- A Big Thank You To All !! -- Gary Steele, Fri, Nov 20 2009, 12:53:50 PST (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
This is a belated {Thank You} for the award presented to me at the Reunion for working with some wonderful educators and students from all over the world. This class that I do started out with just memory and a few pics I managed to save but as I learned of our VSPA site and found out more of our history my friends and I expanded it too show and tell just what all of you did ,for had it not been for all of you and this site we would be limited to what to say and see. I am Proud to accept the award not only for me but for each and everyone of you who have made my class a sucess. With deepest appreciation--THANK YOU!!!! A little oops here. The award is still enroute to me via the far west, Grand Titons, a rock slide, auto repair and illness delay but it is comimg, as Al Grbosky says ,Gary a little side trip and for you that know Al that means , I am in South America now { forgot to tell ya} but will be home soon,lol. Al- Thanks, :} Gary Steele.
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- H1N1 Flu -- Glenn Wilson (Refused an H1N1 flu shot), Fri, Nov 20 2009, 6:29:59 PST (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
I was refused my request for the H1N1 flu shot at the VA Hospital. Reason?.........TOO OLD! I think it is common knowledge that there is a definite shortage of the serum. I have at least four serious underlying diseases along with the propensity to catch everything except a lucky number in the state lottery. AFTER THINKING IT OVER..........Not complaining, mind you; I'd rather be old and healthy than young and sick. Are there any other VSPA members who fall into this category?
"Old Timer" Glenn LM#153 (I think)
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- Re: H1N1 Flu -- Jack Smith 377th SPS 68-69 LM 453, Fri, Nov 20 2009, 8:48:54 PST (adsl-75-60-223-54.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net/75.60.223.54)
Re: H1N1 Flu -- Ray Rash, Fri, Nov 20 2009, 10:02:08 PST (ppp-70-242-231-178.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net/70.242.231.178)
Re: H1N1 Flu -- Don Hamilton, LM 201, Fri, Nov 20 2009, 11:31:22 PST (ip68-231-100-12.ph.ph.cox.net/68.231.100.12)
Re: H1N1 Flu -- Don Poss, Fri, Nov 20 2009, 12:52:12 PST (166-205-136-210.mobile.mymmode.com/166.205.136.210)
- Photographs -- Neil Kessler, Thu, Nov 19 2009, 14:55:21 PST (pool-96-243-197-145.tampfl.fios.verizon.net/96.243.197.145)
Does anyone know if we can get copies of the photos posted on the beginning of the VSPA website, the 377th SPS 4 Dec 1966,or who to contact about them.
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- Purple Heart medals -- John Schwendler, Wed, Nov 18 2009, 17:47:30 PST (67-148-62-22.dia.static.azci.net/67.148.62.22)
I have been following the Ft. Hood tragedy. There is now talk of awarding Purple Hearts to the deceased. I have no problem with this. However, unless it was already done for my fellow cops at NKP who died during the Mayaquez Rescue Mission, I would like an effort made to present their families with the same award.
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- Politics & SPAM email -- Don Poss, Wed, Nov 18 2009, 10:38:39 PST (166-205-131-126.mobile.mymmode.com/166.205.131.126)
VSPA does not endorse nor permit requests to SPAM email any buisness, nor for political purposes. We would not welcome such coordinated efforts against us either.
Don Poss
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- Oklahoma Mini-Get Together -- William (Pete) Piazza, LM #141, Tue, Nov 17 2009, 18:14:59 PST (ip68-97-103-141.ok.ok.cox.net/68.97.103.141)
Hi fellow members, I would like to let you all know that we will be working on the next mini-get together scheduled for 30 Jan 2010 in Midwest City, OK. As of right now, the plan is to meet at 1600 hours, 30 Jan (Saturday) at the Santa Fe Steak House on SE 29th St, just east of Air Depot Blvd in Midwest City, OK like we did last year. If you plan to attend, then please let me know so I can give them a number of folks coming so we can setup a area for us. Also, if you plan to stay at one of the local hotels, let me know and I will send you a list of those close to Tinker AFB. TKS. Pete
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- Agent Orange Other Than In The War Zones? -- Gary Steele, Tue, Nov 17 2009, 15:23:00 PST (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
Already over the past few days I have been asked about exposure to herbicides spraying {A.O.}on bases overseas and stateside. It seems that some of the troops were spraying the chemicals around refueling areas and areas deemed fit to be sprayed by command.These guys were Civil Eng/ Redhorse personnel who from what I have heard were just like most doing what we were told and not knowing the effects that could arise from it. If anyone has any info please put it on the board so they can see it, When you think of it there were I bet a lot of exposure to people who had no idea of the out come. The other issue is that some are told you missed the filing timeline for such issue,s ,bullcrap on that, if you were exposed you should be taken care of whether at home or abroad since we all depended on each other to complete the mission and they deserved coverage too. Pop in anything you would like so the guys can see what is happening that they may not be aware of, Thanks All. Gary Steele, Binh Thuy 68-69
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Jesus -- chaplain steve, Mon, Nov 16 2009, 20:37:54 PST (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
Someone has said: "You will never know that Jesus is all you need until Jesus is all you've got."
Henry Wadsworth Lonfellow...." For age is opportunity no less than youth itself, thouin another dress, and as the evening twilight fades away the sky is filled with stars, invisible by day."
Good night all...:)
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- Lap Blankets -- Stan Morris, LM-254, Mon, Nov 16 2009, 18:57:08 PST (h241.204.88.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/75.88.204.241)
A few days ao there was a posting pertaining to the volunteers who are doing the lap blankets for the wheel chair veterans. Last week while at the VA hospital in Temple, TX the wife and I met a lady who also works as a volunteer at the info desk that has make over 1100 lap blankets over the past few years. Praise the Lord for those who care.
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- 12th SFS and 37th SFS Going Away -- William (Pete) Piazza, LM #141, Mon, Nov 16 2009, 17:58:30 PST (ip68-97-103-141.ok.ok.cox.net/68.97.103.141)
Those of you that were at Phoenix Reunion, will remember when I mentioned the changes coming to Lackland and Randolph AFBs, well here is the current info on that. Pete
As a result of the 2005 Base Realignment and Closure Joint Basing plan for San Antonio, the 502nd ABW - with Air Force Brig. Gen. Len Patrick at the helm - will unite installation support functions at Randolph and Lackland Air Force bases and Fort Sam Houston. The new air base wing will become the largest entity in the Air Education and Training Command, Mr. Treviño said.
On Jan. 31, the 12th MSG - which now reports to Col. Jacqueline Van Ovost, 12th Flying Training Wing commander - will become the 902nd MSG. The 12th MSG comprises three divisions - civil engineer, logistics readiness and trainer development - and four squadrons - force support, communications, contracting and security forces.
Also on Jan. 31, the 37th MSG at Lackland will become the 802nd MSG and on April 9, the 502nd MSG at Fort Sam Houston will activate.
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- Bill Marshall's Wife, Rosemary, Passed Away -- Newell M. Swartz, Mon, Nov 16 2009, 12:01:50 PST (71-36-186-129.phnx.qwest.net/71.36.186.129)
On Saturday evening, the 14th of November, Rosemary Marshall passed away. Rosemary had battled mesothilioma, a form of cancer, for the past four and a half years. Bill and Rosemary have been married for 39 wonderful years and Bill refers to her as the love of his life. Bill met Rosemary in Australia while on R&R from Vietnam. A memorial service will be scheduled for a future date. Bill requests no flowers, just warm thoughts and prayers from his friends in the VSPA. Newell
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Re: Bill Marshall's Wife, Rosemary, Passed Away -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Mon, Nov 16 2009, 12:07:08 PST (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
Re: Bill Marshall's Wife, Rosemary, Passed Away -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Mon, Nov 16 2009, 12:10:12 PST (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
- Re: Bill Marshall's Wife, Rosemary, Passed Away -- Jackie R. Kays, Mon, Nov 16 2009, 13:15:46 PST (customer121_251.grm.net/216.139.121.251)
- Re: Bill Marshall's Wife, Rosemary, Passed Away -- Phil Arcadipane, Tue, Nov 17 2009, 14:59:55 PST (c-71-192-168-151.hsd1.ma.comcast.net/71.192.168.151)
- Re: Bill Marshall's Wife, Rosemary, Passed Away -- Sam Lewis, Mon, Nov 16 2009, 12:11:01 PST (sslvpn.nrvcs.org/64.4.105.162)
Re: Bill Marshall's Wife, Rosemary, Passed Away -- Don Poss, Mon, Nov 16 2009, 12:35:08 PST (166-205-131-080.mobile.mymmode.com/166.205.131.80)
Re: Bill Marshall's Wife, Rosemary, Passed Away -- Randy "Ramps" Stutler (Deepest Regrets), Mon, Nov 16 2009, 14:12:10 PST (host6714200137168.direcway.com/67.142.168.137)
- Re: Bill Marshall's Wife, Rosemary, Passed Away -- William (Pete) Piazza, LM #141, Mon, Nov 16 2009, 16:30:19 PST (ip68-97-103-141.ok.ok.cox.net/68.97.103.141)
- Re: Bill Marshall's Wife, Rosemary, Passed Away -- Janet Matthews-Wise, Mon, Nov 16 2009, 16:52:30 PST (24-196-19-136.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com/24.196.19.136)
Re: Bill Marshall's Wife, Rosemary, Passed Away -- Dob Hamilton, LM 201, Mon, Nov 16 2009, 17:08:36 PST (ip68-231-100-12.ph.ph.cox.net/68.231.100.12)
Re: Bill Marshall's Wife, Rosemary, Passed Away -- Pat Houseworth-LM#575 (Hometown Friend), Mon, Nov 16 2009, 19:56:52 PST (cpe-98-28-33-191.columbus.res.rr.com/98.28.33.191)
- Re: Bill Marshall's Wife, Rosemary, Passed Away -- Dave Maltzan LM 592, Tue, Nov 17 2009, 0:20:33 PST (ip-74-85.197.chesaning.speednetllc.com/74.85.197.147)
- Re: Bill Marshall's Wife, Rosemary, Passed Away -- John Lochte LM#556, Tue, Nov 17 2009, 4:29:34 PST (CSC-CHD-FCH-3-CGEN-i-pub.amer.csc.com/20.137.18.53)
- Re: Bill Marshall's Wife, Rosemary, Passed Away -- Carl L Chamberlin LM #504 Phu Cat 67/68, Tue, Nov 17 2009, 6:45:25 PST (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
- Re: Bill Marshall's Wife, Rosemary, Passed Away -- Gary Steele, Tue, Nov 17 2009, 7:45:01 PST (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
- Re: Bill Marshall's Wife, Rosemary, Passed Away -- Erlyce Pekas, Tue, Nov 17 2009, 16:32:45 PST (74-202-189-250.static.twtelecom.net/74.202.189.250)
Re: Bill Marshall's Wife, Rosemary, Passed Away -- Chaplain Jim L/M 442, Wed, Nov 18 2009, 16:17:07 PST (pool-71-178-4-198.washdc.fios.verizon.net/71.178.4.198)
- Re: Bill Marshall's Wife, Rosemary, Passed Away -- Ron Eberhart L/M 47 (Sympathy), Thu, Nov 19 2009, 7:10:02 PST (NoHost/76.206.22.199)
- Huge fuel tank blown up, Nha Trang, 69-70 -- Jim Mitchell, Mon, Nov 16 2009, 11:51:56 PST (adsl-074-170-153-195.sip.msy.bellsouth.net/74.170.153.195)
I was attached to the 14th Trans Bn, Nha Trang, Vietnam from Nov 1969 to March 1970. During that time a rocket attack blew up a huge fuel tank at the AFB there. Anyone have a date on that attack? Thanks.
jim
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- Re: Huge fuel tank blown up, Nha Trang, 69-70 -- Gary Jones, LM-363, Mon, Nov 16 2009, 12:41:21 PST (cpe-098-025-041-213.sc.res.rr.com/98.25.41.213)
- Re: Huge fuel tank blown up, Nha Trang, 69-70 -- Charles Penley, 377th Security Police Squadron, Tan Son Nhut, Mon, Nov 16 2009, 13:51:19 PST (68-118-110-78.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com/68.118.110.78)
- Re: Huge fuel tank blown up, Nha Trang, 69-70 -- Bruce Thompson, Mon, Nov 16 2009, 14:30:57 PST (h34.237.17.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/98.17.237.34)
- Re: Huge fuel tank blown up, Nha Trang, 69-70 -- Jim Costello, Mon, Nov 16 2009, 15:36:41 PST (cache-ntc-ac10.proxy.aol.com/207.200.116.139)
Re: Huge fuel tank blown up, Nha Trang, 69-70 -- Pat Houseworth-LM#575 (July 1, 69-December 27 69), Mon, Nov 16 2009, 20:04:18 PST (cpe-98-28-33-191.columbus.res.rr.com/98.28.33.191)
- Contacting commanding officer -- Mike Farley (Help), Mon, Nov 16 2009, 7:34:12 PST (adsl-217-126-98.asm.bellsouth.net/68.217.126.98)
I am trying to get in touch with my former commander, Major Ed Johnson 3rd SPS. I believe that he left Bien Hoa AB for a job in the pentagon. This is in regards to a service award. Thanks
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- Zippo's Wanted -- Mikey, Sun, Nov 15 2009, 23:58:33 PST (c-98-208-91-95.hsd1.ca.comcast.net/98.208.91.95)
As most of you know, I have two son's in the military: a Marine Rifleman, and a Navy Seabee. I would like to get them, as Christmas gifts, an appropriate Zippo that had been in combat. I'm watching Ebay and Craigslist. Any ideas? Thanks folks. Happy Turkey Day
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- DO WE REMEMBER THESE ? -- Bill Morris, Sat, Nov 14 2009, 20:26:03 PST (66-169-160-167.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com/66.169.160.167)
http://oldfortyfives.com/DYRT.htm
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and Happy 2010. ~~
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Veteran's Events of the Week -- Pat Dunne CM/LM40 (Proud), Sat, Nov 14 2009, 11:06:56 PST (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
Just getting caught up after beaucoup bizzy week. Last WEd the Dignity Memorial WALL arrived in town. We spent five long days/nights for ceremonies and tours and selling merch.
Thurs was school day and those middle school kids are a tough crowd. Turn out Fri-Sun was disappointing, but not surprising. Media coverage sucked. First wknd in Nov is start of season and there is way too much fun stuff going on in the area. Only 15 bikers showed up. One group of three and another of 12. I know that there is a lot more vets on bikes.
Mon found us at the Seminole ReZ for their Salute to Women Warriors. Big Medicine! My chapter bros went on to the Brighton Rez in Palm Beach for events on TUES and WED. Rest of us pulled detail on Wed in FtL at rededication of F-86 that was blowed off pedestal in '05 by Wilma.
Didn't get my picture in paper this year. Next time? Hawk
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- Free Fire Zone Post- -- Ed Narwid, Sat, Nov 14 2009, 8:13:23 PST (wisp.208.69.227.194.b2xonline.net/208.69.227.194)
I posted 2 patriotic messages on the Free Fire Zone section Bulletin Board. As I felt that was the place for them to be. Even though the general public should also be aware of this as well.
Ed Narwid
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- Agent Orange in Thailand -- Steve Wood, Sat, Nov 14 2009, 4:57:37 PST (adsl-75-13-42-236.dsl.toldoh.sbcglobal.net/75.13.42.236)
Check this site
Nhttp://bluewaternavy.org/newspage2.htmavy
Scroll down to VA Compensation and Pension Bulletin dated August 2009. It contains specific wording on the use of herbicides on Thai bases and it's exposure to Air Force Security Police working on the perimeters. Interesting reading.
Steve Wood
355th SPS
Takhli 69-70
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- THANKS -- RACHEL [ MOM ] LEHMAN (I FEEL GOOD AND I AM HAPPY.), Fri, Nov 13 2009, 22:52:27 PST (ip68-228-47-109.tc.ph.cox.net/68.228.47.109)
HELLO YO ALL AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE BEAUTIFUL BTRTHDAY CARDS FLOWERS PICTURES AND COOKEIS I HAD A GREAT DAY I HOPE YOU ALL HAD A HAPPY VETERANS DAY WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS .
HAVE A HAPPY TURKEY DAY TO . LOVE MOM LEHMAN
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- VALOR STOLEN Made easy -- Larry Gramps MSgt Ret, Fri, Nov 13 2009, 8:46:56 PST (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
After reading Stolen Valor about the puke in Palm Springs posing as a Marine, I got to looking on ebay. Like most of us, we always look out for cop stuff. I notice things out of place in the Vietnam Era portion of the collectables and may tell the seller their item is out of place in that catigory. I notice the made in Thieland Repo's
and the guy out of Austraila who usually has one of a kind extreamly rare fresh looking cop patches. (probably copied off our outstanding web site) What realy put a knot in my knickers today is I found on Ebay a site that sells blank award certificates. Thats right bro's all ya got to do is fill in the write up as its already signed and sealed. The site has em for all services and lots of medals from VN to the Gulf. Any one know how we can get this site removed and maybe get the owner sent on a little vacation? Next thing you will be able to get a DD form on there. Where do WE go from here to shut these things down? Larry LM 401
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Lt. Col. Ruth K. Sidisin "The Waving Nurse" @TSN -- William R Paddock LM#205, Fri, Nov 13 2009, 8:18:08 PST (adsl-074-245-198-228.sip.cae.bellsouth.net/74.245.198.228)
I just received an email from one of "Ruth's" friends. Her Birthday is next Friday, November 21, 2009...she will be 80 years old!!!
They are trying to get everyon e to send her birthday cards so that they can "fill up her room" at the nursing home with well wishes!!
Ruth's address is:
Lt. Col.(Ret) Ruth K. Sidisin
2825 Carter Road Unit 90
Sumter, South Carolina 29150
SO...all of you from Tan Son Nhut...that knew the "waving nurse"...send her a birthday card...
Best Always
William R (Bill) Paddock
VSPA LM #205
56th Security Police Sq., Nakhon Phanom RTAFB 1968
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Re: Lt. Col. Ruth K. Sidisin "The Waving Nurse" @TSN -- Ray Rash, Fri, Nov 13 2009, 8:22:36 PST (adsl-69-149-249-183.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net/69.149.249.183)
- Re: Lt. Col. Ruth K. Sidisin "The Waving Nurse" @TSN -- Gary Jones, LM-363, Fri, Nov 13 2009, 15:05:44 PST (cpe-098-025-041-213.sc.res.rr.com/98.25.41.213)
- Re: Lt. Col. Ruth K. Sidisin "The Waving Nurse" @TSN -- Jack Smith 377th SPS 68-69 LM 453, Fri, Nov 13 2009, 15:55:02 PST (adsl-99-168-75-229.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net/99.168.75.229)
- Re: Lt. Col. Ruth K. Sidisin "The Waving Nurse" @TSN -- Charles Penley, 377th Security Police Sq., Tan Son Nhut AB, Fri, Nov 13 2009, 20:05:26 PST (68-118-110-78.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com/68.118.110.78)
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The Warrior Song -- Jonathan Faulkner, 56th SPS, Fri, Nov 13 2009, 4:27:40 PST (car312.gly.fsu.edu/128.186.10.108)
Put this in you browser and smoke it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTs6a0ORdQU&feature=player_embedded
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- Country Songs.... -- Bill Morris, Thu, Nov 12 2009, 13:43:59 PST (66-169-160-167.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com/66.169.160.167)
After seeing the clip from Chaplain Jim about MSgt Bubba Beason (and the dog clips, too).... I started to think about two of the best -- in my humble opinion -- country songs ever sung..... the below is from YouTube.
He Stopped Loving Her Today
George Jones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz2aNifcy20
Old Dogs, Children and Watermelon Wine
Tom T. Hall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgaDhMg62jI
~~ Happy Holidays to one and all. God Bless. ~~
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Re: Country Songs.... -- Ramps (Good Stuff), Thu, Nov 12 2009, 14:47:03 PST (host6714200141168.direcway.com/67.142.168.141)
- Re: Country Songs.... -- Stan Morris,377th SPS, LM-254, Fri, Nov 13 2009, 3:37:25 PST (h241.204.88.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/75.88.204.241)
- Re: Country Songs.... -- Ramps (On the theme...,), Fri, Nov 13 2009, 16:26:44 PST (host6714200139168.direcway.com/67.142.168.139)
- USAF MSgt wins American Heroe Award -- Chaplain Jim L/M 442 VSPA Kennel Master, Thu, Nov 12 2009, 11:33:50 PST (pool-71-178-4-198.washdc.fios.verizon.net/71.178.4.198)
Copy and paste the following to see an interview with MSgt Bubba Beason. http://www.foxnews.com/search-results/m/27350996/sweet-ride.htm#q=sweet%20ride
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- Veterans get a warm welcome home -- Chaplain Jim L/M 442 - VSPA Kennnel Master, Thu, Nov 12 2009, 8:14:37 PST (pool-71-178-4-198.washdc.fios.verizon.net/71.178.4.198)
I got this from Sparkplug, videos of servicemen being welcomed home by their dogs and kids. Be ready with a Kleenex or two.
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- Stolen Valor -- Bill Morris, Wed, Nov 11 2009, 23:03:01 PST (66-169-160-167.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com/66.169.160.167)
Another case of Stolen Valor..... he never served in any branch of the U.S. military.
He faces a federal judge a day after Veterans' Day.
Full story at:
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/11/california.medals.charge/index.html?iref=werecommend
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- Awesome.... Thanks for posting it. -- Bill Morris, Wed, Nov 11 2009, 21:01:12 PST (66-169-160-167.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com/66.169.160.167)
On the VSPA main page there is currently a link there to:
http://www.war-stories.com/war-posters-usa-wars-menu.asp
....awesome war posters of the United States of America.
Thanks for posting it.
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The Willing Few (updated) -- chaplain steve, Wed, Nov 11 2009, 20:27:23 PST (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
The Willing Few
America is safe tonight.
The willing few stand guard.
They're asked to only do their part.
The willing few did start.
This war goes on and they're stretched out thin.
The willing few must win.
They keep going back to war.
The willing few are asked for more.
Is it right or fair to take so much from so few?
Are there not others that should be asking Tell me what I can do?
The stress of war must be shared to more than just the willing few.
Lest we push them too far
For war leaves a scar
And there is nothing left they can give.
We need others to go so they can return
Before all of their bridges are forever burned.
Chaplain Steve 11/11/09
Grace and Peace to America's Veterans Everywhere.......
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- Death penalty rare in military......... Next execution scheduled for 10 DEC 2009 -- Bill Morris, Wed, Nov 11 2009, 17:01:34 PST (66-169-160-167.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com/66.169.160.167)
FYI....
Death penalty rare, executions rarer in military..... There hasn't been a military execution since 1961 -- President Dwight Eisenhower approved the execution of John Bennett, an Army private convicted of raping and attempting to kill an 11-year-old Austrian girl. Bennett was hanged.
Five men currently sit on the military's death row at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.... However, A U.S. soldier convicted of rape and murder two decades ago is scheduled to be executed December 10, 2009.....
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- Veterans Day -- Don Hamilton, LM 201 (it's still happening), Wed, Nov 11 2009, 15:27:09 PST (ip68-231-100-12.ph.ph.cox.net/68.231.100.12)
Today is our Veterans Day. My wife and I went out to lunch because we had some time.
Our location was packed and I was in a VSPA T-shirt. As we waited for a tabel, a number of much senior women approached me and asked if I was a veteran. Each one shook my hand and said thank you. As the check should have come to me, a man I did not know, paid for our lunch and simply said thanks.
Latter we went by a home improvement store and again another man approached me and said thanks for your service, he too shook my hand.I had never seen him before.
This proves there are people around who really care about what we gave and are thankfull for what we did.
To them all; I say thanks.
Don Hamilton, LM 201
Tuy Hoa 69-70
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- Prayer Request -- Sam Lewis LM 302 PR 67-68, Wed, Nov 11 2009, 13:53:36 PST (pool-151-199-87-151.roa.east.verizon.net/151.199.87.151)
I've been in almost daily contact through Facebook with my friend, Batallion Commander , and helecopter Pilot Lt Col Wade Blackwell of the 82nd Airborne Division now stationed in Kandahar , Afganistan. He tells me that his group has been involved in a frantic search during sometimes fierce fighting for the second 82nd Airborne Brave Troop who was swept away in a remote Taliban Infested Afgan river and says they wont quit until he is found . He requests prayer for the recovery of this brave troop and the families of both lost . My Prayers a re for all in Harms way during this Veterans Day and every day. sam
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- Re: Prayer Request -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Wed, Nov 11 2009, 14:02:46 PST (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
- Re: Prayer Request -- Don Hamilton, LM 201, Wed, Nov 11 2009, 15:18:02 PST (ip68-231-100-12.ph.ph.cox.net/68.231.100.12)
- Re: Prayer Request -- Sam Lewis LM 302 PR 67-68, Wed, Nov 11 2009, 18:32:40 PST (pool-151-199-87-151.roa.east.verizon.net/151.199.87.151)
- Re: Prayer Request -- Chuck Olds (Low Rent) (Phan Rang 71-72), Thu, Nov 12 2009, 6:13:34 PST (adsl-69-152-240-241.dsl.snantx.swbell.net/69.152.240.241)
- Veteran's Day 2009 -- Larry Mayes, Wed, Nov 11 2009, 13:15:36 PST (mail.bigmentors.com/67.158.27.13)
In 30+ years of active duty, 27 of them in Security Police/Forces, including 1 year as an SP Augmentee at Tan Son Nhut from Nov 69-70, I was never more proud that when I served with you brave airmen, in war and peace. Today is a day for us to remember our fallen comrades and their families...Semper Fi.
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- My Dad WWII -- Gary Walters, Wed, Nov 11 2009, 11:34:07 PST (NoHost/96.19.197.231)
All my brothers have a good veteran's day.
I received a call this morn., my Dad had stroke but is stilll with us w/o any life support. The family has prayed for the last year foir the good Lord to bring him home but we all know that isn't left up to us. He has altheimers and hasn,t known anyone in over a year.
Please pray for me and my family during these situations I am a firm believer in prayer and God will call him home on his time. thanks.
Gary Ph-BH 68-69
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Re: My Dad WWII -- Bill Paddock VSPA LM 205, Wed, Nov 11 2009, 11:45:28 PST (adsl-074-245-198-228.sip.cae.bellsouth.net/74.245.198.228)
- Re: My Dad WWII -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Wed, Nov 11 2009, 14:05:17 PST (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
Re: My Dad WWII -- Randy "Ramps" Stutler (377th APS TSN 65-66), Wed, Nov 11 2009, 20:36:50 PST (host6714200142168.direcway.com/67.142.168.142)
- Re: My Dad WWII -- Chaplain Jim L/M 442, Thu, Nov 12 2009, 8:10:02 PST (pool-71-178-4-198.washdc.fios.verizon.net/71.178.4.198)
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The Willing Few -- chaplain steve, Wed, Nov 11 2009, 10:49:46 PST (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
The Willing Few
America is safe tonight.
The willing few stand guard.
They're asked to only do their part.
The willing few did start.
This war goes on and they're stretched out thin.
The willing few must win.
They keep going back to war.
The willing few are asked for more.
We need others to go so they can return
Before all of their bridges are forever burned.
By Steve Janke
11/11/09
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- Veterans Day -- Jackie R. kays, Wed, Nov 11 2009, 9:48:19 PST (customer121_115.grm.net/216.139.121.115)
Veterans Day…A Very Special Event!
In light of the recent tragedy at Ft. Hood this Veterans day hold a special meaning for most.
This day is a day of holy remembrance for all the young men and women who for over too
hundred years have bravely served their country and in thousands of bloody incidents sacrificed
their lives to pay for the freedom that we all enjoy everyday.
A special thought for all those young men and women who served in the Vietnam War!
I salute each and everyone of them!
Jackie R. Kays
SSGT. USAF (Med. Ret.)
DaNang-65
“I am forever honored for I have marched with heroes!” (jk)
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Happy Birthday Mom Lehman..Happy Veterans Day -- William R Paddock VSPA LM205 NKP 1968, Wed, Nov 11 2009, 9:03:20 PST (adsl-074-245-198-228.sip.cae.bellsouth.net/74.245.198.228)
Happy Birthday Mom...may you continue to have many many more!!
To all my Brothers in the VSPA...Happy Veterans Day!!
Best Always
William R (Bill) Paddock
VSPA LIFE MEMBER #205
VDHA Assoc. Mem. #16019
56th SecurityPolice Sq., Nakhon Phanom 1968
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- Veterans Day -- Mike Thomas LM564 (oorah), Wed, Nov 11 2009, 4:16:12 PST (h49.45.89.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/75.89.45.49)
Here's to all my brothers and Douglas too!
I hope your day is wonderful and the memories are good ones.
And may Roberta go easy on Jack....Naaa.
Mike Thomas
DaNang/det1/TanMy 72
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- Veteran's Day -- Jack Smith 377th SPS 68-69 LM 453, Wed, Nov 11 2009, 3:10:14 PST (adsl-99-159-249-44.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net/99.159.249.44)
0605 zulu. Happy Veteran's day to all my brothers. Do you remember the oath we all swore years ago. We would not be here now as brothers if we had not taken that first step to set our lives in motion. Enjoy this day and be proud. Jack The Old Cowboy Poet
The Oath
We have all seen the smiles heard the laugh
When we proclaim the Air Force our chosen path
No combat infantryman badge do we wear
But in that terrible Vietnam war we were there
Just ask the 111 brave Security Policemen lost
Giving their all with the supreme cost
Security Policemen combat trained to be the best
Manning our posts guarding it all while other’s rest
Following the book applying all our training
Walking the fences of war hardly complaining
Young and Old men chosen to protect
To all kinds of hazards we were subject
The flying forces placed with us their trust
Knowing we would fight and die if we must
Carried away on the currents of war
Honoring the solemn oath we swore
We wear our badge of courage in our hearts
No matter what others believe we did our part
To protect from harm and keep safe
Our country the Grand Old United States
Edwin J. Smith
The Old Cowboy Poet
Oct 7th 2008
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- This Day -- Jim Burke LM 466, 366 SPS Da Nang Tan My, Tue, Nov 10 2009, 22:52:46 PST (99-4-70-162.lightspeed.bkfdca.sbcglobal.net/99.4.70.162)
I remember two years ago when we walked down the streets of our Capitol, over 100 strong, and then that night at the banquet, we were honored to have a Lady Marine with us. I am proud of this Organization and am honored to be a member. Happy Veteran's Day to one and all. God Bless all of you.
Jim Burke
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Veterans' Day -- Janet Matthews-Wise, Tue, Nov 10 2009, 17:00:43 PST (24-196-19-136.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com/24.196.19.136)
I think of you every day, but will especially on Veterans' Day.
Thank You for your service, Thank You for your friendship, and WELCOME HOME!
Freedom Matters. All y'all are just awesome.
HUGS!
Janet Matthews-Wise
Daughter of LM #127
Sisterhood VP
Friend of K9
Sparkplug
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- Sniper executed -- Chaplain Jim L/ M 442 - Kennel Master, Tue, Nov 10 2009, 16:48:32 PST (pool-71-178-4-198.washdc.fios.verizon.net/71.178.4.198)
The DC sniper, the man who, for several weeks, held this area in terror met proper justice today as authorities carried out his execution.
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Veterans Sunday/Garfield,NJ -- chaplain steve, Tue, Nov 10 2009, 13:35:29 PST (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
http://news12.com/articleDetail.jsp?articleId=238157&position=9&news_type=news_mytown&rand=41360307
Click on above link or paste it....
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Veterans Day Ceremony -- Willie Squires LM#305, Tue, Nov 10 2009, 9:45:04 PST (user.connect.gpo.gov/162.140.67.10)
Today at the Government Printing Office where I work a Veterans Day Ceremony was held. Each Veteran was given a flag pin with a yellow ribbon. They also had a slide presentation of photos of employess who were veterans or their family members. I had one from my Ubon days.
There were two guest speakers, a Retired Army Captain from the Wounded Warriors Projest, and a USMC SGT From the HARHA Horses for Heros Program. Both of these gentleman have been severely wounded in services to our nation. I was not part of the offical party, but afterwards I presented both with a VSPA coin. I hope it is not against protocol to give them to other services members. Also the U.S. Capitol Police provided the Honor Guard for our wreath laying and and colors presentation. JJ Chestnut would have been proud.
Happy Veterans Day to All.
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- Happy Birthday Marines -- Jim Burke, Tue, Nov 10 2009, 7:22:11 PST (99-4-70-162.lightspeed.bkfdca.sbcglobal.net/99.4.70.162)
Just wanted to wish our fellow Marines a Happy Birthday. They were still at Da Nang when I first got there and we used to trade booze for steaks and poncho liners. Hoo Rah
Jim
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Dayton Mini Reunion Update March 5-7, 2010 -- Pat Houseworth-LM#575 (Good to Go!), Tue, Nov 10 2009, 6:49:08 PST (cpe-98-28-33-191.columbus.res.rr.com/98.28.33.191)
The dates are set for March 5,6,7, 2010, at the Air Force Museum in Dayton.
I sent out information to the guys on my e-mail list{a few have changed, so drop me a line to update your e-mail address}.
This year we plan on making it a 3 day 2 night event, and I will be getting with the staff at the Museum and contacting a few nearby quality motels to see if we can secure a block of rooms for the gang and their wives/families. Last year we had 60 cops, spouses, and family members attend, let's top that this time around.
Once again, no set fees, but we plan on having a few additonal activites that will allow us to have more quality time to BS and meet and greet each other....the few hours last January were great, but not nearly enough time to interact with all the folks that showed up.
Please get the information out to as many Sky Cops from Vietnam and Thailand as you know...even if they are not yet Members of the VSPA.
For more information, or to get on my e-mail list drop me a line in cyber space @:
pat.houseworth@gmail.com
See You in March at Dayton!
Pat Houseworth
14th SPS Nha Trang 1969
377th SPS Tan Son Nhut 1970
LM #575 in Honor of Phil Lange
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- 377th SPS photo Post Check Main gate -- Jack Smith 377th SPS 68-69 LM 453, Tue, Nov 10 2009, 5:59:32 PST (adsl-75-42-212-210.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net/75.42.212.210)
Good morning troops. I had the 377th SPS guys at the Az reunion get togeather fior a group photo at Luke. If any of you would like a copy please email me and I will email copy to you.
Roberta came home last Thursday after 2 days after her knee replacememt. She is doing well. Started rehab yesterday. Leg is sore this morning still in bed. Those plowing mules sure miss her. She has receievd a lot of cards from the Sisterhood and a nice flower arrangment.
Jumped 8 point buck behind the shed this morning at 0730 hrs. All I had was a rake. When gun season comes in I know that Buck will be long gone. counted 11 deer in the corn field last week.
Cloudy and 42 this morning. The Main gate is now 10-10
Jack the Old Cowboy Poet
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- Cards for the Troops -- Jim Costello LM552, Mon, Nov 09 2009, 18:59:30 PST (cache-ntc-ac10.proxy.aol.com/207.200.116.139)
I received the following email from a friend, checked it out, and sent a card. Only took a short time. I suppose you could send a bunch if you wanted too. Thought it was a great way to let our troops know we're thinking, and praying for them.
This only takes a minute....
XEROX IS DOING SOMETHING COOL!!
If you go to this web site, www.LetsSayThanks.com you can pick out a thank you card and Xerox will print it and it will be sent to a soldier that is serving in Iraq . You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to a member of the armed services.
How AMAZING it would be if we could get everyone we know to send one!!! It is FREE and it only takes a second.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if the soldiers received a bunch of these? Whether you are for or against the war, our soldiers over there need to know we are behind them.
This takes just 10 seconds and it's a wonderful way to say thank you. Please take the time and please take the time to pass it on for others to do. We can never say enough thank you's.
Thanks for taking to time to support our military!
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Vets Sunday 2009 -- chaplain steve, Sun, Nov 08 2009, 22:39:05 PST (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
Today we honored all vets and active military at our annual patriotic service for vets day. Two of my buddies from Cam Ranh surprised me and attended with their families and stayed the eekend. They were waiting for me at a local Charlie Brown's resturant. My wife knew and took me to their table. Surprise. Anyway had a great time. Just before leaving to go to church got a call from NJ 12 News. They wanted to come and shoot the service and take interviews. It should be on Monday evening and you can catch it on line. NJ 12 News 6 pm and 7:30 eastern time
http://www.njn.net/newspublicaffairs/
chaplain steve
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Movie Recommendation: 'A Christmas Carol', iMax 3D -- Don Poss, Sun, Nov 08 2009, 17:39:29 PST (cpe-75-82-158-38.socal.res.rr.com/75.82.158.38)
Gents & Ladies:
If you like the traditional 'A Christmas Carol' by Charles Dickens, then you will really enjoy the just released version. I highly recommend seeing this new outstanding version that is in iMax and 3D. The 3D glasses worn are the polarized type and do not cause eye strain at all. The movie is animated, but if you saw the animated film, 'Polar Express', then you know the quality of animation comes very close to life-like characters.
The film may not be suitable for very young grandkids, as some parts could be too scary for them.
Check out the Film Trailer in HD at
http://www.trailerspy.com/trailer/5347/A-Christmas-Carol-Trailer-HD
Don Poss,
VSPA Webmaster
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K9 -- Jim Coggins, Sun, Nov 08 2009, 14:39:48 PST (c-67-161-148-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net/67.161.148.119)
On the FOX pregame show this morning, the guys were @ Bagstram AFB. They had the usual clips with the troops saying hi. On the clips withn the troops saying hi to family & friends, they had an Army K9(Should have been USAF!) with his dog. Yeah, way to go FOX!
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- Unique homecoming to Vietnam for US commander (UPDATED INFO 7 NOV 2009) -- Bill Morris, Sat, Nov 07 2009, 22:00:24 PST (66-169-160-167.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com/66.169.160.167)
This is an UPDATE to the story of Hung Ba Le who fled his Vietnam homeland at the age of five in a fishing trawler crammed with 400 refugees.... Today (7 Nov), he made an unlikely homecoming — as the commander of a U.S. Navy destroyer.....
Full story below:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091107/ap_on_re_as/as_vietnam_us_unlikely_odyssey_6
~~ Happy Holidays to one and all. ~~
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Incident at Pleiku -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Sat, Nov 07 2009, 12:33:56 PST (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
I was talking to a soldier who was injured at Pleiku. His job was refuelling helicopters for the Army. Evidently he was riding around in a truck with a loose round from an M79 grenade launcher that exploded in the truck. I was wondering if anyone remembers this incident.
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- Thank you for your thoughts and prayers -- Kim Bayes-Bautista, Queen Mother, Sat, Nov 07 2009, 12:25:08 PST (rrcs-24-153-236-254.sw.biz.rr.com/24.153.236.254)
Dear Friends,
Thank you to everyone who has made contact to check on me. I am managing the best I can. The FT Hood community is very fragile and in a state of shock right now. There was so much initial misinformation, and in my opiniion, irresponsible reporting, that people are now news weary.
Frustration, anger and confusion permeates the air.
Myself and my colleagues are sickened that someone who is supposed to care for our soldiers' mental health would betray them and the profession in such a horrific way. Another setback for those who are doing the right thing.
We will struggle to take care of those impacted by this senseless tragedy while tending to our own. Many of my collegues who were first responders brought great credit upon their profession and the US Army. I can say with confidence EVERY social worker in my building deeply cares about the wellbeing of the soldiers and their families. Many volunteered to be on the Critical Response Team, continuing to work following a long and extremely stressful week. I was up at 0430 this morning to go in for my allotted time. MPs were at every door of the hospital with M-16s, serving and protecting. Such a strange feeling.
Again, thank you for your thoughts and prayers, I am certainly going to need them in the next few weeks.
I share the VSPA motto "We take care of our own" with my military family.
Hugs,
Kim Bayes-Bautista
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- Re: Thank you for your thoughts and prayers -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Sat, Nov 07 2009, 12:51:31 PST (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
- Re: Thank you for your thoughts and prayers -- Junious (Bud) Owens, Sun, Nov 08 2009, 1:37:29 PST (c-71-232-184-187.hsd1.nh.comcast.net/71.232.184.187)
- Re: Thank you for your thoughts and prayers -- Michael Thomas (Worried about you), Sun, Nov 08 2009, 20:53:00 PST (72-160-200-143.dyn.centurytel.net/72.160.200.143)
- Re: Thank you for your thoughts and prayers -- Erlyce Pekas, Thu, Nov 12 2009, 9:24:45 PST (174-17-253-160.phnx.qwest.net/174.17.253.160)
- Ft. Hood Tragedy -- Jackie R. kays, Fri, Nov 06 2009, 19:18:07 PST (customer121_207.grm.net/216.139.121.207)
Tragic Incident at Ft. Hood
For Discussion
(Just an OLD Investigator’s opinion)
Personally, I find it hard to believe that this incident could have occurred ,
due to all the red flags that had been raised in regard to the shooter’s background prior to the shooting!
If half of the information published about this guys history is true…allegedly; he publicly announced his displeasure with the US military policies in Iraq and Afghanistan . He posted his objections to the two wars on his website. He had be counseled in regard to his negative attitude . He had made several attempts to get out of the Army. His political opinions were well known among his working associates. He had been trying to get out of his deployment to Afghanistan. He was or is a devout Muslim!
My question begging to be answered here is; Where was the CID or the FBI? Or were they aware and did nothing? In any case, is seems like this incident could have and should been avoided due to the background information that appears to have been readily available to the investigative community.
(Just my opinion)
How quickly we forget?
How many remember the case of Sgt. Hasen Akbar (Born Mark Fidel Kools) who on the 23rd of March 2003 at a base in Kuwait, “Fragged” two officers, Army Captain Christopher Seifert and Air Force Major George Stone and injured fourteen other soldiers. (He was a Muslim convert)
In my humble opinion, I think the “Political Correctness” policy needs to be terminated so this type of tragedy doesn’t reoccur! We all know the old saying , “If there’s smoke….”
Jackie R. Kays
SSGT. USAF (Med Ret.)
DaNang-65
“I am forever honored for I have marched with heroes!” (jk)
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Re: Ft. Hood Tragedy -- Ramps (100%), Fri, Nov 06 2009, 20:29:17 PST (host6714200140168.direcway.com/67.142.168.140)
- Re: Ft. Hood Tragedy -- Jackie R. Kays, Fri, Nov 06 2009, 21:45:30 PST (customer121_188.grm.net/216.139.121.188)
Re: Ft. Hood Tragedy -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Sat, Nov 07 2009, 3:48:07 PST (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
- Re: Ft. Hood Tragedy -- Larry Gramps LM 401, Sat, Nov 07 2009, 6:53:55 PST (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
- Re: Ft. Hood Tragedy -- Tom Winn, Sat, Nov 07 2009, 8:50:39 PST (c-76-118-46-86.hsd1.nh.comcast.net/76.118.46.86)
- Re: Ft. Hood Tragedy -- Howard Yates, Sat, Nov 07 2009, 9:50:19 PST (198.56.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com/97.100.56.198)
- Re: Ft. Hood Tragedy -- Glenn Wilson (Lost it!), Sat, Nov 07 2009, 12:47:52 PST (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
- Re: Ft. Hood Tragedy -- Newell M. Swartz, Sat, Nov 07 2009, 23:14:30 PST (71-36-186-129.phnx.qwest.net/71.36.186.129)
Re: Ft. Hood Tragedy -- Ramps (WELL SAID SIR !), Sun, Nov 08 2009, 5:41:09 PST (host6714200146168.direcway.com/67.142.168.146)
Re: Ft. Hood Tragedy -- Mikey, Sat, Nov 07 2009, 23:29:02 PST (c-98-208-91-95.hsd1.ca.comcast.net/98.208.91.95)
- Re: Ft. Hood Tragedy -- Newell Collins LM550 (I DONT CARE), Sun, Nov 08 2009, 20:25:55 PST (74-33-45-73.dr01.rvra.az.frontiernet.net/74.33.45.73)
Re: Ft. Hood Tragedy -- chaplain steve, Mon, Nov 09 2009, 18:31:54 PST (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
- Vietnam’s largest tourism company is negotiating to buy a Fisherman’s Wharf hotel..... -- Bill Morris, Fri, Nov 06 2009, 15:27:41 PST (66-169-160-167.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com/66.169.160.167)
Vietnam’s largest tourism company is negotiating to buy a Fisherman’s Wharf hotel in San Francisco....
I guess they want to leave their Dong in San Francisco....
Full story at:
http://sanfrancisco.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2009/11/09/story1.html
1 Vietnamese Dong = 0.00006 United States Dollar
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Is It Just Me? -- Ramps (Underwhelmimg...,), Fri, Nov 06 2009, 14:03:40 PST (host6714200141168.direcway.com/67.142.168.141)
I don't know about you guys, but I am amazed at the "underwhelming response" of the news media concerning the cold blooded murder, and wounding, of our troops at Fort Hood by a muslim TERRORIST !
What would have happened if a "Right Wing, radical, Christian" had gone into a gay bar and killed 13 and wounded another 30 patrons ?
It's like..., "Some soldiers were killed at Fort Hood today, and now to the weather"
When are Americans going to wake up?
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- Re: Is It Just Me? -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Fri, Nov 06 2009, 15:21:38 PST (dd.fws.gov/164.159.60.2)
- Re: Is It Just Me? -- Jim Costello LM552, Fri, Nov 06 2009, 17:10:12 PST (cache-ntc-ac10.proxy.aol.com/207.200.116.139)
Re: Is It Just Me? -- Pat Houseworth (Islamic Terrorist), Fri, Nov 06 2009, 18:01:48 PST (cpe-98-28-33-191.columbus.res.rr.com/98.28.33.191)
- Re: Is It Just Me? -- Don Poss, Mon, Nov 09 2009, 15:54:13 PST (cpe-75-82-158-38.socal.res.rr.com/75.82.158.38)
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New Member Introduction -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Fri, Nov 06 2009, 13:32:49 PST (dd.fws.gov/164.159.60.2)
Ladies and Gents,
Please join me in welcoming Fred "Rosie" Rosenberg to membership in the VSPA. Fred served a year and eight months at Phu Cat in 1967-68, and currently lives in Pennsylvania. He found VSPA through another SP.
Welcome Home!
Phil
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Re: New Member Introduction -- Bob Mitchell LM301, Fri, Nov 06 2009, 13:36:40 PST (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
Re: New Member Introduction -- Randy "Ramps" Stutler (377th TSN 65-66), Fri, Nov 06 2009, 13:53:34 PST (host6714200141168.direcway.com/67.142.168.141)
Re: New Member Introduction -- Don Hamilton, LM 201, Fri, Nov 06 2009, 15:30:48 PST (ip68-231-100-12.ph.ph.cox.net/68.231.100.12)
- Re: New Member Introduction -- John R. Wetzel (happy), Fri, Nov 06 2009, 16:23:02 PST (75.97.0.234.res-cmts.snh.ptd.net/75.97.0.234)
- Re: New Member Introduction -- Dave Maltzan LM 592, Fri, Nov 06 2009, 18:57:11 PST (c-71-206-101-49.hsd1.mi.comcast.net/71.206.101.49)
- Re: New Member Introduction -- Carl Chamberlin LM #504 Phu Cat 67-68, Sat, Nov 07 2009, 6:26:44 PST (cache-mtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.16)
- Macedonian Suprise for Pease Greeters -- Junious (Bud) Owens, Fri, Nov 06 2009, 7:04:55 PST (c-71-232-184-187.hsd1.nh.comcast.net/71.232.184.187)
Foreign Troops from afar mark the 300th flight welcomed at Pease. I was a suprise for the Greeters on Monday, Nov 2 to greet the troops deplaning. The were from the Madedonian Army headed for Ft Polk, La to train with the Vermont National Gurad prior to deployment to Afganastian.
It was very interesting trying to communicate with thse troops who spoke very little english. Major Mark Tasler of the National Guard Bureau in DC was accompaning the group. The Greeters provided the same greeting for these troops as if they were our own. Thought you would be interested. Also, more photos are getting onto the websie, Peasegreeters.org if you are interesed. Bud Owens, VSPA Service Officer
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- Blue USAF tags -- Jack Smith 377th SPS 68-69 LM 453, Fri, Nov 06 2009, 6:40:20 PST (adsl-75-60-189-5.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net/75.60.189.5)
I have been searching the internet and ebay for the old Blue and White silk type US AIR FORCE sew on tags from the 60/70"s for jackets. Anyone have a spare or know where to find them?? I can find the new ones but they would not like right om my flight jacket from 71. Thanks for any info.
Jack the Old Cowboy Poet
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- Looking for Msgt Osborne -- Gary Bogart, Thu, Nov 05 2009, 15:16:08 PST (75.97.207.240.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net/75.97.207.240)
Looking for any help. I served with Msgt. Osborne in 1971 at DaNang, 366th SPS Tiger Flight. Still Looking for him,
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- Outstanding 72d SFS Freedom Award Winner -- William (Pete) Piazza, LM #141, Thu, Nov 05 2009, 13:52:42 PST (ip68-97-106-158.ok.ok.cox.net/68.97.106.158)
Hi folks, SSgt Erika Osorio is at present a member of the 72d SFS at Tinker AFB, OK. This was the briefing that she gave the ALS class she was in and won the Freedom Award
for that class. She will be cross-training into another career field next year and will be stationed at Dyess AFB, TX. We wish her the very best in her new job. Pete
SSgt Erika Osorio
13 October 2009
Why I Serve?
As a child, my father would tell me countless stories of the sufferings he had to endure. In my father's country there were little resources due to electoral fraud and a military government that resorted to political murder. It eventually led to a bloody civil war in the 1970s
and 80s. Everywhere you turned there were hungry mothers, fathers, and even children.
My father had a passion to attend school, which he never failed to surpass the other students. School was his getaway, therefore it helped his young mind from thinking of the hunger he felt. At the age of eight, he sadly had no choice but to leave school and start working in the cottonfields, if not his mother and four sisters would go hungry. I recall my mother telling me she would have to go to the market barefoot and sell fruit in order to feed my greatgrandparents. As years passed, matters were becoming worst as revolutionary forces fought against the government for fair elections. The actions amongst both parties affected the country immensely. My father with 10 colones in his pocket, equivalent to a quarter, after a hard's day
work, would walk five miles home and see decapitated bodies scattered everywhere. Most of the time he was by himself and luckily was never seen, otherwise the forces would have killed him instantly. At that time, they would raid people's homes and steal their food, murder families with
no explanation, and even rape young and older women in front of their families. Fortunately, both my mother and father escaped the highest peak of the civil war by coming to the land of opportunity, the United States of America. The U.S. has provided them opportunities such as
citizenship, labor, and equal opportunity.
When I made the decision to enter the Air Force, my sole purpose was to complete my college education however; I felt there was something else that was missing. I remember feeling a deep sadness when my parents and my sisters dropped me off at the recruiter's office, the day
before basic training. My father with tears in his eyes said, "Mija, become successful and take advantage of the opportunities I never had." I departed with something unexplainable in my heart.
I can recall the weeks I had to endure while in basic training from the yelling, perfect marching, physical training, shiny boots, and tip top shape lockers. All that hard work would pay off on the day of graduation when my family would see the transformations I had made.
Graduation day was more than special to me since that "unexplainable" feeling finally manifested before my eyes.
As all the different flights marched on the field I looked around and I was amazed to see how many people were in the stands. Not only the numbers however, the different cultures, races, religions, and ages that came together to celebrate one cause. The cause of a mother,
father, brothers and sisters who made the courageous decision to serve their country. As I heard the National Anthem playing in the background, I proudly saluted the American Flag and at that precise moment is when the "unexplainable" happened. Both my parents endured sufferings of hunger; NOT here, in the United States we have programs which assist those who don't have enough, i.e. The Salvation Army. My mother as a child didn't have shoes; NOT in the United States, we have charities who donate shoes to those children who do not have any. My father had no choice but to leave school at the age of eight; NOT in the United States, we have laws that protect children and they must attend school. Lastly, my parents nearly faced death from the wars in their own country; NOT in the United States, we don't have a civil war occurring among our own country. Had my mother and father not escaped from their country, I wouldn't be standing here before you today. The United States of America has provided you, myself, and everyone else the opportunities other countries are not blessed with.
As I processed all this information I realized how PROUD I am to be the daughter of the two heroes of my life, my strong parents, who taught me the meaning of opportunity and appreciation. I'm proud to say I AM an American, PROUD to salute our flag as the Star Spangled Banner plays, PROUD to honor those men and women who have given their life for
this country, PROUD and ready to fight those wars the American people have entrusted us with, and PROUD to wear the uniform of one of the greatest organizations of the world, the Air Force, which represents Integrity Ist, Service Before Self, and Excellence in All We do. Therefore, if you ask me why I serve? That is why I serve!
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- Re: Outstanding 72d SFS Freedom Award Winner -- Bill Morris, Thu, Nov 05 2009, 16:27:10 PST (66-169-160-167.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com/66.169.160.167)
Re: Outstanding 72d SFS Freedom Award Winner -- Ramps (AWESOME !!!), Thu, Nov 05 2009, 20:02:13 PST (host6714200139168.direcway.com/67.142.168.139)
Re: Outstanding 72d SFS Freedom Award Winner -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Fri, Nov 06 2009, 3:12:50 PST (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
- Re: Outstanding 72d SFS Freedom Award Winner -- William (Pete) Piazza, LM #141, Mon, Nov 16 2009, 11:15:14 PST (ip68-97-103-141.ok.ok.cox.net/68.97.103.141)
- Kim Bayes-Bautista is OKAY at Ft. Hood -- Steve Gattis, Thu, Nov 05 2009, 12:36:13 PST (h159.43.20.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/98.20.43.159)
Hello to all.
The national news is covering a major shooting at Ft. Hood in which several people were killed on base. Several were injured.
I was able to make contact with Kim's husband, Jaime. She is okay and was not on base at the time of the shooting.
Please do not call Kim's office or cell phone until further notice. She is okay and on standby with members of her staff for grief counselling.
Ft. Hood is locked down until a second suspect can be located.
Steve
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- Re: Kim Bayes-Bautista is OKAY at Ft. Hood -- Bill Morris, Thu, Nov 05 2009, 12:45:57 PST (66-169-160-167.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com/66.169.160.167)
- Re: Kim Bayes-Bautista is OKAY at Ft. Hood -- William (Pete) Piazza, LM #141, Thu, Nov 05 2009, 13:54:51 PST (ip68-97-106-158.ok.ok.cox.net/68.97.106.158)
- Re: Kim Bayes-Bautista is OKAY at Ft. Hood -- Don Hamilton, LM 201, Thu, Nov 05 2009, 14:12:38 PST (ip68-231-100-12.ph.ph.cox.net/68.231.100.12)
- Re: Kim Bayes-Bautista is OKAY at Ft. Hood -- Sam Lewis LM 302 PR 67-68, Thu, Nov 05 2009, 14:54:16 PST (pool-151-199-87-151.roa.east.verizon.net/151.199.87.151)
Re: Kim Bayes-Bautista is OKAY at Ft. Hood -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Thu, Nov 05 2009, 17:28:06 PST (97-115-71-136.ptld.qwest.net/97.115.71.136)
- Re: Kim Bayes-Bautista is OKAY at Ft. Hood -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Fri, Nov 06 2009, 3:15:27 PST (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
- Re: Kim Bayes-Bautista is OKAY at Ft. Hood -- Jaime Bautista, Fri, Nov 06 2009, 4:37:13 PST (rrcs-24-153-236-254.sw.biz.rr.com/24.153.236.254)
- Re: Kim Bayes-Bautista is OKAY at Ft. Hood -- John Lochte (relief), Fri, Nov 06 2009, 5:29:55 PST (CSC-CHD-FCH-3-CGEN-i-pub.amer.csc.com/20.137.18.53)
- Re: Kim Bayes-Bautista is OKAY at Ft. Hood -- Jaime Bautista, Fri, Nov 06 2009, 9:41:25 PST (rrcs-24-153-236-254.sw.biz.rr.com/24.153.236.254)
- A book worth owning -- Jackie R. Kays, Thu, Nov 05 2009, 10:36:35 PST (customer121_71.grm.net/216.139.121.71)
Hi Gents,
Just a reminder to all and especially the new members of the VSPA!
If you have not read “Security Police in Vietnam and Thailand”
you are missing a great opportunity to experience first hand
War stories lived by your own VSPA brothers.
The book is authored by twenty eight Security policeman of the VSPA.
Stories range from acts of true heroics to comical stories.
(This is a book worth owning and one that I'm sure you will relate to!)
Note: all royalties are donated to the VSPA to be use for many good projects.
This book and others on Vietnam are available at the VSPA PX.
Thank you for taking the time to read this notice.
Jackie
“I am forever honored for I have marched with heroes!” (jk)
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- Post Check Main gate -- Jack Smith 377th SPS 68-69 LM 453, Thu, Nov 05 2009, 9:24:18 PST (adsl-75-42-212-229.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net/75.42.212.229)
The knee replacement for Roberta went well. Almost 3 hr on the table. Today she was up and using a walker. Might be home this late afternoon or in the morning. She needs to get moving. I need someone to work that span of mules to get the winter wheat in. Just kidding I will give her a extra day before I put her to work. You all know when she reads this someone will be in the dawg house for sure.
Weather is clear about 62 right now. heavy frost this morning traffic very very light. In need of a 10-14. Jack the Old Cowboy poet
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- Re: Post Check Main gate -- Chuck Olds (Low Rent) (Phan Rang 71-72), Thu, Nov 05 2009, 9:56:22 PST (adsl-69-152-240-241.dsl.snantx.swbell.net/69.152.240.241)
Re: Post Check Main gate -- Jim Wise 377th/8th SPS, Thu, Nov 05 2009, 11:27:17 PST (pool-71-173-52-46.sctnpa.east.verizon.net/71.173.52.46)
- Re: Post Check Main gate -- Chuck Olds (Low Rent) (Phan Rang 71-72), Thu, Nov 05 2009, 11:55:02 PST (adsl-69-152-240-241.dsl.snantx.swbell.net/69.152.240.241)
- Re: Post Check Main gate -- Erlyce Pekas, Thu, Nov 05 2009, 12:02:41 PST (ip72-223-8-30.ph.ph.cox.net/72.223.8.30)
- Re: Post Check Main gate -- PHIL Block, Thu, Nov 05 2009, 12:34:59 PST (pool-74-101-139-33.nycmny.fios.verizon.net/74.101.139.33)
Re: Post Check Main gate -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Thu, Nov 05 2009, 17:24:36 PST (97-115-71-136.ptld.qwest.net/97.115.71.136)
- Re: Post Check Main gate -- Dave Maltzan LM 592 (Happy), Thu, Nov 05 2009, 22:37:02 PST (ip-74-85.197.chesaning.speednetllc.com/74.85.197.147)
- Re: Post Check Main gate -- John Paul Coakley, Thu, Nov 05 2009, 23:34:04 PST (cpe-75-85-118-69.socal.res.rr.com/75.85.118.69)
- You Never Know -- Gary Steele, Wed, Nov 04 2009, 17:07:25 PST (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
Funny how you sort of take things as they are in life and you just don't see or hear what is going on around you.For many years I have frequented this nice little butcher shop and especially for the holidays pick-up our favorite meats.I have recently found out that the owner's wife,Joanne has been crochetting as she get's time between running a business and taking care of her family to crochet over 118 lap quits and 1 full bed quilt for patients. Best part is that she does this for our veterans at our local V.A. Hospital right here in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania. All she ask's is that if someone has any extra yarn that they do not need, to drop it off at the store and she starts another one. Great lady and a great friend to all of us Veterans. Thank You for being so NICE!! Gary Steele, Binh Thuy,68-69 :}
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- Re: You Never Know -- Newell M. Swartz, Wed, Nov 04 2009, 21:51:17 PST (71-36-186-129.phnx.qwest.net/71.36.186.129)
- Re: You Never Know -- Stan Morris377th SPS, LM-254, Thu, Nov 05 2009, 3:58:42 PST (h237.246.88.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/75.88.246.237)
Re: You Never Know -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Thu, Nov 05 2009, 4:13:36 PST (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
Re: What a Great Lady! -- John Lochte LM#556, Thu, Nov 05 2009, 4:46:03 PST (CSC-CHD-FCH-3-CGEN-i-pub.amer.csc.com/20.137.18.53)
- Member's Mother passes -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Wed, Nov 04 2009, 7:42:26 PST (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
I was informed by one of our members this morning that another member's Mother has passed. Gary Meek, a minister, and a member of VSPA has had his mother pass on, in Kentucky. Please remember them in your prayers.
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Re: Member's Mother passes -- Don Hamilton, LM 201, Wed, Nov 04 2009, 10:14:59 PST (ip68-231-100-12.ph.ph.cox.net/68.231.100.12)
- Re: Member's Mother passes -- RICHARD GIDCUMB CM/LM200, Wed, Nov 04 2009, 12:47:56 PST (NoHost/72.14.107.37)
- Re: Member's Mother passes -- Charles Penley, 377th Security Police Squadron, Wed, Nov 04 2009, 16:21:41 PST (68-118-110-78.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com/68.118.110.78)
Re: Member's Mother passes -- Randy "Ramps" Stutler (377th APS TSN 65-66), Wed, Nov 04 2009, 19:45:01 PST (host6714200143168.direcway.com/67.142.168.143)
- Re: Member's Mother passes -- Dave Maltzan LM 592, Thu, Nov 05 2009, 7:42:57 PST (ip-74-85.197.chesaning.speednetllc.com/74.85.197.147)
- Re: Member's Mother passes -- William (Pete) Piazza, LM #141, Thu, Nov 05 2009, 14:20:05 PST (ip68-97-106-158.ok.ok.cox.net/68.97.106.158)
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Leatherman "Surge" tools -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Tue, Nov 03 2009, 18:26:50 PST (97-120-193-126.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.193.126)
Ladies and Gents,
At the reunion in Phoenix several guys inquired about how they could get one of the amazing, black, laser-engraved Surge multi-tools like the ones we send to dog handlers down range through the Old Dawgs and Pups program. There is a short opportunity right now to get in on our next order from the factory. If you're interested, email Bill Cummings for details and an order form. If you can't find Bill's email address, there's a link to it on the Old Dawgs and Pups new web page, at: http://www.war-stories.com/odap/ws-odap-military-working-dogs-bases.asp
Christmas presents, anyone?
Welcome Home!
Phil
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- Mom Lehman's birthday coming up Nov. 11 -- Erlyce Pekas, Sun, Nov 01 2009, 16:29:15 PST (97-124-123-169.phnx.qwest.net/97.124.123.169)
Hello friends,
Many of you asked me to remind you when Mom's birthday was coming up, so this seemed the easiest way. She will turn 87 years old on Veteran's Day, November 11. If you need her address or email address, please contact me for that information.
I'll be thinking of all of you and your service to this country on that day. God Bless you.
Erlyce
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- This Veteran's Day -- Jaime J Bautista Jr / US Army Retired, Sun, Nov 01 2009, 13:33:13 PST (rrcs-24-153-236-156.sw.biz.rr.com/24.153.236.156)
Thank you Veterans and "your" family members past and present for the Freedom I treasure. Thank you for all the selfless sacrifices made to protect what far too many take for granted. Thank you for your sleepless nights, so that I and those I love can close our eyes in peace. Thank you for all of your endurance in hardship so that I and my family can be at leisure in safety. Thank you for risking your very life so that those I care for may live without fear and unjust persecution. Thank you for standing guard in harsh conditions so that the rest of us can play, relax, and indulge in our dreams unhindered. Thank you for sacrificing your own freedom so that the rest of us may experience ours. You are the gate keepers of our hopes and dreams. May God assign each of you an angel of mercy to protect you through your toughest of times and darkest moments, so that you may return to us unharmed and unscathed by the horrors of others who refuse to understand what you stand for. You are not forgotten nor taken for granted, but are treasured beyond all common word. For those that have already given the ultimate sacrifice, I believe a time will come for all of you to be justly honored as kings and warriors in heaven before everyone.
This Veterans day, let there be no doubt that you are very much appreciated and respected. THANK YOU!
"Freedom has a taste, and for those who have fought for it, the taste is so sweet the protected will never know ..." - General George S. Patton
* It was an incredible honor for me to meet so many unique and wonderful folks in Phoenix. It was quite evident why Kim has always held such a high regard for everyone and spoke many great things of all the members of the association. You are one of a kind, each of you, and I have been blessed to have met you in person. Thank you for your kind and thoughtful acceptance of me and greeting me with such open kindness. Kim and the girls send all their love and best wishes with hopes of seeing you all again in San Antonio, Texas - Jaime
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- Re: This Veteran's Day -- Steve Gattis, Sun, Nov 01 2009, 15:41:04 PST (h159.43.20.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/98.20.43.159)
Re: This Veteran's Day -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Sun, Nov 01 2009, 16:25:00 PST (97-120-194-187.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.194.187)
Re: This Veteran's Day -- Ramps (HooAh! It's an Army Thing), Sun, Nov 01 2009, 19:06:18 PST (host6714200137168.direcway.com/67.142.168.137)
- Re: This Veteran's Day -- Newell M. Swartz, Mon, Nov 02 2009, 20:54:47 PST (71-36-186-129.phnx.qwest.net/71.36.186.129)
- Re: This Veteran's Day -- Chapalin Jim L/M 442 -Kennel Master (subvj), Thu, Nov 05 2009, 4:58:44 PST (NoHost/205.222.248.96)
- comp increase -- Gary Walters, Sun, Nov 01 2009, 10:51:02 PST (NoHost/96.19.197.231)
I have a question. I had put in for increase for neuropathy in my feet. I have DAV as mypower of attorney.
Getting to the meat.
Ireceived a letter from DAV said increase was denied and still haven't heard from VA anyone here can enlighten me on this?
Thanks
Gary PR BH 68-69
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Re: comp increase -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Sun, Nov 01 2009, 16:12:40 PST (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
- Re: comp increase -- Carl Chamberlin LM # 504 Phu Cat 67-68, Sun, Nov 01 2009, 17:04:06 PST (cache-dtc-aa12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.16)
- Re: comp increase -- Ed Daubert,377th SPS,LM 507, Sun, Nov 01 2009, 17:09:13 PST (ACA52A26.ipt.aol.com/172.165.42.38)
- Re: comp increase -- Bill Harris LM061, Sun, Nov 01 2009, 17:52:52 PST (71-87-64-239.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com/71.87.64.239)
Re: comp increase -- John Boyer (peace my brother), Mon, Nov 02 2009, 19:55:03 PST (static.unknown.charter.com/75.133.158.166)
Re: comp increase -- Ray Rash, Tue, Nov 03 2009, 8:38:56 PST (ppp-70-254-41-94.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net/70.254.41.94)
- Re: comp increase -- Gary Walters, Tue, Nov 03 2009, 11:24:57 PST (NoHost/96.19.197.231)
- .......picked up at sea in 1975 by a US naval ship in the closing days of the Vietnam war, -- Bill Morris, Sun, Nov 01 2009, 3:31:00 PST (66-169-160-167.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com/66.169.160.167)
WASHINGTON – A US military officer who fled Vietnam as a boy and was picked up by an American ship will soon visit the country in command of a destroyer, the US Navy said on Friday.
Full story at:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091030/ts_alt_afp/usvietnammilitaryoffbeat
~~ Happy Holidays to one and all. ~~
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- Bien Hoa Airbase, USA HAWK missiles -- John Mayfield, Sat, Oct 31 2009, 19:13:46 PDT (cpe-75-82-158-38.socal.res.rr.com/75.82.158.38)
Hello,
My name is John Mayfield I am trying to location information on D Battery, 6th Battalion, 56th Artillery (HAWK) a HAWK missile unit station at Bien Hoa Airbase from Sept 1965 to Sept 1968. The missile battery was located in the north west area of the base. I am trying to located pictures, maps or other items that would give the location of the battery.
This is an unofficial project of a former member of this unit. Any records, maps, pictures, order of battle reports, unit orders and any other items pertaining to the 6th Battalion, 56th Artillery would be greatly appreciated.
Mission: Collect, archive, preserve, the history of this proud unit.
Thanks for any help you can give.
John Mayfield
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New Member Introduction! -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Fri, Oct 30 2009, 18:30:05 PDT (97-120-194-187.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.194.187)
Ladies and Gents,
Please join me in welcoming Dave Lindquist to membership in the VSPA. Dave served at Takhli in 1972-73, and Nakhon Phanom and U-Tapao in 1975-76. He currently lives in Ohio, and found out about VSPA through our jam-packed website.
Welcome Home to VSPA!
Phil
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Re: New Member Introduction! -- Don Hamilton, LM 201, Fri, Oct 30 2009, 18:35:32 PDT (ip68-231-100-12.ph.ph.cox.net/68.231.100.12)
Re: New Member Introduction! -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Sat, Oct 31 2009, 4:52:16 PDT (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
- Re: New Member Introduction! -- Chuck Olds (Low Rent) (Phan Rang 71-72), Sat, Oct 31 2009, 6:50:47 PDT (adsl-69-153-6-163.dsl.snantx.swbell.net/69.153.6.163)
Re: New Member Introduction! -- Randy "Ramps" Stutler (377th TSN 65-66), Sat, Oct 31 2009, 13:40:35 PDT (host6714200145168.direcway.com/67.142.168.145)
- Re: New Member Introduction! -- Dave Maltzan, Sat, Oct 31 2009, 19:35:45 PDT (ip-74-85.197.chesaning.speednetllc.com/74.85.197.147)
- Re: New Member Introduction! -- Mikey, Sat, Nov 07 2009, 23:51:20 PST (c-98-208-91-95.hsd1.ca.comcast.net/98.208.91.95)
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New Member Introduction! -- Phil Carroll - LM #336, Fri, Oct 30 2009, 17:48:45 PDT (97-120-194-187.ptld.qwest.net/97.120.194.187)
Ladies and Gents,
Please join me in welcoming Tom Wiseman to membership in the VSPA. Tom served at Bien Hoa in 1969-70, and currently lives in Virginia. He heard about us through the Air Force Security Forces Association.
Welcome Home to VSPA!
Phil
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Re: New Member Introduction! -- Don Hamilton, LM 201, Fri, Oct 30 2009, 18:32:12 PDT (ip68-231-100-12.ph.ph.cox.net/68.231.100.12)
Re: New Member Introduction! -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Sat, Oct 31 2009, 4:56:41 PDT (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
- Re: New Member Introduction! -- Chuck Olds (Low Rent) (Phan Rang 71-72), Sat, Oct 31 2009, 6:56:09 PDT (adsl-69-153-6-163.dsl.snantx.swbell.net/69.153.6.163)
Re: New Member Introduction! -- Randy "Ramps" Stutler (377th TSN 65-66), Sat, Oct 31 2009, 13:45:46 PDT (host6714200145168.direcway.com/67.142.168.145)
- Re: New Member Introduction! -- Dave Maltzan, Sat, Oct 31 2009, 19:08:35 PDT (ip-74-85.197.chesaning.speednetllc.com/74.85.197.147)
Re: New Member Introduction! -- Marshall Gott, Wed, Nov 04 2009, 16:29:10 PST (228-186.suscom-maine.net/207.5.228.186)
- Another Vietnam Sky Cop Has Passed Away -- William (Pete) Piazza, LM #141, Wed, Oct 28 2009, 17:58:26 PDT (ip68-227-114-24.ok.ok.cox.net/68.227.114.24)
Received this sad info today. Our prayers and condolences go out to his family and friends. Pete
Billy J. Smith, 79, of Palmyra, died on Sunday, October 25, 2009, at a local care facility.
He was born August 9, 1930, in Cave City, Arkansas, the son of the late Cecil Smith and Mary Elizabeth Bray Smith.
Billy retired in 1973 from the United States Air Force as a Chief Master Sergeant after 24 years of service. He served in Vietnam and was the recipient of a Bronze Star Medal and the Meritorious Service Medal. In 1993 he retired from Civil Service at NASA-Langley as the Assistant Security Chief after 12 years of service. He was a member of the Air Force Security Organization and First Presbyterian Church in Charlottesville. He had also been a member of the American Legion Post 74 for 10 years.
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- Re: Another Vietnam Sky Cop Has Passed Away -- Charles Penley, 377th Security Police Squadron, Wed, Oct 28 2009, 18:51:09 PDT (68-118-110-78.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com/68.118.110.78)
- Re: Another Vietnam Sky Cop Has Passed Away -- Bob Mitchell LM 301, Thu, Oct 29 2009, 4:11:27 PDT (ip68-14-6-65.ri.ri.cox.net/68.14.6.65)
- Re: Another Vietnam Sky Cop Has Passed Away -- Don Hamilton, LM 201, Thu, Oct 29 2009, 13:00:34 PDT (ip68-231-100-12.ph.ph.cox.net/68.231.100.12)
- Service in Thailand equal to VIetnam -- Don Poss, Mon, Oct 26 2009, 20:52:19 PDT (cpe-75-82-158-38.socal.res.rr.com/75.82.158.38)
Gents: I received an email from a member concerned about how some Thailand members might feel about the value of their service during the war, as compared to service in Vietnam. This concern arose after his conversation with a Thailand member looking at a Vietnam Service Medal in the BX.
The member’s email follows without his name, at my request, because some hothead member might not read past his question and concerns, and make totally wrong conclusions about his points.
Here is his email – read it completely through:
“Hi Don, I was considering posting the question I have on the BB, but thought better of it as not to cause any of the guys feelings to be hurt, and why should the rest of the world know anyway? I feel this way is better, and hope you can offer some clarification.
My question is: Are our Thailand brothers Vietnam veterans the same as we who served in Vietnam?
As far as I'm concerned they are the same as our brothers [as are those] who served off shore aboard ships, but this issue has been troubling me since Phoenix.
[Here’s why I ask] While standing in line to pay at the BX during the reunion, a fellow SP in front of me was looking at the pin display, and asked if I had served in Vietnam. I said, yes. He told me he served in Thailand, and didn't feel he deserved to wear a pin that said Vietnam Veteran since he wasn't in-country.
All I could think of to say to him was that he had every right to wear it; Thailand was part of the war theater. He was in as much danger as the rest of us. His wife said, “That's what I've been telling him!”
I was at a loss for what else to say, and that was the extent of our conversation. I didn't get his name, nor saw his name tag. Since then I've been very concerned for the other Thailand members of the VSPA who may be feeling the same.
I've only been a member for less than two years, and have no knowledge if anything like this has ever come up. I suppose I've already answered my own question, but any conformation to it would be most helpful, and appreciated.
Still, my concern is if others feel the same.
Thanks Don,
"Life Member”
My response to “Life Member”:
Life Member: I think you have raised a very good question and concern. I will post your email and comments ‘anonymously’ on the BB.
If any member who served in Thailand voices such a feeling of not being worthy or qualified for a VSM, then I would refer him to the great number of stories posted at VSPA for Thailand bases…and to the casualty listing where he can scan the 26 or more Thailand KIA/LOD personnel named on those honor rolls.
I would never have thought anyone who served in Thailand would somehow feel unworthy for the VSM--it just never has crossed my mind! I feel very strongly this concern should be raised and voiced so that anyone, including the member you spoke with, would understand they are considered brothers who fought and served in every way, and, those who served in Vietnam are proud of their Thailand service and would stand the perimeter or outside the wire with any of them!
To the Thailand Brother at the reunion BX, who may somehow feel unworthy for a VSM: If you want to see a grown man cry, then look me in the eye and tell me I am not your brother. That little yellow-three-red-stripe ribbon with green-bookends on your hat belongs to us both. We earned it. We have Thailand-Vietnam brothers who died and bled for it, and some are still dying today because of it. No one can ever say differently.
So...whoever you are, Welcome Home Brother!
PS: I feel so strong about having to do something to show my support that I just ordered a “THAILAND” pin for my hat from the BX!
Don Poss
Vietnam Service Medal:
http://www.vspa.com/aspprotect/usaf-medals.asp?zoom_highlight=%22vietnam+service+medal%22
was established by Executive Order 11213, July 9, 1965.
Award: Awarded to all service members of the Armed Forces who between July 4, 1965 and March 28, 1973, served in the following areas of Southeast Asia: In Vietnam and the contiguous waters and airspace; in Thailand, Laos or Cambodia or the airspace there over or in the direct support of military operations in Vietnam.
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- Re: Service in Thailand equal to VIetnam -- Ed Daubert,377th SPS,LM507, Mon, Oct 26 2009, 21:37:21 PDT (ACA3303A.ipt.aol.com/172.163.48.58)
- Re: Service in Thailand equal to VIetnam -- Jonathan Faulkner, 56th SPS, Tue, Oct 27 2009, 4:23:55 PDT (car312.gly.fsu.edu/128.186.10.108)
- Re: Service in Thailand equal to VIetnam -- Jack Smith 377th SPS 68-69 LM 453, Tue, Oct 27 2009, 4:35:09 PDT (adsl-99-174-177-78.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net/99.174.177.78)
- Re: Service in Thailand equal to VIetnam -- Gary Jones, LM-363, Tue, Oct 27 2009, 6:51:12 PDT (cpe-098-025-041-213.sc.res.rr.com/98.25.41.213)
- Re: Service in Thailand equal to VIetnam -- Bill Marshall L/M 85, Tue, Oct 27 2009, 10:11:52 PDT (wsip-98-189-153-112.oc.oc.cox.net/98.189.153.112)
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Re: Service in Thailand equal to VIetnam -- John Boyer (peace my brother), Tue, Oct 27 2009, 19:12:19 PDT (static.unknown.charter.com/75.133.158.251)
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