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Date Posted:09:32:16 10/06/09 Tue
This is for Jeffs crew..I was wandering your new head design I know it is small "one chamber intake and exaust" have yall ever considerd building them just like that small and seperat like the cummings?? 8 individual heads that work indipendent water brought with lines or something I can see a lot off potential for 8 heads....Just a thought for the gossipers...see ya Joe..
Date Posted:20:49:44 10/06/09 Tue
we've actually discussed it, but it's just not feasible for what we are wanting to do. You would need to lengthen the block and increase the bore spacing to allow enough material to seal the two heads that would meet in between each cylinder. Doing this would definitely increase the weight of the entire engine, and that's not very desired in the type of racing Jeff is intending to do.
But in the case of a burnt piston, it would be very convenient to just pull one individual cylinder head off, drop the pan and replace that one piston and get right back to racing. But again, I don't think it's feasible.
If you all like seeing this kind of stuff, I can send Joe some progress pics every now and then.
Date Posted:07:49:21 10/07/09 Wed
I definately like seeing your progress. You guys do some amazing stuff. Thanks for sharing. Keep the pictures coming!
Date Posted:10:38:41 10/07/09 Wed
hell yea man....If yall need some help on my end coatings and so forth to help yall crack that ass give me a call I want to see the local boys kick that ass......
Date Posted:11:16:28 10/07/09 Wed
But it's a damn shame what a man has to do to catch a SBF...
You can get those from jegs...
http://www.jegs.com/p/Edelbrock/Edelbrock-SB-Ford-Glidden-Victor-Aluminum-Cylinder-Heads/750172/10002/-1
Date Posted:11:27:10 10/07/09 Wed
YOU GOT A WHINEY LIL SNOT FOR A HERO, WHY BECAUSE THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE! JEFF IS ALREADY FASTER THAN YOUR ZERO, THE NEW MOTOR IS FOR THE FAST GUYS IN XTF, AND THAT AIN'T SLOW ASS BILLY -I DONE TOLD YOU BILLY IS DONE, FRIED, NOTTA, HAS-BEEN, WANNA BE RACER AND WILL MOVE TO ANOTEHR EVENT BESIDES THE ADRL.. JUST WATCH!~
Date Posted:14:48:36 10/07/09 Wed
After looking at the points for the year, if i had that much of a lead i would quit for a few weeks to let you're slow ass heros catch up too!!! lmfao
Flowmaster Extreme 10.5
1. Billy Glidden 4592
2. Gary White 3178
3. Jeff Naiser 2663
After seeing that, its no fucking wonder their making them heads.... I would be good an fucking Tired of getting my ass whipped by a SBF too!!
Jeff don't need to build new stuff he needs to go back to that SBC..
Ohhh wait it was only good for 4.40s.....
You just make sure your wearing that Bg shirt at your next race fucker.... ;-)
Date Posted:15:55:53 10/03/09 Sat
3 CARS SHOWED FOR THE 8.5 OUTLAW EVENT,
A LOCAL RACER, DO NOT KNOW THE NAME.
KENNY HUBBARD QUALIFIES WITH A 5.30 FLAT.
TRIANGLE SPEED SHOP PROCHARGER MUSTANG -GOES A 5.27 WITH A 1.28 60'.
Date Posted:17:22:26 10/03/09 Sat
Wow 3 cars. Thats about how many your event is going to have until there are some real rules. Cutting the weight from small blocks aint going to do it. Got to limit bb to one kit.
Date Posted:19:42:47 10/03/09 Sat
AIN'T NOTHING GONNA HAPPEN TILL YOU FELLOWS FIND SOME REAL NAMES AND USE 'EM!!
FINAL: HUBBARD A 5.26 -STUMBLES AT THE TREE AND TRIANGLE SPEED SHOP FOR THE WIN WITH A 5.29!!
***HUBBARD 5.26 FASTEST 8.5 OUTLAW PASS IN THE WORLD!! #3350 -50/50 WEIGHT FRONT TO REAR***
DID YOU GUYS KNOW WHEN KENNY HUBBARD WENT TO VIETNAM KENNY DID THE TUNING BY TEXT MESSAGE ON THE ORANGE NOVA WITH RATDADDY DRIVING @ EVADALE WHILE ON AN 18 HR BUS RIDE OVER IN NAM??? JUST SAYIN A LITTLE LESS KEYBOARD AND AND A LITTLE MORE TRACK TIME, KENNY HAS OVER 80 PASSES WITH 26X9.5'S - SAYS, "I'M WEARING THAT BITCH OUT"!
[> [> [> Subject: TRIANGLE SPEED SHOP WAS @ 3100.... GET THIS THEY TOLD KENNY THEY WOULD ADD #200 POUNDS.....
Date Posted:19:52:42 10/03/09 Sat
I AIN'T EVEN TALKED TO THE GUYS AND THEY ARE WILLING TO ADD WEIGHT, THAT'S SPORTSMANSHIP! MAYBE ADD #100 TO BOTH CARS??
I NOW HAVE A DELIMA, WITH KENNY RUNNING THAT 5.26 WHAT THE HELL DO WE DO?? WE SHOULD BE PROUD KENNY RAN THE 5.26 AND GOLDEN TRIANGLE'S 5.27... SORTA "BUST THAT UP NORTH ASS" WHERE EVER THAT IS.........
WE WILL GET THIS THING "BITCHED THRU", WE GOT PLENTY OF TIME BEFORE OCT 25TH!
Date Posted:08:13:45 10/04/09 Sun
could not have happened to a more diserving man,this guy helps everybody and works his but off ,and didnt want to leave out Bert congrats to both.you were right there was a little more in the orange nova.
Date Posted:12:27:36 10/04/09 Sun
thanks everyone for their support and help.
when i first started about 5 month ago i ran 5.6's then 5.5's and was stuck there. then i changed something and went 5.3's then took the motor out and Slick Rick at NRC redone the heads and Herzog at Arrow Machine did somethings to the motor. now i gotter tuned up!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so please don't hate just appreciate!! LOL
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: CHECK THE TIME SLIP CHECK THE CAR NUMBER- CALL THUNDER ROAD RACEWAY---- THE "IRONMAN" DON'T BULLSHIT!
Date Posted:13:50:15 10/04/09 Sun
WELL... I HEAR THERE MAY BE A FEW DOUBTER'S WHAT THE "IRONMAN" RAN IN 8.5 OUTLAW! YEA FOR YOU YANKEES -THE "IRONMAN" WASN'T HERE YEARS AGO, YOUR LUCKY! HE IS HERE NOW! YOU DON'T WANT HIM TO GET ANGRY -HE WILL COME LOOKING FOR YOU AND MIGHT EVEN BRING HIS CAR!~ JUST SAYIN
WHATS IT TAKE TO GO 5.20'S IN 8.5 OUTLAW YOU ASK?? KENNY BORROWED BURT GOLDEN'S ARROW MACHINE 632 POWERED NOVA.. "CHUNKED IN" A 7531 BOX WITH A SPRINKEL OF NOS.. HE SAYS IF HE GETS AROUND "TUIT" HE JUST MAY BUILD A "PURPOSE BUILT" 8.5 OUTLAW HOTROD THAT WOULD REALLY SCOOT!
NOW ALL THAT BEING SAID THE TRIANGLE SPEED SHOP WAS FIRST INT 5.20'S WITH A 5.27 SHOT.. CAR #57 IS THE TRIANGLE SPEED SHOP MOD MOTOR 8.5 OUTLAW MUSTANG, CONGRATS GUYS ON BEING FIRST IN THE 5.20!~~!
TRIANGLE SPEED WENT ANOTEHR ROUTE, 283 CUBIC INCHES OF 4 VALVE PER CYLINDER FORD MOD MOTOR WITH AN F2 PROCHARGER, THEY DON'T GOT QUITE THE 'HEATHEN IN THEM SOME OF US DO, JUST A BIT CLEANER PROJECT, LOL!!
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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Congrats Guys, It takes a lot of hard work to get to where you are today. Congrats on the win and the outstanding ET's
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Looks like Kenny needs to take some drinin' lessons from the Triangle Speed boys. His car is faster but has gotten treed TWICE!!!!! lol.
Date Posted:13:49:39 10/07/09 Wed
Shit looks like this class need a few real drivers. .090 on the tree you guy's are TURDS!!!! If I cut a light like that i wouldnt show anyone...
Date Posted:18:59:02 10/06/09 Tue
Yea but the mustang has to add 250.lbs joe. Better root for the black 69. Maybe low 30s in good air.
[> [> [> Subject: Becareful for what you ask for, adding 250 pounds to his car may allow him add more boost at the hit and run even faster. Lighter is not always faster with a small tire like that
Date Posted:21:14:57 10/06/09 Tue
Don't leave out Mike Buttafuoco and his Bad White Z... We will be making the trip also..He's going to open up the nitrous bottle all the way instead of half ways...haha
Date Posted:08:41:53 10/07/09 Wed
Be on the lookout for new top dog. And no its not procharged, turbocharged or even kenny hubbard charged. The sleeping giant killer has been awakend.
Date Posted:12:55:46 10/07/09 Wed
358 SBC,New SRP pistons (12.5:1), new rings, new bearings, new cam, new lifters. GM "high nickel" 4-Bolt block.
Canfield aluminum heads,stainless steel valves, GM steel crank, H-Beam steel rods, Ultra-Dyne flat tappet cam, B&B steel pan, Victor Jr. Intake, Howards direct lube lifters, Lunati roller rockers with stud girdle, Chevy cast aluminum valve covers, MSD billet distributor, Holley 750 double pumper gas carb, Moroso water pump.
Ran 5.60 @ 121 mph in Undercover Altered in 95 deg temps.
Launching at 3800rpm, shift at 6400rpm.
Excellent condition... Built with good parts for low maintenance.
Sold Altered, Motor no longer needed. Over $6,500 invested.
Would make a great index motor.
Will sell for $4,500.
Kevin 713-705-7534
Date Posted:18:58:22 10/06/09 Tue
i have a question i have a 1984 chevy 4x4 and i put a chevy 350 in it and the truck idles fine but when you go to drive it and step on the gas it seems to not have any power kind of like it is restricted. could that be the carb it has a quadrajet. it runs fine until you give it alot of gas but it does not bog it just doesnt have any power.
Date Posted:19:10:55 10/06/09 Tue
Do you know the history of the motor you put in it,sounds like the lobes on the cam are gone,i assume its a hydraulic camshaft.Could be a number of reasons to wipe out the lobes on the cam.It will idle fine and sound decent but will not make much power.Just a thought,maybe get lucky and just do a tune up and carb rebuild.
[> [> Subject: Ive seen dirty fuel filters do the same thing in those quadrajets..... Might want to change it out. Its only a couple of bucks. Especially if it hasnt been done in a while...
Date Posted:11:06:29 10/07/09 Wed
Like the above post says check your fuel filter. Then maybe uncap the exhaust and see how it runs. If the motor was out for a while and the exhaust wasn't covered, rain, rust, bugs, leaves, etc. will get in the exhaust and clog it up also.
Date Posted:11:40:07 10/07/09 Wed
with the engine off open the seconday air flap on top of the carberator and as you open it you should see the secondary metering rod hanger lift the secondary metering rods up out of the jets. If they do not rise there is a plastic metering rod cam that breaks that is on the shaft under the lifter. Fairly common on older qjets
Date Posted:10:18:38 10/07/09 Wed
Have a set of Rebco Exacto Weigh 4-wheel race car scales for sale. I have used them to set up cars for years, and have new cables and connectors installed. I am going to update to a new set with more options, and have no need for these any longer.
$600.
Also, we have a set of 5.325 GRP rods, new in the box. 2.100 Chevy journal, .927 pin. Will work well in a 3.400 stroke 5.0 engine...
$500.
Have a NX nitrous fill station. Pump, stand and fittings.
Date Posted:10:32:59 10/04/09 Sun
I HAVE RESIGNED FROM TXDRL EVENT DIRECTOR AND TUFF STREET TECHNICAL DIRECTOR. IT IS TIME FOR ME TO GET BACK TO HAVING FUN RACING.
THANKS TO ALL THAT SUPPORTED TXDRL AND HELPED ME OUT THIS YEAR. I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS. THANKS JOE FOR LETTING ME BE PART OF THE PROGRAM AND I HOPE YOU KNOW I DID THE BEST I COULD.
I WILL FINISH KEEPING THE POINTS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR. GOOD LUCK TO ALL.
Date Posted:11:51:10 10/04/09 Sun
My daughter will be going to college soon and I can't afford both. The plan all along was to put it up for sale at the end of this season to see if it will sell. If it don't sell I will race one more year. After that it will have to go.
I will still be around the sport. I hope to get on the other side of the dollar though.
Racer, I will do the 5.80 tomorrow and 6.60 points on Tuesday morning.
Trevor
[> [> [> Subject: Well hell Trevor , since you are planning on retiring from racing then maybe you should call out all the heavy hitters from Tuff Street , Ultimate Street to TTT5 , and give them all a shot at you to give them something to brag about if they happen to get by you
[> [> [> Subject: Sorry to hear you selling your car. Note to everyone else. Start your 529 college savings plan NOW. If you need help setting one up give me a shout. 281 798 9919
Date Posted:08:49:38 10/05/09 Mon
Is there a such thing as " other side of the dollar" in drag racing? Shuld would like to know, Im tired of being poor....
On a side note, if the car sells..... you might have a fatter wallet, but you will have a hole in your heart forever..... How many times have you heard---- "Man I shouldnt have soldthat car!!!!"
I was raised poor and put myself through school working 2 jobs.... My little sister (much smarter) used up all my parents money going to school and then quit......
Point- Keep the car.... Help the kids with school, but make them responceable for some of the funds to. They will do better and have more pride in the end.....
Date Posted:17:19:10 10/05/09 Mon
Hey look at the time the post was made you stupid mother fucker. I love when you dumb ass fuckers open your mouth and insert your foot. Now how stupid do you look and feel crawl back under your rock. Now I Feel better……..
Date Posted:16:46:32 10/06/09 Tue
Nick Hoffman where are you? send me an e-mail, buddy!
My addresses to you are being returned like the address is no good? thanks! d---
[> Subject: hey d..... damn nice to hear from you!!!!!!!!
Date Posted:05:58:10 10/07/09 Wed
Waiting on Obama's money?? LOL dang this page really works!
Nick I have used that e-mail addy and it got kicked a couple of times, but I just sent a reply and it appears to have gone through. Suze says hey to everyone! we will catch up this evening?
Date Posted:21:46:10 10/05/09 Mon
HP 950 $400, MSD Digital 6 $200, MSD Digital multi stage retard $150, Paxton 300 carb fuel pump $150, and SS Kooks 2"-3.5" colectors headers for Fox mustang R heads, 302 base in very good condition with slip on bullets $800.
I also have 2 different nitrous express 4150 plates and 2 tall skinny #10 bottles all of $100.
Fill free to call kelly 832-435-9486 or email
Thanks for the space joe this should be harecore parts
Date Posted:21:59:32 10/05/09 Mon
Forgot also a JW ultra bell for SBF to PG 157 tooth flywheel $200
converted to mod motor tired of walking over all this stuff
[> [> Subject: send me some pics of the hp 950 if you still have it my email is prooutlaws10@aol.com
Date Posted:22:29:05 10/06/09 Tue
Need 2 used drag radials they only need to hold air. Need so I can move car and mock up. 275, 325,295 or 315-15. 8326409059
Date Posted:20:03:52 10/06/09 Tue
Complete MSD 8 set up all or parts:
MSD 8 Ignition
MSD HVC II Coil
MSD Engine saver
MSD Power tower coil
MSD Billet low profile dist. / BBF
Mez. Billet waterpump/like new / BBF
Lots more stuff see racing junk Ad #1669385 for details or contact :
Date Posted:14:58:16 10/05/09 Mon
if you all on this site had to reccomend a nitrous plate 4500 flange what company would be the best there is a lot to choose from
Date Posted:08:42:26 10/06/09 Tue
Steve buys the plates from Cold Fusion Nitrous. I know because I was at CFN when they were boxing up plates to ship to Steve. I saw the UPS label!
Date Posted:12:03:55 10/06/09 Tue
Yes we have some, half inch thick, they weigh 100 lbs each.... haha.
Just messing with ya Kenny. You are the man to beat.
Date Posted:10:37:31 10/04/09 Sun
See add: http://www.racingjunk.com/category/18/Complete_Race_Cars/post/1671981/FASTEST-STOCK-SUSPENSION-SINGLE-STAGE-NITROUS.html
I will continue to race it until it is sold.
CAR, COMPUTER, 28 FT ENCLOSED TRAILER, FOUR WHEELER COMPLETE RACE OPERATION AND ALL SPARE PARTS $70,000
Date Posted:05:30:28 10/05/09 Mon
$20,000 extra for the computer and logbook. HA! You must be in dreamland. Why would you want to sell the car without that info? Some people
Date Posted:10:25:42 10/05/09 Mon
That car don't roll out like it does WITHOUT that computer and logbook dipshit. The computer does a lot of really trick stuff on his car.
[> [> [> Subject: Yeah for $20,000 you think it dont have traction control? Thats why that cars rolls out the way it does.
Date Posted:13:00:23 10/05/09 Mon
Everytime you run those 5.00s the motor shows up at jeffs burnt up. So for $20,000 that might not be to bad of a deal! Also I thought you said that computer only show you data and controls nothing????????????????????? Get your story stright!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Oh and will that screen get the WB and UPN? I dont wanna miss my shows on TV and fo $20,000 I shouldnt have to!
Date Posted:14:14:49 10/05/09 Mon
WELL IF YOU GONNA TRY TO RUN 5.0/4.90/4.80's YOU GONNA HAVE TO TRY SHIT AND EVERYTHING IS GONNA HAVE TO BE PREFECT. WELL I AM TRYING ALL KINDS OF SHIT AND I AIN'T PREFECT. JUST THE PRICE YOU GOTTA PAY.
Date Posted:00:15:28 10/06/09 Tue
Maybe for the $20,000 you should make those tires not stick out 3 feet from the side of the car. Put some fucking sidepipes on it and you can roll with corvette summer. Ugly fucking car will never bring $70,000. Ha! Everyone is not as stupid as you. Fastest car in the world.Ha! You got a big fucking head. Do you realise what can be bought for $70,000? Especially in todays econemy? Get a life.
Date Posted:20:48:38 10/05/09 Mon
sometimes I see sparks droping down from up under cars going down the tack, what is this? Or whats causing it, coming off the grounds?
Thanks,just would like to know,
Date Posted:21:05:10 10/05/09 Mon
Most likely it is sparks from the starter gear touching the flywheel. During hard launches, the pinion return spring might be too weak to hold the starter pinion gear in the starter.
Date Posted:19:37:12 10/05/09 Mon
im running a 29.5/10.5w slick,but acts like it needs more gear so im going to try an drop down to a 28/10.5 slick and was wondering if anyone has run faster by doing this before.Im running all motor. thanks
Date Posted:01:35:57 10/06/09 Tue
Depends on how much more you're wanting to cross over at. I was running a 30 inch tire and dropped to a 28x10.5 to get more rpm at the big end. It helped some but not as much as I wanted, the gear swap I did a few months later helped a shitload. I know money's tight these days but instead of buying a new set of slicks to solve the problem put some gear in it, you'll be glad you did
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Date Posted:20:05:41 10/04/09 Sun
WE GOT A 3 WAY RACE FOR TUFF STREET POINTS CHAMPION NEXT TXDRL EVENT:
JASON aka "PIPELINE" AND DEWIGHT ARE TIED WITH 307 POINTS EACH-THEN COMES GARLAND DeBORD AND JASON GRACE WITH THE 69 BOSS WITH 304 POINTS IT DON'T GET NO CLOSER THAN THIS FOR THE FINALS!!
DO WE HAVE A SPOILER ABOUT TO RIDE INTO TOWN?? - I GET THIS E-MAIL: "Tell the Pipeline crew to start crying now because there will be another Fogger Killer at the next race."
Date Posted:21:56:12 10/04/09 Sun
Monte Smiths advise on the tune ups keep the ford running real strong and maintenance free. Use his stuff it works. Jason Grace
Date Posted:04:26:47 10/05/09 Mon
Does anyone know anything about the aeoromotive 13201 regulators? I'm thinking about replacing my holley reulators with these. I'll be using one for a cheater system and one for the carb. I don't want to run a return line and someone told me these don't creep as bad as the holleys.
Date Posted:14:30:23 10/05/09 Mon
I HAVE ONE AND MINE HAS A PORT FOR RETURN LINE . I SET IT FOR 8 PSI AND WHEN I HIT THE THROTTLE IT DROPS TO 3 AND A HALF PSI . THEN I PUT RETURN ON IT AND NEVER DROPS PAST 7 AND HALF IF THAT .
Date Posted:14:33:44 10/05/09 Mon
I FIND THAT TO HAVE A ACCURATE FULE PRSSURE A RETURN IS ALWAYS BETTER AND A DEFINATE PLUS FOR NOS. THATS JUST MY OPINION
Date Posted:08:45:21 10/05/09 Mon
I have for sale a custom grind cam motion for 302/351 ford. specs-259/264@.050",109 L.S.A., 586/586 SOLID ROLLER. 75.00 dollars takes it. call chris at 936-697-4589
Date Posted:08:20:37 10/05/09 Mon
I have a Mustang with a 331, 76mm turbo and Jegs Kass heads. It has NGK-8 plugs in it, they are fouled out so before I buy some I was wondering what plug would be best to use. What gap do I set the plugs at?
Date Posted:09:14:52 10/05/09 Mon
Look into these and gap is any where from 28-34 From what I have ran in the past...JMO
R5671-A8 Stock Number 4554, 1 heat range Colder (up to about 600rwhp)
R5671–A9 Stock Number 5238, for 18+psi, 2 heat ranges colder 650+ rwhp
R5671–A10 Stock Number 5820, for race cars.
Date Posted:14:28:18 10/05/09 Mon
Yes It's a great system, whatever you do don't buy a super powershot system. I was using one of these years ago spaying 150 shot (I believe that's as high as it will go) and switched to a cheater system jetted at 150 and picked up 5 or 6 tenths of a second in the 1/8.
Subject: 1982 s10 race ready for sale in classifieds- thanks Joe it is not mine but I will make sure he contributes.
Date Posted:20:07:21 10/04/09 Sun
I am in need of a 351w block, roller ready. Stock or aftermarket considered. Let me know what you have and what condition it's in. Prefer std bore.
Thanks for the space.
[> Subject: I've got one. 351W roller block from lightning. Standard bore. 281 798 9919
Date Posted:21:17:19 10/04/09 Sun
Have a early model 4L60E (pre 7 bolt) fresh from Arabie no fluid since rebuilt. also brand new converter for 1200. 409-789-7430
Date Posted:00:38:36 10/04/09 Sun
I'm looking into replacing my front suspension on my 86 1/2 ton chevy. right now it has bell tech 3 inch drop spindles and 1 inch drop coil springs with an extra coil cut off of them to get it lower but it's still not low enough to match the backhalf job. I was checking out the fatman fabrication complete bolt in kit with lightweight crossmember, tubular a-arms and mustang two rack and pinion style steering and coil over shocks. Two questions, is there more reputable kits than this one and how do these kits act on the dragstrip as far as weight distribution off the line? Thanks
Date Posted:07:36:34 10/04/09 Sun
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/ lok on here in the street rod section. they have universal mustang II crossmembers and all the arm stuff.
[> Subject: Hi! I have a similar setup....1/2 ton chevy pickup that is backhalved, lowered....email me.
Date Posted:10:34:22 10/01/09 Thu
would someone please make the set of rules final on the class im working on a sbc combo rite now and i dont want to spend all this money and every things changes once a week
Date Posted:10:50:19 10/01/09 Thu
IF WE KNEW WHAT CARS WERE COMING FOR THE 8.5 OUTLAWS AND THE COMBO'S THEY WERE RUNNING AND HOW FAST THEY WERE....
WE COULD COME UP WITH A SET OF RULES THE FIRST TIME THAT WOULD WORK........ IT'S SORTA LIKE DRIVING DOWN THE HIGHWAY, YOU CHANGE YOUR SPEED AS THE NEED ARISES, JUST SAYIN
Date Posted:11:19:46 10/01/09 Thu
lets just stick with something it really doesnt matter what combos and how much power they make a guy can buy a 800ci bb with 5 kits and a he isnt gonna go any faster than some like kenny or the other guys its all about getting it down the track thats why kenny runs so good cause he knows how to tune a car and get it down the track thats what this class is all about is technoligy i think
[> [> [> Subject: JIMMY WHAT YOU SAID WOULD BE TRUE "IF"....
Date Posted:12:45:40 10/01/09 Thu
WE WERE ALREADY TO THE POINT THE TIRE IS THE LIMITING FACTOR.
WHEN WE GET "ON THE TIRE" ie -THE TIRE SIZE IS THE LIMITING FACTOR, WHAT YOU SAID IS TRUE.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE'RE "NOT ON THE TIRE". WE HAVE TO ADJUST THE RULES TO GET ENOUGH RACE CARS "ON THE TIRE" TO HAVE A CLASS. IF ONLY A COUPLE CARS RUNS IN THE 30'S AND EVERYONE ELSE IS 50 & 5.60'S.. THE CLASS WILL DIE.
WE HAVE TO BALANCE THE RULES TO ALLOW AT LEAST 8 CARS TO BE COMPETITIVE -ie -A SHOT AT WINNING WITH THEIR COMBINATION. THE CLOSER RACING WE HAVE THE RACERS WILL COME BACK AND THE FANS WILL ENJOY THE EVENT. WITH THIS LAST RULE ADJUSTMENT ALLOWING THE SB TO RUN AT A LIGHTER WEIGHT HOPEFULLY THAT WILL GET US 8 CARS THAT'S WITHIN A .1 OF WINNING.
IN THE PAST WITH THE HOUSTON TRUE TENS I DIDN'T CHANGE ANY RULES FOR 3 YEARS AND IT TOOK 3 YEARS TO GET 8 COMPETITIVE CARS... THIS TIME I WILL TRY ADJUSTING THE RULES "ON THE FLY" TO TRY AND GET THE CARS COMPETITIVE IN A LOT SHORTER TIME FRAME THAN 3 YEARS... THATS THE PLANS ANYWAY
Date Posted:13:22:05 10/01/09 Thu
Drop the smallblock weights enough to get them in the game. They can play now but never be competitive, drop it till you get some players and see what it takes. Some of the previous post made sense about smallblocks and there are a lot of us out here. damn if themo cant get it done on a regular basis hows us lil guys gonna do it. Hey just sayin.
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: FRED, FIRST DROPPING #200 IS A MAJOR -MAJOR CHANGE TRYING TO GET THE SMALL BLOCKS COMPETETIVE
Date Posted:15:00:08 10/01/09 Thu
YOU DON'T DROP THE WEIGHT SO THE SLOWEST CAN BE COMPETITIVE, YOU ADJUST THE RULES SO THE BEST OF EACH COMBINATION WILL BE COMPETITIVE.
Date Posted:16:09:14 10/01/09 Thu
With all due respect another class tried that a couple of years ago when lamar was running a 465 " tre nitrous motor with 3 kits and he melted that motor more than once if my memeory serves me correctly and finally said fuck it Ill go turbo like everybody else . Then orsca in 07 went to 2800 and then to 2600 in 08 and in 08 TTT5 went to 2600 and guess what a smallblock never won a race. Yes they were more competitive but they still didnt win. Smallblocks are behind the 8 ball but people still like to race them , in my case its what i can afford. In others cases its what they prefer, the sad thing is why is every class out there afraid to give the little motors a fair chance? Why not ask some guys like LAMAR or THEMO or JEFF NAISER someone that has been there where they think the weights would be fair at. Those three guys have raced some of the best smallblocks ever built and i am not sure if they had an over whelming success doing it! To date two now run big blocks and one still has a smallblock. Ask their honest opinion where weights should be for a little motor to be competitive. One thing to consider on that though is very few of us smallblock guys will ever own a motor as capable as these just mentioned. I dont want to sound disrespectful I am just very interested in this class and dont want to get into it knowing I dont have a chance in hell. For what its worth. thanks
Date Posted:16:44:45 10/01/09 Thu
I have read all the talk and banter back and forth. FOr sure small blocks with nitrous have to get a weight break agaainst BB with Nitrous or why would anyone in their right mind run the class with a small block? Iguess just to show up and hope everyone breaks or red lights. Now Joe you really have it in for boosted cars. Triangle goes 5.36 and Hubbard goes 5.36 with 1 mph difference and right away the nitrous gang and you Joe say add weight so he ca't win. It may take 5 more races for him to compete and win. Now let's look at your weight break for Turbo's. V-8 turbo car has to weigh 3350lbs. You are nuts. They do not even have to weigh that to race TT5 and they are on 29 X10.5. So give them a smaller tire and add 150lbs. You not only want them to loose you want them to wreck. Why is eveyone afraid of boosted cars?
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: BOOSTED YOU LIE AND HAVEN'T READ SHIT!
Date Posted:17:11:37 10/01/09 Thu
YOU SAY: "Triangle goes 5.36 and Hubbard goes 5.36 with 1 mph difference and right away the nitrous gang and you Joe say add weight so he ca't win."
BOOSTED LEARN TO READ BEFORE YOU POST LIES AGAIN!
Date Posted:17:59:57 10/01/09 Thu
ASK TRIANGLE SPEED WHAT I SAID AND DON'T REPEAT LIES.. DON'T SAY YOUI HAVE READ SHIT WHEN IT'S OBVIOUS YOU HAVEN'T BITCH!
Date Posted:02:37:13 10/04/09 Sun
Such language. It's nice to see you have a large vocabulary. Here is the point if you would have read on. What kind of sense does it make to anyone to require Turbo Cars in your 8.5 class to add 150lbs and put them on smaller tires? Makes sense more weight and smaller tires. If that isn't dangerous I do not know what is. Your command of the english language would make you a great negotiator Joe.... f this and f that and shi this and shi that. Outstanding.....
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I can say in 1 sentenance what will take you a life time to say Mr. Boosted.
Date Posted:12:04:04 10/04/09 Sun
It takes no skill or balls to call a man a bitch and take a half a page to do it.
I can call a man a bitch in one word! Cowards like you don't mind calling a guy a bitch and take a half a page to do it, you just leave plenty back doors so you can backup on what you said if you see a black eye coming.
Me, i'll use the word bitch and take the black eye, cock sucker! <------ see how i can say in one sentence! I hope it didn't go over your head!
Date Posted:19:47:20 10/01/09 Thu
HERE IS THE POINTS SCOREING SYSTEM FOR THE TXDRL, WITH A LITTLE LUCK WE WILL GET IN OUR LAST RACE THE END OF THIS MONTH OCT 24TH. IT WAS ORIGINALLY SCORED FOR 8 RACES, HERE ARE THE REVESIONS FOR A 6 RACE SERIES.
EVERYONE PLEASE CHECK OUT WHAT IS WRITTEN IN RED AND SEE IF YOU AGREE *IF YOU ARE IN THE POINTS SERIES FOR ANY CLASS. IF YOU WOULD LIKE A DIFFERENT SCOREING POST UP OR CLICK HERE TO SEND ME AN E-MAIL!.
TREVOR HAS KEPT THE THE POINT SYSTEM THIS YEAR AND I MIGHT ADD FOR NO PAY.
NOW SINCE TREVOR IS IN THE POINTS CHASE HE HAS ASKED ME TO DECIDE HOW TO HANDLE THE REVISED POINTS SYSTEM. FOR ME I SUGGEST USING WHAT I POSTED IN RED.
REBUTAL PLEASE.............., PLEASE USE A REAL NAME OR FOR EVER HOLD YOUR PIECE!
CLICK HERE FOR THE TXDRL POINTS RULES PAGE.. NOTICE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE THE LAST REVISON CHANGE FOR THE POINTS RULES WAS 4-06-09
TXDRL 2009 Points System
Heads up Classes Points
Tech Card 20
Each Round Win 20
ET Record 20
Q #1 = 16 thru Q #16 = 1 16
Qualify at all eight races 50 QUAL. ALL 6 RACES =37.5 POINTS
Pro Index Classes Points
Tech Card 20
Each Round Win 20
Best Reaction Time at Race 20
Q #1 = 16 thru Q #16 = 1 16
Participate in all eight races 50 PARTICIPATE IN ALL 6 RACES =37.5 POINTS
- Drop two lowest scores from all eight races 6 RACES
- Bonus points awarded if qualify at all eight events 6 RACES
- Records must be backed up within 1% at same event
- Only one tech card per event
- Only one class per event
- Must break the beams under vehicle power
- Bye runs are optional, but will ONLY earn points if the beams are broken under own power in next round of event
- NHRA Pro Ladder, 16 cars qualify in heads up classes
- Points and associated documents will be posted on the TXDRL website
- Each race team will have the ability to check their points
- Any errors found in the points calculation will need to be reported prior to the next scheduled race
- Points will be locked the day of the next scheduled race and any errors reported after the fact will NOT be corrected
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Date Posted:22:12:05 10/01/09 Thu
THE QUESTION WE PROBABLY NEED TO DISCUSS, IS IF WE DROP 1 RACE OR 2 WORST RACES... AND WHAT WILL WE DO IF RAIN OUT LAST RACE.
I SAY IF WE JUST HAVE 5 RACES, JUST DROP 1 RACE FOR SURE.. I'M ABOUT 50/50 SHOULD WE DROP 1 OR 2 RACES IF WE COMPLETE 6 RACES.
MORE THOUGHTS PLEASE..
Date Posted:14:56:33 10/02/09 Fri
I think we should drop all Bonus point's, Especially since i had to miss a race. LOL!! I don't really care, I race for money not points. Whatever you do is fine with me.
[> [> [> Subject: THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AT THE TRACK TONITE.....
Date Posted:01:56:13 10/03/09 Sat
HERE IS HOW WE'RE COMING DOWN:
THE RACERS FEEL IF THEY MADE ALL THE RACES THEY SHGOULD GET THE 50 POINTS.. OK 50 POINTS FOR ATTENDING THE ALL THE TXDRL EVENTS.
SECOND ISSUE WAS A BIG ISSUE ON DROPPING POINTS FROM 2 EVENTS, NOBODY WANTS TO DO IT!! HERE IS HOW IT CAME DOWN TONITE: IF WE DROP THE POINTS FROM 2 EVENTS, IT MUST BE EVENTS YOU ATTENDED. YOU CAN'T USE AN EVENT YOU DID NOT ATTEND AND COUNT THAT AS A POINTS EVENT YOU WANT TO DROP.
THE VOTE IS, 50 BONUS POINTS FOR ATTENDING EVERY EVENT, not 37 1/2. *AGREED*
NEXT ISSUE KEEP ALL THE POINTS YOU HAVE, NO DROPPING 2 EVENTS. *AGREED*.
THE GUYS SAID IF WE CAN DROP EVENTS YOU DID NOT ATTEND THEY WILL DROP THE 2 RAINOUTS. SO IT SEEMS DROPPING POINTS IS A MUTE ISSUE -EVERYONE DROPS THE 2 RAINOUTS AND KEEPS ALL THE POINTS THEY HAVE EARNED THIS YEAR
NEXT YEAR... NO DROPPING ANY POINTS... YOU KEEP EVERYTHING YOU HAVE EARNED AND LET THE CHIPS FALL WHERE THEY MAY.
PEACE OUT!
[> [> [> [> Subject: WITH THAT, I HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED FROM THE CHASE FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP...
Date Posted:17:51:03 10/03/09 Sat
SPORTING BOTH SOLENOIDS. THE DUAL'ERS. RUMOR HAS IT TWO OF THE THREE WANABEE CHAMPS WON'T SHOW IF I SHOW WITH BOTH SOLENOIDS. LOOKS LIKE IT MAY BE A SOLO RUN FOR THE GOLD MEDAL.
I DID SOME CALCS TODAY. A FOGGER WITH THE BIG SOLENOID IS GOOD FOR 1400 HP. TWO .157 SOLENOIDS, EIGHT .125 JETS, THE SOLENOIDS ARE THE RESTRICTION. MY PLATE IS ONLY GOOD FOR 1000 HP, TWO .157 SOLENOIDS, TWO .125 JETS, THE JETS ARE THE RESTICTION. I MIGHT BE ASKING FOR A THIRD FOR NEXT YEAR...
Trevor
strych9 racing - killing them all, and letting GOD sort them out.
[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Is this guy for real? What an idiot!
Date Posted:18:37:45 10/03/09 Sat
BEEN CALLED WORSE, AND IT DID NOT BOTHER ME THEN NOR DID IT WHEN YOU OPENED YOUR MOUTH.
Trevor strych9 racing - killing them all, and letting GOD sort them out.
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: TREVOR YOU ELIMINATED YOURSELF. YOU WASN'T WORRIED ABOUT POINTS WHEN YOU SET OUT THE RACE THE WEEK BEFORE OKLHOMA RACE. WHY SO PISSY WHEN IT IS OBVIOUS YOU DIDN'T CARE ABOUT POINTS?
Author:
now your mad because somebody else is about to win the points, you didn't even try. whats up with that?
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Date Posted:20:11:41 10/03/09 Sat
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: GOD HELP YOU, YOU ARE ALL IDIOTS...
Date Posted:03:27:40 10/04/09 Sun
he knew that when he blew his motor up a coulpe time this year that he was out of the points! Its really simple make all the races then you would have a 50 bounus. instead you want to fuck all of the other racers points so you can will the championship. I got news for you, you are not in the cub scouts any more ( at least I would guess not!) but the people who supported all of the TXDRL races deserve there 50 points. just because you are all but out of the championship this year maybe you should have thought anbout coming out and supporting joes races instead of coming out and watching while the other guys hammer on there cars. All of your fellow races wanna say thanks for calling us idiots! even though you showed up over an hour before we started 1st rd! Your excused dont hold water that you had to work! You dont have a chance at winning this last race cuz i know of 3 or 4 that are perpared to beat your record at the next event while you comtinue to blow your shit up! You did good but everyone is not a winner sorry! Im sure thats stright from the cub scout hand book. You sure know how to make friends. Did you ever think that why you dont have any friends at the tracks! Maybe you should start by quit calling the idiots! JMO!
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: REGGIE, YOU DON'T KNOW EVEN PART OF THE STORY....
Date Posted:23:21:06 10/01/09 Thu
I run 303 tractor fluid in mine. Seems to hold the heat better. Add a quart of normal tranny fluid to give it a "tint" to make it easier to read.
Date Posted:09:02:16 10/02/09 Fri
It all depends on the car. give us a lil more info.
but on a side note
no transcooler,run a synthetic,takes the heat better without breaking down
If you are happy with the stall,use a dexIII fluid
you want it to tighten up,run the tractor fluid as daniel suggested,it will tighten the convertor up and the planets will be happier with it.
Date Posted:15:48:00 10/02/09 Fri
SAE 20 is same as trans fluid, they have SAE 30,40 and 50 if you want to tighten the converter up some.
Transmission Fluid for High HP Race Cars
Neal Racing Transmissions highly recommends the use of AMSOIL Compressor Oil for use in all of our transmissions, especially those in extreme horsepower applications. There are two specific reasons why we want our customers to use this fluid;
Very High Flash Point - AMSOIL Compressor Oil has a much higher flashpoint than regular transmission fluid - It's rated at 495° and a firepoint of 522°. Many other brands of conventional transmission fluids have flashpoints between 320° for Type F to 375° for Dexron. That's a big increase and could save you from a fire someday.
No Friction Modifiers - AMSOIL Compressor Oil has no friction modifiers. These transmissions are going into race cars, slipping clutches is not something we want to happen so we don't need friction modifiers to make our shifts "smoother". Note: Regular AMSOIL transmission fluid does have friction modifiers in it.
We've used this specific oil in many of the fastest powerglide race cars in the world with great success. The AMSOIL Synthetic Compressor oil is both safer and helps our transmissions live longer, more productive lives so they can go out and set records and annihilate the competition.
SYNTHETIC COMPRESSOR OIL (ISO 46, SAE 20)
Stock # Pkg/Size
PCI-01 12 Quarts
PCI-05 5 Gallon Jug
Trevor
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[> [> [> [> Subject: TREVOR WHAT TRANS FLUID WERE YOU USING WHEN YOUR HURT THE TRANS AND WHAT PARTS DID YOU HURT? JUST WONDERING.. I HAVE HAD GOOD LUCK WITH EXXON ATF IN THE PAST
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Damn Joe your loyal to Exxon . didn't you use to work at Exxon the one at the corner of Decker Dr. and Rolling Brook the one that makes that high dollar gasoline. LOL
Date Posted:04:25:52 10/03/09 Sat
FRIDAY NITE WAS 'JUMPIN!! WHAT A PERFECT NITE FOR DRAG RACING, FULL MOON AND ALL!! THE LITTLE GUY IN THE MIDDLE IS THE HEAD STARTER -JESSIE'S COUSIN, FIRST TIME TO HMP WELCOME ABOARD SONNY!
WE GOT OUR HMP REGULARS!!
HOW ABOUT 3 PULLS FOR 50 BUCKS!! THE MOBILE DYNO IS AT HMP ON FRI NITES!
GOLFCART FOR SALE, I DIDN'T FIND OUT HOW MUCH... GOTTA GET SOMETHING BIGGER TO TOW A PICKUP!! CALL IF YOU NEED A CART!
ALWAYS PRETTY LADIES @ HMP!
THE TXDRL 8.5 OUTLAW CLASS IS VERY POPULAR. WE HAVE ONE OF THE WIDEST DIVERSITY OF CARS RUNNING IN A CLASS I HAVE EVER SEEN. THIS CLASS IS JUST :OVER THE TOP: !
HEY I GOT A CLOSE UP AND EVEN GOT A FINGER DOWN A PORT, LOL!!
THE NASIERNATOR WAS DOING SOME TESTING. KENNY HUBBARD JUST FINISHED A COMPLETE REWIRE OF THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS
BADD AZZ BATTERY.. I HAVE NEVER SEEN NOTHING LIKE THIS!! THIS IS A LITHIUM RACE CAR BATTERY THAT COST $2,000!! IT ONLY WEIGHTS 6 POUNDS.. AND THE VOLTAGE IS PROGRAMABLE UP TO 22 VOLTS. THOSE ARE THE SMALL BATTERY CLIPS!
THERE IS THE LED SCREEN AND THE UP AND DOWN BUTTONS CHANGE YOUR VOLTAGE. YOU CAN HAVE ANY VOTAGE YOU WANT FROM 12 VOLTS TO 22 VOLTS OT ANYTHING IN BETWEEN JUST BY JOGGING THE BUTTONS AND READIN GTHE LED SCREEN!. NOTICE THE BATTERY LUG COMPAIRED TO THE BATTERY SIZE!
SMITH RACING PROMOD WITH CHRIS SMITH AT THE WHEEL!
HERE YOU GO A FUTURE DRAG RACE STAR MAYBE!!!!
"SLICK RICK" WALKING LARRY PEARCE BACK TO THE 'LINE....
HERE YOU GO OVER 300 PICS FROM FRIDAY NITE!! CLICK ONE OF THE SMALL PICS FOR A LARGER IMAGE!
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Date Posted:11:31:49 10/03/09 Sat
WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE WHAT WEIGHT CHRIS PALMER'S TURBO V6 CAN COME IN AND RUN. THE V6 TURBO MIGHT GET IN AT PROCHARGER WEIGHT....
CHRIS NEEDS SOME 10" FORD PATTERN WHEELS, THEN A TEST SESSION THEN NEXT STOP THE TXDRL AND THE 8.5 OUTLAWS
Date Posted:15:35:49 10/03/09 Sat
he might as well that slow ass green thang. he is always begging every time some one ask him to race.so show the dam slow time.
Date Posted:13:51:39 10/03/09 Sat
Looking for a Stroud setup, with or without parachute - Figured someone may have changed from mechanical to air controled - appreciated
[> Subject: give billy stocklin a call. he has one they just replaced with air. 512-845-9656
***NEW WEIGHT BREAKS GO INTO EFFECT TODAY FOR BOTH CLASSES ***
CHECK THE
8.5 OUTLAW RULES.. WE HAVE MADE SOME WEIGHT ADJUSTMENTS FOR SMALL BLOCK NITROUS IS #2900 -TOOK OFF #200, SMALL BLOCK SUPER CHARGED STAYS THE SAME @ #3100
Date Posted:16:54:49 09/30/09 Wed
can i get a break i think i should weigh about 2800 that should do it. thanks for considering my request. if not i understand.
[> [> Subject: THE SMALL BLOCK NITROUS CARS SEEM TO NEED SOME ENTICEMENT TO COME ON OUT........
Date Posted:19:46:58 09/30/09 Wed
I WAS THINKING A #100 BUT THAT PROBABLY WOULD NOT HELP. WE CAN ALWAYS TAKE BACK #50 OR SO IF ANYONE GETS OUT OF CONTROL.
I see that a SB in Tuff is now 2900 base weight but what about me. Do I still have to add 200 pound's to make weight due to the Yates. Please guy's let me run at 3000. If I get to quick you can throw 100 pounds on me I wont bitch. Just a thought. Thank's
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: WHATS THE DEAL ON YATES HEADS??
Date Posted:22:02:18 09/30/09 Wed
Joe Im the only Yates headed car that has ever run with yall in Tuff and I havent dominated anything. The rule's still state I have to add 200 pounds. Just trying to get this figured out. I will email trevor to see. Thanks Joe
Date Posted:00:15:45 10/01/09 Thu
Stephen your car will start out with a " Base Weight of 2900 lbs " since you have yates heads you have to add 200lbs to your set just like before. So with the rule change you will get to run at 3100 instead of 3300 like before he rule change.
Date Posted:06:08:25 10/01/09 Thu
#3350 FOR 8.5 OUTLAW... COME RUN AT WEIGHT AND WE WILL ADJUST THE WEIGHT UP OR DOWN..
READ THE TURBO RULES AT THE BOTTOM OF THE RULES PAGE:
http://txdrl.com/TEXAS_OUTLAW_8.5_RULES.htm
THIS CLASS IS NOT FOR EVERYONE, WE ARE TRYING TO GET ON TOP OF THE WEIGHT BREAKS TO MAKE IT AN "ANYONE HAS GOT A CHANCE TO WIN CLASS".. WE DON'T WANT ANY COMBINATION TO HAVE A BIG ADVANTAGE.
KENNY SAYS M&H HAS A TEST CAR, V-6 TURBO CHEVELLE @ #3600 RUNS 5.30'S ON 8.5'S... YOU GET TO RUN #250 POUNDS LITE, COME ON LETS TRY IT!
Date Posted:06:24:44 10/01/09 Thu
It's cool Calhoun. I understand it's saying I have to weigh 3100. But how is this an advantage for me. Let's compare your car to mine. Yes I do have Yates heads. But you and I both know your car makes more power than mine. You now have to weight 2900 and I have to weight 3100. Not bitching cause I will show up at 3100 if needed. But would like alittle more break if possible. Having to weight 3300 was killing me.
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Steven the rule is being changed Yates add #100... you can run @ #3000
Date Posted:13:50:19 10/01/09 Thu
This is a good thing. I think this class is going to take off next year. I'm glad you don't have to weight that much next year Stephen, I believe it is a more competetive playing field now.
Now the hard part is to get 200lbs out of my pig !!!! wow that is alot of work looks like my offseason is going to be a fun one. If your not working/tweaking on your set up then it is not fun and gets old fast. I agree with all the changes and can't wait till next year to run for a points championship.
I will finished my season up with the last Tuff Street race and Evadale Ultimate Street Race and then tear the car apart.
Trevor what do you think about the 1 piece fiber glass front clips. Do you think it should be left the way it is. This would help lose some wieght off the front of the car for sure. As is sits right now it is illegal in T/S, U/S and TTT5.
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GLASS AS LONG AS IT LOOKS FACTORY.
Date Posted:15:21:35 10/01/09 Thu
CALHOON GREAT TOPIC WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT.
I WILL GET WITH TREVOR AND SEE WHAT HE SAYS. I THOUGHT ABOUT TAKING WEIGHT OFF IS HARD TO DO -MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE ADDED WEIGHT TO THE BB CARS.
I THINK FOR THE SMALL BLOCK CARS TO BE COMPETITIVE EITHER ADD WEIGHT TO THE BB CARS OR LET THE SB GUYS LOOSE WEIGHT, EVEN IF IT MEANS ADDING "GLASS". I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A RULE "GLASS FOR SB CARS ONLY" BUT MUST RETAIN THE FACTORY LOOK.
NO "FLAPPIN IN THE BREEZE" FIBERGLASS FRONT ENDS IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
MAYBE FIBERGLASS DOORS OR FRONT ENDS BUT NOT BOTH. DEPENDING ON THE CAR DOORS HAVE MORE POTENTIAL TO GET RID OF WEIGHT. IF WE ALLOW FIBERGLASS DOORS YOU WILL HAVE TO KEEP THE FACTORY LOOK WITH FACTORY DOOR HANDLES AND FACTORY LOOKING LEXAN.
JUST SOME STUFF TO TALK ABOUT....................
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I WOULD LIKE TO STAY AWAY FROM THE COMPLETE FRONT CLIPS. NOT TOO MANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS ALLOW THEM....
Date Posted:15:50:06 10/01/09 Thu
BUT YOU CAN REPLACE ALL THE FRONT END PARTS WITH GLASS PARTS. IT WON'T BE AS LIGHT AS THE CLIP, BUT YOU WILL BE LEGAL FOR MOST ALL CLASSES.
WE MIGHT THINK ABOUT ALLOWING DOORS AND FENDERS ON SMALL BLOCK CARS ONLY. BUT YOU WILL STILL ONLY BE LEGAL FOR TUFF STREET. I GUESS YOU COULD AWAYS HANG THE STEEL DOORS BACK ON IT FOR OUT OF TOWN RACES.
I AGREE WITH JOE, WHATEVER WE DO HAS TO LOOK FACTORY.
Trevor
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: IS THERE A WEIGHT BIAS RULE FRONT TO REAR LIKE 8.5 OUTLAW
Date Posted:23:25:57 10/01/09 Thu
I believe the rules are you can have fiberglass doors or fenders but not both. Yeah I just looked it up on the ttt5 site
Fiberglass limited to Hood, Bumpers, Deck Lid, front fenders or doors, limited to doors or fenders, not both. No one piece fiberglass front ends.
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: We want everyone to be competetive in Tuff Street next year we want to see a war for the points leader!! If your combination needs a little help get wiith Trevor. We gave the small blocks #200 -took #100 off yates heads, if there is anything else we need to do let us know!! Thanks for running with the TXDRL!
Date Posted:17:17:46 10/02/09 Fri
I mean it would be different if they were dominating the class but an ls1 car has not qualified #1 at any race or won any races, so what gives. All the inline valve ls stuff flows about the same as what the rest of the small block guys do.
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I Hope this don't strike any nerves
Date Posted:20:18:02 10/02/09 Fri
While taking a break, I see that we are trying to give the small block a weight break, I still think thats not enuff to help them be competitive.
Example.
BB = 975 to 1100 hp. w/ avg. 900 to 1050 torque
SB = 750 to 925 hp w/ avg. 650 to 750 torque
add NOS 350 to 700 hp, and now maybe 800 to 1000.
the small block will not take 800 to 1000.
Where I see the small block hurting is in the heads that they had been limited too. What kinda heads do the small block needs to get more power to inhance there speed.
just a thought.
Date Posted:13:51:37 10/03/09 Sat
WE DON'T HAVE ANY LX'S THAT RUN TUFF STREET .. IF SOMEONE WANTS TO COME RUN, MAKE A FEW RACES AND WE WILL Look AT ADJUSTING WEIGHTS............ GOTTA HAVE SOMETHING TO GO BY!
Date Posted:17:51:58 10/01/09 Thu
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[> Subject: That baner ad for armdrop says february
Date Posted:09:59:02 10/03/09 Sat
Hello Racers, I have a sbf that had a MSD low mount Dizzy with Crank Trigger..CAN I use the Dizzy without the crank trigger like a red MSD and jus put a Stock Timimg marker bracket down bye the balancer..thanks
Date Posted:13:38:30 10/03/09 Sat
If the low mount distributor has a pickup then yes you can use it for both pickup and spark distribution. You already have a TDC to go from on balancer for setting timing.
Date Posted:02:54:48 10/03/09 Sat
I GOT A BIG SCOOP TONITE... RICHARD OTWELL AKA "TEAM O" HAS A NEW DON NESS CAR ABOUT READY, TENTATIVE PLANS ARE TO RUN IT IN THE ADRL PRO STOCK CLASS.
RICHARD IS THE OWNER OF THE DON NESS CAR JEFF "NASIERNATOR" NAISER RUNS IN XTF, OTWELL DONATED THE CAR, JEFF SUPPLIED THE DRIVE TRAIN AND RUNS THE ADRL XTF CIRCUIT.
Date Posted:22:11:32 10/02/09 Fri
Comp Sales was the only one who had them last time I was in a hurry. I'm sure Someone else may know of another shop,but they almost ALWAYS have them. Ask for Billy
[> Subject: I got what you want sell for 500 dollars. Pump, hoses, tank, mandrell, and even the regulator that goes in valve cover. All for $500 (956) 245-7771
Date Posted:21:44:49 10/02/09 Fri
On a MSD distributor with a push on rotor what would the part for the rotor number would be? will it be on a stock application?
Date Posted:21:14:40 10/02/09 Fri
have a sbc with 4.56 gears crossing up at 7000 rpm with a 29.5/10.5w,wanting it to cross up at higher rpms an was wondering if it would help an maybe go faster if i dropped down to a 28/10.5 slick.thanks
Date Posted:18:50:24 10/01/09 Thu
How much footage do you have to convert / edit? I maybe interested in doing for you / us HRG. Do you still have an old VHS recorder and or player to use to load it on to a computer? I do not have anything left from that era...LOL Send me a email if your interested kevin@nitroart.com Best Buy has some software to do it for about $60.00 from a recorder or a player.
Date Posted:05:34:44 10/02/09 Fri
ALL YOU NEED IS A DVD RECORDER WITH VHS IN IT. IF YOU DONT FIND ANYONE LET ME KNOW AND I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO IT FOR YOU.
Date Posted:12:48:49 10/02/09 Fri
What I had in mind was to transfer the VHS to the PC and with the way technology has improved; the video could be made better than the original VHS tape is now. The colors sound can be improved, and titles and dates could be added including some of the drivers names ect. A straight burn to DVD from VHS may not do the vintage footage any real Justus there could be some classic rare information that could make for some great off season viewing on HRG.
Date Posted:16:13:31 10/02/09 Fri
Hmmm,
It appears that people are enjoying this awesome weather and hanging out ,,, OUTSIDE !!Not at their pc chiming in about tonight's TnT's
I'm stuck at work,,, waiting for the clock to hit 4:30,,, then I'm outta here. I'll be there Sunday but not tonight!
Date Posted:16:44:09 10/02/09 Fri
you lying no post reading assholes you cannt scatter shit with a rake, you never amounted to shit and you never will, you cannt even poor piss out of a boot with directions on the heel saying this end up. Damn that is theraputic. Feels good, I always wondered what that would feel like
Date Posted:14:17:04 10/01/09 Thu
Hey you Dumbass, He didn't ask if he could read the torque specs, He's ask'n what are the Torque specs such as what do you torque the bolts too in ft lbs..If I knew I would tell em..2nd, Learn how too type as I can't see your Letters..Turn the Caps off Idiot!
Date Posted:09:19:04 10/02/09 Fri
First off,you need a set of main studs to do the job,torque the mains to spec then torque the girdle to 45lbs. should be fine
Date Posted:11:47:35 09/30/09 Wed
Wow what a response! There is definetly an interest. Hey Joe got a headache yet? LOL . Ok like I have said before yes I am a smallblock guy so I am speeking for the underdog/smallblock guys. So far after a couple of days of suggestions and personal opinions on what should happen things sound pretty fair. Clint had some good ideas but he needs to remember back in the day when he was running n20, how many races did he win at those weights? Did he feel like it was fair at the time? The great thing that you have here is most classes have a dozen rules about factory this, stock that , street this blah blah blah. This class has minimal rules , doors weights and tires. Every person I know in racing likes to take weight out but nobody likes putting weight in. Fine with these rules that is easy to do. I guess the big issue is where to put the smallblocks at to where the other guys dont complain. Not that any one here would bitch. I have never put my opinion in yet but here goes . Single turbos and limit size to 90mm , 3300lbs , Prochargers 3250 lbs , Blowers 3200 big or smallblock , Smallblocks 2700 with single carb and cast intake , 2800 if sheetmetal intake or two carbs , and 2850 if more than two kits. The only reason I am suggesting this is because it was as close as it gets to a fair weight break for the small blocks and it was proven in TTT5. This is actually a 100 lbs heavier than TTT5 smallblock rules. Once again it is the only tried and proven set of rules to date that have been used for smallblocks and it is modifieded by a 100 lbs. Yes I know I left out the bbc guys because they have a set weight and they arent really the issue here. I personally think they should be at 3200 lbs. As far as cubic inches heads blocks degrees fuels and all that other crap well that should be determined down the road after a season of races. I will once again agree with something Joe said , this race and these rules are for us, not the guys up north. We aint following nobody on this one , they can follow us. Its about time TEXAS set the bar not somebody else. Good luck on this one Joe and hope to see the rules soon for the upcoming season.
Date Posted:12:18:18 09/30/09 Wed
I think that the blower and n20 combos have a advantage in this class. Reason being, the smaller the tire, the more important it is to control wheel speed. Ever try knocking the wind out of a turbo car? It's not easy. I think the bb n20 are by far at the advantage here. Set some simple rules, run some races and see what happens.
[> [> Subject: SHUT UP CHAD, YOU JUST CANNOT HANG ANYWHERE, SO GO BUY ANOTHER CAR OR BUILD ONE. DO NOT TELL OTHERS HOW TO RACE YOU DUMB ASS
Date Posted:21:01:19 09/30/09 Wed
got a truck in trade with a small block chevy motor. it was running but ruff.then it just wouldn't start. mallory magnetic distributor, took the cap off and the contact in the center of the cap was gone. figured that was it new cap and rotor still wouldn't crank.so i got #1 cyl TDC and the balancer mark dead on both intake and exhaust valves on #1 are closed, pulled the distributor cap and the rotor is on the #6 to fire. the wires were in the correct firing order and the motor was running.?? do i just re stab the distributor and see what happens??
Date Posted:21:19:40 09/30/09 Wed
First check to see if your getting spark.if its not, have your ign. module and coil checked.if both are good take the dist. out and restab it with tdc up if it don't start you have a bad timing chain.
Date Posted:22:33:59 09/30/09 Wed
Your distributor might be 180 degrees out. I've seen a car barely idle and run like crap with the distributor 180 out, don't ask me how it even ran at all, still trying to figure that one out.
Date Posted:08:18:45 10/01/09 Thu
have someone bump it over while you watch the valves. exhaust should open, as it starts to close the intake valve should start opening, watch it open fully and close fully, then with the #1 spark plug out turn the engine in the same direction of rotation until the piston is all the way to the top and you feel it just reverse direction and start going down (just the slightest movement down, not 1/2 inch). The timing make on the crank should be right past TDC and the rotor just has passed the terminal for #1 on the cap. #1 on a sbc chevy is on the drivers side the first cylinder and the exhaust valve is the first one towards the front of the engine. This is the only fool proof way to make sure it is correct every time and you did not miss anything.
Date Posted:15:13:27 10/01/09 Thu
At TDC both valves will be closed. Just leave the distributor in there and bring up compression on #1 and stop at TDC 0 or stop at what you want your initial timing to be such as 12 degrees. Where the rotor is pointing will be #1 and just go with the firing order 18436572. Doesn't matter where you want #1 to be. Two ways to find TDC - putting your finger on #1 and stopping on 0 on balancer when compression blows out or pull the valve cover and stop on 0 TDC when both rocker arms are loose (valves shut).
Date Posted:07:59:58 10/02/09 Fri
the reason I said watching the valves and pulling the spark plug to get the piston up to tdc is your method will work IF the timing marks on the balancer is correct. I have seen many times where the ring has slipped or the timing mark and balancer do not match up because parts have been swapped etc. Small block chevys seem to be the worse for having this problem because they have been around forever and the indicator/ balancer marks have been at different locations for different applications and the sheer amount of aftermarket parts that have been used through the years.
Date Posted:21:15:59 10/01/09 Thu
I MAY BE WRONG .BUT FOR THE PEOPLE CRYING HOW MANY RACERS IN 8.5 PROGRAM HAVE WON ANY OF THE RACES BACK TO BACK . JUST ASKING , THANKS
Date Posted:16:00:38 10/01/09 Thu
what would be faster p/g with 1.76 shifting at 7400 in the 1/8 with 3200 stall 5.67 rear gear weighing 3000 406 with 200 shot or a 350 no brake on either tranny
Date Posted:20:43:18 10/01/09 Thu
If it was my set up i would perfer the glide,people say a three speed is quicker cause it dont fall off as much between gears an has a lower first gear,but with all the gear your running an plus the nitrous on top that want be an issue cause the nitrous will keep the rpms hung up there.I think you may have to much gear,i would say no more than 4.88s would be about right.I run a glide an love it,but for budget racers it is hard to just buy parts like that to just hope it works.good luck
Date Posted:18:15:24 10/01/09 Thu
728" N2O ENGINE
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Date Posted:11:20:56 10/01/09 Thu
NEED A LITTLE HELP LIGNING OUT MY MUSTANG SUSENSION NEED TO KNOW WHAT EVERYONE IS RUNNING IN THE FT AS FAR AS CASTER, CAMBER AND TOE ON A RACE ONLY 93 MUSTANG ALSO WHAT PINION ANGLE ON THE REAR UPR SUSENSION,JEGS TRACTION BARS AND A 28*10.5 TIRE MAKES 600HP + 250 N20 THANKS FOR THE HELP
[> Subject: Well.... this will be a "just in my opinion" deal. Caster should be positive, as much as you can get up to maybe 8 degress but make sure it is the same on both sides. Camber should be zero, and toe at 1/8th in. With the Mustang, you will have some bump steer issues in stock form. This needs to be addressed to make the car more driveable. As to the pinion angle, we have an ongoing argument as to what is best. I say for your application, it will vary depending on what type of bushings you have in your rear bars. Rubber needs more than heims. Urethane needs slightly more than heims. I say rubber needs maybe 5 degrees urethane 4 and heims need 3ish. Again JMO...
Date Posted:11:59:39 10/01/09 Thu
ITS ON HIEM JOINTS
[> [> Subject: One thing to add on bumpsteer. Don't just throw a bumpsteer kit on it and figure its good. You can actually make it worse. It really need to be checked, and it is simple to do.
Date Posted:18:49:24 09/30/09 Wed
I have a 2006 Duramax 4x4 with the allison 6 speed. 78K miles. It started leaking transmission fluid, seemed to be from the front seal. I replaced the seal and bushing and it still leaks. What can it be?
Date Posted:17:43:14 09/29/09 Tue
how much hp does it take to run 5.90 in the 1/8 . i have a 3000 pound back half car & running small block 406 i have 14.1 comp 6 inch rods alum pontiac heads victor jr tall 880 pro system carb product engineering fuel system cam is a.630. 630 dur .276 .284 msd everything spraying now 200 big shot plate 350 tans no brake 3200 stall 5.67 gear 31 x 14 best time now is a 6.31 on spray 1.31 60 ft shifting at 7400 crossing at 6800 motor only has 6 passes on it can anybody tell me what i should do are do different
Date Posted:19:11:47 09/29/09 Tue
750-800 hp. What do your heads flow? Sounds like you need more stall and lower shift points. I think you can run 6.30-6.40 on motor if you get the cam/gear/stall right for your combo (unless the heads dont flow much).
Date Posted:17:17:51 10/01/09 Thu
YOU CAN EASILY GET AWAY WITH 4.56'S OR POSSIBLY EVEN 4.11'S, CALL UP SOMEBODY LIKE COAN OR PTC AND HAVE THEM BUILD YOU A CONVERTER (I KNOW IT MAY SEEM EXPENSIVE BUT YOU'LL BE GLAD YOU DID). CHECK FUEL PRESSURES AND JETS MAKE SURE THAT YOUR NOT TOO FAT. THE COMBO SOUNDS LIKE IT GO HIGH .70S, BUT MAKE SURE THE SUSPENSION AND CHASSIS IS SET UP AND CHECK FOR WHEEL SPIN.
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