BEEN THERE."

    1. 1,713,823 of those who served in Vietnam were still alive as of August, 1995 (census figures).
    2. During that same census count, the number of Americans falsely claiming to have served in-country was: 9,492,958.
    3. As of the current census taken during August, 2000, the surviving U.S. Vietnam Veteran population estimate is: 1,002,511. This is hard to believe, losing nearly 711,000 between '95 and '00. That's 390 per day.
    4. During this census count, the number of Americans falsely claiming to have served in-country is: 13,853,027. By this census, FOUR OUT OF FIVE WHO CLAIM TO BE VIETNAM VETS ARE NOT.
    5. The Department of Defense Vietnam War Service Index officially provided by The War Library originally reported with errors that 2,709,918 U.S. military personnel as having served in-country.
    6. Corrections and confirmations to this erred index resulted in the addition of 358 U.S. military personnel confirmed to have served in Vietnam but not originally listed by the Department of Defense. (All names are currently on file and accessible 24/7/365).
    7. Isolated atrocities committed by American Soldiers produced torrents of outrage from anti-war critics and the news media while Communist atrocities were so common that they received hardly any media mention at all.
    8. The United States sought to minimize and prevent attacks on civilians while North Vietnam made attacks on civilians a centerpiece of its strategy.
    9. Americans who deliberately killed civilians received prison sentences while Communists who did so received commendations.
    10. From 1957 to 1973, the National Liberation Front assassinated 36,725 Vietnamese and abducted another 58,499. The death squads focused on leaders at the village level and on anyone who improved the lives of the peasants such as medical personnel, social workers, and school teachers. - Nixon Presidential Papers.

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  • Flu in Arizona -- Newell M. swartz, Mon, Oct 19 2009, 10:22:41 PDT (71-36-186-129.phnx.qwest.net/71.36.186.129)
    I have read a few messages from folks who are concerned with flu exposure in Arizona, especially the one about the SSgt from the 56th who died from the flu. The man was assigned to the 56th Wing, not the 56th SFS and he had other complications which resulted in his death. I think everyone should follow their doctor's instructions as to whether they receive a flue shot or not. I intend to get one. Most of the flu cases in Arizona are rather mild and last about three-four days, which is why we see people who work in the service industries still working while they are sneezing, runny nose etc while waiting on customers. Newell

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  • FREE Adobe Products Updates -- Don Poss, Wed, Oct 21 2009, 17:51:55 PDT (cpe-75-82-158-38.socal.res.rr.com/75.82.158.38)
    Gents & Ladies:

    Once more it is time to take advantage of VSPA's Troubleshooting Pages
    and download the several recent FREE Adobe Products Updates
    <http://www.vspa.com/aspprotect/vspa-troubleshooting.asp> . I recommend
    that all IExplorer users do so asap as VSPA's website uses the current
    versions of these products.

    Note: Make sure to check or uncheck optional boxes that may install a
    Google Toolbar or offer to check your system for errors (I uncheck those
    boxes).

    Questions?: Feel free to email VSPA's guru and ace QRTroubleshooter (and
    general missile-target), Gary Jones <mailto:garyandjj@hotmail.com> .

    Don Poss,
    VSPA Webmaster

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  • New Member Introduction -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Tue, Oct 20 2009, 18:13:44 PDT (97-120-111-171.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.111.171)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Mark Johnson to membership in the VSPA. Mark served as a dog handler at Nakhon Phanom in 1972-73, and currently lives in Pennsylvania. He found out about us through another SP.

    Yes I will be telling him all about the reunion he just missed, and sending him a bunch of pictures!

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • Mission...COMPLETED.."Waving Nurse" -- William R Paddock 56th SPS (1968) VSPA LM205, Thu, Oct 15 2009, 14:37:32 PDT (adsl-074-245-198-228.sip.cae.bellsouth.net/74.245.198.228)
    I met with Lt. Col Ruth SIDISON. this afternoon at Convenant Place nursing home. Sumter, South Carolina. Also there was Dee Rector, her friend and fellow nurse at TSN.
    I handed her each gift from all the members of the VSPA one at a time and she would exclaim and "cry" with each one.
    She has had a stroke and is fixing to go for more treatment at either Duke University or somewhere.
    She asked me to thank all of you for the gifts and she send her unqualified love to each and everyone of you.
    Dee Rector also sends her love, thanks and appreciation for thinking of her...mostly remembering her!!.
    I have taken about twenty pictures of this event so if you would like some let me know and I will email them to you.

    Best Always

    William R (Bill) Paddock
    VSPA LM #205
    VDHA Assoc Member # 16019
    56th Security Police Sq. Nakhon Phanom RTAFB (1968)

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  • Another Way to Support Our Troops -- Janet Matthews-Wise, Mon, Oct 19 2009, 16:57:29 PDT (24-196-19-136.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com/24.196.19.136)
    While surfing for hand warmers today, I came across the link below.

    Sounds like a plan to me! So, for all you tailgaters, hunters, skiiers, joggers etc. who use these disposable handwarmers, take a look.

    http://www.warmers.com/ShareWarmth.aspx

    P.S. these are great for pet beds too!

    Hugs!

    Janet

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