JoDete, Iowa got in over Indiana because outside of the league, they beat Louisville, Texas (w/ Tucker), Iowa State, and Texas Tech, while outside the league, Indiana beat Oral Roberts, while losing to a number of real good teams including UNC, UConn, and Kentucky. I think you are relying way too much on the actual numbers. Iowa's 4 wins outside the league to Indiana's none (quality wins) is the reason why they are in and Indiana is out despite finishing 3 games back. They also beat Mich St in the conference tourney and Indiana got pasted by Minnesota. -- Fordham Rams Basketball Message Board

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Date Posted: Mon March 14, 2005 08:53:29
Author: Stout for 3
Subject: JoDete, Iowa got in over Indiana because outside of the league, they beat Louisville, Texas (w/ Tucker), Iowa State, and Texas Tech, while outside the league, Indiana beat Oral Roberts, while losing to a number of real good teams including UNC, UConn, and Kentucky. I think you are relying way too much on the actual numbers. Iowa's 4 wins outside the league to Indiana's none (quality wins) is the reason why they are in and Indiana is out despite finishing 3 games back. They also beat Mich St in the conference tourney and Indiana got pasted by Minnesota.
In reply to: J�Dete93 's message, "I think the Iowa over Indiana boils down to the entire season. Iowa ended 21-11 (OOC SOS/RPI of 67/11), Indiana ended the season 15-13 (OOC SOS/RPI of 11/116). This proves once again that it does not pay to overschedule in the OOC, plain and simple. St. Joe's with an OOC SOS/RPI of 7/129 is another example of being hurt by not winning out of conference with too tough a schedule. 14-2 in conference is going to get you nowhere if you go 3-8 OOC." on Sun March 13, 2005 21:48:40

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I think you are trying to prove a point to the wrong person. I was the one explaining why Iowa got in, not why they did not deserve to be in. Their overall season record is better than Iowa's and their out of conference strength of schedule and RPI are solid enough to get them in. Maybe all the numbers I provided confused you into thinking that I was arguing that Indiana should have been included, but I was not. My ultimate point is that the committee is showing that it does not pay to have a top 15 to 20 OOC SOS if you do not win. It therefore makes more sense to have an OOC SOS close to or below 100 with a few added victories. Both Indiana and St. Joe's are proof of that, though GW getting a 12 seed makes me wonder a bit about that b/c it looks like they would have been out had they not won the A-10. (NT) -- J�Dete93, Mon March 14, 2005 09:35:24
- Sorry, third sentence should say "Their overall season record is better than Indiana's". (NT) -- J�Dete93, Mon March 14, 2005 09:42:53

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