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Vietnam Security Police Association, Inc. (USAF)
Welcome Home to Vietnam Security Police Association, Inc.

The Vietnam Security Police Association, Inc. (USAF) is an association for USAF Vietnam War Veterans
who served in Vietnam or Thailand from 1960-1975 as Security / Air Police, or as an augmentee.
Please visit VSPA's BB Rules, Disclaimers, and Guidelines prior to posting a message or response.

All Questions or Comments to VSPA Bulletin Board Flight Leader Bill Marshall

Vietnam Security Police Association, Inc. (USAF)

  • Combat veteran ? -- Ed Daubert.377th SPS,LM 507, Wed, Aug 12 2009, 18:01:22 PDT (ACA3ED29.ipt.aol.com/172.163.237.41)
    I have recently read several articles and each seemed to have their own definition of what a combat veteran is. Im not sure at times if I should even refer to myself as one, as I was only involved in a few incidents of rocket attacks,and some small arms fire. I would ask you guys for your input on this subject. PS Im not trying to stire up things here but just want some opinions from others who were SPs. Thanks!

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  • Airconditioning ? -- chaplain steve, Wed, Aug 12 2009, 20:21:36 PDT (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
    Mybe it's my age and memory giving me problems but why was it impossible for us to have an air conditioner back then? I mean after the guys in the tents built us nice hooches? Was it because they were so expensive and not on the market so long back in the late sixties and early seventies? It would have given us a whole different experience with all the down time don't you think??

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  • GOOD SOURCE OF INFORMATION -- Jim (BUDDHA) LEBOWITZ, Thu, Aug 13 2009, 21:57:08 PDT (ppp-47.255.lw.fea.net/216.115.255.47)
    Check out the following site. It has a lot of helpful information, i.e. getting a copy of your DD Form 214, military records, etc.

    http://www.archives.gov/veterans/evetrecs/index.html

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  • Who we are -- chaplain steve, Thu, Aug 13 2009, 19:55:14 PDT (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
    I think we have all watched so many war movies growing up that alot of it did not compare to our experience. Each war is different and many times the mission of each branch of service is different. I knew an A.F.k9 man who misrepresented himself to the news media and made up fantastic tales because he thot his experience wasn't good enough. I told him he was wrong and needed to tell the truth. The truth was we had a difficult job just the way it was. Take pride in it. You get combat pay for being in a combat zone. No it wasn't D-Day or trench warfare but it was our war. Now a bunch of brave people are fighting their war for us. God Bless them...We do not have to embellish the truth. The truth is good enough.

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  • Woodstock -- Den Cook, Thu, Aug 13 2009, 10:04:11 PDT (66.216.134.218.static.dejazzd.com/66.216.134.218)
    I sent the following letter to the the Editors of the daily and Sunday papers, you mayh want to do the same with your local papers

    **********************************************************************

    NEVER FORGET

    While the bands played on at Woodstock, 109 Americans died in Vietnam, Never Forget.

    Denis Cook
    377th SPS

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  • Atten: 821st CSPS Vets -- Steven Hall, Thu, Aug 13 2009, 16:58:08 PDT (adsl-67-122-137-251.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net/67.122.137.251)
    I found a former SP named Raul Apodaca that served with the 821st CSPS in Vietnam. He was looking for a friend through the AF Lost and Found site. I invited him to join the VSPA. If any of you 821st CSPS guys remember him, drop him a line and welcome him home.

    raulapodaca310@yahoo.com

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  • Atten: Phan Rang SPs -- Steve Hall, Thu, Aug 13 2009, 16:52:14 PDT (adsl-67-122-137-251.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net/67.122.137.251)
    I found a SP that served at Phan Rang (don't know year) on the Air Force Lost and Found site. His name is Henry Valentine.
    If any of you guys from Phan Rang remember him, get ahold of him and invite him to join. It would be easy for him to make this year's reunion, he live in Phoenix!

    henryvalentine@ymail.com

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  • Reunion Roanoke Update Info -- Ed Narwid, Wed, Aug 12 2009, 16:55:11 PDT (wisp.208.69.227.194.b2xonline.net/208.69.227.194)
    For all those that will be attending our Mini Reunion in Roanoke, Va this coming weekend. Friday night August 14th we will all meet in the Lobby of the Hotel between 6PM and 615 PM as we have reservations for dinner at 630PM at a restaurant across the street.
    Looking forward to seeing everyone this weekend and hope everyone has a safe trip .

    Ed Narwid

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  • Proud of the BX -- Jack Smith 377th SPS 68-69 LM 453, Thu, Aug 13 2009, 7:37:42 PDT (adsl-75-42-211-56.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net/75.42.211.56)
    I just want to express my praise for the BX. I ordered some patches to complete my jacket for the reunion. What a fast service they provide. Less than 3 days and here they are. ready to go on the jacket. Thank you Van it just shows that we do take care of our own. I also found that using paypal really simplifies the process.Again thank you for all the time and effort you and yours put into this great service. Jack The Old Cowboy

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  • Enlistment update -- Howard Yates, Tue, Aug 11 2009, 18:15:19 PDT (198.56.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com/97.100.56.198)
    My youngest son, Ian, has finally been cleared by the US Army and will be contracting for Military Police this Thursday. He will be placed on Delayed Enlistment and report for basic in January. Special thanks to Jerry Nelson for all his great advice, guidance and encouragement along the way.

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  • Status Report: Gates & Towers project -- Don Poss, Mon, Aug 10 2009, 22:57:52 PDT (cpe-75-82-158-38.socal.res.rr.com/75.82.158.38)
    Gents:

    The response to the Gates, Towers and Bunkers project has been absolutely tremendous! Steve Gattis suggested the project in 1998 (I told you I was backlogged), and it is paying off.

    Gates: Gates for bases up to Nha Trang (in alpha order) are completed. No problem to add the late comer's photos, so keep sending photos as you find them.

    Towers & Bunkers: There are some truely amazing photos, including Starlight Night scope photos! Most of the early towers did not have lightning-rods attached. But you can tell when we lost one or two SPs to lighting strikes because they all have them thereafter. When you look out from a tower over an M60 and toward the treeline...you can't help but remember what it was like.

    Quality of the photos are generally good. Some or simply outstanding and border on professional. Others...I hope your palsey is responding to medication. All of them are worth seeing, and I am positive everyone will enjoy seeing towers built from primitive to deluxe...depending on available materials.

    How much longer? ... soon.

    Don Poss

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  • Switching Posts -- chaplain steve, Mon, Aug 10 2009, 22:25:21 PDT (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
    Did you ever switch posts with someone ? When I first starting working it was not unusual for k9 handlers to switch posts if they wanted to be next to a friend. This also happened if someone wanted the night off and could get someone to work for him. It usually cost a twenty dollar bill. This stopped after a couple months for obvious reasons. The one time I did work for someone I was new. They told me that when his name was called just answer the correct post number. No wonder our NCOIS's got grey hair..
    It also tempted fate just a bit...

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  • Washing The Wall -- Gary Jones, LM-363, Tue, Aug 11 2009, 13:34:29 PDT (cpe-098-025-046-219.sc.res.rr.com/98.25.46.219)
    Eagle Chapter, Air Force Security Forces Association, will conduct their last washing of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial on Saturday morning, Aug 29. We will meet at the flag pole, by the statue of the 3 soldiers on patrol at 0600. Thus far, we have commitments from a Boy Scout Troop, some Loring AFB RampRats (AP/SP/SF) and the Andrews AFB Airman Leadership School Class. It takes about an hour. At the last washing, we had 5 VSPA members helping out. It is a great place to take your kids and Grandkids to teach them a little bit of history.

    Hope to see you there.

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  • Passing of Roger Lansden -- Tim Fazenbaker (Sadness), Thu, Aug 06 2009, 17:48:24 PDT (c-68-36-58-81.hsd1.pa.comcast.net/68.36.58.81)
    Just wanted everyone to know that VSPA member Roger Lansden passed away July 29th in Portland Oregon. Roger had been fighting cancer since May 08. Rogers family was with him and he went peacefuly. Roger and I met at Mather AFB in 1969 when I arrived from a tour at Osan AB Korea. I will miss my good friend of 40 years. Roger served with the 366th from 69 to 70.

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  • Poem -- Jack Smith 377th SPS 68-69 LM 453, Fri, Aug 07 2009, 7:29:39 PDT (adsl-99-168-76-91.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net/99.168.76.91)

    This one is for our brother Roger. We will all met again.
    Jack



    Some Where Down The Road

    As young men down different roads we traveled
    Not really knowing where we were might go
    Some roads of concrete and some graveled
    Just enjoying the happy trip never feeling low

    Soon all the roads we took back then
    Came together as a long single road to Vietnam
    We formed into one all becoming friends
    Learning to protect each other as rockets slammed in

    We took care of our own during trying times
    After we returned home different roads we took
    Still wondering about brothers in arms in our minds
    From some of the old memories we still shook

    Now as we grow older we travel that road again
    Seeking once more to take care of our own
    Hoping the pain and hurt will mend
    Not wanting anymore to be alone

    We are all on that single road the leads to the grave
    Now knowing we take care of our own
    Alas our route with friendship is paved
    As we all meet somewhere down the road

    Jack The Old Cowboy Poet

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  • Welcome Home for one of our Brave -- Sam Lewis, Tue, Aug 11 2009, 4:23:09 PDT (pool-70-110-1-97.roa.east.verizon.net/70.110.1.97)
    Good story and Video of the soldier we the local PGR Welcomed Home Friday Nite from Iraq for a 15 day R&R . Check it out by Googling "Roanoke Times" and go from there. Thks, sam

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  • Rare Jimmy Stewart Video of WW 2 Experiences -- chaplain steve, Sun, Aug 09 2009, 19:59:31 PDT (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
    Jimmy Stewart gived rare interview about his ww2 experience.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoY8Cj1larg

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  • Boston Red Sox -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Sun, Aug 09 2009, 14:53:32 PDT (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
    Wasn't it gracious of the Red Sox to let the Yankees win the first 3 games of this series?

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  • Update on Roger Lansden -- Newell M. Swartz, Fri, Aug 07 2009, 19:43:01 PDT (75-167-47-75.phnx.qwest.net/75.167.47.75)
    I just got off the phone with Rita Moran, Roger's sister, who has been at his side these past several weeks. Services for Roger will be held at 1100 hours, tomorrow morning at the Tigard Covenant Church, Tigart, OR. Roger requested that in lieu of flowers, any donations be sent to the VSPA. Rita said that Roger's passing was very peaceful and that Robin, Roger's girlfriend, his son Justin and daughter Paige as well as Rita were with him at the end. Rita did have one request and that is that we pray for Roger's parents, Jack and Dorothy Lansden who reside in Florida. They will not be able to attend Roger's funeral due to health problems for Mrs Lansden. Both are 89 years old. Jack was 89 on Jul 15 and Dorothy will be 89 this coming Monday. Jack is a WWII Navy veteran, whose ship, the USS Leary was sunk in the Atlantic on Christmas Eve, 1942. According to Rita, he was the last man pulled out of the water. Both are obviously distraught over not being able to attend their son's funeral, but Roger was able to visit them a few months ago to say goodbye. I assured Rita that we would pray for Jack and Dorothy. May the Good Lord Bless all Roger's family and console them in their grief. Newell

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  • Fun In place of sleep -- Glenn Wilson (More than I bargained for), Fri, Aug 07 2009, 17:42:30 PDT (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
    1968, Vietnam. Just came off of the Midnight shift (Phantom Flight at CRB).....Dead tired, crawled into my little bunk for a day of restless, heat-filled sleep. I finally fell asleep only to be awakened about 15 minutes later. An Airman from the Orderly Room was standing over my bunk, yelling my name loudly. I said,Wha',Wha', What do you want? He said, "They want you over at the hospital right away." I asked him who wanted me at the hospital. "I don't know, but they said it was very important." O.K., I'm thinking maybe they want me to give some of my blood type for a newly arrived wounded man or something. They were always flying medical choppers in from the field right over our row of huts all day long.

    So to cut to the quick, I drag my tired body over there and the Hospital clerk tells me to report to some Full Colonel in room 27. I walked in and this Col. is lying on a cot while reading (this is no lie)a DONALD DUCK Comic book. Turns out he is a Dentist. He directed me to the Dental chair while he washed his hands. Then he pulled an X-Ray of what was my teeth out of a drawer. I'm sitting there and he tells me nothing, but sticks a Novocain needle into the right side of my mouth. Then he announces that he is about to pull a wisdom tooth. I told him that I have never had any problem with my teeth. I may as well have told him that I was really a Major General masquerading as a T/Sgt. Ignoring my plea for mercy, he continued and finally got that deep seated tooth out. He said, "I see you have had teeth pulled before, so you know what to do" while he put a cloth swab in the hole where my tooth used to be. "That'll be all Sergeant". Then he went back to his cot and resumed the prone position with his comic book in hand as I went out the door holding my bloody mouth. Just another lovely day in the Combat Zone in Vietnam.

    Glenn Wilson LM#117

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  • Were You Ever Sick ( or injured ) In Country ? -- Chaplain Steve, Tue, Aug 04 2009, 19:13:35 PDT (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
    I just read Don's cover story on the web site. Should make for a good discussion here. I added injured or getting hurt in some way also. This being the non combat type of injuries. Of course it doesn't mean being sick and tired of the place all year which we were but physically sick or getting hurt in some way. I can recall a similiar episode of diarrhea and vomiting at the same time and thinking I would die. I got one or two days off for that. I cut my finger jumping off a posting truck. Caught it on a nail. Went to the hospital for a few stitches and got a few days off until we went into yellow alert. They gave me my weapon and put me on a backup post with no dog. Our football games were famous at the beach and some guys were injured from that.

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  • Nha Trang -- Glen H.. Myers, Mon, Aug 10 2009, 6:30:48 PDT (host671420032130.direcway.com/67.142.130.32)
    This is directed to the person who emailed me regarding the Nha Trang photo saying that he remembered an AP by the name of Bolton. Being the big dummy I am, I have lost? your email. Please contact me again.

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  • 'Ku QRTs '69 -- Pat Dunne CM/LM40, Thu, Aug 06 2009, 9:45:22 PDT (NoHost/208.62.255.79)
    That's a Wild Bunch of Gunslingers. I've met Howard Pugh (May he RIP) and Morasco at reunions. Where are the rest of these guys?
    Whattya call the double deuces? Deuces, Twin Deuces, Deuses Wild? Cleaning one is bad enough.
    Did they get many Mad Minutes? I was gone by the time this troop rolled. We didn't get V100s (2) 'til Summer '68.
    Used 1 1/2 tons for RSATs and QRTs before that. Hawk

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  • Sisterhood Meeting -- Janet Matthews-Wise, Tue, Aug 04 2009, 17:22:09 PDT (24-196-19-136.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com/24.196.19.136)
    So is everybody ready for Phoenix and another outstanding Reunion? Can't wait to see all y'all there.

    I need to ask for some input from the "Sisterhood" and you guys too. The Sisterhood officers would like suggestions on what you would like for us to cover at the Sisterhood meeting this year.

    For the new members wives, family members, significant others, while the members conduct their annual business meeting, we, the Sisterhood, also meet. Our goal is to provide helpful information to those of us who have supported and support our VSPA members.

    We really want the Sisterhood to work for you and need your participation.

    Please contact me or any of our Sisterhood officers so that we can provide you the support and information you want.

    Thank you for your participation!

    HUGS!
    Janet Matthews-Wise
    Daughter of VSPA LM 127
    Sisterhood VP
    Friend of K9
    Assistant to the VSPA Membership Chariman
    "Sparkplug"

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  • New Stories & Photos posted! -- Don Poss, Tue, Aug 04 2009, 16:00:48 PDT (cpe-75-82-158-38.socal.res.rr.com/75.82.158.38)
    Gents & Ladies:

    From the homepage at VSPA.com, check out John Carver's Pleiku QRT group photo, George Luppa's Pleiku 122mm Rockets story, and Glen Myer's Nha Trang AB photos! Also, add to the Airman's Medal and Bronze Star Medal w/V awards pages.

    FYI: The long-planned Gates, Towers & Bunkers project is moving right along. Thanks for sending in some truly outstanding photos that will be a part of this project.
    See you at the Reunion!

    Don Poss,
    VSPA Webmaster

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  • Atten: Woofers and Ear Scratchers -- Steve Hall, Wed, Aug 05 2009, 8:51:44 PDT (adsl-68-120-224-146.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net/68.120.224.146)
    I have a correction on the "War Dogs of the Pacific"
    In my last post I said the program was on the History Channel.
    It's actually on the Military Channel. DOH!

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  • BX Store -- Ed Narwid, Tue, Aug 04 2009, 12:27:32 PDT (wisp.208.69.227.194.b2xonline.net/208.69.227.194)
    I received my order today of a VSPA Golf Shirt and all I can say is it was in a timely manner and quick. The shirt is of an outstanding quality and anyone who has one can feel proud to wear it. If you do not have one I recomend you getting one .
    Those running the store are very dependable and right on the ball with fulfilling the orders.
    I will not hesitate to place many more orders through the BX store in the future.
    Keep up the great work .

    Sgt. Ed Narwid 35sps/633rd CSG Sps. 1967 and 1968

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    • Re: BX Store -- Sam Lewis, Tue, Aug 04 2009, 13:49:54 PDT (pool-70-110-1-97.roa.east.verizon.net/70.110.1.97)
    • Re: BX Store -- Kari Digby, Tue, Aug 04 2009, 17:16:20 PDT (66-188-30-200.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com/66.188.30.200)
      • Re: BX Store -- Sam Lewis, Tue, Aug 04 2009, 18:05:13 PDT (pool-70-110-1-97.roa.east.verizon.net/70.110.1.97)

  • Proud to be a member of the VSPA -- Johnny Keel, Mon, Aug 03 2009, 16:12:37 PDT (99-2-33-183.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net/99.2.33.183)
    Words can not express how proud that I am to be associated with such heros that served our country in Vietnam and Thailand as Security Police protector.

    I am honored and want to thank each of the members greetings and WELCOME HOME to each of you.

    I invite each and everyone of you to visit my web site concerning heart issues. I had to have open-heart surgery to repair my damaged heart and have become a winner. The site will explain more. Thank you. www.heartvictory.com

    Johnny Keel
    Sgt. 635th SPS, U-Tapao RTAFB, Thailand

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  • Roanoke Mini Reunion-Roanoke, Va -- Ed Narwid, Tue, Aug 04 2009, 13:00:55 PDT (wisp.208.69.227.194.b2xonline.net/208.69.227.194)
    If anyone is interested in attending the mini Reunion we are running August 14th thru August 16 we still have room for you and your family or friends.
    We have a planned guided tour of the National DDay memorial site located in Bedford, Va as well as a luncheon on the Blue Ridge Parkway at a scenic restaurant. Also friday night we will all go out to a local Restaurant in Roanoke, Va.
    If anyone is interested I can be contacted via telephone at 540-297-4644 for full details. We have arranged for discounted room rates at a hotel in Roanoke run by a family of Veterans.

    Hope we can have a few more signups.
    Ed Narwid

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  • Life Member #578! -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Sun, Aug 02 2009, 15:57:29 PDT (97-120-195-60.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.195.60)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in congratulating Jim Willis on becoming VSPA Life Member #578. Jim served at Phan Rang in 1966-67, and currently lives in Oregon where he's the director of the Oregon Department of Veterans' Affairs. Those of you lucky enough to have made it to the VSPA reunion last fall in Albuquerque will remember he was the excellent keynote speaker at the banquet.

    Jim's been a VSPA member for just one year, so I guess we favorably impressed him.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • Atten: Woofers and Ear Scratchers -- Steve Hall, Tue, Aug 04 2009, 10:00:05 PDT (adsl-68-120-224-146.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net/68.120.224.146)

    Last minute reminder...
    Tomorrow night on the History Channel
    "War Dogs of the Pacific"
    will be aired. Put on your best dog collar
    and tune in to see how it all began.

    Woof!

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  • Membership resinations -- Jackie R.Kays, Sat, Aug 01 2009, 17:51:06 PDT (customer121_133.grm.net/216.139.121.133)
    Hi Gents,
    A few years back, I became disenchanted in regards to my membership
    in the VSPA. The incident involved comments posted on the VSPA
    Bulletin Board by one of the member’s derogatory remarks in regards to a retired
    Sergeant, who was a dear friend of mine. My friend had just recently passed
    away prior to the comments being posted on the B.B.
    I was irate about the incident and threatened to resign my membership in the VSPA over the incident.
    Thanks, to several level headed friends of mine in the organization, who convinced me that quitting was not the answer to my indignation. The problem could be and was quickly resolved, and my pride and indignations was restored.
    My point being; I hate to see any member resign their membership in this great organization; no matter how big the problem may seem at the time.
    We have officers in this organization that will listen to your complaints and will be fair in their decision making in regards to those complaints!
    If need be, I’m sure our President; Newell Swartz or Vice President; Hector Ramos would personally discuss your complaint or disagreement and work with you in bringing the problem to a fair resolution! Quitting places you “Outside the Wire” forever!

    Jackie
    Outside of the Wire

    We have all been outside the wire sometime in our lives
    and we all know the inherent dangers; bouncing betties,
    claymores, mortars enemy small fire, friendly fire and
    sometimes the worst threat of all; ourselves.

    In order to get back to safety we must trust in our
    Comrades in Arms, our training, our skills, our
    family ties, our faith and our determination to
    make it back to the safety and protection of our
    Comrades, friends and family!

    There are time when we all feel like quitting, when the burden
    seem to much to bear and we find ourselves outside of the wire
    with our back to the wire, that’s when it’s time to trust our
    brotherhood, our friends and our faith to guide us back to
    reason and safety.

    Sometime one of the biggest obstacles to reason is our attitude,
    which dictates our actions in all matters. We can not be right all
    the time and realizing this fact we must be big enough to admit
    and submit to compromise which can open the gates to the wire
    and return us to the safety of our compound, our buddies, our
    family and friends.

    There is no honor in quitting!
    To quit is to parish!
    Remember the VSPA Motto;
    “We take care of our own!”
    The timeless combat code;
    “One for all and all for one!’

    A wise man once said;
    “No man is an Island to himself.” (How True!)

    Jackie R. Kays
    7/28/09

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  • Ranger in Hawaii -- Greg Giseburt, Mon, Aug 03 2009, 18:43:01 PDT (cpe-76-93-33-13.socal.res.rr.com/76.93.33.13)
    Got a call this weekend from one of my old buddies Bill Fetsco. Bill and I talk about every month or two. Anyways Bill had been in Hawaii the last week or ten days. He was at some tourist place when up in front of the people he heard saomeone singing, Im a Air Force Ranger, I live the life of danger and so on. Before Bill could track the follow down he was gone. Was that any one here. Bill and I were in the 822nd "B" flight.

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  • Prayer are needed -- Don Hamilton, LM #201 (sad), Thu, Jul 30 2009, 8:44:30 PDT (adsl-76-223-67-197.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net/76.223.67.197)
    Brothers-

    Today I have learned that my cousin has kidney cancer, both kidneys are involved. There is little that can be done and what can be will have bad sideffects and will not help.

    Phylis has been married for 44 years and raised 6 children. She worked hard cleaning other people homes and her illness is caused by so much chemical exposure. She and her family were as poor as church mice and she did without to help her children go to school as well as have clothes to wear. She is a wonderfull woman, Mother, Wife and friend to all.

    When you have a moment, please remember her, and her family, in your thoughts and prayers.
    Thanks.

    Don Hamilton
    LM #201
    Tuy Hoa 69-70
    2nd Vice-President

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  • New Member Introduction -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Sun, Aug 02 2009, 15:24:57 PDT (97-120-195-60.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.195.60)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Vince Araiza to membership in the VSPA. Vince served at Phu Cat in 1967-68, and now lives in California. He says he learned about VSPA from our jam-packed, constantly growing website.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • New Member Introduction -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Sun, Aug 02 2009, 18:37:38 PDT (97-120-195-60.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.195.60)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming Johnny Keel to membership in the VSPA. Johnny served at U-Tapao in 1974-76, and currently lives in Texas. He found out about VSPA through the SAC Elite Guard.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • New Member Introduction -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Tue, Jul 28 2009, 19:19:35 PDT (97-115-70-212.ptld.qwest.net/97.115.70.212)
    Ladies and Gents,

    Please join me in welcoming George E. (Ed) Pogue to membership in the VSPA. Ed served at Cam Ranh Bay in 1967-68, and currently lives in Missouri. He found VSPA, like most of our applicants for the last few years, by finding our website.

    Welcome Home!

    Phil

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  • Photos -- Glen H. Myers, Fri, Jul 31 2009, 7:40:54 PDT (host671420037130.direcway.com/67.142.130.37)
    I am looking for photos from Nha Trang (1965-66), Phan Rang (early 1971) and Da Nang (middle to late 1971. If anyone has photos from these bases and would be willing to share them I would appreciate it. My email: spanishbroom@yahoo.com.

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  • Security Police Shield -- Willie Squires LM#305, Thu, Jul 30 2009, 3:42:30 PDT (user.connect.gpo.gov/162.140.67.10)
    Yesterday I attended the 6th anniversary meeting of the Eagle Chapter of the AFSFA at Andrews , AFB. The guest speaker was MG Hertog. She said that the Air Force was in the process of changing the dies to the SP shield to read Security Forces. Better Hold on to the ones that read Security Police.

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  • Cold War Certificate -- Jim Costello, Sat, Aug 01 2009, 12:21:32 PDT (cache-ntc-ac10.proxy.aol.com/207.200.116.139)
    Has anyone every heard of the Cold War Certificate program? A friend sent me the info.

    https://www.hrc.army.mil/site/active/tagd/coldwar/default.htm.

    Seems on the up and up, but only looked at the site. Thought it better to check with the guys for more information. Any thoughts or info is always most appreciated. Thanks.

    Jim Costello LM#552

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  • Remains -- Joe Baden, Sun, Aug 02 2009, 5:45:49 PDT (ip98-183-150-72.hr.hr.cox.net/98.183.150.72)
    FLASH !!!
    On the news this Sunday monring, they announced that the remains of Scott Specter had been found. This is the only MIA from the first Gulf War and now he can come home.
    This gives us hope for our MIA's.

    Joe Baden
    LM
    Phu Cat, A. B.

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  • Taking Cover From Rain -- chaplain steve, Fri, Jul 31 2009, 18:06:05 PDT (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
    Probably K9 was a bit more active at this but did anyone out there recall putting up some temporary covering on certain posts ?? WE ewre notorious for it during the rainy season. Our perimeter looked like a shanty town. The day guys had to knock them down and the night guys put them back up. We gave our poor NCOIC a pretty hard time over it. Sorry Rick Julian...sir.

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  • Rain, continued... -- chaplain steve, Fri, Jul 31 2009, 20:19:47 PDT (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
    Monsoon Season

    You bring your poncho with you
    At first during the rainy season.
    But at night on post you wonder what's the reason.
    You are wet to the bone no matter what.
    In Vietnam you are either soaking wet or burning hot.
    War dog wants to get under your rain gear.
    On nights like this, pounding water from the sky is about all you can hear.
    At times I let Kobuc under to get dry.
    Soon we'd quarter our post and it seemed like he was asking why?

    It could stop in a moment then go for a week.
    If caught outside for shelter you'd seek.
    Sand and water everywhere...
    In your pants and in your hair.
    The enemy didn't mind working in the rain.
    As he'd visit our base time and again.

    Leant woes were built by k-9 troops on post at night.
    They were great but at daylight it became a pitiful sight.
    The Commander chewed out our boss and said we built a shanty town.
    That stretched out along the perimeter, all the way around.
    Our Boss chewed us out as down the chain of command it came.
    We were guilty and took the blame.
    They'd knock them down but suddenly they'd appear.
    Then the Yelling once more we'd hear.

    The yelling and building both stopped with the end of the rain.

    As things went to normal once again.
    Looking back it was kind of fun.
    Except when sand got in your gun.

    The rain back here in the States doesn't bother me today.
    Cause I felt the Monsoon Season of Cam Ranh Bay.

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  • Rains of the Past -- Jack Smith 377th SPS 68069 LM 453, Sat, Aug 01 2009, 6:08:56 PDT (adsl-99-159-253-66.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net/99.159.253.66)
    Since we are talking about the rain here's one I wrote awhile back. Jack
    Rains of the Past

    How strange my life now seems
    Though older still haunted by the dreams
    Things I put behind me years ago
    Now come back and sadden me so

    Trying to forget the past is a useless task
    As I grow much older extremely fast
    Questions still weigh upon my mind
    Seeking answers I wish not to find

    Coming home forty years ago with pain
    Wanting to lock away the jungle and the rain
    That ever present rain that soaked the soul
    Steaming hot the air but the rain so cold

    Never losing that feeling of single loneliness
    Searching through the dark for brothers in arms to trust
    Memories of the ones lost still fresh
    Knowing we all tried our best

    An almost forgotten war in history
    So many not knowing its mystery
    Soon we that fought in that distance place
    Will fade and disappear without a trace

    History books will try to explain that Vietnam war
    You can not grasp what we had to bore
    Unless you were there in the rain at night
    Cold shivering and full of fright
    Edwin J Smith
    The Old Cowboy Poet
    Feb 10th 2008

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  • Records -- Jim Burke, LM 466, 366 SPS Da Nang Tan My, Fri, Jul 31 2009, 23:18:49 PDT (99-4-70-162.lightspeed.bkfdca.sbcglobal.net/99.4.70.162)
    I have had a couple of you contact me for the web site to obtain a couple of your military records. Go to http://vetrecs.archives.gov. Click on evetrecs and fill out the application. In section two, check undeleted seperation papers. In section three, in the comments section, that is where you ask for a copy of all your military records. If you do not do that you will only receive a copy of your DD 214. God Bless all of you and God Bless the USA and God Bless the VSPA.

    Jim

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  • Post Check Main Gate -- Jack Smith 377th SPS 68-69 LM 453, Thu, Jul 30 2009, 5:03:23 PDT (adsl-99-168-75-149.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net/99.168.75.149)
    08:00 zulu. The main Gate is open. Fine report from the VA. The tumor has not increased in size. As of now I will not be taking anymore radiation unless it starts to grow again. Waiting on the PSA count now. Will not have to return to the VA till Nov. I want to thank all of you for the prayers. They work. God bless all of you and see you all in AZ Jack the Old Cowboy Poet

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  • New Member - -- Tony Niemotka (great), Fri, Jul 31 2009, 7:16:38 PDT (adsl-75-3-129-145.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net/75.3.129.145)
    Brothers, I've been so busy with other things I keep forgeting 2 post my thoughts. Well, after a couple of yrs emailing Pat Houseworth, Harry Bevan and the late Phil Lange, I finally became a member. Wish I did it from the start, but I'm here now and it's great to hear from others who were with me at Nha Trang (Dec'68-Dec'69). Talk 2 u all later. Take care and God bless.

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  • Tuy Hoa 7-29-1968 0137 hours -- John Lochte PC & TH 68-69 LM#556, Wed, Jul 29 2009, 4:57:04 PDT (CSC-CHD-FCH-3-CGEN-i-pub.amer.csc.com/20.137.18.53)
    Hello Brothers!

    How many of you out there remember that early morning in July? I was on standby strike team and was awakened by that GOD AWFUL claxton horn mounted in the corner of that small room!

    What a long night it was.......

    Welcome Home!

    John E Lochte
    Phu Cat and Tuy Hoa 68-69
    LM #556

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  • uniform ahirt -- robert r boring, Thu, Jul 30 2009, 18:20:35 PDT (ip72-218-56-80.hr.hr.cox.net/72.218.56.80)
    Hi brothers been a long time that I have looked at message board, The question I have is this:Is there anyway I could get a picture of the uniform shirt that alot of you wore at the washington d.c. reunion. I have a place where I can get the shirt but I do not know what I am aloud to wear on shirt. I attend alot of veteran affairs and would like to show the colors. Thanks Bob welcome home Nha Trang 66-67

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  • Resignation -- Joe Pizzimenti, Tue, Jul 28 2009, 8:32:40 PDT (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
    As of this date, July 28th 2009, I have resigned my membership in the VSPA, I have canceled my Hotel reservations in Arizona and contacted Reunion Brat, who state they will refund my registration monies.

    I have no desire to belittle anyone in an open forum,If anyone desired to know why I resigned , contact me at bigjoepizz1@aol.com and I will reply.

    To each member WELCOME HOME BROTHERS

    Joe Pizzimenti
    Former LM 557

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  • Post Check Main Gate -- Jack Smith 377th SPS 68-69 LM 453, Wed, Jul 29 2009, 7:14:01 PDT (adsl-99-174-160-71.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net/99.174.160.71)
    It has been some time since the main gtae has reported in. Here goes. Its 10;05 zulu Its back to the VA today for a follow up on my cancer treatments. I took a battery of radiation treatments from Dec till the end of Feb 42 in all. Now I have to go and have the old blood tests and probes (oh the pain) done today to see how I fared. When I first started the treatments my PSA was 17.9 after the treatments it was 8.7 now thats better but still not good. The Sawbones say it should be somewhere between 1.0 and 4.0. So I will not know the final count for a week or two after the check up today. Of course you guys who have been through this know that it is also a large burden on the mind. So that's the Main gate report for today. The main gate will be 10-7 for now. Will return 10-10 later today
    Jack the Old Cowboy Poet

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  • Joe Pizzimenti's membership resignation -- Don Poss, Tue, Jul 28 2009, 14:06:24 PDT (cpe-75-82-158-38.socal.res.rr.com/75.82.158.38)
    Today, Joe Pizzimenti posted his membership resignation on VSPA’s public bulletin board (see below) and sent emails to members misstating facts arising from his submitting a patch for publication at VSPA. Joe alludes to his belief of an injustice because his request has not been met in a timely manner. Joe has put words in my mouth that I did not speak. In fact, Joe has not conveyed any personal distress or feelings of ill treatment to me in any way, yet phrases his resignation as if he is an aggrieved victim and I am the calloused-cause of his distress.

    As Joe has chosen a public format for his grievance it is only fair to respond on that platform so that all those whom he has included may understand the totality of our correspondence and the validity of his complaint.

    Current VSPA Members Only may go to 'Joe Pizzimenti Resignation' (http://www.vspa.com/aspprotect/resignation-joe-pizzamenti-2009.asp) and review all the emails exchanged between Joe and I, and form your own opinion concerning Joe's resignation.

    Don Poss,
    VSPA Webmaster

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  • New Poem -- Jack Smith 377th SPS 68-69 LM 453, Mon, Jul 27 2009, 8:51:26 PDT (adsl-75-42-209-227.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net/75.42.209.227)
    Good morning mu brothers. There has not been a poem for a week or two so i wrote one this morning that hope you like. Take note Phil Carroll this might be about you. Jack

    Walking Alone In the Dark

    Dark comes and it’s just the two of you
    One talking the other only listening
    A one way conversation both knowing what to do
    Walking alone in the dark

    Even though one does not speak
    Each know what they are thinking
    Threats of all types they seek
    Walking alone in the dark

    Making you feel secure and safe
    He rubs your leg with his face
    You place in him a great faith
    Walking alone in the dark

    You stoke his head with your hand
    That great wonderful K-9 dog
    With you and you alone he will make a stand
    Walking alone in the dark

    Both knowing what to do in danger
    He is your security as you are his
    Beyond being each others protector
    Walking alone in the dark

    There are others that you guard
    They know not that you are there
    Only that from them the enemy is barred
    Walking alone in the dark

    Sleeping safe as you keep watch
    Those unsung heroes and their dogs
    Men and their K-9 are all topnotch
    Walking alone in the dark

    Edwin J. Smith
    The Old Cowboy Poet
    July 27th 2009

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  • A Dedicated poem -- Jackie R. Kays, Tue, Jul 28 2009, 14:11:29 PDT (customer121_142.grm.net/216.139.121.142)
    A tribute to the soldiers of the invasion of Europe…D-Day
    (6th of June 1944)



    Where Valor Sleeps and Red Poppies Grow

    On this foreign soil Old Glory still
    flies over row by row of white crosses,
    marking this hallowed ground where
    each courageous soldier lies.
    Thousands fought and died for the
    Red White and Blue and Country ties.

    Flag and Country these brave soldiers
    shall never again see, for their lives
    were sacrificed for you and me.

    Buried so far away from their homeland,
    overlooking once bloody beaches of sand.
    In tombs with white crosses on this
    wind swept hill, among fields of red
    poppies growing so tranquil.

    Yet, as the years pass, with tears of grief
    and pride, family, friends, and patriots
    will forever remember how each hero
    so bravely died.

    Old Glory shall forever fly
    over these white crosses, row
    by row, valor sleeps but never
    dies, and a single red poppy
    shall forever remind us of
    our ties.


    Jackie R. Kays
    © 7/26/09

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  • Wonders of Nature........... -- Bill Morris, Tue, Jul 28 2009, 15:34:43 PDT (68-187-33-39.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com/68.187.33.39)

    A beautiful slideshow of natural wonders..... your eyes will love the photos. Just copy and paste the below:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32042611/ns/travel-picture_stories/displaymode/1247/?beginSlide=1&beginChapter=1&beginTab=1






    ~~ VSPA -- second to none. ~~

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  • Personalities -- chaplain steve, Tue, Jul 28 2009, 13:06:43 PDT (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
    Everyone has quirks and everyone has bad days. Leadership of course needs talented folks that are willing to do what needs to be done to have an organization. I do not need to know or like every member. I guess my skin just isn't that thin any more. We all however are a reflection of the group we identify with. Ours is a proud heritage. If some one offends me I am to go to them personally and if I get no satisfaction I am to take two or three with me to iron it out. If that doesn't work I bring it to the group. If a person is wrong they should be confronted. The group is bigger than any one person. Being a pastor I've known people that leave the church being upset but were not interested in resolving an issue. They just wanted out because their feelings got ruffled. I continue to support VSPA. We are and should continue to be accountable to each other in what we do.
    Chaplain Steve

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  • Military Records -- Jim Burke LM 466, Mon, Jul 27 2009, 23:37:24 PDT (99-4-70-162.lightspeed.bkfdca.sbcglobal.net/99.4.70.162)
    Just got a copy of my military records today. Saw some interesting preformance reports that I did not know I had. Or don't remember. Found out that I had been given the assignment of Flight Chief for A flight at Tan My. Don't remember anyone telling me I was a flight chief, but then I still would have worked the back tower. Well, all of you should send away for your complete records not just your DD 214. Funny to see the oath that you took when you first enlisted. Something in there about protecting the US from "domestic threats". Well, y'all have a great night, thanks for the poem Jack.

    Jim Burke 366 SPS Da Nang, Tan My

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  • I worked in the Orderly room, Pleiku AB, 633rd Security Police, during late 1969 thru Spring 1970 -- William Vernon Carter (I worked for CMSergeant Clyde), Fri, Jul 17 2009, 19:39:50 PDT (adsl-75-21-118-8.dsl.rcfril.sbcglobal.net/75.21.118.8)
    Anyone who may know me or CMSergent Clyde please respond.

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  • Nugent Jackson LM013 -- John Jackson LM149 (happy), Sat, Jul 25 2009, 7:13:02 PDT (147ob.scansafe.net/72.37.171.108)
    I talked to Nugent's wife (Lora), she said he came through the operation very well. The doctor removed all the cancer in the stomach. He will be off his feet for awhile but said he will make the re-union.

    thanks to everyone

    John
    NKP 69/70

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  • A Great Day -- Dave Maltzan CRB 68-69 (Happy), Sat, Jul 25 2009, 10:26:55 PDT (AC83D866.ipt.aol.com/172.131.216.102)
    Thought I'd try to bring a little sunshine into your lives. We certainly could use a little sunshine up here in Michigan.

    Anyhow, 45 years ago today the prettiest little 17 year old girl walked down the aisle, to meet the preacher and her 21 year old husband to be and we both said, "I do". We had good times and we've had hard times. I wouldn't change any one of those years for anything in the world.

    Welcome Home Brothers and Sisters

    Dave

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  • Las Vegas, mom and Larry -- Don Poss, Sat, Jul 25 2009, 11:58:20 PDT (cpe-75-82-158-38.socal.res.rr.com/75.82.158.38)
    Gents:

    I went to Las Vegas for a few days for my mom's 84th birthday, and she is doing well. I also drove my brother Larry (VSPA Associate member and web host) to the hospital for reconstructive surgery on his leg, ankle, and right foot. He is home and recovering, and sniveling, so I guess he will have a full recovery if he can take it easy and unplug his laptop from his navel for a day or two. I know he checks his email with his iPhone (he sent me a gross photo of his foot), so if you want to send an email and say 'hi' then he would probably appreciate having something to do (email: larry@larryposs.com). His little woman, Ann, had eye surgery the day before his, so her daughter is down taking care of them and making sure they behave themselves.

    I also had a nice visit with my brother Jerry, and his son Josh, who just DEROSd from Iraq. Josh can eat 24/7...I remember those days...and never gain an ounce.

    I'm playing catchup with emails today. I hope to see you all at the reunion.

    Don Poss

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  • Where is the Nose -- Sam Lewis, Sat, Jul 25 2009, 15:35:53 PDT (pool-70-110-1-97.roa.east.verizon.net/70.110.1.97)
    Where is the King Of Pops Nose? Tsssk Tsssk !


    This morning as I was finishing up watching Fox News before heading to the VA Hospital for the CMA's annual cookout with the patients there they came out with a story that ws odd to say the least . Seems from all the operations to make MJ"s nose little and patitte ,in his later yrs with the results of all that plastic surery to the nose it began to disinergrate . He had a fake nose made up that he wore in public that wasnt on during his passing but was in the room at the time according to those close to him. The family seems to think the police or someone with them took it when they gathered up the evidence . Be on the lookout on EBay and other online auctions ,it could very well show up there and the family wants it back desperately..
    Now how much would an original MJ fake nose Bring? SIX FIGURES MAYBE AS CRAZY AS SOME ARE ABOUT HIS LEGACY. GOD HELP US ALL , HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND and pray for our Troops. sam

    BTW we fed about 15O patients out of the Psych ward at our annual cookout at the VA Hospital in Salem ,Va. today. We had them come out into a fenced in area out of lockup for the afternoon. They were so appreciatiive .

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  • Gates & Towers photo project -- Don Poss, Sun, Jul 26 2009, 21:27:18 PDT (cpe-75-82-158-38.socal.res.rr.com/75.82.158.38)
    Gents: Thanks for the great response sending in your Gates and Towers photos! I have received about three dozen new photos which will be included in the new Gates & Towers project. It's not too late to dig out your scrape books and attach those photos to an email to me.

    Don Poss

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  • Another AF Museum Visit -- Pat Houseworth (A little warmer this go round), Fri, Jul 24 2009, 5:02:55 PDT (cpe-98-28-33-191.columbus.res.rr.com/98.28.33.191)
    My wife Patricia and I took our second 70{one way} mile trip from Celina to the Air Force Museum at Wright-Patterson yesterday. We were there last January for the VSPA/Sky Cop "Mini-Reunion", when 60(counting wives and close friends) or so former AF Cops from SE Asia got together for an afternoon of BS and touring. It was a great time, but the temps if I recall were in the single digits...yesterday was a bit warmer, about 76 under mostly cloudy skies.

    The good news is, the painting and restoration projects are complete, and if you're in the area, you should consider stopping by for the day, although no way you can see the whole place in one day.

    It's a little early, and several mini reunions and the big event in Phoenix are still on the agenda...but I'm thinking another event at W-P sometime in late February or early March 2010 might be a good idea. This time, if those who want to attend want to get a block of motel rooms within shouting distance, that might also be in the cards. But it will still be an informal get together...we will all come as go as individuals or in small groups as we wish.

    E-Mail me with your thoughts on dates and doing a "overnighter"...never to early to get things started.

    pat.houseworth@gmail.com

    and you can stop by my blog if interested in seeing the stories, photos, and linking up to the AF Museum:

    http://patsdailyrant.blogspot.com/

    Pat Houseworth LM #575{in Honor of Phil Lange 1932-2009}
    Celina, Ohio

    14th SPS Nha Trang 1969
    377th SPS Tan Son Nhut 1970

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  • Thousands see astronaut Buzz Aldrin on Hornet....... -- Bill Morris, Sun, Jul 26 2009, 1:36:27 PDT (68-187-33-39.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com/68.187.33.39)

    Thousands packed onto the aircraft carrier Hornet yesterday (25 July 2009) to hear Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin describe his experience as the second man on the moon -- returning to commemorate the 40th anniversary of that historic mission.




    Entire story at (copy and paste):

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/07/25/BA5V18V6J7.DTL

    .... thought some of you might like to read the article.

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  • Robert McNamara -- Mike Tillman KY, Tue, Jul 07 2009, 5:02:31 PDT (74-129-173-194.dhcp.insightbb.com/74.129.173.194)
    I read that McNamara had passed on. My first thought was "Good riddance to bad rubbish". I know that is probably a pretty simplistic view, but I'm a pretty simple guy! PR 66

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  • MOH Posthumously for Sgt Jared C. Monti -- Phil Arcadipane, Fri, Jul 24 2009, 10:46:55 PDT (c-76-127-210-210.hsd1.ma.comcast.net/76.127.210.210)
    Sgt Jared Monti from Raynham, Mass has been posthumously named to receive the Congressional Medal of Honor this week for giving his life as he tried to rescue wounded comrades under heavy fire in Afghanistan in 2006. Jared grew up with my son playing sports and attending grammer and high school together before entering the Army and assigned to the 10th Mountain Div. out of New York. He previously was awarded two Bronze Stars w/V for combat action and two Purple Hearts and was due to return home within two months of being killed. I posted this info for it will be the first MOH that President Obama awards since elected to office. I hope they give these new troops the reconition they truely deserve. Jared's Dad, Paul Monti received the telephone call this past Tuesday from the President himself and the MOH will be awarded at the WHite House this fall. Phil

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  • Agent Orange -- John Jackson LM149 (hopefull), Wed, Jul 22 2009, 20:50:45 PDT (c-76-121-217-62.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/76.121.217.62)
    I just got a call from my brother Nugent Jackson, LM013, 377th 70/71. Nugent informed me he is going in to surgery tomorrow to have half of his stomoch removed because of a bleeding ulser. The ulser was on top a a cancer tumor caused by Agent Orange. I will find out tomorrow how it went. Keep a good thought for him and I'll post the out-come. Thanks...

    John NKP 69/70

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  • AGENT ORANGE LINKED TO HEART DISEASE AND PARKINSONS -- JIM (BUDDHA) LEBOWITZ, Fri, Jul 24 2009, 11:57:43 PDT (ppp-47.255.lw.fea.net/216.115.255.47)
    Latest research shows that there is a link between Agent Orange and heart and parkinsons disease. Check out the following.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090724/ap_on_go_ot/us_veterans_agent_orange

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  • Space program...is it worth the cost? -- Jackie R. Kays, Tue, Jul 21 2009, 18:10:43 PDT (customer121_172.grm.net/216.139.121.172)
    White Paper
    “The Space Program cost…is it worth it?
    What’s your opinion?
    Read at: Jackspoems.com

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