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Florida Pageant Blue Board

Unofficial Miss Florida USA & Miss Florida Teen USA Discussion Board

*Jenna Edwards, Miss Florida USA 2007*

*Jennifer Wooten, Miss Florida Teen USA 2006*

Welcome to the New Florida Blue Board! This board was started to be another place Florida pageant fans can come and talk about the growing Florida USA system. This board, nor its moderator, is not affiliated in any way with Tel Air, or any of its preliminary pageants. Constructive criticism will be allowed, but will be deleted at the Moderator's discretion when it is done in a way in which to bash ANY contestant or director! Keep it Clean and Fun! Welcome and Enjoy!! NO BANNERS OR ADS!!

Subject: Melissa's send off pictures
Author: . [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:25:59 03/17/05 Thu
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Is Lau Ren Merola competing? I personally would love to see her come back. (NT) -- also very cute teens, 20:00:20 03/17/05 Thu Re: Lau Ren Meruld YES SHE IS COMING BACK:) (NT) -- :), 22:55:38 03/17/05 Thu Wow! That is awesome!! What prelim is she doing? Definate contender for the crown in my book! (NT) -- Great news!, 23:19:08 03/17/05 Thu Kristen is beautiful, but I really liked her hair better blonde! (NT) -- a fan, 09:46:49 03/18/05 Fri

Subject: Orlando/Winter Park/City Beautiful/Central Florida
Author: wondering [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:26:22 03/17/05 Thu Does anyone know who is competing for these titles this weekend and if they are definately giving out FOUR titles?

Subject: My picks for Emerald Coast this weekend
Author: cac [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:24:26 03/17/05 Thu Based soley on the pictures posted so far: Miss- Cristen Duren Teen - Sally Wusstig

Subject: GOODBYE OLD MESSAGEBOARD...HELLO THIS ONE?????
Author: Melissa & Victoria ROCK! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:24:33 01/27/05 Thu I am more than a little upset at the severe moderation on the other FL messageboard. I do not understand why different (NON BASHING) opinions cannot be freely and nicely given. I'd love to have a place to visit and chat about our pageants, but see that many of these posts are old and am wondering if this board is still active. Certainly there are MANY others that must be as frustrated as I am, so why not move to this or another board? Can we liven this place up a little, or do we have the same problem here?
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I just think that not as many people know about this board. Also I think the moderators of the other board post things to keep it alive. (NT) -- Maybe.....if we post, they will come! LOL, 23:08:07 01/27/05 Thu Everyone needs to spread the word about this board and start posting here. It takes regular posters, not just readers to make a board worthwhile! Besides, Florida is pageant crazy enough to have more than just one board! (NT) -- Let's spread the word!, 16:30:45 03/10/05 Thu

Subject: Info?

Author:
Laura Grant
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Date Posted: 08:26:29 02/28/05 Mon

Hello, my name is Laura Grant and have a website where
I interview pageant winners (the link is below, if you
want to check it out)
I was wondering if anyone here knows where I can reach
any Miss USA 2005 Contestants by email?
Any and all information would be greatly appreciated!!
Thank you!

=====
-Laura Grant
missusa_america_teenusamanager@yahoo.com
http://groups.msn.com/MissUSA-America-TeenUSAPageants/
http://www.missusaamericateenusainterviews.builtfree.org/

Subject: Miss Naples USA, Miss Naples Teen USA and Miss Port Chorlotte USA~ M Production "Click in"

Author:
Katy & Marianne
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Date Posted: 16:06:49 02/23/05 Wed

It's official, the Radisson Suite Beach Resort will be the host Hotel for the Miss Port Charlotte USA, Miss Naples USA and Miss Naples Teen USA held on May 14&15.
It is our hope to add Miss Marco Island USA and Miss Marco Teen USA as we look for sponsors.
You can get your application on our website: http://www.mproduction.us/ or e-mail Moden41@aol.com. For more information call 941-350-2811.
Visit our Hotel for your virtual tour right on beautiful Marco Island beach!
http://www.marcobeachresort.com/
We will take 14 Teens and 26 Miss contestants.
Get your application in now
4912 Hidden Oaks Trail
Sarasota, Fl 34232

Subject: M Production queens Megan and Stephanie ride in the Florida Citrus Festival Parade! Story at http://mproduction.us/February%202005%20parade.html
Author: MProduction.us [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:11:11 02/09/05 Wed

Subject: www.kendrawaller.com now has a list of all preliminary title holders in FL (both MAO and USA)
Author: www.kendrawaller.com [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:28:08 02/09/05 Wed Great site for Kendra. She is now Miss Teen Daytona Beach and will compete in the FL MAO teen pageant in April. Very useful site for Links and other title holders!
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Good luck Kendra!!! My daughter and I met you at state and think you are so sweet!! (NT) -- Glad to see you still in pageants!, 22:03:26 02/09/05 Wed

Subject: M Production queens help out The Great Outdoors Conservancy!

Author:
MProduction.us
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Date Posted: 18:13:05 02/07/05 Mon

The M Production Team was once again on hand to help out The Great Outdoors Conservancy (www.tgoc.org) at their Amateur Sporting Clays Classic at Knights Trail Park in Nokomis, Florida. The call time was bright and early as the event began at 7:30 am and the girls were there early to help get ready!

You can see more pics and the entire write up at
http://mproduction.us/February%205%202005.html

Subject: The new Miss Florida USA ezine is up! Great pix of Lia on cover!
Author: latest news on Emerald Coast, Naples, Gainesville, & Palm Beach USA Pageants [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:10:22 01/27/05 Thu Best way to keep up with all the information on state pageants.

Subject: I noticed in the teen program book that Alyssa S thanked her "coach" Judith Coffman. Did Judith coach any other teens this year??
Author: Also, what does everyone think of her coaching abilities? [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:09:22 11/03/04 Wed
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The other board keeps talking about Sara Long and her coach. (NT) -- Does anyone know who she used?, 21:17:37 11/03/04 Wed Re: I noticed in the teen program book that Alyssa S thanked her "coach" Judith Coffman. Did Judith coach any other teens this year?? (NT) -- bump, 12:04:19 01/24/05 Mon I heard Savannah Stevens also worked with Judith. (NT) -- Is she the one who told her to wear jeans in interview???, 12:06:12 01/24/05 Mon

Subject: Way to go M Productions queens for helping to raise over $40,000 for Florida land preservation this past weekend!
Author: M Productions [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:40:02 01/23/05 Sun
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(NT) -- Awwwwww, too cute!, 23:27:44 01/23/05 Sun

Subject: Merry Christmas to all of our friends, family & delegates!
Author: [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 09:20:36 12/25/04 Sat

Subject: New website for M Productions at Mproduction.us
Author: M Productions [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:10:34 12/20/04 Mon Includes pages for Sarasota, Sarasota Teen, Fort Myers, Fort Myers Teen, Manatee County, Manatee County Teen, West Coast, and West Coast Teen USA titleholders! Mproduction.us
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New pictures up at mproduction.us including this gorgeous one of the new Miss Sarasota USA Genevieve Jahn! (NT) -- , 17:59:11 12/21/04 Tue

Subject: RESULTS FROM SARASOTA... 4 NEW QUEENS FOR USA AND TEEN USA...
Author: nice and beautiful queens.... click in ... [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01:21:19 12/12/04 Sun This just in: Miss Sarasota USA is : Genevieve Jahn Miss Sarasota Teen USA is: Sarah Long Miss Manatee County USA is : Megan Ortegus Miss Manatee County Teen USA is: Megan Polly Miss West Coast USA is: Sheena Monin Miss West Coast Teen USA is : Stephanie Camp and finally... Miss Ft. Myers USA is : Ashley Avis Miss Ft. Myers Teen USA is : Heather Mowry Congrats to all our new queens!!! Have a fun year.
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who else was there? (NT) -- runners up?, 09:27:43 12/12/04 Sun Why hasn;t anyone filled in the blanks here? Were these the only ones who showed up? Did they win because there was nobody else? If not, who were the runner up? (NT) -- looking for info, 07:22:23 12/15/04 Wed

Subject: The other Florida board is a joke...no opinions can be expressed
Author: unless the moderator 100% agrees. [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:06:49 12/13/04 Mon
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And I would be careful what you post there! I have heard the moderator is someone close to Tel Air... (NT) -- and reports to them on a regular basis...., 17:12:25 12/13/04 Mon Re: The other Florida board is a joke...no opinions can be expressed (NT) -- I agree it is a joke. I bet 80% of the posts are the moderators to hype the system and keep that board active, 20:05:01 12/13/04 Mon I don't consider it a joke. It is helpful to keep up on the goings ons in the system, but I do agree that it is owned and moderated by certain directors which slightly inhibits the anonymous posting. (NT) -- I am very careful what I put on there because of that!, 22:33:13 12/13/04 Mon Re: The other Florida board is a joke...no opinions can be expressed (NT) -- Alot of posts removed aren't even bashing. Such as if someone ranks one contestant different than they think it should be they remove it., 05:57:18 12/14/04 Tue Re: The other Florida board is a joke...no opinions can be expressed (NT) -- I think the poster was saying it is a joke because most of the posts are made by the same person., 05:57:57 12/14/04 Tue

Subject: UPCOMING LOCALS
Author: unavailable [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:50:57 12/07/04 Tue DECEMBER'S LOCAL TITLES Miss West Coast Miss Sarasota Miss Manatee County JANUARY'S LOCAL TITLES Miss Polk County Miss South Florida What are the projections for these pageants? Will there be alot of contestants? Are the directors prepared? Any fresh faces? Any chance at these for a surprise or will these be easy wins for returnees?
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Don't know the South Florida directors, but West Coast/Ft Myers/Sarasota/Manatee Co and Polk Co are both run by experienced directors. They will be prepared and I expect strong recruitment of returnees as well as fresh faces. These women all know what to look for and how to prepare a winner! (NT) -- Good luck to all!!, 17:11:47 12/07/04 Tue Re: Don't know the South Florida directors, but West Coast/Ft Myers/Sarasota/Manatee Co and Polk Co are both run by experienced directors. They will be prepared and I expect strong recruitment of returnees as well as fresh faces. These women all know what to look for and how to prepare a winner! (NT) -- Ahhh thanks for the advertisement., 18:28:28 12/07/04 Tue Sorry, but I am not either of these directors, just someone who has been around pageants enough to know these women and know what they are capable of! I am in no way saying that there will not be others who will be as well prepared. There are many many great directors coming into this system. I predict that this year's state competitions will be the most competitive ever! (NT) -- florida pageant observer, 11:14:45 12/08/04 Wed

Subject: Announcing Three New Prelim Pageants!
Author: Miss Space Coast USA/Miss Treasure Coast USA/Miss Homestead & Florida Keys USA [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:43:48 12/02/04 Thu Announcing Three New Prelim Pageants! The Miss Florida USA Pageant is proud to announce the forming of three new preliminary pageants that will now guarantee a pageant within reach of all Florida residents! Miss Treasure Coast USA & Miss Treasure Coast Teen USA 2006 Under the direction of Halavin Productions we are glad to offer a pageant opportunity for those in and around St. Lucie, Vero Beach and Fort Pierce! This will be the first time a Miss USA presence will be felt in this fast growing region. For more information call Angie or Mandi Halavin at 954 445-8181 or email MissTreasureCoastUSA@Yahoo.com for more information. Miss Homestead/Florida Keys USA & Miss Homestead/Florida Keys Teen USA 2006 Once again under the direction of Halavin Productions we are glad to offer a pageant opportunity for those in the southern most part of our state! For more information call Angie or Mandi Halavin at 954 445-8181 or email misspembrokepinesteenusa@yahoo.com (until they have secured a different email) for more information. Miss Space Coast USA and Miss Space Coast Teen USA 2006 Put on your calendar May 1, 2005 for the first ever Miss Space Coast USA and Miss Space Coast Teen USA Pageants in Downtown Melbourne at the historic Henegar Center for The Arts (www.henegar.org) This pageant is open to all of those in Brevard, Osceola, St. Lucie, Indian River, Okeechobee & Martin Counties. This will be the first ever presence of Miss USA on one of the fastest growing regions in Florida. For more information call pageant director Rachel Uziel at (954) 924-4949 or visit the new list at the preliminary page of www.MissFloridaUSA.com.
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Re: Announcing Three New Prelim Pageants! (NT) -- The space coast is Brevard County....and Melbourne is in Brevard County so not the first., 19:35:42 12/02/04 Thu

Subject: WORKSHOP
Author: Katy & Marianne [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:28:38 11/18/04 Thu The Miss Sarasota USA, Ft. Myers USA and Miss West Coast USA Miss & Teen divisions will be holding a workshop for all contestants wanting to learning more in all areas of Stage-Presents, Interview, Hair and Make-up tips and Fitness tip from our Official Trainer Yvette Beroski. We will be meeting at Southside Gym 935 N Beneva Rd #941-953-5250 I-75 exit on Fruitville Road, head west to Beneva Road take a right. Look for Sarasota Commons Shopping Plaza on the right Southside is at the end. They have a huge room with wood floors and mirror all over the place just for beauty queens like us:) We are still taking applications at this time. If you would like to participate in this incredible opportunity please come and join us we will have applications on hand. For any questions please feel free to e-mail us at Moden41@aol.com It is not mandatory that contestants participate in the workshop.
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Re: WORKSHOP -- Katy & Marianne, 17:32:02 11/18/04 Thu

Subject: Kelly Gaudet's failure to win the FL USA crown brings up an interesting question....Has there ever been a Miss Florida Teen USA go on to win the Miss Florida USA crown?? If so, who? If not, who has competed and how high have they placed??
Author: FLPageantFan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:51:06 10/23/04 Sat
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No FLTUSA has ever won Miss Florida USA! Michelle Benitez was top 15 so was Corina Clark. Tommie Albright competed in a prelim but didn't win. Cristen Duren competes in Alabama USA soon! (NT) -- These are all I know of., 23:55:14 10/23/04 Sat (NT) -- Cristen Duren, Miss Florida Teen USA 1997, won the Photogenic Award at Miss Teen USA, 00:06:38 10/24/04 Sun (NT) -- Cristen competed for Alabama USA and placed 2nd Runner Up! Loved her gown!, 18:37:50 10/27/04 Wed Cristen looks great! She should do a panhandle pageant ASAP and be in state next year. -- Loved this girl as teen, beat a really good group including Nadja Bjorland. Wasnt she top 15 very young at FLUSA?, 22:01:24 10/27/04 Wed Someone wrote on a board somewhere that you can only do a prelim in one state per year....is this true? (NT) -- anyone know?, 22:39:48 10/27/04 Wed Re: Someone wrote on a board somewhere that you can only do a prelim in one state per year....is this true? (NT) -- bump, 10:50:49 10/28/04 Thu If someone competed in a state pageant this year they could still compete in a FL Prelim -- State titles now are for 2005 (competing against Melissa & Victoria) while this seasons prelims are for 2006 FL USA (Crowned by Melissa) & FL TN USA (Crowned by Victoria), 22:21:35 10/28/04 Thu Ok, that makes sense then. (NT) -- Thanks!, 06:17:39 10/29/04 Fri Kelly was also a former Miss Florida America...other than Kristen Ludeke, who else has crossed over and won both? (NT) -- another question, 23:59:35 10/23/04 Sat (NT) -- Kristen Ludecke, Miss Florida USA 2000 and Style Award winner at Miss USA, 00:12:45 10/24/04 Sun She's the daughter of Cheryl Johnson Ludecke, who was Miss Florida USA 1970 and a top 10 finalist at Miss USA. (NT) -- An interesting piece of trivia about Kristen!!!, 00:22:08 10/24/04 Sun I would LOVE to see a picture of her mom as Miss Florida! (NT) -- anyone have one???, 00:28:30 10/24/04 Sun Monica Farrell -- Cross Over, 21:52:27 11/12/04 Fri Re: Monica Farrell (NT) -- , 23:49:00 11/12/04 Fri

Subject: Miss Sarasota USA, Miss West Coast USA and Miss Ft. Myers Teen & Miss will all be crowned December 11th...please read
Author: Marianne Oden [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:27:29 11/09/04 Tue We have added the Ft. Myers title to our December 11th date to allow Katy more time to focus on her big wedding day:) We will only take 20 Miss contestants & 20 Teen contestants! Sounds crazy, but this is our plan. We wanted to give six young woman the training and opportunity to compete at a the best pageant system "Florida USA"!!! Our staff will have a workshop November 20th at Southside Gym in Sarasota. For information please e-mail me. If you mail in your application and entry fee and win another title before our pageant, we will refund your money. GOOD LUCK to all the contestants!!!!
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Cool! 3 titles for 20 girls, that's about a one in seven chance of getting my way paid to state! (NT) -- I'm all over that!, 20:55:57 11/09/04 Tue Re: Miss Sarasota USA, Miss West Coast USA and Miss Ft. Myers Teen & Miss will all be crowned December 11th...please read (NT) -- Neat let us all hope there are no major glitches this year., 21:38:50 11/09/04 Tue Re: Miss Sarasota USA, Miss West Coast USA and Miss Ft. Myers Teen & Miss will all be crowned December 11th...please read (NT) -- Thank you Marianne & Katy! Amazing Amazing Amazing, 22:37:04 11/09/04 Tue Re: I went to a national pageant that was not even close to the production leveel and the warm hearts that Katy and mariane have. Whoever you are that has a problem...take a hike to a nasty board that welcomes you bad energy. (NT) -- done, 22:42:23 11/09/04 Tue Re: I went to a national pageant that was not even close to the production leveel and the warm hearts that Katy and mariane have. Whoever you are that has a problem...take a hike to a nasty board that welcomes you bad energy. (NT) -- I don't see a nasty post??? confused, 06:01:08 11/10/04 Wed Has anyone heard who is competing in this pageant, teen or miss???? (NT) -- curious, 10:58:55 11/10/04 Wed Re: Has anyone heard who is competing in this pageant, teen or miss???? (NT) -- The director posted this so she could tell you if she wants it out., 14:03:42 11/10/04 Wed So without asking the director, has anyone heard who is competing??? (NT) -- just wondering, 17:44:57 11/10/04 Wed Re: I asked her and she said so far new girls that she has found. (NT) -- Kimmy, 23:12:14 11/10/04 Wed Re: I asked her and she said so far new girls that she has found. (NT) -- That is a great response it will get experienced girls there. Why no returnees from her past pageants?, 06:06:14 11/11/04 Thu What about Heather Mowry? (NT) -- Doesn't she live in Ft. Myers?, 13:08:02 11/11/04 Thu She lives in Ft. Myers and she told me she wanted a local title so I would bet she would be there. (NT) -- a friend, 11:29:59 11/12/04 Fri

Subject: Who Won tonight??????????????
Author: ? [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:24:13 11/06/04 Sat
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Re: Who Won tonight?????????????? -- smm, 00:15:42 11/08/04 Mon Alyx Reynolds in Teen, Kim Anderson in Miss (NT) -- this is what is being reported, 00:34:20 11/08/04 Mon No big surprise in teen, but who is the Miss??? (NT) -- does anyone know or have a picture?, 12:21:16 11/08/04 Mon

Subject: Dresses for Sale on ebay
Author: click in for numbers [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 00:14:07 10/31/04 Sun http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5335489370&ssPageName=ADME:B:LC:US:1 yellow dress 5335496076 Teal dress 5335497339 Floral dress 5335486592 watermelon 5335491330 orange 5335493564 Auqa or see Sellers Other Items
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Re: Dresses for Sale on ebay (NT) -- Watermelon dress won 2 locals last year-1 in USA and 1 in MAO. Yellow dress is hottest dress of the season., 08:13:43 11/03/04 Wed Bidding ends today. (NT) -- Several great prelims dresses available, 08:09:13 11/06/04 Sat

Subject: New This Week at Miss Florida USA The Magazine!

Author:
only at www.missfloridausa.com & www.missfloridateenusa.com
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Date Posted: 15:23:44 11/05/04 Fri

New This Week at Miss Florida USA The Magazine!
November 5, 2004

It�s Friday so it must be time for a new edition of YOUR Miss Florida USA Magazine only at www.MissFloridaUSA.com & www.MissFloridaTeenUSA.com!
This week we feature in depth reports on The Miss Panhandle Pageants in Chipley, complete with new pictures & articles!

On our Faces & Places segment we feature a wedding between a rocker & a former Miss USA! Our Palm Beach contestants go to the dogs (races that is!) while several of our Miss Florida USA alumni are all over the sports arena in South Florida.

Our Road to Miss USA article features a delegate who looks good in heals and army boots! Also the latest on the preliminary pageant system in The Sunshine State as every weekend features a new pageant. All of this from YOUR Miss Florida USA writers, photographers and staff, ENJOY!

Subject: Bios are up on www.MissFloridaTeenUSA.com!
Author: check it out! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:11:43 11/03/04 Wed Updated bios with pictures of the girls in interview, swimsuit, and gowns are up for each individual girl now! Thanks Tel Air!
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Please post the link for this info! (NT) -- fan, 15:33:50 11/04/04 Thu Re: Please post the link for this info! (NT) -- Go to Florida Teen USA website, click on "All about Miss Florida Teen 2005" and follow the links there!, 15:03:26 11/05/04 Fri

Subject: Would You Quit Bashing The Prelim Directors - Its hard enough to have quality pageants without a headache on the boards
Author: Sorry you have a beef - but what pageant doesn't end with someone unhappy? [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:23:53 11/05/04 Fri OK we get the point, youre unhappy about something, thats a part of the game. every director in every state has somebody just like you (if not more) - sorry you (or your daughter/client) didnt do better, maybe it wasnt your night. thats a part of the game. now leave the bashing alone or we will look like MAO - and you know how many directors have quit that system over the years
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Re: Would You Quit Bashing The Prelim Directors - Its hard enough to have quality pageants without a headache on the boards (NT) -- I think it is more than one person who is trying to warn people about ONE set of directors., 13:31:13 11/05/04 Fri

Subject: Congratulations Teen Top 5!!!
Author: fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:53:34 10/14/04 Thu You girls worked very hard and should be proud!!
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Re: Congratulations Teen Top 5!!! (NT) -- who's coming back in this group???, 16:59:34 10/14/04 Thu I think everyone but Heather aged out... (NT) -- :-), 17:00:50 10/14/04 Thu Is Heather coming back? If so, what prelim is she doing? (NT) -- ?, 08:57:56 10/15/04 Fri A little birdie told me that Heather is focusing on family & friends, the holidays, her special olympics cheer squad, school and the SAT right now! (NT) -- She will be back to pageants after the first of the year!, 09:31:41 11/01/04 Mon Congratulations also to ALL the girls!!! It was a tough year and I am sure the scores were very very close in all areas! (NT) -- Yeah Florida girls!!!, 17:03:14 10/14/04 Thu Re: Congratulations Teen Top 5!!!, but What the hell happened to Brenda! (NT) -- I would like to know????, 23:08:50 10/14/04 Thu Brenda's gown was gorgeous! Very pretty girl!! Tough year! (NT) -- :-), 23:23:02 10/14/04 Thu Re: Brenda's gown was gorgeous! Very pretty girl!! Tough year! (NT) -- I thought she could use some toning for the SS competition., 23:31:43 10/14/04 Thu I disagree. I don't think she needed toned. She didn't have any jiggle going on like some girls, but she could work to get a leaner look. The lights on that stage are very unforgiving and add weight to a figure! (NT) -- :-), 23:47:55 10/14/04 Thu Ok, not getting specific, because that would be bashing, but I was AMAZED at how many girls showed up with jiggly thighs and back sides. Some of them even ranked pretty high! (NT) -- did you notice??, 09:06:40 10/15/04 Fri My son did! (NT) -- LOL, 09:30:54 10/15/04 Fri Re: Congratulations Teen Top 5!!! -- smm, 17:22:39 10/16/04 Sat sarah long -- smm, 17:34:19 10/16/04 Sat

Subject: ANNOUNCING THE 2005 SOUTHEAST PAGEANT, MODELING, ACTING AND TALENT EXPO!!!
Author: FYI [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 00:10:08 10/31/04 Sun The 2005 Southeast Pageant, Modeling, Acting and Talent Expo will be held in Pelham, Alabama on Saturday, January 22nd, 2005!!! The Expo will bring together Titleholders, Vendors and Professionals in the Pageant, Modeling, Acting and Talent fields from throughout the US! For more information, call 1-888-528-4530 or e-mail SEPEXPO_2005@yahoo.com !

Subject: New at www.MissFloridaUSA.com & www.MissFloridaTeenUSA.com is THE MISS FLORIDA USA MAGAZINE - a weekly magazing dedicated to our favorite pageants
Author: Features, Columns, Pictures, Miss USA & Teen USA results, Preliminary results and recaps, Plus the new Faces & Places Column for news, alumni reports and other pageant goodies! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:13:22 10/29/04 Fri Announcing THE MISS FLORIDA USA MAGAZINE - A weekly magazine style publication on the internet! We heard what you wanted and that was more content! So we are starting up the first state pageant magazine dedicated to our favorite pageant system, Miss USA and Miss Teen USA. There is such a demand for more news as our website has been seeing more then 1,500 visitors a day from 90 countries the past few months. The site is also interactive, so PLEASE HELP US LOCATE OUR ALUMNI! We want to feature them in future Faces & Places column. This is our new - about town, on the circuit and where are they now column only at www.MissFloridaUSA.com & www.MissFloridaTeenUSA.com. So heres to a great pageant season here in Florida!
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I like this idea! Especially learning Miss Florida USA and Florida Teen USA Pageant history. (NT) -- I am interested.., 00:12:11 10/30/04 Sat

Subject: Maybe this will help explain things, it's an update on the daytona teen site
Author: daytona fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01:09:56 10/28/04 Thu Just to Clarify Statement In the second to last paragraph of the below statement I wrote that I really hope that people take the time to read what we were saying in order to understand where we are coming from. Well obviously with all of the (yet again) negative responses we are getting, we didn't explain ourselves to the best of our ability. Instead of spelling everything out there was a little room for interpretation. So, I would like to explain exactly what we meant in paragraph 10 of the below statement regarding the Top 15 and also paragraph 17 and the fun level. I never said the pageant wasn't fun! Quite the contrary. The pageant is set up to be a fun, amazing experience; Tel-Air runs it that way. They make all of their contestants feel like stars and trust me I know that first hand! We model (and have always modeled) our pageant directly off of what I've learned as a contestant in THEIR pageants. What I did notice this year is that a lot of the girls (again compared to when I competed) where so focused on the things you can't control (like other contestants) they didn't enjoy their time at the pageant as much as they could or should have. Angela and I feel that this is because the preliminary system is promoting (via gossip and message boards) heightened levels of anticipation and expectation, causing some tension within the pageant. Obviously those who are truly prepared for the pageant probably wouldn't even notice. The Top 15...Judges will typically gravitate to the person they feel the most comfortable with. The teen top 15 was a little off, I'm sorry but I don't know what those judges were thinking with SOME of their choices. Personally there were 4 contestants in particular in the top 15 that blew me away, I think they did an amazing job and hands down deserved to be there. Nakia, who did make the semi-finals, is an amazing young women who I think will go very far in the Miss division. She is a great titleholder and I truly adore her but truth be told she was reluctant to embrace what we teach; she went off of her past pageant coaching rather than our pageant coaching. So, our statement was more directed toward her placement in comparison with our other girls placement. Obviously we wanted to avoid posting that in a statement about our own titleholder and tried to leave the reference vague. So again, to clarify, the judges were looking for something we do not and will not teach because what we teach didn't make the Top 15!. For Nakia to make the 15 and not Tiffany, Heather or Kendra (who is the poster child for what we teach) made us question WHAT WE TEACH versus what the judges are looking for. This is in no way meant to be an insult to Nakia, Victoria, or any of the other contestants. I hope that this will help to clear some things up. Again if you have questions regarding anything we've posted please e-mail us at info@missdaytonabeachteen.com
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Re: Maybe this will help explain things, it's an update on the daytona teen site (NT) -- I still take from your posts that you felt Kendra should have done the best of your contestants. I am glad you aren't my director, 06:45:02 10/28/04 Thu you guys are unreal. i'm starting to see what they mean about bashing these directors. they don't favor kendra, they are saying that she is a perfect example of what they teach to the girls they coach. i think they favored kendra compared to heather and tiffany (who they were coaching out of the goodness of their hearts). i would expect them to favor nakia and kendra as their title holders. (NT) -- wish they were my directors, 09:15:51 10/28/04 Thu Thanks for the clarification. Not everyone is going to agree with the judges interpretation, and I am sure the judges didn't even agree with EACH OTHER. That is pageantry and I think we know that and they know that. I still think these directors are good people who provide a tremdous service to their communit. and their hearts are in the right places. I wish them well and hope that they find a better fit with whatever system they end up in. And I personally would love to have any director who is so passionate about what is important to them. (NT) -- Everyone needs to just back off! :-), 09:34:26 10/28/04 Thu This is true about the judges not even agreeing with each other. Know for a fact that one judge was overheard telling Victoria that she was his pick and another was overheard telling a different girl that she was her pick! (NT) -- So I guess that is the point of a panel...to blend different opinions together, 12:58:35 10/28/04 Thu Re: Maybe this will help explain things, it's an update on the daytona teen site (NT) -- If you choose to coach contestants then you cannot favor one over another or you are not doing the best for any of them., 12:33:18 10/28/04 Thu They weren't favoring one contestant over the others. I don't know where you are getting that. (NT) -- and coaching girls for free who aren't their titleholders, why would anyone criticize that, 13:45:40 10/28/04 Thu Re: They weren't favoring one contestant over the others. I don't know where you are getting that. (NT) -- Read both their posts and yes they are., 17:29:11 10/28/04 Thu

Subject: Daytona and Volusia Teen has left the system!
Author: Now only Daytona Beach USA is in the sytem. Bad news, no Melbourne USA. [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:59:44 10/26/04 Tue Anyone know what happened as Angela & Kim were contestant directors at state last year.
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Re: Daytona and Volusia Teen has left the system! (NT) -- I don't believe this. These directors love the system way to much to throw in their hat., 22:03:52 10/26/04 Tue These women run a great pageant! They are supportive of their queens and promote not only their queens, but the system and pageantry in general. Are they perfect? No. But there is not a director out there that is. There were serious grumblings heard even after the state pageant (which by the way, I thought was awesome) and some of the grumblings overheard were even by preliminary directors. This is normal. One girl is crowned, five place, and 15 make finals. Everyone else is probably going to feel down. If these women have left the system, I would imagine they are tired of the constant bashing they receive by certain people on this board (and I would go so far to say that it is all being done by the same one or two people acting like they are several different people) (NT) -- I hope this information is not true :-(, 22:25:32 10/26/04 Tue Evidently they read the message board, found this on their site just now -- They address every issue brought up this year that I know of. It is long so click in to read, 02:16:57 10/27/04 Wed Re: Evidently they read the message board, found this on their site just now (NT) -- I don't get the attitude about the Daytona title...they said they didn't want to be official...therefore they didn't have a right to the Miss Daytona Teen USA title., 06:31:38 10/27/04 Wed Re: Evidently they read the message board, found this on their site just now (NT) -- The only people this hurt were Kendra and Savannah., 08:33:07 10/27/04 Wed Did you not read the post properly? She said that they did want to be official but at that time they were told that you had to have a pageant by January 1st. Hello, she was in the United States Army stationed in Germany, it's not like she was on vacation and couldn't make it. She said they wouldn't be able to be official according to the Miss Florida Teen USA RULES but they were looking forward to being official when they could make the time constraint. (NT) -- Good for them for having the courage to go ahead with it, they did try to get hold of the director. I don't think it hurt Savannah or Kendra, 09:07:43 10/27/04 Wed Re: Did you not read the post properly? She said that they did want to be official but at that time they were told that you had to have a pageant by January 1st. Hello, she was in the United States Army stationed in Germany, it's not like she was on vacation and couldn't make it. She said they wouldn't be able to be official according to the Miss Florida Teen USA RULES but they were looking forward to being official when they could make the time constraint. (NT) -- One simply solution-One Miss Daytona and One Miss Daytona Beach-why was this not organzied or arranged? This is all petty., 10:35:13 10/27/04 Wed Re: Did you not read the post properly? She said that they did want to be official but at that time they were told that you had to have a pageant by January 1st. Hello, she was in the United States Army stationed in Germany, it's not like she was on vacation and couldn't make it. She said they wouldn't be able to be official according to the Miss Florida Teen USA RULES but they were looking forward to being official when they could make the time constraint. (NT) -- Regardless the official preliminary title is the only one that matters. It is official period. These directors shouldn't have tried to contact anyone and get them to change theirs they made the active decision not to be official....one of the directors was here and could have began to make plans., 14:34:21 10/27/04 Wed They didn't make the active decision to be unofficial, they felt they had no choice because of the time. Also, Angela was still in school at UF in Gainesville. FYI Angela had never directed a pageant the Daytona pageant was her first, I don't blame her for wanting to wait until Kim got home. I know of a couple directors who were angry about how the time rule went down. They were told they had to hold their pageant by Jan 1, then there started to be exceptions to that rule. Miss Daytona Beach USA/Teen USA was one of those exceptions. I think the blame is on the state office for telling Kim and Angela one thing and letting someone else do another. One positive about the unofficial pageants is that it created a lot of other unofficial pageants like FL Panhandle, and Michael's super pageant. It also opened up the idea that the pageant season should extend past Jan 1. (NT) -- close friend of Daytona directors, 09:30:03 10/28/04 Thu Re: They didn't make the active decision to be unofficial, they felt they had no choice because of the time. Also, Angela was still in school at UF in Gainesville. FYI Angela had never directed a pageant the Daytona pageant was her first, I don't blame her for wanting to wait until Kim got home. I know of a couple directors who were angry about how the time rule went down. They were told they had to hold their pageant by Jan 1, then there started to be exceptions to that rule. Miss Daytona Beach USA/Teen USA was one of those exceptions. I think the blame is on the state office for telling Kim and Angela one thing and letting someone else do another. One positive about the unofficial pageants is that it created a lot of other unofficial pageants like FL Panhandle, and Michael's super pageant. It also opened up the idea that the pageant season should extend past Jan 1. (NT) -- They were never told they could be an official pageant by their own admittance so Tel Air could allow anyone to have the Daytona Teen USA title because theirs wasn't an official Teen USA preliminary.....jeez stop posting Daytona UNOFFICIAL directors., 12:34:53 10/28/04 Thu

Subject: A reminder from the Moderator!
Author: Moderator [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:45:47 10/14/04 Thu I will leave up constructive criticism, but will remove anything that I consider bashing!!! Be very careful how you word your posts please! Please think of these girls as your own and how you would want someone to address them! Thanks and happy posting!!
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Ok, I am bumping this to the top because some of the latest posts are getting mean and bordering on bashing. One reason I founded this board was for people to have a place to freely speak their minds and debate subjects concerning the pageant without fear of reprecussions. BUT please, please, please watch how you word things. It is possible to give your opinion of something without tearing someone else down. Thank you and happy posting! (NT) -- Moderator, 15:22:18 10/27/04 Wed

Subject: Angela & Kim, You will be missed. It is sad when anyone chooses to leave the system...for everyone. You guys are great and so are your queens. But I would also like to add that although, I can understand your reasons for leaving, I do have to disagree with you about something. My daughter was a contestant in the state pageant and she had fun! In fact, she was surprised at how much fun she had. She did not think it would be as much fun as it was. And she told me this on the phone before finals nite, so it had nothing to do with where she did or did not place in the pageant. However, she did make the finals and she was very natural and very much herself! So I really don't understand that part of what you wrote. But I do wish you well and hope to see you and your queens back at state!
Author: Good luck to you both! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:51:32 10/27/04 Wed
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Sorry, meant to post this under the other subject.... (NT) -- oops!, 08:55:43 10/27/04 Wed I don't think people are reading this message properly. Here is the quote about fun "It is so competitive now, there is so much tension and pressure, the girls are so focused on winning that I think some of them are forgetting to just have fun and enjoy the experience". Notice the word some instead of all. In terms of the natural thing I kind of agree. There were a lot of pageant patty's in the semi's (NT) -- daytona fan, 09:13:39 10/27/04 Wed I don't think you are reading the respone properly. The person was supportive, just didn't agree with the implications that the pageant was so competitive that it was hard to have fun and that the finals were made up of girls who were not prepared to be "natural". I read it the same way and I also disagree. It is possible to have fun and to make the top 15 by being natural and yourself. (NT) -- sorry, 09:43:22 10/27/04 Wed Where in that quote did it say that it was "hard to have fun"? I think you guys really do not understand what is being said, she never said it wasn't fun. She never said that the top 15 wasn't natural. I think you are just reading pieces of the sentence and concentrating on one or two words instead of reading them in context. (NT) -- daytona fan again, 11:21:39 10/27/04 Wed "No, the lack of placement at state just made us realize that we really don�t belong. We firmly believe in preparing our girls a certain way. We stress being natural, being 100% comfortable with who you are, open & outward, etc. Some of our girls pick it up easier than others. Some girls ignore it all together. The Top 15 confirmed what we were already suspicious of; the state pageant is looking for something that we will never teach." (NT) -- I don't know how else you would read that!, 11:47:35 10/27/04 Wed "We all understood that it was a competition but the fun is what kept us coming back. After helping out with the Miss pageant last summer and having contestants in the Teen pageant this fall, I think the pageants have gotten away from that. It is so competitive now, there is so much tension and pressure, the girls are so focused on winning that I think some of them are forgetting to just have fun and enjoy the experience." (NT) -- and please explain this for us too, 11:50:38 10/27/04 Wed Oh, and I would also like to add that I like the idea of local pageants restricting their areas, or at least some of them. It does make for more community support. There are some other pageants that either already do this or that I have heard are doing this for the coming year, among them one or two of the Leading Lady pageants, one in Palm Beach, and the Hialeah pageant. I have also heard talk of some pageants possibly awarding two titles, one for highest scoring local contestant and one for the highest scoring open contestant. I think that is a great idea also! (NT) -- just a little info for everyone, 09:02:01 10/27/04 Wed

Subject: Has anyone seen the Miss Daytona Beach Teen/Miss Volusia County Teen site? WOW is all I can say.
Author: www.missdaytonabeachteen.com [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:57:11 10/24/04 Sun
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Re: Has anyone seen the Miss Daytona Beach Teen/Miss Volusia County Teen site? WOW is all I can say. (NT) -- It is okay., 19:22:15 10/24/04 Sun Just checked it out! Great job ladies and congrats for the awesome job at state and representing your area! My daughter competed with you and found all of you incredibly sweet! (NT) -- :), 01:23:22 10/25/04 Mon Re: Just checked it out! Great job ladies and congrats for the awesome job at state and representing your area! My daughter competed with you and found all of you incredibly sweet! (NT) -- The flash is entertaining but misleading., 05:38:09 10/25/04 Mon In what way did you find it misleading? I thought it was very good. (NT) -- eye catching and entertaining, 10:22:28 10/25/04 Mon Re: In what way did you find it misleading? I thought it was very good. (NT) -- I caught that too...some of the pictures are from state but are under special appearances and stuff like that...lol these 2 directors crack me up., 13:12:09 10/25/04 Mon Gosh, you guys are funny! The site looks great (and no, I am not one of the directors or anyone affiliated with them). These directors give a lot to their community and have a great passion for pageantry. If you have met them, or been to one of their pageants, you will see how much they care and how hard they work for their girls. I love the site and think the flash presentation is great! Wish I knew how to do something like that. (NT) -- Keep up the good work ladies!, 13:30:52 10/25/04 Mon Re: Gosh, you guys are funny! The site looks great (and no, I am not one of the directors or anyone affiliated with them). These directors give a lot to their community and have a great passion for pageantry. If you have met them, or been to one of their pageants, you will see how much they care and how hard they work for their girls. I love the site and think the flash presentation is great! Wish I knew how to do something like that. (NT) -- I see the other posters point....but have to ask you if they are so fantastic why misrepresent their pageant?, 17:46:16 10/25/04 Mon I think some people are reading way too much into the video. I watched it again to really try to see the previous posters point. There was ONE photo of Nakia at state during the "appearance" section that could be considered questionable. The point of the vid is to attract new contestants to compete in their pageants. We all know where the photo came from but young ladies new to pageants don't. Do you really think that has an impact on their overall experience as contestants? (NT) -- Besides, from what I hear they make their queens feel like stars at EVERY event they attend, 19:52:24 10/25/04 Mon I have to agree. There queens seem very happy about their experiences and that is what is truly important....the positive impact on these young girls' lives! (NT) -- Just talk to their queens if you have any doubts!, 21:54:45 10/25/04 Mon Re: I have to agree. There queens seem very happy about their experiences and that is what is truly important....the positive impact on these young girls' lives! (NT) -- Yes but from what I got from them they are told to just show up with their crown and sash on and more than 1/2 of the appearances weren't scheduled just throw on the sash/crown and snap a picture for the website., 01:14:26 10/26/04 Tue That is so untrue! The only appearances that weren't official or scheduled appearances were the ones from the Miss USA pageant. Angela and Kim are very well connected in their community and have very open communication with the Chamber in each city. This whole argument is petty jealousy. They are hands down the best, most involved, local directors in the state. (NT) -- I've know Kim for many years. She is very organized and plans every detail out months in advance. I can't imagine her just "showing up" to these appearances especially ones in their own community., 02:33:39 10/26/04 Tue Re: That is so untrue! The only appearances that weren't official or scheduled appearances were the ones from the Miss USA pageant. Angela and Kim are very well connected in their community and have very open communication with the Chamber in each city. This whole argument is petty jealousy. They are hands down the best, most involved, local directors in the state. (NT) -- I know that is how the Teen USA event went., 08:01:45 10/26/04 Tue They didn't go to Teen USA, they went to Miss USA. If you were in Los Angeles at that time you would have seen all kinds of title holders walking around with their sashes on, even those not affiliated with the Miss USA Pageant. Some Teen USA contestants went sightseeing with their sashes and no one says anything about those photos (NT) -- Get over it, the pageant is great, the photos are fantastic, and the video is amazing. Way to go Daytona, 13:23:55 10/26/04 Tue Re: They didn't go to Teen USA, they went to Miss USA. If you were in Los Angeles at that time you would have seen all kinds of title holders walking around with their sashes on, even those not affiliated with the Miss USA Pageant. Some Teen USA contestants went sightseeing with their sashes and no one says anything about those photos (NT) -- I saw the video of the opening number last year. I am not sure about the judgement used to choreograph the dance but it was a good pageant., 13:49:10 10/26/04 Tue I heard that they weren't happy with their choreographer for the Daytona pageant because the dance was questionable. It was someone they trusted to do a good job so they didn't have her show them the dance until she was teaching it to the contestants. Kendra Waller choreographed the Volusia pageant which was awesome. (NT) -- I think the Daytona pageant had flaws and if you TALK to the directors, they are the first to point them out. I thought Volusia pageant was flawless, 16:19:09 10/26/04 Tue Re: I heard that they weren't happy with their choreographer for the Daytona pageant because the dance was questionable. It was someone they trusted to do a good job so they didn't have her show them the dance until she was teaching it to the contestants. Kendra Waller choreographed the Volusia pageant which was awesome. (NT) -- Why did the directors dance in it then? The director is always responsible., 19:50:11 10/26/04 Tue No director danced in either pageant. Is your question why did the directors let the contestants dance it? You can't change something as big as the opening number at the last second. I too thought the Volusia pageant was flawless, great show! (NT) -- At least this pageant does an actual opening number! Even the state pageant doesn't do that., 20:14:07 10/26/04 Tue I think Kim and Angela are excellent Directors and an asset to the USA system-they do great work with their girls but--- (NT) -- Volusia flawless??? Then what was all the chat about on their board about judges, explanations, etc., 21:08:28 10/26/04 Tue If you read the statement from directors on their board then you would know that was all from one parent who wasn't happy that her daughter didn't make the semi-finals (NT) -- the issue has been resolved, 00:07:50 10/27/04 Wed

Subject: Cool explanation of the scoring system off another board.

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Date Posted: 23:32:56 10/26/04 Tue

The scoring system can be confusing if you are used to a point system. If there are going to be 12 semi-finalist, then the judges are told to circle their 12 favorite girls in each category. The 12 girls with the most circles from SS, EG, and interview are the semi-finalist. Then, the judges are told to pick thier favorite 5 out of the twelve to advance to the finalist. Once the finalist are chosen, the judges then rank the girls from the favorite to the least favorite of the top five. Different point amounts are awarded for each spot. I think it is like this and if not exactly it is very close to this: Winner-5 pts., 1st-3, 2nd-2, 3rd-1 and 4th-.5. For instance, if 3 judges put a girl to win and two put her as 4th, she would have 16 points. If 2 judges picked a girl to win and the other 3 judges had her as 1st runner-up, she would have a total score of 19 and would be the winner even though the other contestant received more winning votes.

Subject: Miss Hollywood Results are in....

Author:
The first qualifiers for state
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Date Posted: 23:18:50 10/24/04 Sun

Hollywood Teen USA
Miss Amity is Marsha Nangkal and Miss Photogenic is Claudia Artime. The Peoples Choice Award went to Diana Crawford.

Then the final announcements were:
2nd Runner Up is Kristen Gillis.
1st Runner Up is Claudia Artime
The New Miss Hollywood Teen USA is Diana Crawford!

Miss Hollywood USA:
Miss Amity is Lindsay Shockey while Miss Photogenic is Janelle Morea. The Peoples Choice Award went to Britten Simon. Then the final announcements were made:

4th Runner Up is Britten Simon.
3rd Runner Up is Jennifer Olkinitsky.
2nd Runner Up is Pamela Rindone.
1st Runner Up is Lauren Dickenson.
The New Miss Hollywood USA is Lindsay Shockey!

Subject: Have any additional air dates and times been announced?
Author: wanting to know [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:32:47 10/24/04 Sun The only one on the Miss Florida Teen website is for the Ft Myers/Naples area. I want to watch it and I am wanting to let family and friends know so they can tune in!

Subject: Pictures of all preliminary gowns now up!!
Author: www.heathermowry.us [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:18:24 10/22/04 Fri Direct link is http://heathermowry.us/Miss%20Florida%20Teen%20USA%202005.html
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(NT) -- My favorites based on the gowns not the girls!!!, 21:22:26 10/22/04 Fri BTW. not bashing these girls, only meant I was looking ONLY at gowns and choosing my favorite gown! (NT) -- :), 22:45:28 10/22/04 Fri (NT) -- Individual Preliminary swimsuit pictures now up also!, 09:52:00 10/23/04 Sat Re: (NT) -- Heather Mowry has the best website. It is packed with information. The scapebooking days are over-we now have e-scrapebooks. Thanks Heather and Christine., 10:26:06 10/23/04 Sat (NT) -- Opening Introduction pictures are now up too!, 22:20:21 10/23/04 Sat

Subject: Queen for a Day needs your help with tiaras!

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Jenna Edwards, Miss Florida 2004 (MAO)
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Date Posted: 23:44:22 10/22/04 Fri

I am writing to solicit tiara donations for Queen for a Day and the pageant community has always been supportive. The good news is we are growing rapidly with new chapters all over the country and our current chapters are increasing activity with more parties. The bad news is we are not bringing in enough tiaras to support the demand. I am making a plea to anyone with extra crowns to please donate them to Queen for a Day. Even MAO titleholders can send their extra local prelim crowns to us. For instance, I only have 2 prelim crowns. I'm keeping one for a keepsake and I'm donating the other to QFAD. We are in desperate need of tiaras so any help, no matter how seemingly insignificant, is greatly appreciated.

Queen for a Day is a 501C3 non-profit organization for seriously and terminally ill pediatric patients. So many times, illness hurts a patient psychologically more than physically. Children forget to be kids and resort to the isolation the disease offers as the alternative. When QFAD comes to the hospital, we give the patients a reason to be a kid again. We host tea parties for girls to be pampered with makeovers, manicures, and their very own coronation ceremony. Each patient receives a real tiara donated by queens across the nation! When a child looks in the mirror after her makeover and smiles, she has pushed down her illness. When they giggle and prance around the room wearing tiaras on bald heads, they beat down their illness. The Queen for a Day crown symbolizes victory as they are champions over their illness.

At our events, bald cancer patients come in with pale skin and apprehensive expressions. By the time they leave, they have smiling bright red lips, blushing cheeks, energy in their step and a crown donning their hairless head. They walk in clutching their IV pole. They walk away with their shoulders thrown back and their head held high, leaving the nurses to handle the IV pole.

For the boys, we encourage the qualities of bravery and courage through the Heroes program based on firefighters and police officers. We invite local heroes to attend the event to tell heroic stories and develop a friendship with the patients. Patients receive firefighter hats, badges, and other hero-themed gifts.

For four years, QFAD has operated and developed into 33 chapters in the U.S. and 8 in South Africa. We have been featured on the Oprah Winfrey Show twice and in People Magazine. Oprah�s Angel Network donated $10,000 in supplies in April 2001. Companies such as Ford Motor Company, the Miss America Organization, Kappa Kappa Gamma sorority, Tony and Tina cosmetics, and Clinique cosmetics have supported QFAD as well.

Visit our website at www.qfad.org for information. Thank you so much!

Subject: AP Article - Miss America and ABC part ways.....

Author:
Very Sad Day for Pageanty
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Date Posted: 21:16:44 10/20/04 Wed

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. (AP) - ABC has dropped Miss America, leaving the famous beauty pageant without a TV outlet for the first time in 50 years.

The network, which had carried the annual telecast since 1997 with a series of one-year contracts, notified Miss America Organization officials that they will not pick up the option this year, the pageant's acting president and CEO, Arthur McMaster, said Wednesday.

"We are now free to pursue other parties who have expressed interest in our organization, and we are excited at the limitless opportunities that are now available for us to grow our brand," he said.

The move, which comes after the Sept. 18 pageant drew a record low 9.8 million viewers, could jeopardize the foundation of a program that grew from an Atlantic City publicity stunt into a highly rated TV staple, largely on the strength of the contest and crowning beamed into millions of living rooms each September.

Since Lee Meriwether was crowned on Sept. 11, 1954, in the first televised pageant, Miss America has grown into a nonprofit corporation that makes available more than $40 million annually in scholarship aid and oversees 52 local pageants.

But the pageant's appeal to potential contestants, sponsors and fans hinges on the annual TV show, a live event whose glittery gowns, hokey talent acts and girl-next-door crownings fueled the fantasies of little girls for years.

Without network television to provide those images, Miss America faces an uncertain future.

"It's certainly an ominous sign," said former chief executive officer Leonard Horn. "Whether or not they can get a contract with another network is going to be very important."

ABC officials didn't immediately respond to requests for comment.

ABC, which took over Miss America after 30-year sponsor NBC lost interest in 1996, has had rocky relations with Miss America officials in recent years, in part because of sinking ratings.

McMaster, who had pressed the network to move Miss America to a weeknight and televise some part of its three nights of preliminary competition, said the pageant was happy to part ways with ABC.

"There's already been companies that have contacted us and expressed an interest," he said. "This thing's been around for 84 years and it'll be around for another 84. I'm not going to say I'm not worried, but I think there's much more out there."

The loss of its network sponsor deals the Miss America Organization a financial blow, too. In 2003, ABC paid $5.6 million for the rights to televise it.

"There's no doubt, TV is the catalyst that keeps this company going. But it's not a one-night-a-year organization. It's a 52-weeks-a-year organization. We want to grow beyond that one night," said McMaster.

Pageant officials believe that on a weeknight, Miss America would draw more viewers and reach young people more likely to be out than watching television on Saturday nights, when the contest airs.

"I don't think it'll be a problem for a cable network to pick it up. There's a lot of niche networks that would pick it up because it's such a familiar brand," said Brad Adgate, senior vice president of research for Horizon Media, a media services company. "I could see them turning this into some form of reality show, where you stretch it over a few nights, these personalities become a little more familiar and you get to know them."

He said it was unlikely that CBS, NBC or Fox would televise Miss America, which has three telecasts in the Nielsen ratings' top 100 of all time (all in the early, mid-'60s).

Shari Anne Brill, director of programming for ad-buying firm Carat, said a women-oriented network like Lifetime or Oxygen might want Miss America, but the pageant will still be hard-pressed to compete with reality TV shows.

"It used to be that these pageants were much bigger events, because that's all there was. Now, you have 'The Swan,' 'America's Top Model' and all these reality competitions going on. With those type of shows, the viewer has more of a chance to connect than watching someone from some state in a sash and a bathing suit," Brill said.

Subject: My honest critque of the top 15!
Author: Honest Abby [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:28:50 10/15/04 Fri WARNING: This is a post containing an honest opinion! While meant to be informative and helpful, it is only the opinion of the poster and in no way should be taken as fact or expertise! I will first do the 15 (minus the top 5) in the order they were called: Lauren Lecompte Lauren is a very pretty girl and had a good onstage interveiw. Found her gown and ss presentation very safe. She looked exactly like she looked last year and I thought she went with the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentallity. However, it was a very strong year, and I just don't think she had enough stage presence to make the next cut. Young though, and can come back next year with more energy and be a real contender! Nakia Hardy http://www.missfloridateenusa.com/COMPETITION/PHOTO%20ALBUM/Top15/Top15c66.jpg" height="300" width="144"> Beautiful, tall, very fit girl! Great in ss, onstage interview was just ok to me, and gown was a bit mature on top, but she did have great stage presence and I think she will do very well when she moves on up to the miss division! Alyx Reynolds Very pretty, very well spoken girl despite her young age. Was one of the youngest to make this cut. Wore a different gown for prelims than for finals. Did not care for either gown. The first one washed her out and the second looked like co-ed. Great swimsuit figure. Something missing here, though. Maybe needs more "umph!!" Again, a very safe performance. But walked away with a deserving photogenic award! Lauren Dickenson This girl came from out of nowhere! Even though she was a prelim winner, she was hardly mentioned pre-pageant, and her gown was a little prom-ish, BUT she had an extremely pretty, fresh-looking, teen face! Don't know her age or if she can come back, but with the right help, could definately shine! Tiffany Terrell This girl is just very pretty and very well spoken. Probably was very close to the top 5! Thought she looked a bit mature, especially in her gown (although I thought the gown was pretty, she can use it when she moves up to Miss) She had worked hard on her figure and was fit, but still needed something. Shantavia Davis I thought this girl had a sweetness to her and a very pretty face. I liked her hair better when she wore it down and I think she just needs more experience and confidence on stage. Another young one though, and I expect to see her back stronger next year! Noelle Stevens Very, very well spoken girl. I think her interview skills are what put her into top 15. Cute opening number outfit, but was my least favorite gown. And needs to work on her walk. Something just a little off there. Stephanie Camp Can you say cute????!!! This girl is a doll and really bubbled on stage, however, there was a little uneasiness in interview and although I LOVED her gown, it kept wrapping around her feet, which was very distracting. Gotta give her credit though, she never once tripped or got frustrated with it, she just kept going. I look for her to come back very strong next year! Sara Long This girl was just gorgeous. Face and body got her into top 15 for sure!! Needs some work on onstage interview. But definately one of the prettiest in the competition! Brenda Orcutt Another very pretty girl and another one I think was right up there close to the top 5. Gown was one of my favorites, interview was good despite a bad question, but needs work in ss. I also expect to see her back stronger next year! TOP 5 4th Runner Up - Kimberly Wright Very good onstage interview! Didn't care for the gown, thought it overpowered her, and she made a few mistakes in prelims that may have cost her a little. Good ss figure and very pretty smile! 2rd Runner Up - Tatianna Schoeppler Very beautiful exotic looking girl! In my opinion, needed work in ss and the gown was a bit mature, but gave a great interview and had great energy on stage! Can't wait to see her in the Miss divsion next year! 2nd Runner Up - Heather Mowry Could not find a finals picture of Heather in gown on the Florida Teen site, so I pulled one off her site, because this girl was one of my favorites in ss! In fact she was one of my favorites, period. If it wasn't for a weak onstage interview, I think she could have won. Great personality on stage and since she is the only one who can return out of the top 5, I look for her to be a major contender next year. 1st Runner Up - Aimee Seheult Very pretty face and was very well spoken. Thought she needed work in ss but her presentation was very good. Wish her luck with her Co-ed title and with Miss division next year! Winner- Victoria Ratliff Very very pretty winner! Loved her gown, gave a good answer in interview and looked thin and fit! A great example of a girl who won because she made no mistakes! So there you have it, like it or not, those are my opinions and I hope the girls find them useful instead of offensive, because that is how they are meant!
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Sorry for some mistakes in posting the pics on Nakia, Lauren, and Tatianna, and also meant to say that I could not find a picture of Heather in SWIMSUIT not gown on the Florida Teen site. (NT) -- Original poster, 11:34:22 10/15/04 Fri I know when they pic top 15 and top 5 that they just circle the girls they want... but when it gets to top 5 I'm a little confused, so they just rate the girls 1-5 and each number has a point system..right? -- So if they used a 10 point system for each category a girl could have place a 30, whereas the others might not have, but since they PICK the winner one judge may have a favorite for the crown and be concerned another girl may take the votes of the other judges and place her last so she doesn't win ----- (NT) -- I see this as a problem - not bashing - Just concerned..., 12:40:33 10/19/04 Tue With very savvy judges, this has been known to happen, but hopefully, they ethically and don't take pts from other girls to "lowball" them. The other scenario that this system creates, is that the most CONSISTANT girl tends to win. A girl who no one picks as the winner, but everyone has as 1st ru can actually win! (NT) -- interesting, 13:28:00 10/19/04 Tue This is very true. I know for a fact that one of the girls in the top 5 who did not win (not naming names) was told by a judge after the pageant that she had been that judges pick to win. So obviously, there were different girls picked by different judges and then it all balances out! (NT) -- in the know, 13:40:25 10/19/04 Tue Re: This is very true. I know for a fact that one of the girls in the top 5 who did not win (not naming names) was told by a judge after the pageant that she had been that judges pick to win. So obviously, there were different girls picked by different judges and then it all balances out! (NT) -- That makes me not like this method of judging, I would rather see them judge 1-10 or 15 for every category, it makes more sense and seems more fair to me, 16:04:49 10/19/04 Tue Well, a savvy judge could also do the same thing with that type of judging. They could give the girl they want a high score and the one they want to "lowball" a low one. Doesn't really protect against it. (NT) -- With whatever system, you just have to trust the judges I guess!, 16:23:04 10/19/04 Tue Re: Well, a savvy judge could also do the same thing with that type of judging. They could give the girl they want a high score and the one they want to "lowball" a low one. Doesn't really protect against it. (NT) -- True, but if they are more focused on judging the girls individually I think there is a better chance they will be judged equally, rather than - pick your favorite - can't have it my way I know ;), 00:56:02 10/20/04 Wed

Subject: Any news on Miss US World yet? How did Kristen do???
Author: wondering [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:49:12 10/16/04 Sat Crowning is supposed to be tonite at 9pm Dallas time. Should be any minute!!
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Re: Any news on Miss US World yet? How did Kristen do??? -- INBC, 02:13:57 10/17/04 Sun It's official on the Miss US world site. Nancy Randall won. No word on runners up. (NT) -- , 11:19:18 10/17/04 Sun Nancy Randall, age 24, 5'9", from Chicago, Bachelor of Arts in Anthropology and Latin American Studies. Deans�s List for 3 years and graduated with Honors in Anthropology. Oswald Werner Prize for Best Honors Senior Thesis, University. Rotary Ambassadorial Scholarship, National Merit Corporation National Achievement Finalist. Fluent in Portuguese and Spanish. Volunteer Tutor to low-income families and English instructor to economically disadvantage college students. (NT) -- bio off Miss World site, 11:23:23 10/17/04 Sun That's OK Kristen, we love you anyways!! (NT) -- go Kristen!, 11:24:24 10/17/04 Sun Kristen was 1st Runner up! (NT) -- Way to go Kristen!, 11:24:14 10/18/04 Mon Re: Kristen was 1st Runner up! (NT) -- No she was 4th R/U but still good job., 16:20:34 10/18/04 Mon Well, there are people who say differently, click in!! -- Off the American Beauty Board!, 23:30:30 10/18/04 Mon Re: Well, there are people who say differently, click in!! (NT) -- So I have an e mail from the director that says 4th r/u, 05:36:19 10/19/04 Tue Well, I guess you shouldn't believe everything you read in an email! (NT) -- LOL, 18:39:31 10/19/04 Tue Re: Well, there are people who say differently, click in!! (NT) -- I believe everything I read on boards don't you?, 05:37:03 10/19/04 Tue No, I don't, but I do wish they would post the official results on their site and let everyone know what is really true! (NT) -- :-), 10:37:41 10/19/04 Tue Off the Miss World Website!!! "Nancy Randall has been chosen as US Miss World 2004! First runner up is Kristen Berset, followed by Anna Hanks as second runner up, Lisette Diaz as third runner up and Danielle Bounds as fourth runner up." (NT) -- , 18:36:06 10/19/04 Tue "The finals took place in Dallas, Texas from October 14th - 16th. Winners of the secondary events were: Anna Hanks - Swimsuit Competition, Lisette Diaz - Personality Competition, and Nancy Randall - Evening Gown Competition and Corporate Choice, a new category introduced into the contest this year.In the coming days we will be posting a series of photographs that cover the three days of events. These will also be available for purchase, so check back often for updates" (NT) -- more from www.usmissworld.com, 18:38:49 10/19/04 Tue It's official! Off the Miss World site! Kristen was indeed 1st runner up! We are proud of you Kristen and I hope that whoever was trying to mislead people here about your placement will crawl back under the rock they came out from under! (NT) -- Congrats Kristen!, 18:41:12 10/19/04 Tue

Subject: Sarah Long
Author: smm [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:27:02 10/16/04 Sat I see crowns on the head of Sarah Long, don't know how she missed top 5? I go strictly on beauty, Victoria would have been right up there for me too! we need to start thinking about this at state level and I do Believe Victoria will do Very well. But this Long girl has the it factor, How old and how tall?
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Re: Sarah Long (NT) -- Don't know her age, but know she is petite. She currently holds a petite title., 18:24:25 10/16/04 Sat She is Miss Petite Florida Teen International (NT) -- , 18:40:44 10/16/04 Sat Re: She is Miss Petite Florida Teen International (NT) -- Pageant is run by the same people who run official Daytona Beach USA, 18:41:45 10/16/04 Sat Re: She is Miss Petite Florida Teen International -- Brenda Orcutt also has a Florida International title-both girls did well at MFTUSA. Do these girls have an advantage competing on a national level and then, 23:58:33 10/16/04 Sat Re: She is Miss Petite Florida Teen International -- Brenda Orcutt also has a Florida International title and Aimee has the Florida Coed title-all three girls did very well at MFTUSA. Do these girls have an advantage competing on a national level and then, 00:03:03 10/17/04 Sun Good point! I think all these girls are very strong. It definately didn't hurt them to have stage time under their belt. It is very uncommon for someone to come into this without ANY prior experience and win. Victoria definately was an experienced pageant girl. I think if you can get the stage time and yet remain natural, it can definately benefit you! (NT) -- IMO, 00:08:08 10/17/04 Sun What was the pageant experience of the rest of the top 15? (NT) -- Any total newbies???, 00:09:11 10/17/04 Sun Lauren L had competed last year and has done some prelims, Aimee, Victoria, Tiffany T, Noelle Stevens, and Nakia were pretty experienced. I heard Heather's mom say she has done about 4 over the last year or so and I think Stephanine has done about the same. I think Kimberly (NT) -- Any total newbies???, 00:13:27 10/17/04 Sun cont.....I think Kimberly's prelim was her first, and Alyx had done a couple in the panhandle. Lauren D, Shantavia and Tatianna were all prelim winners, but don't know any prior experience. And Brenda and Sara were already discussed. (NT) -- Whew. think I covered them all! Anyone else know any history??, 00:16:42 10/17/04 Sun She looks to be about the same height as Victoria, who is said to be around 5'4" (NT) -- , 18:46:56 10/16/04 Sat Re: She looks to be about the same height as Victoria, who is said to be around 5'4" (NT) -- VR is closer to 5' 2" don't care what her bio says. I am 5' 3" and she is shorter than I am., 21:23:13 10/16/04 Sat Re: She looks to be about the same height as Victoria, who is said to be around 5'4" (NT) -- Her swimsuit is also cut extremely low-but it does give a much need illusion of height. Who cares if it is inappropriate for teen-it works baby., 00:06:06 10/17/04 Sun

Subject: Rules on entry for next year!!
Author: cut and pasted from another board [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:27:25 10/15/04 Fri The New Miss Florida USA Qualifying Rules (cut & pasted directly from the newsletter) To qualify for this year�s Miss Florida USA Pageant delegates will have to compete in a local preliminary pageant. From each pageant the winner(s) will have a full paid entry into state. The automatic entries will be based on participation. 02-14 delegates per category: 1 entry 15-29 delegates per category: 2 entries 30+ delegates per category: 3 entries AT LARGE DELEGATES: To qualify as an �at-large� or paying delegate you have to be a finalist (top 5-6) in a local preliminary pageant. Also qualifying for state are local Miss Amity and Miss Photogenic award winners. The past seasons top 15 from state as well as state�s Miss Amity and Miss Photogenic winners have qualified. Past Miss Florida Teen USA and Miss Florida MAO winners also have automatic qualification. -- (as stated above this info was cut & pasted from the October 1st Newsletter so it is absolutely accurate!)
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EXPERTS WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE NEW SYSTEM? -- GUESS HOW MANY WILL BE AT STATE? MORE OR LESS THEN LAST YEAR?, 18:41:45 10/16/04 Sat I think you will have at least as many at state next year as there were this year. I counted 33 preliminaries and all you have to do is pick up one extra girl from each preliminary and you have 66! (NT) -- will be interesting, 20:16:28 10/16/04 Sat

Subject: A neat letter from our Miss Florida USA to a fan!
Author: from American Beauty Board [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:31:32 10/15/04 Fri Hi Giselle, I apologize for not getting back to you sooner. I just read the guestbook on my company's site and responded right away! Hope you survived the hurricanes alright. I'm getting very excited about Miss USA, however I've had very little time to prepare so far. Of course I have until February or March, so I think I'll be okay :) XXX...yes...I know them. I love the flooring mosaics they create. A friend of mine has worked with them on several projects. Her name is XXXX with Designers West (interior design firm in Orlando). Maybe you have worked with her. The stone industry is very interesting, as you know. The competition is tremendous, especially in South Florida. I've tried to concentrate on sales in North Florida because there aren't as many granite suppliers up there...therefore we don't have to try as hard to be competitive on our pricing! It's nice to hear I have support out there. Please let me know if there is anything I can do for you. And if you still have any contacts at XXXX, I would love to be put in touch with them. We may be able to compliment each other's businesses. THANKS and have a wonderful week, Melissa Witek Miss Florida USA 2005
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Re: A neat letter from our Miss Florida USA to a fan! (NT) -- What a class act!! Go Melissa!!, 15:35:00 10/15/04 Fri This letter is getting torn apart on the national board. Someon just responded that our Miss FL USA sounds illiterate! (NT) -- Note to self, the national board posters are idiots., 15:35:38 10/15/04 Fri Re: This letter is getting torn apart on the national board. Someon just responded that our Miss FL USA sounds illiterate! (NT) -- I second that motion!!, 15:40:05 10/15/04 Fri Re: A neat letter from our Miss Florida USA to a fan! (NT) -- Not well written but not illiterate either., 18:24:22 10/15/04 Fri I disagree. It was an informal email reply and I think it was written as such! (NT) -- :-), 18:30:05 10/15/04 Fri A reply to fan mail shouldn't be "letterhead-ready" (NT) -- It shoudl be warm and friendly, as this one is., 19:15:01 10/15/04 Fri Re: A reply to fan mail shouldn't be "letterhead-ready" (NT) -- If this is a reply to fan mail why all the fishing for business contacts??? Kinda strange, 20:43:05 10/15/04 Fri Because in addition to being Miss Florida, she is a businesswoman, and she is taking advantage of the opportunities of networking afforded her by the crown. I don't find anything wrong with that! (NT) -- don't find it strange, 21:49:42 10/15/04 Fri Re: Because in addition to being Miss Florida, she is a businesswoman, and she is taking advantage of the opportunities of networking afforded her by the crown. I don't find anything wrong with that! (NT) -- You missed the point if this was a response to a fan why be so over zealous about business contacts...kinda pushy, 23:14:25 10/15/04 Fri Re: Because in addition to being Miss Florida, she is a businesswoman, and she is taking advantage of the opportunities of networking afforded her by the crown. I don't find anything wrong with that! (NT) -- That came out wrong sorry, 23:49:11 10/15/04 Fri If you go to Melissa's web site for her company and read the post that Giselle placed on there, you would know why Melissa responded that way (NT) -- Giselle brought up her affiliation with the stone business is her guestbook entry., 11:18:53 10/16/04 Sat

Subject: MAO Workshops this weekend in Orlando
Author: check out Miss Florida America website for details [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:31:23 10/15/04 Fri There is a Judge's Workshop and a Don Baker Interview Workshop this weekend along with the Franchise Meeting at the University of Central Florida.
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Re: MAO Workshops this weekend in Orlando (NT) -- Does anyone know Don Baker's website address???, 15:16:11 10/15/04 Fri Re: MAO Workshops this weekend in Orlando (NT) -- donlbaker.com, 15:17:30 10/15/04 Fri

Subject: Wow!! Cool!!! Board looks great!
Author: Thanks! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:29:20 10/14/04 Thu
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I agree! (NT) -- :-), 16:10:12 10/14/04 Thu I had heard the other board was run by a prelim director. (NT) -- Anyone know if it is true????, 16:48:47 10/14/04 Thu Had heard the same thing, but I don't think that really matters. Whoever does it is doing a great job, but it is nice to have two different places with different moderators. (NT) -- I am sure they will compliment each other!, 16:50:55 10/14/04 Thu Re: Well, they bump post all the time. (NT) -- Concerned, 21:30:50 10/14/04 Thu Bump post??? What do you mean??? (NT) -- please explain, 21:54:04 10/14/04 Thu Re: Had heard the same thing, but I don't think that really matters. Whoever does it is doing a great job, but it is nice to have two different places with different moderators. (NT) -- Yes they do and report ISP to Tel Air and will leave negative things about contestants other than title holders. I quite going there too biased., 23:32:55 10/14/04 Thu I have seen that happen too! Moderator is slow to remove negative comments about other girls, but removed VERY quickly and everyone scolded when it is about certain girls! (NT) -- they need to play fair!, 23:42:13 10/14/04 Thu It will be interesting to see if they support this board and post on here too, or if they will stay away since they cannot control it! (NT) -- ???, 09:29:49 10/15/04 Fri Re: It will be interesting to see if they support this board and post on here too, or if they will stay away since they cannot control it! (NT) -- I hope they stay away because I am not so sure about what posts they make on the other board if you know what I mean., 13:50:55 10/15/04 Fri

Subject: Top 5 in candids!!
Author: beautiful girls [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:15:58 10/14/04 Thu
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All very pretty girls. Great board. (NT) -- Giselle, 09:51:35 10/15/04 Fri

Subject: New Miss Rhode Island USA
Author: off another message board [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:57:34 10/14/04 Thu
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New Miss UtahUSA (NT) -- , 17:10:20 10/14/04 Thu

Subject: Attention Potential "Southern Queens"

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Date Posted: 17:38:29 04/12/05 Tue

Hi Ladies!

If you are looking for a great 'practice pageant' or just a lot of fun, please consider the American Queen Pageant. We're in our third year and have built a great reputation as a fun, rewarding and fair pageant system. We're holding our Southern Regional Pageant on May 1st at the Atlanta Airport Hilton where we will be crowning state titleholders for all of the Southern States represented. Please email us for detailed info, or visit our website at: www.americanqueenpageant.net

Subject: Miss Naples USA/Teen USA
Author: Marianne & Katy [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:15:45 04/13/05 Wed Spots still available in both Miss and Teen divisions! Visit website at mproduction.us for application and information or email us at MOden41@aol.com!

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