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Date Posted: 09:46:46 05/28/03 Wed
Author: Ghanima
Subject: The Bruce Lee of mentats
In reply to: G-Lock 's message, "Did Paul finish his mentat training?" on 22:09:50 05/27/03 Tue

Paul did not have time to ever complete the mentat training, since his father was murdered and he had to flee into the desert. He didn't have "other memory" to learn from either. But, his own talent made it a moot point anyway.
I sort of think of it as analogous to Bruce Lee learning basic wing chun from Yip Man, then realizing that his own potential extended way beyond that, so he quit and created Jeet Kun Do, becoming the greatest kung-fu figure in history. Paul was also wildly gifted. To put it another way, his mentat training really was kind of like teaching a baby who will grow up to be an Olympic sprinter how to walk. You show them the basics, but they do the rest themselves.
I think the scene in the desert when he is figuring out how he and Jessica can survive is an excellent example of this. He shows the use of logic, but then proceeds to make intuitive leaps beyond logic.

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pauls' other memory -- chairdog, 13:16:29 05/28/03 Wed
- Example? -- Ghanima, 13:34:20 05/28/03 Wed
- Example? -- Ghanima, 14:51:44 05/28/03 Wed
  - ? -- tvscks, 15:11:57 05/28/03 Wed
    - Not all, only those who have been tested -- Ghanima, 15:26:13 05/28/03 Wed
      - Ok, I'm glad I haven't had it wrong all this time. (NT) -- tvscks, 16:22:19 05/28/03 Wed
        Mentat Emperor -- AntiPaul, 16:29:50 05/28/03 Wed
        I'm fairly certain that Paul had other memory as well. he had all the powers of a reverend mother and more -- IDAHO, 18:13:58 05/28/03 Wed
        absolutly he had other memory. -- Crysknife, 21:58:28 05/28/03 Wed
        You still haven't proven anything to me -- Ghanima, 09:57:19 05/29/03 Thu
        Check this out. -- theButterfly, 14:22:00 05/29/03 Thu
        Thanks, and I still stand by what I said before -- Ghanima, 16:52:19 05/29/03 Thu
        Ghanima -- Crysknife, 20:52:47 05/29/03 Thu
        Pre-born? -- G-Lock, 22:12:41 05/29/03 Thu
        Well.... -- Crysknife, 23:06:33 05/29/03 Thu
        You are right. And Paul has all the abilities of a Reverend Mother I am sure -- IDAHO, 02:35:22 05/30/03 Fri
        You are right Crysknife...the only thing I can think of is... -- IDAHO, 02:25:32 05/30/03 Fri
        Well Ghanima...why do you assume then that the bene Gesserit intended the "real" Kwisatz Haderach to have other memory -- IDAHO, 02:17:44 05/30/03 Fri
        IDAHO -- Crysknife, 09:08:13 05/30/03 Fri
        Other memory is NOT TOTAL RECALL -- RavensZim, 05:58:07 06/01/03 Sun
        ??? -- Crysknife, 12:19:15 06/01/03 Sun
        So for every person the strength of OM is different, but Paul DEFINITELY had it -- IDAHO, 13:52:23 06/01/03 Sun