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Vietnam Security Police Association, Inc. (USAF)
Welcome Home to Vietnam Security Police Association, Inc.

The Vietnam Security Police Association, Inc. (USAF) is an association for USAF Vietnam War Veterans
who served in Vietnam or Thailand from 1960-1975 as Security / Air Police, or as an augmentee.
Please visit VSPA's BB Rules, Disclaimers, and Guidelines prior to posting a message or response.

All Questions or Comments to VSPA Bulletin Board Flight Leader Bill Marshall

Vietnam Security Police Association, Inc. (USAF)

  • New Member Introduction -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Wed, Jun 03 2009, 18:42:42 PDT (97-120-91-173.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.91.173)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Ron Gary to membership in the VSPA. Ron served at Binh Thuy in 1968-69, and now lives in Arizona. He found out about VSPA through our Amazing World-Class Binh Thuy VSPA Recruiters - Lew & Scotti Goldberg (Delta Devils!).

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • Another Life Member -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Thu, Jun 04 2009, 18:09:46 PDT (97-120-91-105.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.91.105)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in congratulating Ken Smith on becoming VSPA Life Member #570. Ken served at Phu Cat and Da Nang in 1971-72, and now lives in California. He joined VSPA exactly one year ago yesterday.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

    p.s. Can you believe it? Five Hundred and Seventy? Wow ....

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  • A very Patriotic Video -- Bill Lauchlan LM494, Mon, Jun 01 2009, 3:43:37 PDT (ip-64-202-160-161.secureserver.net/64.202.160.161)
    This is an excellent video that we should share with everyone.

    http://www.bornagainamerican.org/

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  • WD Memorial 2000 -- Pat Dunne/Hawk, Fri, Jun 05 2009, 8:57:28 PDT (NoHost/208.62.255.63)
    WOW! or WOOF, I should say. I just now got to watch the video of the dedication in 2000 at Riverside. I was there that rainy, windy day. Very powerful to watch the old Dogmen 'pet the pooch'. Very nice memory. Hawk

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  • DDAY Memorial Documentary -- Ed Narwid, Thu, Jun 04 2009, 14:09:11 PDT (NoHost/67.72.98.57)
    For those that live in the Roanoke area of Virginia etc. or have the ability to watch Chennel 7 out of Roanoke at 730PM
    they will air a Documentary about the National DDay Memorial and the Bedford Boys from Bedford,Va.
    If you get a chance to watch it please do as it is heartwarming and a great part of history.

    Also those attending our Mini Reunion in August here in Roanoke Virginia will have a chance to purchase DVDs etc about the DDay memorial as well as collectibles etc from the gift shop there when we tour the complex.
    Make sure you bring your cameras as it will be a very memorable experience for all.

    Mini reunion committee- Ed Narwid,Sam Lewis,Jerry Walker

    and of course our wives.

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  • D Day Observances this Weekend -- Sam Lewis, Tue, Jun 02 2009, 3:15:39 PDT (pool-72-66-185-161.ronkva.east.verizon.net/72.66.185.161)
    You know after I mentioned the fact that after a whirlwind of activity the last three or so weekends we might have one to relaxe . Forget about that. This comming weekend iS the celebration of the D Day Invasion at the Memorial in Bedford , Va..

    As we know in SW Virginia the Memorial was place in Beford, va. because it had the most casualties per capita by far of any community in the country . The majority of the members of a small town Bedford , Va. National Guard Unit was wiped out diring the first wave to hit the beach at Operation Overlord during the invasion. The Town of Bedford was hit very hard by the loses .


    My group affiliated with the local UAW Ride Veterans will be escorting a Surviving D Day Veteran to the Memorial where he will be joining a Dwindling Group of other WW11 DDay Related Veterans which will most likely be the last such reunion for the majority of them with a day full of ceremony. Check out the activities at www.dday.org sam

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  • Post Check -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Thu, Jun 04 2009, 0:49:57 PDT (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
    Has anyone got the main gate covered?

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  • The Wall That Heals (Vietnam Veterans Memorial) -- Larry K. Dunbar, Wed, Jun 03 2009, 18:04:36 PDT (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
    I witnessed an emotional event yesterday..The Wall That Heals is coming to Johnson City TN (about 15 Miles from my home) June 4-7. Upon hearing that the caravan was close to my home..my wife, granddaughter and I drove so that we could see it pass. The memorial was escorted by more than 300 motorcycles (POW/MIA Advocacy group Rolling Thunder and another 40 to 50 vehicles behind it as it traveled to its destination to Johnson City. The paper also reported that tons of people lined the sides of the road to see the escort. I have seen the Vietnam memorial in Washington DC and also the travelling memorial in Virgina. I had such a warm feeling as I made my way home and I have so many cherished memories of my tour in Vietnam. Thank you guys for serving our country and Welcome Home.

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  • Very Buisy Fullfilling Last 3 Days -- Sam Lewis, Sun, May 31 2009, 15:38:25 PDT (pool-72-66-185-161.ronkva.east.verizon.net/72.66.185.161)
    After a whirlwind of riding almost 600 miles back and forth in driving rain and beating sun and standing up for our two recently departed heroes with the PGR I can say MISSIONS ACCOMPLISHED . The families and communities were very grateful for our being there with them. AAs always these missions are heartbreaking but very gratifying to us..

    May the souls of 1st Lt. Leevi Bernard, 28 of Ararat , Va. KIA near Bagdad , Iraq , and CWO4 BlackHawk Pilot Brent S. Cole 38 of Kingwood ,WV Killed when his helicotor went down in Afganistan REST IN ETERAL PEACE . sam

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  • Elks War Dog Article - Cold Nose, Brave Heart -- Jack, Tue, Jun 02 2009, 11:31:41 PDT (bc.bcconverting.com/24.97.113.162)
    I got a hold of the May issue from a Elk member and scanned it in so everyone would get a chance to view it. It's not the best quality but it's readable. hopefully the link will work! http://ow.ly/aEYO

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  • Movie -- Jim Costello LM552, Fri, May 29 2009, 16:03:08 PDT (cache-ntc-ac10.proxy.aol.com/207.200.116.139)
    Received this link "Warriors the Film" from a friend. Has anyone seen or heard about this movie? After watching the trailer to it, I'm not sure I could sit through the whole thing if purchased. It stired the pot too much. Seems more for those who have never served. We already know the sacrifices one must make, and have indeed made them. Perhaps I'm being too critical of the movie with the little that was shown. Then again, maybe the short clip was just enough.

    Jim Costello LM 552


    Here is a DVD that tells what our soldiers think of the sacrifices the military makes for the US and how they feel about making those sacrifices.

    http://www.warriorsthefilm.com/Movie.html

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    • Re: Movie -- John Boyer, Sat, May 30 2009, 16:16:25 PDT (static.unknown.charter.com/75.133.151.56)
    • Re: Movie -- Erlyce Pekas, Mon, Jun 01 2009, 11:45:43 PDT (97-124-101-151.phnx.qwest.net/97.124.101.151)

  • Washing The Wall -- Gary Jones, LM-363, Mon, May 25 2009, 15:32:56 PDT (cpe-098-025-046-219.sc.res.rr.com/98.25.46.219)
    The Today Show ran a short piece this morning about Vietnam Vets who come to was THE Wall. At the end, I recognized two of our VSPA members. Unless my eyesight is failing me, Willie Squires and Chaplain Jim Stastny are shown saluting as their job was finished. I only get to make it to DC a couple of times a year to participate in this honor but Willie and Jim are there many times every year, "taking care of their own." View the clip at:
    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/30929219#30929219

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  • Reunion Mini Roanoke, Va -- Ed Narwid, Sun, May 31 2009, 13:21:53 PDT (67-72-98-45.propel.com/67.72.98.45)
    We still have rooms available for those wishing to attend the Mini Reunion we are holding in Roanoke,Va -
    Arrival will be Friday 8/14/09 and departure will be Snay 8/16/09.
    Special room rate for us is $84.00 a night .

    There is a free shuttle for pick up at the Roanoke airport.

    Friday night we will have a welcome party for all attending. and then Saturday morning we will head for the National D-Day memorial located in Bedford, Va. We will then have lunch at the Peaks of Otter Lodge located on the Blue Ridge parkway and after lunch travel the Blue ridge parkway with stops at the scenic overlooks.
    We will head to the Mill Mt. park that overlooks the Roanoke Valley.
    Saturday dinner will be at one of the restaurants located in the Roanoke area (the restaurant will be picked once we see how many will be attending the reunion).

    After dinner we can spend the evening in the Historic Downtown Roanoke area which has been restored and now has many nightclubs etc.

    Sunday will be a day of whatever anyone wants to do as many will be departing to head home.

    We are looking forward to many of you attending that can as this will be a good time to meet new friends and also see your old friends.

    We all have a closeness as a family as we were all skycops in Viet-Nam.

    We may have a few guest speakers that flew missions in Viet-Nam if we have enough attending the reunion I will put a tighter grab on them to speak.

    To make reservations you can Call the Comfort Inn at 540-527-2020 and mention the reservation is for the Viet-Nam Security Police Association Reunion.
    Friday August 14 to Sunday August 16th.
    Special room rate is $84.00 per night.

    This is a smoke free hotel. There is an outdoor pool available as well as an indoor pool at the sister hotel nextdoor.
    Excellent Free hot and cold Continental Breakfast (You can fill up in the morning).

    The rooms that are still available in our reserved block of rooms will only be available untill July 14,2009. I may be able to get an extension if needed.

    Upon making your reservation please send me an e-mail letting me know and how many will be in your party.

    Lets all make this a great first reunion as we hope to have many more in the future as there are alot of different things we can arrange to do in this area.
    Thank you and look forward to seeing all at the reunion.

    Reunion committee-

    Ed Narwid,Sam Lewis,Jerry Walker and our wives.

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  • What Is Stress ? -- chaplain steve, Sat, May 30 2009, 19:48:27 PDT (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
    What Is Stress ?

    What is stress ?
    Stress is never feeling safe for a year.
    What is stress?
    It is watching your buddies age over night and wondering if they think the same about you.
    What is stress ?
    It is wondering if your weapon will jam just when you need it the most.
    What is stress ?
    It is hearing a rocket come over the perimeter missing your area then feeling guilty because it puts someone else at risk.
    What is stress ?
    It is chambering a round and praying you don't have to shoot.
    What is stress ?
    It is not planning for the future because it can't be seen.
    What is stress ?
    It is wondering what it is like to die and if you will ever see your family and friends again.
    What is stress ?
    It is working 15 days in a row because there are not enough men and too many posts.
    What is stress ?
    It is working the post you hate the most because it is the least secure and most vulnerable one for being attacked.
    What is stress ?
    It is a feeling of hopelessness when good friends leave to go home before you. You are glad they are going then mad they are going but you don't know why.
    What is stress ?
    It is hoping you get mail then not being able to write back how you really feel.
    What is stress ?
    It is burying all your anger, mistrust, and resentments for many years until you find a safe place to slowly let it out with others who know what you are saying
    and talking about.
    Stress from war is all that and more. Each one has a war unique to their very own experience. A traumatic experience magnifies the stress that has been buried. To all the new guys welcome home. You can let down your guard here..

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  • A Brother's Passing -- David Thatcher, Sat, May 30 2009, 11:10:11 PDT (h-68-165-179-204-static.lsanca54.covad.net/68.165.179.204)
    Another Skycop has left us. Richard E. "Rick" Stephens recently passed away following a lengthy illness. Rick's wife doesn't know much about his service, particularly his Vietnam service, but does know that he was one of us somewhere in-country (he evidently didn't speak much of it). His service dates were from May of 1970 to May of 1974 and she thinks his last duty assignment was with the 90th Missile Security Squadron (SAC) at Francis E. Warren AFB, Wyoming. Apparently he lived in Knoxville, TN after discharge. If anyone remembers Rick, you might want to post as I've advised his wife of the website and I'm sure she would appreciate it.

    David Thatcher LM #510
    377th SPS TSN '67-'68

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  • Other Bases -- Jim Burke 366 SPS LM 466, Tan My, Tue, May 26 2009, 7:46:01 PDT (99-4-70-162.lightspeed.bkfdca.sbcglobal.net/99.4.70.162)
    Okay all your historians, how many bases or stations have the USAF AP/SP/SFS provided security for or still providing security? At Tan My, it was a Coast Guard Station, with a Ljg Commander in charge but the Air Force was the sole security provider for the base. Was Dong Ha the same way or did the Air Force only provided security for their portion of the base, like it was at Da Nang when the Marines and later the ARVN guarded part of the perimeter?

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  • Another Life Member! -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Wed, May 27 2009, 18:16:14 PDT (75-175-38-242.ptld.qwest.net/75.175.38.242)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in congratulating Patrick McGuffie on becoming VSPA Life Member #565. Pat served at NKP in 1971-72, and now lives in Pennsylvania. He's been a VSPA member for about six years.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • New Member Introduction -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Sun, May 24 2009, 9:14:57 PDT (97-120-111-32.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.111.32)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Pete Lutz to membership in the VSPA. Pete served as an Augmentee at Phan Rang in 1968-69, and now lives in Wisconsin. He found us through our explosively informative website.

    You all probably know that it's frequently difficult for guys who served alongside us as Augmentees to prove they did that. There's never anything on a guy's DD-214, so Augmentee applicants are usually scratching to find some other paperwork that oh-by-the-way mentions their Augmentee duty. Well, Pete set a new high for documentation; he submitted a copy of a Letter of Appreciation from his squadron commander citing his "outstanding efforts as an Augmentee Security Policeman ... accepting responsibility for the defense of this base during emergency conditions."

    Now THAT'S a demonstration of outstanding leadership from a supply squadron Lt. Colonel who made the extra effort to give one of his troops something lasting, instead of a pat on the head - or nothing at all - for stepping up.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • New Member Introduction -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Sun, May 24 2009, 17:42:05 PDT (97-120-111-32.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.111.32)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Chris Collier to membership in the VSPA. Chris served at Phan Rang in 1969-70, and now lives in Florida. He says he learned of the VSPA by discovering the enlightening eye-candy that is our website.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • Prayer Requested -- Sam Lewis, Thu, May 28 2009, 9:57:47 PDT (pool-71-254-38-170.roa.east.verizon.net/71.254.38.170)
    Please be in prayer for these precious families for strenght and for our safety as we travel back and forth this weekend with the Patriot Guard Riders . We will be staging at the Welcome Center on I 77 down on the NC LINE at 11 am Friday where we will take up the escort from the NC PGR which started Ft . Bragg with the remains of one of our fallen in Afganistan through Va. taking them to the WVa line where the WVa will escort them to the final destination in WVa.
    We are also standing by for final orders to escort the body of another of our heros killed in Iraq from Greensboro, NC Airport to Mt Airy ,NC for viewing and then the funeral in neighboring Aarat,(Patrick Co. Va.) Plans have not been finalized but it looks like all this might very well happen this weekend. Looks like we might be in for be a buisy time with about 300 miles riding.. Its been raining all week here but hopefully all that will move out by tomorrow. Thks, sam

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  • Texas flag problem up date -- Jack Smith 377th SPS 68-69 LM 543, Fri, May 29 2009, 4:22:32 PDT (adsl-75-42-219-173.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net/75.42.219.173)
    Guys I posted the wrong email address for Ms Williams in Texas. Sorry Here is the corret one. Jack


    Kindred Hospital-Mansfield
    http://www.kindredmansfield.com/
    Mansfield, Texas 76063
    (817) 473-6101

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  • Disrespect for American Flag IN TEXAS! -- Steve Hall, Thu, May 28 2009, 14:54:12 PDT (ppp-68-120-82-215.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net/68.120.82.215)
    I just read about a situation at the Kindred Hospital in Mansfield, Texas where an office worker was ordered to remove the American flag from her office because someone complained about it. This evidently happened over Memorial Day weekend. I just finished writing a letter of complaint to the cowardly hospital administrator that ordered the flag removed. I hope many of you will also write letters to her, expressing your opinion about how she has shown disrespect for the flag and all it stands for. This is her name and address:
    Ms. Rhonda Y. Williams
    Administrator
    Kindred Hospital-Mansfield
    1802 Highway 157 North
    Mansfield, TX 76063

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  • 39th Anniversary of May 23 1971 -- Chaplain Steve, Thu, May 28 2009, 20:45:03 PDT (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
    First Firefight

    I caught him in the lights.. the whole war seemed to stop
    As I aimed and put him in my sights.
    I could stop him but would I give my position away.
    Should I squeeze a few off or should I wait here and stay?
    Are there others I do not see listening for noise so they can overrun me?.
    How long do I wait.. has someone got me in his sights?
    This is the part of war that I hate.
    He looks to the right...spots me and dives behind some bushes and hits the ground.
    The next morning a huge pool of blood at that exact spot was found.
    I can still see his face. He looked so very young.
    Sometimes I wonder if he knows that his side won
    And does it matter to him.
    Cecil, Ski, Billy and Skull: Thanks for being there for me.

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  • Youi know its a funny thing when...... -- Joe Pizzimenti LM 557 (Memories), Sat, May 23 2009, 9:56:36 PDT (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
    You know its a funny thing when events happening NOW, take you back to Nam. I was in the ASrmy stationed in Panama as an MP in the 193rd Infantry for 3 years prior to joining the USAF, and experienced several Monsoon seasons out in the bush and while at JWTC(Jungle Warfare Training).........but nothing to compare with the monsoon in Nam.I was in an AP/SP Unit that worked mostly outside the wire at Bien Hoa and DaNang)
    Here in Florida, it has rained 26 ins in 7 days and Daytona Beach is flooded...I found myself staring out the window at the rain coming down in sheets, and traveling in my mind back to Nam durning the monsoon season.,,Strange...not Panama but Nam.
    Once, a while ago, the Wife and I went to Key Largo for a week(in the Keys) and took a walking tour of the mangrove swamps...I had to back out..the smell of rotting plants and the dark damp swamps sort of played with my mind...to this day I can't handel the smell of rotting vegitation.
    I guess its something we may all have to overcome....
    Anyone else ever experience something like this ? Or am I 3 cans short of a six pack.?

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  • New Air Force -- Mike Winn LM 259 KY, Thu, May 28 2009, 5:00:00 PDT (adsl-80-49-84.owb.bellsouth.net/98.80.49.84)
    link to read about new Air Force from Military.com

    http://www.military.com/news/article/air-force-news/af-announces-combat-restructure-plan.html?ESRC=airforce.nl

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  • Why Life Memberships? -- Don Poss, Fri, May 22 2009, 13:23:55 PDT (pool-71-118-61-240.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.118.61.240)
    Gents & Ladies:

    I am still amazed at how the Life Membership program is still going strong! With 564 LMembers now, we will likely hit 600 in the coming months.

    Originally, and for years, members kept asking about why VSPA didn't have a life membership program. In time, we decided to offer it, and see if it would work for our members. It did, and how!

    Annual members occasionally ask if the LMembers get a special decoder-ring or something that gives them secret access to "stuff". The answer is a simple, No. LM is simply the best long range membership price for those who want it, and doesn't make "us" better than anyone or more special. Phil Carroll/Membership will quickly correct me if I am wrong, but I think "payments" for LM is a consideration, should someone want to make a couple of payments rather than coughing up the full amount for their age-group.

    So why purchase a Life Membership? When it started, we were up to LMember #36 before I decided "I want one of those!" It is a life commitment from me to you and VSPA. When I'm too old and forgetful to remember to renew a membership, my LM will still be there, and maybe someone will wonder whatever happened to that old crotchity fart and give me a call, or email, or whatever tech they have in the future.

    So. I like being a LM of VSPA. No extra whistles and bells...just a life committment to our Brotherhood.

    :-)

    PS: My car is ready, at the car wash (and yes, I found the computer room).

    Don Poss,
    VSPA LM# 37

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  • AF Security Training -- Bob Hubbard, Wed, May 27 2009, 15:58:19 PDT (nc-71-55-74-35.dhcp.embarqhsd.net/71.55.74.35)
    http://www.af.mil/shared/widgets/popup.asp?url=http://www.af.mil/shared/xml/rssVideo.asp?mrsstype=2&id=1&cid=3&cnt=12&pos=0

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  • Memorial Day -- chaplain steve, Wed, May 27 2009, 14:52:03 PDT (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
    A MEMORIAL DAY TRIBUTE
    author unknown


    I watched the flag
    Pass by one day,
    It fluttered in the breeze.
    A young Marine
    Saluted it,
    And then he stood at ease..
    I looked at
    Him in uniform
    So young, so tall, so proud,
    With hair cut square
    And eyes alert
    He ' d stand out in any crowd.
    I thought how many men
    Like him
    Had fallen through the years.
    How many died on foreign
    Soil
    How many mothers ' tears?
    How many pilots ' planes
    Shot down?
    How many died at sea
    How many foxholes were soldiers '
    Graves ?
    No, freedom isn ' t free
    I heard the sound of Taps
    One night,
    When everything was still,
    I listened to the bugler
    Play
    And felt a sudden chill.
    I wondered just how many times
    That Taps had meant ' Amen, '
    When a flag had draped a
    Coffin.
    Of a brother or a friend.
    I thought of all the
    Children,
    Of the mothers and the wives,
    Of fathers, sons and
    Husbands
    With interrupted lives.
    I Thought about a graveyard
    At the bottom of the sea
    Of unmarked graves in
    Arlington .
    No, freedom isn ' t free.
    Enjoy Your Freedom
    &God Bless Our Troops
    sj

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  • Support for a Brother -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Tue, May 26 2009, 18:58:24 PDT (97-120-111-32.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.111.32)
    Today I got a note from VSPA member Bob Van de Riet, NKP 1971-72, letting me know that his wife passed away just a few months ago. With his permission, I'm posting this to let the membership know. You may wish to send him a message of condolence or friendship; he's a Brother going through a terrible loss.

    It's what we do.

    Welcome Home,

    Phil

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  • A Note About Our Brotherhood -- Steve Gattis, Past President, Sat, May 16 2009, 14:21:39 PDT (h72.5.172.72.ip.alltel.net/72.172.5.72)
    Hello to all.

    I just got home from Portland, Oregon, where my wife and I said our goodbye to our son, Jeff, who is deploying to Iraq. He is a military police captain in the 41st Special Troops Battalion of the 41st Infantry Brigade Combat Team. We were full of emotions regarding the deployment. Jeff's eight year commitment was complete, yet he volunteered to go to be with his troops. We understand that commitment and are intensely proud of him. When we dropped him off, I went away with a deeper understanding of what my parents went through 41 years ago when I volunteerd to go to Vietnam on a direct PCS from Korea. Although they talked about it with me, I never really got it until I watched Jeff walk away.

    While we were in Portland, we also had the opportunity to visit with Phil Carroll, a dear friend and a man who lives our motto We Take Care of Our Own. Phil attended the deployment ceremony with us and took some photographs that are an extraordinary treasure. They are better than we could have ever hoped for and something we could not have done as we watched the deployment ceremony and focused on our son.

    As we made the long drive home to Texas and stayed in hotels across the country, Phil planted photos as breadcrumbs in our email, something for us to look forward to each day. They made all the difference.

    When a friend and brother does so much for you, there is no way to ever really thank him that will be adequate. A simple thank youy will never be enough. Phil has our never ending thanks and will always be known as the man who made a huge difference in our lives when we were more than a little numb.

    My best to all of you and a BIG BIG THANK YOU to Phil.

    Steve

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  • FYI -- Ed Cottrell Binh Thuy K-9 65-66, Sat, May 16 2009, 23:54:00 PDT (83.houston-04rh16rt.tx.dial-access.att.net/12.73.99.83)
    JUST FYI:
    AT 5 MINUTES AND 6 SECONDS AFTER 4 A.M., ON 8TH OF JULY, THIS YEAR, THE TIME AND DATE WILL BE: 04:05:06 07-08-09.
    THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN, UNTIL THE YEAR 3009.

    I AM ALSO REMINDED, ON THIS DATE, 43 YEARS AGO (-3 HOURS),
    WE LOST A BROTHER AP AT BINH THUY, A1C MILLARD LEHMAN.

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    • Re: FYI -- Erlyce Pekas, Wed, May 27 2009, 9:34:14 PDT (97-124-101-151.phnx.qwest.net/97.124.101.151)

  • A bit of good news this Memorial Day -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Mon, May 25 2009, 12:24:23 PDT (97-120-111-32.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.111.32)
    Brothers and Sisters,

    An old friend just made my day. I got a call this morning from my Brother and very dear friend Alexander Liverano, Takhli and NKP 1970-71, who just a couple weeks ago went through some extremely tough surgery. He's had some painful complications and a prolonged recovery, but he's finally showing some slow improvement. He wasn't able to talk for long, but he specifically asked me to thank all of you for the prayers and messages and for just having him in your thoughts when he needed all the help he could get.

    I thank you as well.

    Happy Memorial Day, and Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • A Blessed Event -- Chaplain Jim, Tue, May 26 2009, 19:10:51 PDT (pool-71-126-149-39.washdc.fios.verizon.net/71.126.149.39)
    Well Boys and Girls, I returned from Chicago a few hours ago. Last Friday evening I had the privilege of performing the wedding of my youngest daughter. What a great time. I surprised myself, I thought I would blubber all the way through, only choked-up once. Well, one down two to go!

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  • Dave Gudes, VSPA LM#64..on "Today Show" NBC -- William R Paddock VSPA LM #205, Mon, May 25 2009, 7:04:44 PDT (adsl-074-245-198-228.sip.cae.bellsouth.net/74.245.198.228)
    One of our own, Dave Gudes, VSPA LM #64, was just shown on the "Today Show" (NBC) with the team that cares for the "Vietnam Memorial Wall" in Washington D.C.. Dave was shown 2 or 3 times in the feature.

    I wish to personally give Dave a "HAND SALUTE" for all his tireless efforts to keep the wall as beautiful and pristeen. There was another one of our own but I did not see himclearly enough to give him the recoginition he also deserves...HAND SALUTE to him also.

    You have to admire thier dedication to duty and country to go the "WALL" so many times to keep it beautiful.

    Thanks Guys..YOU ARE GREAT!!


    Best Always

    William R (Bill) Paddock
    VSPA LM #205
    VDHA Assoc. Member #16019
    56th Security Police Sq., Nakhon Phanom RTAFB (1968)

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  • Gone but not forgotten -- Jim Burke 366 SPS LM 466, Tan My, Tue, May 26 2009, 7:40:48 PDT (99-4-70-162.lightspeed.bkfdca.sbcglobal.net/99.4.70.162)
    Memorial Day has gone for now, but to us it will not be forgotten. I will remember this Memorial Day more then others I think as I was informed on Thurday and Friday of last week that two retired deputies that I worked with in the Sheriff's Dept for Santa Barbara CO had passed away. Both were Army Veterans and one, Jack Edgar, was a Vietnam Vet. Once Jack found out that I had served in Nam, he did not care if it wasn't the Army, he would call me atleast once a week while we were working just to chat. Jack really cared for his men and his nick name was Tactical Jack, as deputy safety was number one. Jim "Bud" Means was a great friend who was my partner on most of my callouts when we were on the bomb squad. Bud and I were like two peas on a pod. They will be remembered for their outstanding service to the citizens of Santa Barbara County and by me for not only being friends, but fellow veterans. Rest in peace my brothers.

    Jim Burke

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  • STANDING BY FORT RIDING ORDERS -- Sam Lewis, Tue, May 26 2009, 5:40:21 PDT (pool-71-254-38-170.roa.east.verizon.net/71.254.38.170)
    Another of our local SW Va. finest has sacrificed his life for our freedom in Iraq. Please keep this precious family and us in your prayers as we prepare to honor and stand with them. Never gets any easier. sam


    BREAKING NEWS: Patrick soldier killed in Iraq

    Friday, May 22, 2009
    By GINNY WRAY - Bulletin Staff Writer
    First Lt. Leevi Khole Barnard, 28, of Ararat in Patrick County, has been killed in action while serving on his third tour of duty in Iraq, according to his grandfather, Thomas L. Barnard of Ararat.
    Barnard said the family was notified of the death at midnight Thursday. He said they have few details of the incident, except that there were eight servicemen involved and three were killed. He was not sure when or where the incident occurred.
    Barnard was the son of Pamela Jane Barnard Payne of Patrick County, the daughter of Thomas Barnard and his wife, Daisy Barnard.
    First Lt. Barnard went to Blue Ridge Elementary School and graduated from Patrick County High School in 1998, according to a release from Patrick County School Superintendent Roger Morris.
    Thomas Barnard said his grandson was in JROTC in high school and then worked and also went to school after he graduated. He had been in the military for several years, Barnard said.
    “It is difficult to imagine the loss to our community, particularly at a time of remembering our fallen soldiers,” Morris wrote Friday.
    Morris has ordered that the flags at all Patrick County schools be lowered to half-staff until Barnard’s burial. He also requested that a moment of silence in the schools on Tuesday be dedicated in Barnard’s memory.

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  • Membership card -- Milton Gottlieb, Mon, May 25 2009, 7:37:18 PDT (c-68-32-3-254.hsd1.nj.comcast.net/68.32.3.254)
    Have not received my card. How long does it take? Thanks and welcome home brother.

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  • Memorial Day -- Neil Kessler, Mon, May 25 2009, 8:59:29 PDT (pool-96-254-185-50.tampfl.fios.verizon.net/96.254.185.50)
    I just wanted to say that I hope every has a good day today in rememberence of those that have passed. I will be spending the day with my Native American brothers and will be singing veteran songs around the drum, smoking the pipe and passing on stories of those that have gone before us. All of you enjoy and have a good one.

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  • Rolling Thunder -- Sam Lewis, Mon, May 25 2009, 11:14:39 PDT (pool-71-254-38-170.roa.east.verizon.net/71.254.38.170)
    Ruth and I just got back from Rolling Thunder. The Wall area was packed with visitors Sunday Afternoon while we were there.THE WALL LOOKED GREAT. THKS FOR THE EFFORT OF THOSE WHO CLEANED IT LAST WEEK.. The Pentagon Parking was full of its usual 750,00 Riders and a second lot was opened and filled in a short while with over a 100,000 others. And they were afraid the economy would keep many away this yr.


    Hopefully ALL of our POW/MIAs will be accounted bringing way overdue closure but until thatshappens We Will Ride!

    Just got some bad news though when we arrived home, we lost another local hero in Iraq . Standing by for Riding orders WITH THAT. . Hope everyone had a peaceful and thankful Memorial Day. sam

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  • Poem from DC reunion 2007 -- Jack Smith 377th SPS 68-69 LM 453, Mon, May 25 2009, 8:47:27 PDT (adsl-75-60-190-130.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net/75.60.190.130)
    My first visit to the wall was at the 2007 DC reunion also my first reunion. I wrote this poem that afternoon when we returned to the hotel. Jack the Old Cowboy poet
    .
    RIBBON OF STONE
    Hearts fill with pain, from eyes tears fall
    When one gazes upon the Black Wall
    See the names of our fallen, one and all

    That black stone wall so solemn it stands
    A sobering tribute to military women and men
    The dark wall that makes us all kin

    Brothers and Sisters of a long ago war
    Of a time when we were young and tried to soar
    Giving all we had and than more

    Honor those who did not return
    Share the lessons we have learned
    Knowing that a heavenly reward, our fallen earned

    So stand before that Black Ribbon of Stone
    Read the names engraved of our own
    Who died to keep this great land our home

    Edwin J. Smith
    The Old Cowboy poet
    Nov 2007
    wwwpoetrypoem.com/theoldcowboy

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  • Memorial Day Poem -- Terry Sasek, Mon, May 25 2009, 7:57:37 PDT (d192-24-203-219.try.wideopenwest.com/24.192.219.203)
    Their Valor Will Never Be Forgotton

    There are times and places never forgotten
    People and events that have affected us all
    Some were that of a life and death struggle

    We have made friends for life with our buddies
    We had each others backs through long nights
    While searching the black abyss for the enemy

    You knew these guys to your right and left well
    They would have died for you as you for them too
    Our brothers doing their duty defending freedom

    An experience unlike any other the bond between warriors
    Knowing regardless of what happened they had you covered
    They fought like knights of old all for one and one for all

    These men were the best serving in the Air Force then
    They saw their duty clearly and carried out their mission
    It was because of these warriors that we came home alive

    They were young and they were determined to do their duty
    They stood their ground and never wavered once in battle
    They faced it all and their valor will never be forgotten

    Terry Sasek 2009

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  • Movie -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Wed, May 20 2009, 13:36:27 PDT (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
    I'm watching a movie on encord that is easy to identify with. It's "Article 99", about trying to get service at a VA Hospital.

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  • Memorial Day -- Mike Thomas, Mon, May 25 2009, 6:41:42 PDT (h98.90.90.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/75.90.90.98)
    Memorial Day to a Veteran

    Memorial Day is about the remembering,
    It is about the living.
    It’s about knowing that when everyone forgets;
    We will not be forgotten.

    Memorial Day is for our warriors
    Who tragically gave their life.
    From those of us who made no such sacrifice;
    You will not be forgotten.

    Memorial Day is a celebration
    For those at the Bar B Que.
    But to my brothers who aren’t here today,
    I know today is a gift from you.

    Mike Thomas
    LM564 TanMy1972

    Dedicated to:
    A1C Scott Birket
    My friend, My brother
    DOD 9.30.72
    DaNang RVN

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  • Post Check -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Mon, May 25 2009, 0:17:13 PDT (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
    It's 0310 hrs and quiet in the NW Corner of R.I.
    It's Memorial Day and along with those who gave heir lives for freedom, we can remember each other too.
    To all of you, may your Memorial Day be a memorable one.
    Enjoy the freedom you helped preserve and most of all enjoy the freedom.

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  • New Member Introduction -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Sat, May 23 2009, 14:50:53 PDT (97-120-199-121.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.199.121)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Pete Velsko to membership in the VSPA. Pete served as an Augmentee at Takhli in 1966-67, then did a second tour at Bien Hoa but did not get called on to serve as an Augmentee there. He now lives in Alaska, and found us through our superbly scintillating and enlightening website.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • Remembering Our K9 Wardogs and Their Handlers -- Chaplain Steve, Sun, May 24 2009, 19:37:40 PDT (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS7xW4Ux5mA&feature=related

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  • Passing Away of Another Sky Cop -- William (Pete) Piazza, LM #141, Sun, May 24 2009, 17:22:09 PDT (ip68-97-187-157.ok.ok.cox.net/68.97.187.157)
    Sad news to report in the passing away of a very good Officer that was with us at Bein Hoa AB during TET 68. Our prayers and condolences go out to the Seidlarz family. Pete

    Maj (ret) John Seidlarz, 66, of Easton, Maryland, passed away Tuesday April 21, 2009, at the University of Maryland Medical Center surrounded by his loving family.
    John was born Aug. 29, 1942, in the small coal-mining town of Shenandoah, Pa. His father, John Seidlarz, was a coal-miner and his mother, Mary (Uhas) Seidlarz, was a seamstress. As a young man he attended St. Charles Borromeo seminary in Philadelphia which instilled in him a life-long love and respect for his Catholic faith. Returning to Shenandoah, he graduated from Shenandoah Catholic High School as the student body president.

    He was an exemplary officer in the U S AIr Force where he served as a security police officer. He was a decorated Vietnam combat veteran. John was assigned to the 3rd Air Police Squadron at Bien Hoa, Republic of Vietnam. During the Tet Offensive in January 1968. his squadron decidedly defeated an attack by a large North Vietnam attacking force. After his retirement from the AIr Force he became a pioneer in the research for new technologies in personal identification.

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  • Memorial Day -- Don Angerame LM 455, Sun, May 24 2009, 6:58:39 PDT (ool-4575e5a7.dyn.optonline.net/69.117.229.167)
    This, like every year, is a special time for me and what's left of my family. We have always answered the call and have paid the ultimate price. My Uncle Pete,a sailor,my Fathers brother died in the Battle for Midway, Uncle Joe, a Marine,my Mothers youngest Brother died somewhere at Makin Atoll in the Pacific. Another of her Brothers, also a Marine, died somewhere in Korea. Add to that I lost my best friend who I grew up with. You will not find his name on the Wall because he died upon his return home from Vietnam. One day he was overcome and just took his own life.
    So Memorial Days is a time to pay our respects to all our Brothers, to honor them for they have made the ultimate sacrifice. I fly the flag year round but tomorrow it will be at half-mast
    Several years ago I went to the Wall for Memorial Day and for the first time since I came home.....I wept

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    • Re: Memorial Day -- J P, Sun, May 24 2009, 16:17:41 PDT (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)

  • HAPPY MEMORIAL DAY EVERYONE! SHOW YOUR COLORS! -- Larry Breazeale, Msgt.(ret.)USAF, Fri, May 22 2009, 11:45:14 PDT (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
    Everyone,
    First of all, I wish everyone out there, a great, fantastic MEMORIAL DAY...with friends & family.

    "IF" any of you can take a few minutes, hours etc., to visit your local Memorial Day events,and manage to pull yourselves away from a family weekend outing...'just for a little while'.....it might be something you might want to consider.

    SOME OF US, are still "working", sometimes on weekends, unfortunately. Especially, those in law enforcement.
    With this terrible economy nation-wide, many folks are stuck working second jobs (weekends) just to try and make ends meet. THAT is understandable.

    But, those of you that can spare a few minutes at your local Memorial Day events...please do. For many years, I have tried to do just THAT.

    "WHY"? Simply because, I feel I owe it to "those that did NOT return home, back from all the wars"...who perhaps died on a lonely battlefield somewhere or, that went down in a blaze of flame to the hard ground, from the heavens....or, sank with their shipmates down into a black watery grave."

    I was lucky to come home alive, from Vietnam & Desert Storm.
    I was lucky enough to survive the hard knocks of civilian
    law enforcement. I am damn lucky to be a "survivor".

    I am 61 years old, retired from the Air Force and LASD, and I am damn forunate & lucky to finally enjoy my pensions and time with my wife, family and hobbies. But, IT NEVER LEAVES MY THOUGHTS just how VERY lucky I really am.
    I thank GOD every day for all I have, and for "surviving".

    While I am still here on this good green earth,I will always give thanks everywhere & anyway I can.IT THE LEAST I CAN DO.

    This is just a "reminder" to ALL of YOU, my fellow VSPA brothers....to consider somekind of local Memorial Day event participation. Memorial Day comes just once a year.
    If it was the other way around, "THEY" would be doing it for "US".

    I have plans this Memorial Day weekend to drive up to Lake Arrowhead (Calif.)to our mountain home, with family & friends..but, I am driving down the mountain on Monday, Memorial Day to participate again, at the Memorial Day Ceremony at the Riverside National Veterans Cemetery, across from March ARB, off of the 15 FWY. starting at 10am.

    I will be joining other VSPA and Calif. Inland Empire Chapter (Air Force Security Forces Association)members to lay the VSPA & AFSFA Wreaths at the event. "OTHER" veterans groups will be doing the same.

    I will also be there, representing the National Veterans Coalition, as the national chairman.

    Anyways, God Bless you all, and always..."DEFENSOR FORTIS"!
    Maybe I will get to see some of you guys there in Riverside!
    Larry Breazeale, Msgt.(ret.)USAF
    Life Member VSPA #223,
    Air Force Security Forces Association
    B.O.D., VFW, VVA Chapter #47 Riverside,
    AF Sergeants Assn., Air Force Assn.,
    Nat. Chrm. National Veterans Coalition

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  • Glad to be alive -- Newell Collins LM 550, Mon, May 18 2009, 14:41:54 PDT (74-33-54-18.dr01.rvra.az.frontiernet.net/74.33.54.18)
    I had the scare of my life on Mothers Day. I was replacing the radiator on my daughter's car when I started having chest pains.

    I sat down in the shade and told my daughter I wasn't feeling so great. The thermometer was nearing the 100 mark. She got a wet towel to cool me off and insisted I take a couple of aspirins. When the pain didn't subside, I asked her to take me over into Needles to the ER.

    When they hooked me up to the EKG, they said that I had a blood clot blocking the artery in back of my heart. After getting the clot buster shots, I got a helicopter ride to Sunrise Hospital in Las Vegas.(My first helicopter ride since Vietnam) On Monday, they put a stint into the blocked artery. the procedure was successful.

    I'm resting at home now and feeling lucky to be alive.
    I'm having to watch things like my blood sugar and blood pressure much more closely now.

    Lesson learned: Monitor your vital signs and take aspirin if you think your having a heart attack. We are not indestructible kids anymore like we were in Nam.
    Newell Collins "C" Flight Security DaNang 65-66

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  • Freedom Is Not Free -- chaplain steve, Fri, May 22 2009, 20:16:04 PDT (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)


    FREEDOM IS NOT FREE

    They say I'm short and homeward bound.
    Then why is there no happiness found?
    One year here will soon be ore.
    And I'll walk to that Freedom Bird door.
    But I can't relax, no letting down.. why?
    Because to let down may mean to die.
    It's like a dream, can it really be.
    Everyone cheers as we fly by..
    But thinking of Friends below just makes me sigh.
    God be with you, I know your fears.
    I didn't know it then, but the next time I'd see some
    Of you would be twenty years.

    The plane gets me home and I kiss the ground.
    The family I left is the same one I found.
    We embrace and hug and cannot separate.
    The difference in life and death is only fate.
    When I was there I dreamed of home.
    Now I am here but how my mind does roam.

    When I was young I was taught at school.
    That freedom wasn't free and about the Golden Rule.
    I know them both but one came hard.
    To learn it I had to leave my own back yard.

    A peaceful memorial weekend to you and yours

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  • New Member Introduction -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Sat, May 16 2009, 16:12:23 PDT (97-115-119-76.ptld.qwest.net/97.115.119.76)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Ken "Tahlequah" Adams to membership in the VSPA. Ken served at Phan Rang in 1967-68 and currently lives in Oklahoma. He didn't mention how he found us, so maybe we can corner him at the reunion in a few months and find out then.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • Life Member # Five Hundred Sixty Four! -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Sun, May 17 2009, 9:36:50 PDT (97-120-198-187.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.198.187)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me this beautiful Sunday morning in congratulating Mike Thomas on becoming our VSPA Life Member #564. Mike served at Da Nang and Tan My in 1972 and now lives in Alabama. He's been a VSPA member for only a few months.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • New Member Introduction -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Thu, May 21 2009, 19:45:21 PDT (97-120-196-116.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.196.116)
    Ladies and gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Jim Moore to membership in the VSPA. Jim served at Da Nang in 1967-68, and now lives in Texas. He found VSPA through our constantly expanding website.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • Lt Col Grove C. Johnson's documents -- Kai Wong, Sat, May 23 2009, 8:33:19 PDT (cpe-75-82-158-38.socal.res.rr.com/75.82.158.38)
    From: Bill Price <wwprice@windstream.net>
    Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 2:17 PM

    Sorry, fellows, "My regret was that I was not with you all."

    From Kai Wong:

    Bill, I disagree with your regret not being with us on Dec. 24, 1966. I remember you to be the most "Strike" NCO, especially an E7, I ever met during my short career in the Air Police. I saw some sharp E5's but never an E7 that showed up for Guardmount every night like you were on a presidential detail. I just want to share with my Security Force buddies a story about the night I stood Ambush Detail with you and was it SSgt. Tom Holderness or SSgt. Robert Taylor? We were on the roof of a BEQ in a narrow alley in Cholon that was supposed to be hit by a suicide squad driving a truck bomb to the front of the BEQ. I believe Nung Guards were down on the street level armed with shotguns. We were up on the roof armed with M16's. Truthfully, I wished I had time that night to write my folks a letter before showing up with you on that BEQ rooftop because I thought it was going to be my last detail on earth. If that truck showed up that early morning and carried out its mission there would have been no place for us to go but down with the dust and rubble. There were a lot of things flashing before my mind but quitting was not one of them; I was proud to be there with you. I never said a word to you while we were on the roof top because I stayed on my post and watched all night for Charlie to show up. I would glance over from time to time, you appeared to be ready for anything that came your way. Your demeanor taught me how to conduct myself that night and all the other days and nights there after facing Charlie. You spent everyday, 24/7, making sure we knew what to do when the time came to Man-up. You were "there" with us Bill; You were the Shaq of all NCO's; You would have been leading the charge: Biting Charlies head off and pissing down his throat!

    You were "there" Sarge.

    Kailey

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  • Fantastic Memorial Day story -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Fri, May 22 2009, 6:30:25 PDT (dd.fws.gov/164.159.60.2)
    I heard this story on the radio this morning and almost had to pull off the road. It's extremely touching. On the website you can read it or listen to the actual audio, and leave comments. There are already a few good comments posted.

    It's titled: Memorial Day Miracle At 'The Wall'

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=104389637

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • KuKop Kommo -- Pat Dunne/Hawk, Wed, May 20 2009, 17:12:37 PDT (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
    Chief Luppa sent me file of photo I lost from my archives. I asked and he promptly replied. I haven't seen him since San Antonio. In our exchange of emails he mentioned that he was going to VA this week for some health issues. He was glad to hear from me. Me, too, I always admired him. He was good to his troops.
    So, any of you 'kukops out there send him a 'Howdy Do..' It's always good to hear from the guys. Even the non 'kukops. Hawk

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    • Chief Luppa -- Hawk, Wed, May 20 2009, 17:16:19 PDT (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
    • Re: KuKop Kommo -- RonEberhart (Thanks), Fri, May 22 2009, 14:06:10 PDT (adsl-76-235-99-168.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net/76.235.99.168)

  • Poem -- Jack Smith 377th SPS 68-69 LM 453, Fri, May 22 2009, 5:38:11 PDT (adsl-75-60-190-130.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net/75.60.190.130)

    Just a little short poem I wrote this morning. God Bless you all. Jack the Old Cowboy




    Memorial Day

    Flags of red white and blue flutter in the wind
    Placed upon the resting place of valiant military men

    These flags gently erected by caring hands
    For those lost in wars at home and in foreign lands

    From our largest cities to the smallest town
    Proud but humble veterans gather around

    Honoring those that never came home
    Tending through the years so they are not alone

    There on bright sun lit days or mornings of frost
    Veterans taking care of comrades lost

    Never asking for anything in return
    Just hoping that the young watch and learn

    So when we are finally laid to rest
    New veterans with step up and do their best

    Showing as we have the honor deserved
    For this lands freedom that we preserved

    Edwin J. Smith
    The Old Cowboy Poet
    May 22nd 2009

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  • SP Warrior lost -- TSgt Al Cady (Sad), Sat, May 02 2009, 8:03:10 PDT (host-69-145-146-208.grf-mt.client.bresnan.net/69.145.146.208)
    TSgt Jack Beale, Phantom Flight Chief, Nha Trang AB, '70-71, passed away from a long bout with cancer in Great Falls, Mt.

    Jack was from Tampa Fl and a career AF/SP...

    He was a real soldier, a great friend, and he will be missed by many...

    Hootch-Mate, TSgt Al Cady. Nha-Trang-Hon/Tre Island. '70-71.

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  • 50 yr Badge -- Dave Beckley, Thu, May 21 2009, 18:56:52 PDT (24-171-6-19.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com/24.171.6.19)
    Yesterday I received my new 50 year badge from Tim Waage. If any of you are the smart gents that I know you are, you have ordered one and it is soon on its way to you. This is a beautiful piece of workmanship that Tim has crafted and he deserves a big pat on the back for this one! He has produced a wonderful memento for our military profession!
    Congrats Tim!!!

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  • WHEREIS RANDY(RAMPS) SUTTER? -- Sam Lewis, Sat, May 16 2009, 3:44:03 PDT (pool-72-66-174-166.ronkva.east.verizon.net/72.66.174.166)
    Before Ruth and I head out to NC for my 45th HS Reunion , my youngest grandaughter's first birthday and then next weeks big Rolling Thunder ceremonies i wanted to ask Where is Ramps? Hadnt heard anything from him lately and just like any other brother I miss him and his input. sam

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  • MEMBER PASSING -- Lew Goldberg, Thu, May 21 2009, 12:56:40 PDT (adsl-76-194-200-8.dsl.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net/76.194.200.8)
    I just learned from Wm White(Easley SC) that Richard Shelton from Richmond KY passed away approx 2 years ago. Richard was a past member of VSPA. RIP

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  • Nakhon Phanom veterans especially -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Wed, May 20 2009, 19:53:52 PDT (97-120-104-201.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.104.201)
    Brothers,

    At our Webmaster's request I compiled all the VSPA BB posts and emails I had received about the anniversary of the Mayaguez and Knife 13 into one document. He added that document to the VSPA website's compiled history. Then I shared it with Jerry Haupt, a retired Air Force Security Forces troop (former SAC ramp rat) who has been rehired as a civilian at Luke AFB and is our contact there for the reunion and the 56th SPS/SFS memorial ceremony we’re planning.

    Last night I got this very touching reply from Jerry:

    Phil,
    Thanks so much for sharing this. I forwarded it out to all unit members so that our young troops have a better understanding of the spirit and dedication of the unit members that came before us. These messages are very touching and really humanize our history. Do you think the individuals that posted these messages would mind if I contacted them? I would like to keep them informed of our annual retreat ceremonies, and make sure they know that they are still part of this unit.
    Thanks again,
    Jerry

    Guys, this is the first time since I left NKP that anybody has suggested to me that I was still a part of the 56th. I left Nakhon Phanom 38 years ago tomorrow. I am just about speechless.

    Just for the record, I told Jerry that I thought our guys would welcome the personal contact from him. I suspect that most of our members, wherever they served, whatever their unit, would welcome the notion that they’re still part of that old outfit.

    I guess some of the active-duty folks in the Air Force are still all about “taking care of their own.”

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • rocket & mortar attack 1969 -- John Gorto, Tue, May 19 2009, 16:53:37 PDT (c-71-226-122-45.hsd1.az.comcast.net/71.226.122.45)
    Greetings,
    A fellow vet has asked me to help him get some facts on a double attack we had at Phan Rang I think it was March 17 ?
    We had mortars at night and rovkets in the morning. From what I have heard the mortar rounds landed near the transit barracks and a vehicle were hit.
    If any one was there or know anything about where the rockets and mortars landed, please contact me so I can pass on the info to him.
    Thank you gentleman.
    John

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  • Book Update -- Newell M. Swartz, Fri, May 15 2009, 10:42:32 PDT (71-37-199-183.phnx.qwest.net/71.37.199.183)
    Bob, Ron and all who have an interest in the publication of our VSPA Book, I spoke to Steve Gattis yesterday about a completion date. Steve advised that he is confident he can get the book back to the publisher by the middle of July. All the work the publisher initially asked for and other items that have been added have been completed. He is finalizing the editing process and is more than anxious to get this job done. We agreed that if the book is not back to the publisher by 1 August then we (the VSPA members) will discuss options suggested by members who have purchased the book. There is nothing more that can be said (or thought) about the completion of the book that hasn't already been said. Let's just hope that nothing interferes with the final process. We are behind you Steve, let's get it done. Thanks, Newell

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  • Pleasant Surprise. -- Sam Lewis, Mon, May 18 2009, 18:51:54 PDT (pool-72-66-174-166.ronkva.east.verizon.net/72.66.174.166)
    I Just got off the phone from a pleasant conversation with VSPA's newest member Ken "Tahlequah"Adams in Ok. . Ken and I were on B Flt . Security for almost the entire year together and spent many hrs. together at PR before an accident he had just before I left in Mar 67. He slipped and fell off the ladder of one of the new at that time towers and was air lifted to Cam Ranh for hospitalization and didnt return to PR until after I left without my knowing for sure what his health status was.. I had thought of Ken from time to time over the yrs.and wondered how he came out of that fall without knowing at all until Phil Carroll posted his new membership yeaterday. I retreived his number and called him tonight. I also told him I had a pic on the wall of my den with six of us SPs including him just before Guardmount at PR in 67 and would scan it and send it to him. He was very pleased and is looking forward to getting it.
    What a great thing VSPA is , full of pleasant surprises. sam

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  • Sincere thanks to our webmaster Don Poss -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Fri, May 15 2009, 11:13:44 PDT (dd.fws.gov/164.159.60.2)
    Don,

    Thanks for your terrific feature on the VSPA homepage about the Mayaguez and our Brothers who perished on Knife 13. I know the content has been on the site for a long time, but I really appreciate the way you've featured it on the anniversary of the events for the world to see and be reminded.

    May they rest in peace, heroes all.

    Phil

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  • The Wall is Washed -- Gary Jones, LM-363, Sun, May 17 2009, 18:54:23 PDT (cpe-098-025-046-219.sc.res.rr.com/98.25.46.219)
    Saturday morning, the VSPA was well represented at the washing of The Wall. Besides myself, Rich Nucifora drove down from CT, John Tudor from PA, Willie Squires and Chaplain Jim Stastny from MD and Mike Cowder from VA. We "got 'er dun" so it will look good for this coming Memorial Day weekend.

    I would like to offer a special Thanks to Life Member Bob Mitchell for making the button to commemorate the induction of CMSgt (Sgt Major) Bob Frink as the latest LM #111. The Sgt Major was a Life Member of both VSPA and Safeside. He was a true American Hero. Willie Squires and Chaplain Jim placed the button at the base of The Wall's "V," where the East and West panels meet, to signify the beginning and end of a war that has affected all of us. Many of you may not know it but non-perishable items left at The Wall are collected each evening by the Park Rangers and they are catalogued and stored in a Smithsonian warehouse in Suitland, MD. These artifacts are rotated through various displays in the American History Museum. When the underground Information Center is built, there will be a large display of artifacts there as well. Bob's button will live on, long after all of us are gone. Thanks again, Bob.

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  • Vietnam Veteran, 60-year-old Army soldier, is oldest killed in Iraq -- Bill Morris, Sun, May 17 2009, 3:35:59 PDT (66-169-169-247.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com/66.169.169.247)

    In case you might have missed this in the news....Arizona man was Vietnam vet who decided to re-enlist after 9/11 attacks.....

    Full story below at the web address (just copy and paste):

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30752514/

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  • WW 2 Vets finally laid to rest after 25 yrs -- Chaplain Steve, Sat, May 16 2009, 18:27:08 PDT (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
    R.I.P. two WW 2 veterans. Remains kept on a shelf in a Funeral Home for 25 yrs until this weekend.


    http://www.njn.net/television/webcast/njnnews/friday.html
    Then foward to 8 Min and 30 seconds

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  • Former Security Force Member Does Good as a Cop -- Ted Whitlock (Proud), Sat, May 16 2009, 18:04:03 PDT (115.20.118.70.cfl.res.rr.com/70.118.20.115)
    For your info, Jason Campbell is a former 45th SFS member at Patrick AFB, Fl.



    West Melbourne, Florida cop takes honors

    Updated: Wednesday, 06 May 2009, 6:16 PM EDT

    Published : Wednesday, 06 May 2009, 6:16 PM EDT



    WEST MELBOURNE, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - West Melbourne Police announced on Wednesday that Officer Jason Campbell has been selected as the Lee McGehee Police Officer of the Year for 2008 by the Florida Police Chief's Association (FPCA). Officer Campbell competed with other officers from agencies of similar size. Campbell is a Field Training Officer (instructor of newly assigned officers), a Patrol Officer, a Firearms Instructor, a Defensive Tactics Instructor, a Taser Instructor and a K9 Instructor/Handler.



    "I am extremely proud of FTO Jason Campbell," said West Melbourne Police Chief Brian K. Lock. "Jason epitomizes all of the qualities that we want in a law enforcement officer and we are extremely fortunate to have him in West Melbourne."



    The agency cited numerous occasions when Campbell and his K9 partner, Razor, teamed up to track and capture fleeing criminals, solve major crimes and recover valuable stolen property. Palm Bay Police requested Campbell's assistance in locating a murder suspect who had fled on foot during a traffic stop. Campbell also participated in several community functions including K9 demonstrations at schools and the Police Department Open House.



    The Florida Police Chiefs Association established the Police Officer of the Year Award in 1998 to recognize police officers who have demonstrated exceptional achievement and shown a genuine commitment to their profession.



    TED WHITLOCK
    Cell 321-243-8919
    Air Force Security Forces Association/Life Member/Space Coast Chapter/Chairman
    Vietnam Security Police Association/Life Member
    Noncommissioned Officer Association/Space Coast Chapter/Board of Directors
    The Retired Enlisted Association/Member
    Vietnam and All Veterans of Brevard/Life Member
    Brevard Veterans Council/Life Member
    Disabled American Veterans/Life Member
    American Legion Post 117/Member
    Welcome Home Vets/Board of Directors

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  • Our newest Life Member -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Thu, May 14 2009, 17:49:23 PDT (97-120-198-91.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.198.91)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in congratulating Phil Scherzinger, who just became VSPA Life member #562. Phil served at Phu Cat in 1969-70, and now lives in Texas. He's been a member of the VSPA for almost six years.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • VSPA Reunion Golf Tournament -- Newell M. Swartz, Sat, May 09 2009, 2:55:55 PDT (75-167-47-219.phnx.qwest.net/75.167.47.219)
    I am making one last request for anyone who is considering playing in the VSPA golf tournament at Luke AFB on 8 Oct 09 to please contact Erlyce Pekas. Her e-mail address and phone numbers are listed in an e-mail I posted on the Restricted Area. At present we have about 15 members signed up and we do need more to make the cost of a bus worth while. In a week I have to contact the Reunion Brat and let them know if we are going to have a golf tournament and how many memnbers we will have so they can lock in the bus transportation to and from Luke which is about 35 miles from the hotel. Please contact Erlyce as soon as possible but not later than Thursday, 15. Thanks, Newell

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  • Looking for info on an SP Vietnam casualty -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Thu, May 14 2009, 12:53:35 PDT (dd.fws.gov/164.159.60.2)
    All,

    The curator of the Security Forces Museum, Ms. Milita Rios-Samaniego, is asking for VSPA help in digging up some documentation. She's remodeling part of the museum having to do with honoring the fallen. There is one name in the previous informational materials that she cannot find any records on, nor can she document that he actually perished in Vietnam. The name is A1C Robert G. Grant III, and the date of death her record shows is 29 May 1969. His name is not on The Wall, and there's no Air Force casualties on that date on the wall at all.

    The VSPA website has him listed only in one place, our page of Air Force AP/SP recipients of the Bronze Star w/V. It's not shown as posthumous, and there's no Purple Heart listed with the Bronze Star.

    If anybody has any knowledge or information about this Skycop, please contact me as soon as possible and I'll get your information passed on to the museum.

    Thanks, and Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • And yet another Newest Life Member! -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Thu, May 14 2009, 18:32:24 PDT (97-120-198-91.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.198.91)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in congratulating Jack Caldwell on becoming VSPA Life Member #563. Jack served at Ubon in 1966, and U-Tapao in 1968-69. He now lives in Tennessee and has been a VSPA member for nine years!

    Welcome Home to VSPA!

    Phil

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  • Wall Washing -- Gary Jones, LM-363, Thu, May 14 2009, 4:13:50 PDT (cpe-098-025-046-219.sc.res.rr.com/98.25.46.219)
    The "Help Desk" for our web site will be "closed" from about 2100 this evening until sometime on Monday evening. I apologize for any inconvenience. Hopefully, none of our Members will have any problems while I am out of town.

    I will be leaving Friday morning to drive up to DC to wash OUR precious Vietnam Veteran's Memorial, so it will be clean for next week's Memorial Day activities. I try to do this twice a year because OUR Memorial was bought and paid for by the blood, sweat, tears and money of our Brothers and Sisters. The maintenance and upkeep also comes from private donations and volunteer labor. We will not allow OUR Memorial to fall in a state of neglect and disrepair that has claimed some other Memorials in DC.

    If any of you are in the DC area, I hope to see you there on Saturday morning at 0615. We will meet by the statue of the 3 soldiers at the entrance by the Lincoln Memorial. On-street parking is available along Constitution Avenue between 21st and 23rd Streets, and on those streets as well. If you take the Metro, take the Orange or Blue Line and get off at Foggy Bottom. Exit the station from the George Washington University escalator and turn right, down 23rd street, past State Department to Constitution Ave. Cross Constitution and there is a Memorial entrance right there. We will be finished by 0800, before Visitors start arriving.

    If you can make it, be sure to wear your Vietnam Vet hats. Hope to see you there.

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  • 34 years ago tonight -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Wed, May 13 2009, 10:31:33 PDT (dd.fws.gov/164.159.60.2)
    This has already been posted on, below, but I need to add a little on the subject. Thirty-four years ago tonight 18 of our Brothers perished enroute to a rescue mission. I won't ever forget them, though I only knew one personally. I've had the honor of taking rubbings of their names from The Wall. For those visitors to this site who don't know about the story, I'll paste in a little summary of it here from an essay I wrote about Nakhon Phanom.

    Before I tell that part of the story, though, I want to acknowledge what every other Skycop in Thailand in May 1975 went through during those tense days. Many thought that this was the start of a new war with Cambodia; there was good reason for a while to believe that Knife 13 had been shot down as it flew close to the border of Laos; everybody reasonably feared that the gathering rescue mission at U-Tapao would come under attack, and if it did the rest of our bases in Thailand were equally threatened; nobody knew anything for sure but that there had been an armed attack on a merchant vessel and a helo full of rescuers had suddenly dropped off radar into the jungle canopy at night. That was a frightening time. God bless them all, and all of you remembering them with me today.

    On 12 May 1975 the civilian container ship “Mayaguez” was seized by Cambodians and its 40-man crew imprisoned. President Ford wanted an immediate and decisive military response to this piracy, and the Marines were too far away to respond quickly enough to suit him. According to a USAF Security Forces History of Combat Operations, “The men of the 56th Security Police Squadron trained as a unit and were hailed throughout 13th Air Force as a capable assault force.... The [President’s] advisors looked for the nearest unit capable of mounting an assault upon the ship under combat conditions. The only unit with such a reputation closer to the scene than the Third Marine Division was the 56th Security Police Squadron at Nakhon Phanom RTAFB.” Seventy-five hand-picked volunteers were quickly assembled and a rescue attempt was started. Sadly, a CH-53 helicopter, “Knife 13,” carrying a flight crew of five, a linguist, and eighteen Security Police and K-9 troops, crashed into the jungle near the Laotian border in the middle of the night. All on board were killed. Days later the bloody rescue mission for the Mayaguez crew was finally carried out. Although a number of U.S. Navy, Marine and Air Force personnel, and 56th Special Operations Wing aircraft were lost, eventually the crew of the Mayaguez was released.

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  • I WISH -- RAYMOND JONES (LOOKING), Wed, May 13 2009, 19:16:40 PDT (adsl-146-147-223.clt.bellsouth.net/72.146.147.223)
    I WISH



    OH how I WISH to see. the menwho severed with me across the sea.men who knows how it feels to be in that land of uncertaintee. men who raised thier hand and took a oath to serve. men who left there home land to go to a land of unsecurity men who faced doubt and fear which could have been there last breath. men who grew into a brotherhood men who gave some and kept inside the sounds of war and fallen man time has come and gone///////money far beenspentjust to leave it in memory of all who gave there best the wall the wall stands today to honor all who gave all OH bring me home If but for a while to see these men who severed with me across that sea I WISH OH HOW I WISHTHIS COULD BE FOR ME TO SEE THE MEN WHO SERVED WITH ME SHINGLE HOLLOW NORTH CAROLINA OCT 14 2008 too all in every way the brotherhood of vspa god bless take care RAYMOND

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  • New Member Introduction! -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Tue, May 12 2009, 19:09:53 PDT (97-120-198-204.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.198.204)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Phil Owen to membership in the VSPA. Phil served with the 821st CSPS at Phan Rang, Phu Cat and Cam Ranh Bay in 1970-71. He currently lives in Virginia, and found us through our encyclopedic website.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • Post Check -- Jack Jobes, LM 542, Mon, May 11 2009, 22:42:20 PDT (adsl-75-2-208-86.dsl.mrdnct.sbcglobal.net/75.2.208.86)
    Well today turned quite hectic. After telling my PTSD group that Saturday would be my last work day at Foxwoods Casino where I work Security, I got call from VA Hospital in Leeds MA and was told I had an opening for their 6 week PTSD course thru the short list. Start Monday!!...Now have to cancel MRI at Yale Hospital until after June to get started on getting cyst removed from my pancrea. Have to get clearance from my heart doc in July for that. Hoping I can get thru the operation phase of it in time to heal and make my trip to my first reunion in OCT. Like I said..turned out to be quite a hectic day. Its now 0140 and I just got home from work, started it all at 0900 this morning. Jack Jobes, Phan Rang, 67-68, Panther Flight.

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  • MAY 12,1975 BROTHERS LOST AND LEFT BEHIND -- JPMullen, Mon, May 11 2009, 20:08:22 PDT (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
    BROTHERS LOST AND LEFT BEHIND
    SO FEW OF US THERE AT THE TIME
    MOST OF US WERE 19
    NOW WE ARE SO HARD TO FIND

    THE MAYAQUEZ MISTAKE MAY 13, 1975
    NEVER QUALIFIED ANY OF US AS NAM VETS
    OR HELPS US PROVE THE STRESSORS FOR PTSD
    THE DAYS WILL COME THAT WE ALONE WILL TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN
    IT IS NEVER WHAT OTHERS SAY OR THINK ABOUT YOU...
    IT IS ONLY WHAT YOU DO THAT COUNTS.
    AND WE COUNT JUST LIKE OTHERS DO
    BUT WHEN IT COMES TO HELP..WE JUST DON'T COUNT.
    THE KIDS FROM CAMP BULLIS TO UDORN AND NKP
    IN OUR HEARTS,MINDS AND FLASHBACKS.

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  • Help for a disabled Vietnam Veteran -- Mary Flandez, social Worker, Tue, May 12 2009, 14:13:13 PDT (cpe-75-82-158-38.socal.res.rr.com/75.82.158.38)
    I am Mary Flandez social worker for James .We are hoping that someone can help with this situation. My client James Louis Raphael Simi Valley California now has Agent Orange. His symptoms are Diabetes, amputation and on Dialysis Etc The VA can not find any history of James serving in Vietnam. The VA will not assist with the Agent Orange due to this fact. Please Is there anyone that can assist us with this matter? Is there anyway we can find out who has served with him?

    Army Info; Pvt. James Louis Raphael. Started to service in the Army October 3, 1966 Fort Polk Louisiana. Training was at Fort Ord. California March 3, 1967 After training he then was flown out to Vietnam. He served from 1967 to 1968. James is now in a Conversant Hospital.

    His wife’s e mail is jraphael3@roadrunner.com her name is Albertha.

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  • General Hertog Confirmed -- Chaplain Jim Lm #442, Tue, May 12 2009, 17:31:01 PDT (pool-71-126-149-39.washdc.fios.verizon.net/71.126.149.39)
    Got this from another brother.

    The US Senate confirmed General Hertog on Friday May 8 to the grade of Major General.

    Hoo Aaaaah!!

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  • Gettysburg, Mini Reunion Update -- Den Cook, Terry Morris, Tue, May 12 2009, 13:13:03 PDT (cache07.dca.untd.com/64.136.27.231)
    Mini Reunion update.

    It seems that many of those attending the mini reunion in Gettysburg are from in state and may be just there for the day. John Tudor, our guide thru the battlefield, said that 1300 hours on Saturday, the 20th of June would work just fine. Denis tells me there is a music festival in Gettysburg at that time as well. You can check it out at gettysburgfestival.org

    For those of us that live too far away or want to spend more than one or two days in the area, there are options. We have yet to locate our meeting place as we all will be staying in different locations. That will be determined.

    John sent some campgrounds in the area and I’ll share them with you.

    1. Drummer Boy Camp Resort www.drummerboycampresort.com

    800-293-2808

    2. Gettysburg KOA

    1-717-642-5713

    3. Round Top Campground www.roundtopcampground.com

    1-717-334-9565

    Motels are plentiful but as any tourist area they are more expensive. You might try www.pavisnet.com and enter motels and Gettysburg or other nearby city.

    Others I’ve found are;

    1. Cross Keys Motor Inn crosskeysmotorinn.com

    1-717-624-7778 1 adult $92.65 2 adults $103.55 + tax

    2. Gettysburg Travel Lodge $107.

    1-800-551-2409

    3. Fairfield Lodge www.fairfieldlodge.com

    1-717-642-642-8245

    4. On the less expensive side the Blue Sky Motel www.blueskymotel.com

    $59. W/shower $67 W/ bath

    They claim it’s not the “Ritz” but rooms are clean and quiet.

    I do not endorse any of these, they’re just some options that I’ve found. Just google Gettysburg motels and you’ll find many more. But don’t wait too long, I’ve found some that are full already.

    I’ll try to keep you all updated but remember this is a mini reunion, no fees, registration costs, no bus trips etc. I can’t wait. See you there.

    Terry and Denis

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