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Subject: Sorry meant to say NATALIE & Inga look like sisters, and Alice and Sam look similar... But between all four they have a dark haired european look (yes I know Sam is from Iran) but still... Author: Linda [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 10:10:20 07/25/08 Fri In reply to: Linda 's message, "Very cool! Thanks for posting! Just helped me solidify my views (some may disgree) but it REALLY shows the similarity between Natalie, Alice, Inga & Sam. Especially Alice & Inga look like sisters, the same cheeks/face.. and Alice & Sam look very similar facially as well.. WOW And it's funny Natalie and Alice were sent first and both did very well... Then Inga & Sam were sent (as similar choices) and NOT doing well. Lesson here maybe? Send something different!! Once a girl has done well, maybe it's time to send something totally different, and hey maybe the diversity will do well at Miss Universe, because we NEVER know what look they may be going for that year." on 10:08:57 07/25/08 Fri [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date Well, how does Venessa non-placement fit in your theory? She is different from the last four. Should we expect MUC placement every year? There are 80 contestants and only 15 spots available where 5 of those are MUO hand-picked. So, 65 girls are left in the cold. Didn't they have high expectations? Even if only half of them deserve the placement and they are beautiful and they have determination to win and have their fans supporting them, there is not enough space to fit them all in top 15. Oh, and there is only ONE winner! Should we blame the rest 79 contestants and their national directors for not winning? (NT) Just a thought 12:17:11 07/25/08 Fri I think Vanessa was beautiful and a great choice.. she was just young and not well prepared. They were on the right track though because Shandi Finnessay & Jen Hawkins had similar looks! Shandi looked like Vanessa's older sister! That was a tough year, many beautiful girls, I think Vanessa was just too young and not experienced enough. Had she been sent to a bunch of pageant before-hand like Samantha or Alice, I think she could have done better. I think that's why I am so harsh on the latest winners because they have had TONS of experience, Sam was sent to like 4 other international pageants! She had almost every work done possible! I just expect more from beauties of canada because they have the resources! Do I think in 2007 and 2008 there were OTHER girls that could have placed in top 15 at Miss Universe YES I DO!!! I just don't feel Inga & Sam were the best choices.. I think they were picked based on a certain "criteria" BOC wants.. And they were WRONG! (NT) -- Linda, 13:24:57 07/25/08 Fri I apologize I am being so critical, but I'm just being honest. I always supported our representatives and no matter who won since 2003 I have always felt and believed our girl would do well at Miss Universe.. But in 2007 and 2008 I was like OH NOOOO when I saw our winners...And I feel terrible for saying that, but I really didn't believe they stood a chance. If I felt our delegates were strong and good choices, I would still commend them for doing well. I was shocked Puerto Rico in 2008 didn't make it and Venezuela in 2004, and a few others here and there.. It does happen, I know! But Inga & Sam I was NOT in the slightest bit shocked. I actually would have been shocked if they DID happen to place. (NT) -- Linda, 13:30:13 07/25/08 Fri I'm just a HUGE fan I love rooting for our girls, it gets me so excited to see Canada do well.. Natalie & Alice I was on the edge of my seat watching! Inga & Sam I knew wouldn't make the semis. I am pretty crazy fanatic I must say! I wager online and win myself money every year (sure I've lost in the past) but I won this year with Dayana! It's like a sport to me, I enjoy it ! I would not have bet any money on Canada in the last two years. And the betting odds agree, they're odds were terrible. (NT) -- Linda, 13:34:45 07/25/08 Fri Funny thing, I was also thinking about betting knowing that Venezuela is going to win, too bad I didn't bet. Will try next year. Linda, which online agency did you use? (NT) -- AmeriCan Fan, 18:32:12 07/25/08 Fri I bet through Bookmaker.com.. Venezuela's odds were 600/1.. I bet $100 on her :) (NT) -- Linda, 11:56:53 07/28/08 Mon I found this old (July 14) article "Heavy Betting on Miss Canada Raises Concerns" Click-In -- AmeriCan Fan, 14:20:07 08/11/08 Mon Canada's beauty resources- that's the key. But like Canada's other resources, you've got to mine them. They won't come to you. The other successful smaller countries go out and recruit the most beautiful girls to compete. That's how Venezuela and Puerto Rico do it year after year. Why can't Canada's org do the same. Approach modeling agencies (legit ones - no strippers please). Hold open casting calls at universities and colleges. Work to get a stronger regional system set up. And most of all, be fair in judging. Then we'll see results. (NT) -- Brent, 14:08:15 07/25/08 Fri I think part of the problem (especially in the case of recruiting girls from universities and colleges) is the cost involved. When you're in university, you're broke. And pageants cost a fortune. To ensure the numbers and caliber of girls go up in terms of entry.. means they have to reduce the entry fee alot. Or have no entry fee and on let those who of MU caliber compete. This may result in 20 girls competing instead of 60, but the quality vs quantity would make a huge difference. Think about it, all the best Model Searches in the world are run this way. Costs are not covered by the contestants but by sponsors. ...Its just a suggestion.. (NT) -- :), 15:42:23 07/25/08 Fri sorry, typo.. it should say "..ONLY let those who are of MU caliber compete.." (NT) -- :), 15:44:36 07/25/08 Fri