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Date Posted: 22:59:40 04/15/09 Wed
Author: Skin_Tight
Subject: Re: MAIN THREAD Penis frenulum tying (ligation) information and indicative photos
In reply to: SWEENEY TODD 's message, "Re: MAIN THREAD Penis frenulum tying (ligation) information and indicative photos" on 14:14:19 04/15/09 Wed

I'm having difficulty with cutting with the 4/0 suture and was thinking of switching to nylon fishing-type line as I was thinking the elasticity would help keep a constant pressure on the tissue. Now that I read your problems, I'm not as sure. Maybe finer nylon would work? Though I have concerns that with fine line that the cut will heal behind the line and essentially re-seal the cut!

The part of the frenulum I tied is very tendonous (very tough) so maybe it'll just take longer, or maybe it won't cut at all.

I'm just having a hard time believing that a line without elasticity would cut through. You'd think that as soon as the smallest cut was made, that the line would then go slack and stop cutting.

See my other posts for pics of the tying.

Thanks,

Davey

>Glad to help, just like the other's here.........
>
>
>READ THIS PLEASE....... Foreskin mechanics.. rel=nofollow target=_blank >rel=nofollow target=_blank
>href="http://www.cirp.org/pages/anat/">http://www.cirp.
>org/pages/anat/ It may clarify a few things.
>
>I have been using a 1mm 10lb fishing line and I
>thought it was tight but I have failed to achieve a
>cut within 8 days ..... which is a shame. I pulled it
>very tight using cheap forceps gripping the fishing
>line and thought I did a good job but......:( Anyway,
>I may yet get a 4-0 suture (thanks bob!_ from ebay to
>do the job.... It is a thinner thread and should
>achieve a crimp/strangulation/cut hopefully..
>Yes, sion's description is right and one of the photos
>that I uploaded (which has a clipart needle and thread
>poking through the frenulum (THE CORRECT PLACE TO
>STRIKE!!) is sion's photo which I helpfully added as
>it shows a good perspective.
>
>I am sure there is an easier way to archive the photos
>somewhere, so if anyone wants to grab them and find a
>better place, please feel free as it is all in aid of
>the great good!!!!!!
>
>Now let me explain this in detail whilst my keyboard
>is on fire lol....
>
>1) It is important to note that we are all different.
>I believe that the frenulum fastening point can be in
>slightly different areas of the glans (penis head)
>which is why some of us are ok, some are not, some are
>borderline and some are probably having great
>fun......:/ depending on our individual level of
>frenulum breve (short banjo string)
>
>2) Some men, very sadly, can actually have a penile
>urethral meatus opening in a different location to the
>norm (ie not perfectly centred on the glans, so this
>can be a big problem as well. (Hypospadias and
>hyperspadias). In fact, who am I to say exactly where
>the exact location of the meatus should be....I
>suppose the fact is that it should be as open and at
>the end of he straight run of the urethra as possible.
> Anyway, not to deviate.......which is what I am
>doing.......tut tut.
>
>3) The mission objective is clearly as follows.
>a) Sever the frenulum, nearest to the glans and
>nearest to the penile shaft
>b) Decide whether to avoid or tie the 2 frenular
>blood vessels..... I CHOSE TO AVOID TYING
>THEM......
>
>The trouble is............... You can't do (A) in
>some cases because of tightness which means it is hard
>work, if you have extreme frenulum breve for
>instance.......
>
>In this case, perhaps HC45 cream (1% steroid based and
>non--prescription cough..., BUT not as good as
>betamethasone)will help you to gradually thin and
>stretch the frenulum a bit to allow access. The 5%
>betamethasone is much superior though..... but
>prescription based.....
>You may also of course have a tight phimotic ring or
>penile prepuce? , which will constrict on the head or
>even get stuck, leading to very nasty paraphimosis.....
>
>You also can't do (B) in some cases, because you need
>to be able to shine a small light through the frenulum
>folds to illuminate the 2 blood vessels so that you
>can avoid them....
>
>Once you can access the frenulum and see/avoid the
>vessels, then you can try the tying.
>
>Let's keep a discussion going on this please for all
>of the men who may eventually fall on this forum
>without knowing its benefits.......

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