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• Its still a weak excuse. Blunt fact is we failed to raise a team which is what put us in that position to start with. The referee ultimately responsible for safety is quite within his rights to call uncontested himself if he believes theres a safety issue. Not being able to raise a team/front row does break the rules (NT) -- -, 04:18:49 02/11/05 Fri
  • Raise a team? I don't think that's the issue (NT) -- Eye Jay, 08:39:06 02/11/05 Fri
    • "Raise a team" meaning suitable number of front row players (NT) -- -, 14:51:30 02/11/05 Fri
  • I know it's all water under the bridge now, but I agree that it was the club's responsibility to have enough cover, but as you rightly say, the ref has the responsibility for the players' safety on the pitch. So if he called it (and not our captain) then we should be allowed to keep the three points. Still, all that's important now is that we learn from it.. (NT) -- Graham, 13:08:03 02/11/05 Fri
    • Not really, if the ref calls it for whatever reason you still have in his view a team unable to meet the requirements for suitable front row candidates so same result (NT) -- -, 14:53:06 02/11/05 Fri
• Let's be fair here chaps. It's all well and fair to say that we should have provided front row cover for that game against Quins. However, I seem to remember that we were very unlucky in that game with injuries to most of the props we had in the squad?! It's a scenario that we fortunately do not see too often, but this can happen to any team at any time. Common sense is needed sometimes don't you think?? (NT) -- Alan D, 17:30:37 02/11/05 Fri
• I was under the impression that we did have front row cover for the match, the fact is a guy was on the bench as a hooker not a prop. The fact that he had previously played at prop for us really makes us look stupid whatever way we look at it! My concern is if we end up with 3 front rowers being injured, all replacements used up, another f. row get's injured...do we lose the points for having to go uncontested scrums then??? (NT) -- Glyn, 18:04:14 02/11/05 Fri
  • That may depend on if your club is Llanelli or not (they got away with it and won the league as a result) (NT) -- -, 19:01:59 02/11/05 Fri

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• Re: Ben's Ban -- ITK, 18:07:02 02/10/05 Thu
• Exactly right. Ben has done the job, but we don't have the money to sustain him. Money is very tight, but another win or two and even I will relax about relegation. (NT) -- AD, 20:10:35 02/10/05 Thu

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• PS. these are ONLY league matches, not friendly or cup matches. (NT) -- Graham, 17:11:23 02/10/05 Thu

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• I think the BBC website has been showing us with full points all along. (NT) -- Graham, 11:40:54 02/10/05 Thu
• if they have given the points back, it means they know they were wrong to give Ben a ban but wanted to set an example. This is their way of compensating us. (NT) -- CJ, 12:41:15 02/10/05 Thu
• Just been told by someone on the committee that we haven't got the points back. Ah well, just as well we won last night then. (NT) -- Graham, 14:48:27 02/10/05 Thu
  • Not a real shock that. We were on dodgy ground with any sort of appeal. Lets just hope we learn from it and dont make the same mistake again. Last nights win i think guarantees us safety as it was over Llanharan the only one who realistically could catch us. 20 points clear of the relegation zone. Thats 7 games advantage with 11 to play (NT) -- -, 15:31:24 02/10/05 Thu
    • Unenviable job for the bottom 3 to get out of it. Especially as they need 5 wins more to get above their nearest rivals (assuming their rivals don't win anymore games). Remaining Fixtures for these three are INSIDE. -- Graham, 16:03:32 02/10/05 Thu

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• Re: Score......Full time -- piglet, 21:14:28 02/09/05 Wed
• Brilliant news, thanks CJ you/Ebbw have made my day. (NT) -- Rob, 21:16:36 02/09/05 Wed
• Well done Ebbw and CJ, beer it is then! Excellent character considering everything! (NT) -- Glyn, 21:17:10 02/09/05 Wed
• Yea. Would be a double bonus if we were given those three points back tonight aswel. Cant see it myself though But its worth a small prayer to the gods of rugby (NT) -- CJ, 21:29:48 02/09/05 Wed
• excellent news.made my night.lets hope we can carry it on against bridgend next week. (NT) -- scott(abergavenny), 21:50:11 02/09/05 Wed
• Llanharen people thought that the win was pretty clear cut. Noone from EV agreed. Just glad to get through it! WEll done boys! (NT) -- AD, 21:52:07 02/09/05 Wed
• Tight game -- -, 22:06:54 02/09/05 Wed
  • I think every man gave 100% in effort, but there were still a lot of first-up tackles missed. Mind you their numbers 4 & 8 were really good with ball in hand and took some stopping. Fair play, I think the lads wanted this one. Worried that we've got another prop injured now though (Abu). (NT) -- Graham, 22:14:02 02/09/05 Wed
    • Is a bit worrying, he came out of a pile and eventually limped off very slowly. Was it my imagination or did their try under the posts first half both touch judges keep flag down and ref overrule it as a good kick ? (NT) -- -, 22:16:36 02/09/05 Wed
      • Correct. Both touch judges kept their flags down, but the ref awarded it anyway. (NT) -- Graham, 23:28:20 02/09/05 Wed
        • A decision he got right, in fairness, as the ball shaved the inside of the left hand upright (from the kicker's point-of-view. However, some of his advantage interpretations - for both sides - were strange and his arm signals were totally confusing! Still, not a bad job on a foul night... (NT) -- ebbwboy, 08:39:58 02/10/05 Thu
          • Terrible enforcing of the advantage law throughout. But on the whole, I've seen worse referees this season. At least he was missing the same things for both sides. (NT) -- Graham, 11:44:18 02/10/05 Thu
            • First half in particular we were lucky he didnt intend to card anyone at all ever as we did kill the ball and get called for it a fair amount. Advantage rule best described as "variable". (NT) -- -, 15:34:08 02/10/05 Thu
          • I was on the other 22 so only noticed flags down then ref put his arm in the air so couldnt tell about the kick. Odd both TJs failed to flag it (NT) -- -, 15:33:02 02/10/05 Thu
• Bevan wasn't in touch those at the game Know what i am on about (NT) -- ., 22:49:35 02/09/05 Wed
  • Assuming you're referring to the scotland type incident then he was actually in touch. Our bottle carrier actually went to check the mark on the pitch and satisfied himself he was on the line (NT) -- -, 22:59:47 02/09/05 Wed
  • I was unsighted on that one. I was between the half way and 10 metre lines in our half. (NT) -- Graham, 23:30:09 02/09/05 Wed

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• Half time yes, we were lucky to be ahead. Charge down try and under the kosh for rest of it. (NT) -- -, 22:13:51 02/09/05 Wed
  • Scu showed a clean pair of heels to race in for that one. He is so damn quick. (NT) -- Graham, 22:15:34 02/09/05 Wed

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• I agree Score please CJ? (NT) -- Rob, 21:12:03 02/09/05 Wed

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• Cancel that, their site now says its on. "Ebbw Vale is definitely on. Following the intervention of Alan Thomas, WRU fixtures manager, there has been no further request from the Gwent side to call it off on the grounds of a shortage of props. ". Now to try and find the place -- -, 17:21:00 02/09/05 Wed
  • You and me both fella. I'd follow the supporters bus, but I think it's gone already. (NT) -- Graham, 17:55:31 02/09/05 Wed

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• Rules. Laws (call them what you want). They are there for some players but not for others. As you said, it was a correct decision, but the most important word that seems to be missing from the wru handbook is "consistency". By all accounts, all Ben said was "It's a F-word'ing ruck". Would he have been sent off if he'd been an upcoming Welsh international player? Who knows? But I doubt it. (NT) -- Graham, 12:26:57 02/09/05 Wed
• Our referees think they've got it so rough and aren't respected. They ought to try and referee some of these soccer matches and see if they they can put up with mouthy gits like Rooney screaming and swearing at him. (NT) -- Graham, 12:30:47 02/09/05 Wed
• Oh well. Never mind. You going down tonight Gra. Looking a bit grim at the moment isn't it. We did have a long stretch without many injuries, and knew it couldnt last. I definately wont be able to make it tonight. Am working till 7.30 (NT) -- CJ, 12:31:17 02/09/05 Wed
  • I'll be deciding closer to the time mate. Do I go and support my team (despite being on a hiding to nothing), or do I say shit to Llanharan they won't see any of my money. But I do like to support the Vale no matter what. Now where are the fuses for the Llanharan floodlights? (NT) -- Graham, 16:59:40 02/09/05 Wed
• Very harsh given other bans for other offences (inside) -- -, 15:30:24 02/09/05 Wed
  • Your last paragraph sums it all up. So by their reckoning, it's ok to stamp on a player's head, but you can't use bad language. How would a ref deal with a blood stained player saying "Oi Ref, he stamped on my ****ing head"? Probably send him off for bleeding. (NT) -- Graham, 17:17:49 02/09/05 Wed

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• I doubt its so much a case of us not wanting to borrow players, nut more of that they wont give us any in positions we need them. Aswell as this when regional players played for us last year they didnt look like they wanted to play look at R.Davies performances (NT) -- CJ, 11:41:50 02/09/05 Wed

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• You just beat me to it Graham ! I should have known !! (NT) -- Dai.H, 10:33:36 02/09/05 Wed
  • Is he a lucky player or what? (NT) -- Graham, 11:23:57 02/09/05 Wed

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