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Date Posted: 11:53:06 11/23/03 Sun
Author: a kriya yogi - 23 Oct 2003
Subject: Re: Who are you following?
In reply to: ketch - 23 Oct 2003 's message, "Re: Who are you following?" on 11:52:34 11/23/03 Sun


"Again this twisting of the facts to try to equate Walters and Davis with genuine teachers such as Mildred Hamilton. If you care to check the cross and lotus website you will see the statement that Mildred Hamilton was one of only six disciples given the title Yogacharya and authorised to teach independently. A few others were also authorised to give initiation independently but Walters and Davis were not among them. None of the renunciants were. This is the point which you keep evading."

No, the power comes from the Guru. Not from the Cross and Lotus website, or any other place. Yogananda did indeed empower Deitz, Davis, Walters, and others to initiate people into Kriya. He didn't call them Yogacharyas, but that is another issue altogether.

"Walters and Davis both came to SRF towards the end of P Yogananda's life. They were novices at the time. They were given permission to carry out initiation ceremonies while they had the back up of a large organisation with more capable yogi's, not to set themselves up as experts capable of giving complete spiritual guidance. These are two very different things."

I disagree. They had the backup of the Guru, not just an organization. The power comes from the Guru. That's all that's needed.

"As for insults, I suggest that you read through the things you have written. If you were to do so you would see that it is you who started these exchanges with your personal attacks on nojdw."

People can read nojdw's past posts and see for themselves whether my response to him was warranted.

"Having said that, it was not my intention to insult you, so I apologise if my comments went too far."

Thank you. Apology accepted. And my apology for posting some unkind things in the past. Whether warranted or not, it doesn't help anything.

That said, I stand by thousands of years of spiritual tradition, and Kriya Yoga tradition, for my views. I respect that others will pick this issue up by a different string. There is room in this Kriya world for both views- I say that because there will have to be. I don't see either camp disappearing any time in the next few, or few hundred, years.

The beauty behind all this is that I've seen very real Kriya results in people who have what I consider the more narrow view spoken here. I've also seen the same results in people with the more traditional and broad (or heretical, depending on your point of view!) approach. So- I suggest that Kriya and the Guru are so powerful that perhaps it doesn't matter too much what we think.

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