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Date Posted: 06:51:05 03/01/07 Thu
Author: KathyT (dismayed)
Subject: This is the first time
In reply to: Chuck in ND 's message, "And we think they are better off???" on 16:26:56 02/22/07 Thu

All my life I have been proud of being American. Like most people of the world, I have had a tremendous sense of patriotism. I realize that other people feel the same about their nations, but I believed in my heart that my America truly was the best country on earth.

Recently I have begun to question that. I long for a small quiet place where character is still valued, where TV commercials don't promote dishonesty, and where TV shows don't glorify rudeness and immorality. I didn't feel ashamed of America, just worried about this land and the people in it.

But those videos made me feel ashamed of being American. I want no connection whatsoever with the soldiers who are committing such acts. I don't want to share any citizenship with them.

A new reason to weep for America.

KathyT

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Replies:

Do you feel the same about the US citizens -- Cricket, 08:17:13 03/01/07 Thu
- I think -- TastingTheBlood, 13:12:03 03/01/07 Thu
  - You Think So??? -- Eppy, 14:02:09 03/01/07 Thu
  - That is exactly the wrong attitude -- Cricket, 14:37:37 03/01/07 Thu
    - A complex topic, indeed -- Deborah, 23:45:39 03/01/07 Thu
      - For now -- Cricket, 05:05:42 03/02/07 Fri
      - One more thing -- Cricket, 05:38:09 03/02/07 Fri
  - All kinds of mistakes have been made . . . -- Jay, 17:20:32 03/01/07 Thu
    - A bit of deja vu, in a way -- Deborah, 00:15:32 03/02/07 Fri
    - I disagree about Ehren Watada -- Cricket, 05:09:32 03/02/07 Fri
      - Hmmm . . . -- Jay, 07:44:48 03/02/07 Fri
        Agreed, Jay -- TastingTheBlood, 08:29:13 03/02/07 Fri
        Unfortunatley . . . -- Jay, 08:37:34 03/02/07 Fri
        hm. -- Cricket, 08:49:14 03/02/07 Fri
        I think that we'll have to agree to disagree . . . -- Jay, 09:04:56 03/02/07 Fri
        yep. -- Cricket, 13:11:57 03/02/07 Fri
Why Don't I See The Same type of horror -- Eppy, 13:52:06 03/01/07 Thu
- I'll tell you why . . . -- Jay, 17:26:48 03/01/07 Thu
  - Two comments here... -- Eppy, 07:15:19 03/02/07 Fri
    - OK, I'm confused... -- Chuck in ND, 08:16:47 03/02/07 Fri
      - Puhleese. -- Cricket, 08:34:59 03/02/07 Fri
    - ohohohoh METOOMETOOMETOO!!!!! -- Cricket, 08:29:54 03/02/07 Fri
    - Ha! -- Jay, 08:40:57 03/02/07 Fri
      - Heh. -- Cricket, 08:52:37 03/02/07 Fri
        Maybe She's the one leaking all this stuff??? (NT) -- Eppy, 09:01:31 03/02/07 Fri
      - LOL...Now that WOULD be GOOD!!!! (NT) -- Eppy, 09:00:25 03/02/07 Fri
    - Oh . . . -- Jay, 08:56:21 03/02/07 Fri
      - If I may -- Cricket, 13:22:28 03/02/07 Fri
        I have thought the same thing -- Eppy, 14:58:40 03/02/07 Fri
  - Two comments here... -- Eppy, 07:18:55 03/02/07 Fri
    - Correction...The Church Film is called, "Let Not Your Heart Be Troubled." (NT) -- Eppy, 10:58:45 03/04/07 Sun
- No Subject -- TastingTheBlood, 17:53:39 03/01/07 Thu
  - uh oh.. -- Cricket, 05:22:25 03/02/07 Fri
  - Daniel Pearl wasn't from Fox News... -- Eppy, 07:34:18 03/02/07 Fri
    - Do you Just Hear what you Want to Hear??? -- TastingTheBlood, 08:26:47 03/02/07 Fri
      - well, okay... -- Cricket, 08:39:33 03/02/07 Fri
      - And You Don't Hear Only What YOU Want to Hear???? (NT) -- Eppy, 08:48:15 03/02/07 Fri
        You mentioned above... -- Eppy, 08:58:32 03/02/07 Fri
        One of the biggest ironies of that era -- Cricket, 13:17:47 03/02/07 Fri
      - I am going to attempt to explain why I feel the way I do, for what it is worth... -- Eppy, 09:37:11 03/02/07 Fri
        Okay, but let me ask you this . . . -- Jay, 09:44:49 03/02/07 Fri
        Fair Question -- Eppy, 14:47:15 03/02/07 Fri
        One question I like to ask my dad... -- TastingTheBlood, 15:45:06 03/02/07 Fri
        Theories perhaps.... -- Eppy, 17:23:33 03/02/07 Fri
        When we were over there -- Cricket, 19:49:44 03/02/07 Fri
        No terror attacks before 9-11? -- Cricket, 19:45:04 03/02/07 Fri
        Saddam hid his weapons in Syria (NT) -- Cricket, 13:14:38 03/02/07 Fri
        hm.......... -- TastingTheBlood, 09:02:22 03/03/07 Sat
        No. They were in Syria. He moved them there -- Cricket, 11:24:20 03/03/07 Sat
        Well, I heard Syria too. -- Eppy, 14:27:59 03/03/07 Sat
        Here is something that shows the Democrats will -- Cricket, 18:00:31 03/03/07 Sat
        If I Had One... -- TastingTheBlood, 19:48:08 03/03/07 Sat
        Well, tradtionally they sort of were... -- Eppy, 11:08:31 03/04/07 Sun
        The Democrats are the majority and they -- Cricket, 15:13:30 03/04/07 Sun
        I Did hear about this a few days ago -- Eppy, 11:02:57 03/04/07 Sun
        Hope has broken out in Baghdad again. -- Cricket, 15:17:46 03/04/07 Sun
        I Hadn't heard about the fast -- Eppy, 16:42:16 03/04/07 Sun
        Well, I only mention -- Cricket, 17:02:04 03/04/07 Sun
Not speaking to re-write your thoughts -- Deborah, 00:34:21 03/02/07 Fri