• OK. I feel the same about directors having charity pageants for their own entry fee to a pageant. Be honest! (NT) -- ..., 03/02/14 Sun
  • wow...never heard about that but agree. (NT) -- support your hobby, 03/02/14 Sun
• Thank you! I know one who does this year after year, then she whines and cries online when she doesn't win. (NT) -- So tacky, 03/02/14 Sun
  • yeah, it's pretty darn embarrassing, even to read! (NT) -- not sure what's she's thinking, 03/03/14 Mon
• I would never go to FB to raise $$ for a pageant. When you get to the national level you go to small local business to sponsor an ad etc. Other than that, what the heck do they want you to "go fund"? Their personal Travel? Hotel? Wardrobe? Misc.? If you can't afford to go to nationals, DON'T COMPETE... When it comes to a mandatory "ad page" I have no problem with women doing their due diligence and scoping out local sponsors, but to ask friends and family for $$$ to compete is low-class. Unless it's an actual sponsorship for an ad page get out of the self fund-raising business. (NT) -- Stop the FB fundraising insanity...., 03/03/14 Mon
  • Could not agree with you more!!!! another one just popped up. If you can't afford to compete, don't do it!!! You know going in pageatry is an expensive HOBBY and I find it rude to ask others to pay for your HOBBY! (NT) -- tacky, tacky, tacky, 03/03/14 Mon
• Just saw a video on youtube of someone asking for donations. OMG!!!! Personally, I think this is rhe depth of tackiness. (NT) -- I just don't get it., 03/09/14 Sun

• Three things stand out to me: 1) A great, clean website with good branding/good royalty photos and lots of information. 2) Good production in a theater, not on a one-foot-tall stage in a little ballroom lit with fluorescent ceiling lights. 3) Less categories. I understand the desire to make more crowns available in an attempt to get more contestants, but honestly it only ends up cheapening the competition. Mrs. America, International, and United States have one national winner, not a winner for every five years of age, every two inches of height, etc. Keep it prestigious. (NT) -- Food for thought, 03/04/14 Tue
  • you pretty much said it. Fabulous venue, quality women who are vying for one crown, great schedule, and a web site anyone would be proud to show off. Most can't do all that and don't even try. (NT) -- so, the big 3 does it. That's the difference., 03/05/14 Wed
• Re: My thought is to answer about one division, most pageants have other divisions and need to to help those that don't fit the 5"7 110 pound contestant . There are so many wonderful ladies that make wonderful queens that couldn't even make the cut in the big three. To have the different divisions at different times for a pageant would be so expensive for a director so put them all together and have a high end pageant for all. Great show, and great things to do leading up to the pageant . (NT) -- N/N, 03/05/14 Wed
  • NAM is a great example of how to do this (I realize they're Miss not Mrs. but I think the formula could still work.) Multiple divisions and each division has their own show. However there's only an hour's time between each show. More economical for the directors because they're renting the venue for the one weekend but having multiple shows. The main girl is crowned, everyone celebrates, clears the theater. The tickets are fairly cheap and they pack the auditorium full every time. It takes a lot more organization for the director but I think could be worth it. (NT) -- More food for thought?, 03/05/14 Wed
    • but NAM is just another ballroom pageant. they have the numbers to split up shows. its not economical for pageants to split up divisions if there isnt at least 20 in a division. (NT) -- have to budget wisely, 03/08/14 Sat

• I would tell myself to invest my money in a good, proven results pageant coach. That was my mistake, corrected it and won my second time on the pageant stage. -- and to relax, 10/17/13 Thu
• You can do your best but still lose...its entirely subjective and theres more politics than you could EVER know at work so dont stress and dont overspend -- Not all based on merit more on luck, 10/18/13 Fri
• Like the above poster, I say this. You can have all the money, wardrobe, coaching, in the world. You can prepare to the max, be ready, be on your game, everything in place - BUT, it comes down to a group of human beings, who have opinions, feelings, and see you through their eyes only, and it could be something very silly & they just don't like you (hair color, remind them of their x wife) and you're a goner. -- it's not personal sometime, just human nature, 10/19/13 Sat
• Fun little experience but know when to let it go. -- d, 10/20/13 Sun
• I would not have visited voy and I would say don't spend that crazy stupid money, you will never get it back (not even for the experience) -- :-), 10/21/13 Mon
• I learned to compete once maybe twice for a title, more than that and you look desperate not determined. -- IMHO, 10/21/13 Mon
  • Yes but for some it pays big. Valerie Brooks won Mrs TX America on her 15th try and made top 5 or 10 (?) at Mrs America -- I find that inspiring she never quit & now she too is a former, 10/21/13 Mon
    • I personally can't justify competing 15 times for a title (or more than twice like the other person) that's a lot of money, time, etc that can be spent on family/needs/other interests -- That's just way too much for me, 10/21/13 Mon
      • I completely agree. I have never competed in any pageant more than twice, however, if there was a title I wanted badly enough, then three times would be the absolute max since I guess third time's a charm. If I can't win a pageant after trying 3 times, then I'd just have to assume it's not for me! (NT) -- The most I've ever done is twice, the most I'd ever consider is 3 times, 10/22/13 Tue
  • This is a good example of why you should ignore these comments. What one person finds desperate another finds inspiring. Just follow your own instincts. There are no rules for what is best for you. (NT) -- Be true to yourself, 10/22/13 Tue
    • I think 15 times is overkill. Sorry but I think that is being desperate. I think you have to realize that 15 years going after one title is also obsessive in my book (NT) -- Too each their own I guess, 10/24/13 Thu
      • It's not if every time you go, you enjoy the experience. If you challenge yourself, make friends, help other competitors, and not be completely self-absorbed in trying to win the title, then every one of those 15 times is beneficial to you and others. There is nothing desperate about that. (NT) -- Winning at the detriment of others and the pageant environment is desperate, 10/24/13 Thu
        • I'm sorry but if anyone does a pageant 15 times, I don't believe for a second that they're not trying to win the title. Of course they are! I don't know if I would call it desperate but I would definitely have to agree with the poster who said it's obsessive. If it was just about the "experience" then I think someone would just alternate between different pageants, every year for 15 years. But when it's the same one 15 times straight, then it's definitely about winning that specific title. (NT) -- I'm in no way bashing the woman who did it 15 times, 10/24/13 Thu
      • I agree! 15 times is obsessed. All that money thrown around and family time? I don't think so (NT) -- IMHO, 10/25/13 Fri
        • Some titles are valued more than others sad to say. Many Miss America and Miss USA girls compete until they age out. In Mrs./Ms. there is no aging out so some will compete as many times as it takes. If I was married and I could afford it I would compete at the state level until I win for the big 3 yearly. (NT) -- repeat contender, 10/25/13 Fri
          • Just because one person views it as an obsession does not mean we all feel the same way. I say that if it is truly the title you want, then pursue it. What you do with your money is your business and as long as you are not taking money from a vacation fund, etc., you do your thing and stop listening to others who call it an obsession. IT TRULY IS NOT OTHER PEOPLE'S BUSINESS HOW YOU SPEND YOUR TIME OR MONEY! (NT) -- Nuf said!, 10/25/13 Fri
          • You do know that Miss America prelims don't have entry fees right? Lol (NT) -- I still say it's obsessive, 10/25/13 Fri
            • They are speaking about Mrs. pageants otherwise you would age out of a Miss. That being said, it is still not my place, your place or anyone else's place to tell someone how or what to spend their money on. I have friends who spend an average of $50 a week on Lottery tickets and they have been doing this for years. Do you really think I give a darn what anyone does with their money or how many times they spend their money on the same thing over and over? Seriously, people, it's none of anyone's business but the person doing it and if they can afford to do it repeatedly I sa go for it! (NT) -- Kudos to them!, 10/25/13 Fri
            • Miss America requires every young lady to pay a Children's Miracle Network fee for every local they compete in and ever state competition. That can add up when you exhaust your supporters after the 3 or 4th pageant. Plus all the wardrobe you are required to wear and purchase for competition. VERY expensive, but they have mom's and dad's to pay. Some of the younger MRS still have mommy and daddy to help them out, especially those who competed as young ladies and never won, but for the most part it is on the family of the woman competing to pay. I agree, 15 times is a bit much (click in) -- Tried 4 times and have moved on a winner for what I accomplished., 10/26/13 Sat
              • God doesn't judge pageants; a rotating panel of adults do. God is probably busy with more important things than pageants. (NT) -- smh, 10/28/13 Mon
                • Nobody said he judged pageant, what was stated is that maybe you are not winning because there is a different path for you. He is willing to wait, some just don't listen! (NT) -- Sorry you miss understood! If it is in HIS plan it will happen., 10/28/13 Mon
                  • So it's God's will if you lose, and God's plan if you win? (NT) -- Isn't he too busy for this kind of stuff?, 10/30/13 Wed
                    • God is never too busy for anything. EVERYTHING is God's will/plan. I think the previous poster's message was very clear. (NT) -- It's obvious you don't understand, 10/31/13 Thu
                      • If "everything" is God's plan, then why are there disasters, violence, famine, etc Yes, I have a relationship with God, so don't go there. I just think it is a shame when people give up trying and accept failure because they use the excuse that God didn't will it to happen. (NT) -- Best to be thankful for God, but not assign every outcome as his decision, 10/31/13 Thu
                        • Opportunities opened for me, after my loss, when I let myself be open to him. If his plan for you includes a win it will happen. Violence happens because we have free will, God is there! He knows before we do and is there to be our comfort. He cannot stop evil, disasters, or famine but he can put a spirit in us that help us, as humans, come together in love for one another. You don't have to understand, maybe it is not for you to understand right now. But for me it is clear. Once you are open and trust in his direction for you, love is the path you walk, with or without a crown. (NT) -- have a great day!, 10/31/13 Thu
                          • Couldn't have said it better myself! (NT) -- Well said!, 11/01/13 Fri
                        • I said everything is God's PLAN not everything is God's FAULT. As far as disasters... there are MANY people who (CLICK IN) -- Maybe you should reconsider what you view as "failure", 11/01/13 Fri
                          • so if it's good, then God did it. but if it's bad, then it's our fault? Wow. I didn't know humans could cause tornados, earthquakes & volcanoes, etc. -- wow, 11/04/13 Mon
                            • You obviously only read what you wanted to read. Where did I say anywhere that anything was OUR fault? All I said was that EVERYTHING isn't God's fault. Sometimes things just happen (call it the devil, if you want) but it is GOD that gets us through those things. It's obvious you are biased and don't want to see things any other way so I'm done! (NT) -- I could go into more detail but what's the point, 11/04/13 Mon
                              • These posts are not from the same person. I made the post asking about why bad things happen if is god's plan, but I did not make the post about good things being from god and bad things not. That poster does have a point though. It did come across that way, I thought. But I didn't say it. Anyway, just wanted you to know this series is not just one person speaking. (NT) -- Challenging logic isn't being mean- it's intellectual and inquisitive, 11/05/13 Tue
• I wish I had done smaller Mrs/Ms pageants before jumping into the International system. State level advertising 'No pageant experience needed', but to do well in the system, you must have experience or connections. As it is, I have spent tons of time and money which makes not making the top 15 a bigger disappointment than not placing in a smaller pageant that I was not heavily invested. I think my entire pageant experience would have been better and more fun had I started small. -- TF, 10/29/13 Tue
  • I have to agree. Even though the smaller ones don't seem as important, it WILL help you learn, grown, advance, and eventually win. Don't jump in to a major until you know all about it. Sure, some win the first try, but that is rare. Learn everything you can, practice, prepare, invest, play whatever game is needed, but smaller pageants will teach you everything you need to know. -- then, step up with confidence, 10/30/13 Wed
    • Well Said! (NT) -- Yep, 10/30/13 Wed
• I would have stayed clear of several veterans in my state as they thrive on drama and I would have just kept to myself more. -- Sad but true, 11/03/13 Sun
  • Me too! I would have just had fun and walked away. The clicks are like mean girls. And they are adult women, pathetic! -- Glad to be done!, 11/04/13 Mon
• Re: If you could go back: -- pageant fan, 01/30/14 Thu
• I would tell myself to enjoy it. I had such a great time, met great women and though I didn't win it was just an all-around wonderful experience. -- Northwesterner, 02/01/14 Sat
• Get a coach, focus the why your are doing this, keep to yourself, don't worry so much about appearances until you win, and stay away from the veterans(ESPECIALLY IF YOU WIN)! My state has the Clicks of Pain....they are mean and backstabbing. -- :), 02/03/14 Mon
• I would listen to the input of others who have competed - research research research the system (from State Director to National). (NT) -- This would have saved me lots of $ and I would have RUN from Mrs. A., 02/03/14 Mon
  • As well as Mrs. Continental (which is now International). (NT) -- Live and Learn! ;), 02/03/14 Mon
• An organized director is worth her weight in gold. Research and find a good director because that will help ensure a good experience regardless of the outcome. Practice interview every single day for months. -- Love crowns, 02/04/14 Tue
  • are there any left? Please tell us who is organized and I'll enter right away. -- seriously!, 02/13/14 Thu
    • Depends on your state! -- We USED to have one now all is lost in all systems in our state!, 02/13/14 Thu
• I would be more critical of my team : -- No Name, 02/08/14 Sat
• Look for a director who actually tries to line up appearances for her court, at least one a year. I know of a few that claim to be "national" pageants where the director crowns her court, then doesn't see them until the next year. I mean, if nothing else, line up AT LEAST ONE appearance for your court so that you can get everyone together at least once during their year. -- Sick and tired of directors that are in it only for the money, 03/02/14 Sun
  • Wish I could go back with that great enthusiasm and determination I once had. After 4 titles, I find it very hard to get back to that level of wanting to win. BUT, if I could go back, I would focus on becoming Mrs. America with all of my heart and soul. -- done competing, 03/07/14 Fri

• (NT) -- AmericanBeautyPageant, 03/07/14 Fri

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• it looks very nice, too bad it's in such a remote location -- good luck, 02/13/14 Thu
  • The remote location is part of the "draw". Its a great place for families. Husbands LOVE it. Hotels are inexpensive. And its an adventure to try a pageant in a reral setting instead of the hectic metros. (NT) -- Sick of the High Priced locales, 02/15/14 Sat

• Impressed with the Queens, Directors and the constant promotion! -- You go!, 02/13/14 Thu

• I can top that. We once had a director contacting us about helping pay for her queen to go to nationals right after the pageant was over. -- The director was in serious debt., 12/01/13 Sun
• Its a hobby and I think that ladies need to pay their own way or get it through business sponsors but not friends, family, individuals. In this tight economic world, it's ubsurd to expect others to pay your way. -- IMHO, 12/01/13 Sun
• Its ridiculous! If you can't afford to play, get out of the sand box -- seriously people, 12/02/13 Mon
• that takes some nerve! If she had the nerve to ask you and make you feel guilty, you need to give it back to her and tell her "you'll donate to her if she donates to you!" Tell her you have your eye on this great new gown and if she wouldn't mind, you could use the down payment. (NT) -- are you kidding me?, 12/03/13 Tue
• What do you think about state titleholders using gofundme in preparation for Nationals? -- curious, 12/03/13 Tue
  • I personally think it is tacky. Again, if you can't afford to play, don't play. It isn't like you are trying to raise money for a good cause.You are literally trying to raise money for a MRS pageant that nobody outside of the pageant world cares about. -- Just my opinion though., 12/04/13 Wed
    • have to agree. No one cares and generally respects pageants, let alone want to contribute to the cause. It's rather humiliating to see girls asking for funds and worse when no one is donating. Wouldn't want my name on one. -- no thanks, 12/04/13 Wed
• I understand going to a business and asking for money if you have been an excellent customer. However, to ask family and friends for money so that you can do a pageant is disgraceful. It is indicative of our Obama society, if I can't afford it, somebody else should pay my way because I want it. No respect for what other people have earned for themselves. Even if somebody else got their money by pure luck, that does not mean that you are entitled to any of it. To think otherwise shows that you lack character. Time to learn the good old American Way, bust your butt and earn it yourself. (NT) -- Earn it on your own, 12/05/13 Thu
  • I can see both sides to this. A lot of women especially those new to pageantry believe its acceptable to ask individuals for sponsorship since directors encourage it (quite a bit) when they tell how much it cost to enter the pageant. On almost every website application form right after the fee amount is a blurb about getting family and friends to pay it so for this to stop the directors need to stop saying its the normal way to raise the funds. (NT) -- long time pageant gal, 12/05/13 Thu
    • This is VERY true. That was the first thing I was told when I started doing pageants and I continue to see directors tell contestants that today. I also notice that when listing the contestant's sponsors in the program book, the director doesn't even give the option to list "None" or "Myself". Under the sponsor's section, it ALWAYS says "Family and Friends". (Unless the contestant actually has businesses sponsoring her, of course) (NT) -- So true, 12/09/13 Mon
      • It says Friends and Family but it usually isn't Friends and Family that pay. It is one thing for a young girl 14-26 to ask. It is quite another for a grown woman with a career to ask -- especially since nobody outside of pageantry cares about Mrs. pageants. (NT) -- Asking for money is a big "NO", 12/28/13 Sat
        • I agree, that's why I said the DIRECTORS need to stop telling contestants to use Friends and Family. I don't even believe a 26 year old woman should be asking for friends/family to pay. I didn't dare ask any friends/family to help me pay for pageants even when I first started at 19 years old. I thought it was silly then and think it's silly now. If I needed extra money I actually went to businesses, to get sponsorship. Iike I said in the above post, DIRECTORS need to give the option to list yourself as a sponsor and stop pushing friends and family (NT) -- It starts with the directors., 01/02/14 Thu
          • Amen! I know better after a few pageants but its funny to see how the directors do this. I got a Go Fund Me message earlier this week from someone wanting to compete at a Mrs America prelim. Why on earth would you ask another contestant to sponsor you?? Your kid I get, children can't raise their own entry fees. Some pageants are for charity. But one Mrs contestant to another? How do you even DO that? (NT) -- I was so shocked didn't know how to react to the request. what do you say?, 01/17/14 Fri
  • Seriously? Our Obama society? As if women were not asking for money for pageants prior to Obama becoming POTUS. What is wrong with you people bring politics into every.single.thing!! (NT) -- Whatever, 01/28/14 Tue
    • i kind of agree. Our society is figuring out that you can get a hand out pretty easily any more and dont' care to earn things like they used to. it isn't politics it's the state of affairs we have let happen in the US. (NT) -- not that far fetched, 01/29/14 Wed
• I do not applaude Mrs. contestants seeking donations on line such as fundme. Saw one on FB who actually posted a video. If you need money to help support your quest for the crown, do it privately. -- tacky at best, 02/04/14 Tue
  • it takes a lot of moxy to ask the public to donate to your hobby. I find ways to do it even if I have to save for a year, sell stuff, make things, but to flat out put your hand out is really awful. -- i wouldn't be able to hold my head up, 02/13/14 Thu

• The Tippy Tops from Chinese Laundry are the official shoe for Miss USA and Miss Universe. -- ., 01/22/14 Wed
• I think it depends on you. Can you walk in those shoes? Do they look good on you? Are you so petite that we see the shoes first and then notice you second? -- Look ur best; forget trend, 01/22/14 Wed
• I would never wear that high. 4" is plenty, and as a judge, I would be distracted by the hoof look, and score down. -- just my 2 cents, 02/08/14 Sat

• As a former who didn't get a formal farewell, it's hard, but sometimes that's just how it goes. I recorded my farewell speech and put it on my website, blog, FB and that's all I could do. -- Me, 01/26/14 Sun
• This situation happens all the time, there is a lot of turnover in state directors, and US has alot of at-large queens. If I were the 2013 queen I wouldn't take it personally, and it would be nice to reach out to the new titleholder offering to answer questions or help in any way. (NT) -- Take the high road., 01/26/14 Sun

• Sadly, too many dismiss the "F" bomb as just another word in our vocabulary. I am still shocked by how easily the younger ladies just throw it out there like it's no big deal. It's very classless and to use it on FB is in equally poor taste. If it were on my FB, I would be deleting it immediately and letting the person who put it out there to not do it again. But hey, that's just me. -- Personally, I hate that word!, 01/16/14 Thu
• I've seen things like that and think it's trashy and reflects poorly on the titleholder. But unless she removes it, there isn't much that can be done. -- IMHO, 01/16/14 Thu
• I have lots of friends holding titles. I don't hold a person liable for what they didn't say. Lots of queens have friends who hold different opinions and they don't always word them in a PC way. . I wouldn't read too much into something like that unless the titleholder said it herself. She may not even know its up! Or maybe really have read closely what they said. Unless it came from the queen's mouth I wouldn't think less of someone for it but I would PM her to kindly let her know her friend isn't making her look good -- She's obviously a FB friend-I'd PM her and share your concerns, 01/17/14 Fri
• whomever's photo it was must look damn good! -- good for her. WOW, 01/19/14 Sun
  • Poster, no one even saw the photo other than the OP so I don't know why you are even taking it in another direction. I have judged for two of the Big Three and this is not what we want to see when we are doing our research on FB. Sorry, but that is what a good judge does. We do not blame the contestant if a friend posts verbage of this nature but it does have a tendency to make you question the type of friends that they have. Whether you like it or not (and I do not) the world judges you by the company you keep. Tell your friends to keep it clean when posting as it reflects poorly on you. -- JMHO, 01/19/14 Sun
    • I agree! I too have seen foul language by friends and then the queen continues the comments by saying thanks or something else, it just looks bad. -- Not a good idea, 01/19/14 Sun
• I agree; you are judged by the company you keep. If it is your photo, you can delete the comment. The queen should delete comments that contain bad language. -- easy fix, 01/19/14 Sun
  • About the company you keep... (click in) -- You should hear some of the things I've heard family members say, 01/19/14 Sun
• I think you are taking things too far and reading in too much. Competitor? -- Much a do about nothing., 01/21/14 Tue
  • Sorry but I don't even want to be around women who enjoy hearing "you're f'ing hot" from random people on their fan page. Sorry but I love my husband and random nasty compliments are not classy. -- IMHO, 01/24/14 Fri

• so when is your pageant .Where is it? -- set it straight, 01/23/14 Thu
• You need a date and a live event. I will not give you $50 without a date or location. With all of the ripoffs that have occurred in pageantry, you cannot expect people to just trust you. (NT) -- Good luck though, 01/23/14 Thu

• I was going to help, but as I reviewed them in my head, I came to realize that most of the cheap ones have a ton of divisions. When I thought about the ones that have 2 or 3, they started getting expensive. 2 or 3 winners - Nat'l Mrs, Continental, Galaxy, UA, Petite, BoA, MWI, Achievement, Universal, AOM, many more. Cheap but lots of crowns, All Am, US United, World Elite, Dream, Elegance, Essence, and so on. You have to decide which way to go. Easier win for cheap, or harder win for more. -- your decision, 12/19/13 Thu
  • Thank you for your input (NT) -- O.P., 12/19/13 Thu
• Ms. Woman United States (40+) and Ms. United States (25-39) (NT) -- Google them or look on FaceBook!, 12/19/13 Thu
  • Do they have a website? I Googled them and didn't find anything. (NT) -- Is there a website other than Facebook?, 12/20/13 Fri
    • missunitedstates.com for the under 40 Ms. (NT) -- ., 12/20/13 Fri
      • Janice McQueen Ward is holding the Ms. Woman United States Pageant and will launch the website after the first ofo the year. (NT) -- Hope it does well!, 12/22/13 Sun
        • Yes, if you go to www.mswomanunitedstates.com now it goes to my Mrs. CA website...NEW National Website up on January 1st with Inaugural Queen and information! Meanwhile contact me thru FB (NT) -- Janice McQueen Ward-Ms. Woman United States, Mrs.CA United States Director, 12/27/13 Fri
• AOM - America's Outstanding Mom - has only one crowned winner and the entry fee is $895, but there are early bird discounts. The director also just started America's Outstanding Woman for ladies over age 30. Only one crowned winner. Entry fee is $795, but there are early bird specials too! www.americasoutstandingmom.com and www.americasoutstandingwoman.com (NT) -- Competing in Woman this summer!, 12/20/13 Fri
  • I really have a problem with AOM now that swimsuit has been added as an area of competition. The pageant was unique and really stood for outstanding Moms. Now the pageant will be won on stage and not in interview. (NT) -- used to love AOM, now I don't, 12/28/13 Sat
    • totally agree. I dont' think a MOM title warrants a swimsuit. Not even in this day and age, maybe even less. It kind of wrecks the whole wholesome notion of best mom. Maybe best mom in a swimsuit pageant? Sorta like entering US. (NT) -- too bad, 12/30/13 Mon
    • If you have a "problem" with it, go somewhere else. There are lots of pageants out there to fit everyone. But I doubt you will find many without a swimsuit competition. AOM is just trying to become more competitive in the pageant world. And for to say that it "wrecks the wholesomeness notion of best mom", it's NOT the "best mom" award - it's a PAGEANT! And by saying that statement, are you also saying that swimsuit competition "wrecks the sanctity of marriage" in the Mrs. Pageants? Same thing... And many married women ARE moms. (NT) -- Get with the times!! Geez, 12/31/13 Tue
      • then it is no longer an "outstanding Mom" pageant...it has become a non-unique PAGEANT. And, for the record, I've never had an interest in competing. Always thought it was a great pageant to celebrate Moms and admired that aspect. Now to add swimwear in a two piece and say it reprsents Moms is no longer a unique pageant to celebrate them. (NT) -- entitled to my opinion of what I see, 01/01/14 Wed
        • Are you actually saying that you cannot be an "outstanding mom" because you decide to compete in a swimsuit?!?! That's just RIDICULOUS!! and the competition says "swimsuit of your choice - 1 OR 2 piece, mandatory wrap" - it doesn't say 2 piece. That's plenty conservative and respectful! (NT) -- ., 01/01/14 Wed
          • NO THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING...it's what you wanted to hear. I am stating AOM has been turned into a pageant just like the rest and no longer holds that special spot which was held alone. Celebrating Moms - simply Moms...NOT BEAUTY QUEENS (NT) -- don't mix it up - AOM is now a beauty pageant, 01/01/14 Wed
            • But it always was a pageant. That's nothing new. You must have interpreted incorrectly. (NT) -- ., 01/01/14 Wed
              • i agree with above poster. It was just for MOMs, celebrating motherhood, family, etc, and you have mixed it up with celebrating the bod, just like every other pageant out there. That's all. Not bashing, just observing. (NT) -- too bad, 01/02/14 Thu
        • Why do you say that you never even had an interest in competing? You seem to have a strong opinion about something you were never even interested in? (NT) -- Curious, 01/01/14 Wed
          • oh. you just want to argue. one can follow a pageant, admire it not want to compete. sounds like you need to learn to accept a difference of opinion. (NT) -- defending too hard., 01/03/14 Fri
            • I'm not arguing, I was just curious. (NT) -- -, 01/03/14 Fri
• Miss American Beauty. Still fairly new system. Some castings, some state pageants, some at large titles. Email me for more info if you are interested (NT) -- Christi, 01/13/14 Mon
• I don't se what the problem is with multiple queens. A 40 year old shouldn't compete against a 22 year old.Multiple divisions is awesome! I think this post is a Director trying to bash the systems that are getting better numbers because they have more fair divisions. (NT) -- Used to compete in OPEN divisions..., 01/13/14 Mon
  • WRONG, I am NOT a director and have never been a director. Also, nowhere in the post did I say my age (which by the way is early 30's). A multiple division pageant may be good for you since you're 40+, but I have no problem competing against a 22 year old. Your post sounds more like YOU are a director of a multiple pageant and are trying to bash ME for not liking them. Someone can dislike a multiple division pageant without bashing. You are truly reaching. Please stop the madness! (NT) -- O.P., 01/14/14 Tue

• MODERATER - Please remove this garbage! It's not even written in proper english. -- Guest, 01/13/14 Mon

• What I need is a director who produces a great show, runs an up to date website, and keeps in touch a few times throughout the year. The crown and sash need to be good quality to withstand a year of appearances. The director needs to be reliable. If someone calls her to become a contestant or to request an appearance, she needs to answer within 48 hours. I could care less about prizes. I enjoy doing appearances and expect a nice farewell opportunity in the show when I am done with my year. -- My real wants, 11/14/13 Thu
  • Good answer. Since we know we aren't getting prizes, all we ask is an amazing crown, great marketing, lots of exposure, up to date website with appearances I've slaved getting, and a director who tells you the truth. Please don't tell me prizes are coming, or in the mail, or they were lost in transit. Don't advertise cash & then tell me you don't have it now. Don't ask me to come back to crown when I haven't gotten a single promised prize & then bash me if not. Keep your word. Be straight. Don't hide. I work hard for you. How about showing respect? -- had to get that off my chest, 11/17/13 Sun
• Good reputable WARDROBE sponsors for the next level. I live on a small budget and need the assistance to pull it together. Fitness sponsor is good too -- ., 11/14/13 Thu
  • I have to agree on a wardrobe sponsor but an AD page sponsor is almost nice. I'd rather have those things taken care of for the national level. -- Hotel/travel to nationals too, 11/16/13 Sat
• Agreed, hotel/airfare/ad page. Also, the website for the pageant kept up to date the entire year. -- that's all folks!, 11/17/13 Sun
• Real PR support, cash, and a title that doesn't change in the middle of my reign. But most of all, an honest director with integrity. -- All other things are secondary IMHO, 11/19/13 Tue
  • I have had a great director and a crappy director, you never know til after you are crowned. It's hard to figure out ahead if time, I literally had a director that changed her tune after the contract was signed and this was after my 3rd attempt at a title so I thought I knew her. -- FYI, 11/19/13 Tue
• I would like a director or staff that actually book GOOD appearances and not ones that are just photo ops with other ladies etc. Yes I know that I need to network and land appearances too, but really, why be a director if you aren't helping your queen. -- IMHO, 11/19/13 Tue
  • at least you had someone to BOOK you. I had to do every one of my own. It's not Miss America in the adult world. As they say on the kid's toy commercials, "you do it yourself!" -- if I do appearances, at least show them off, 11/20/13 Wed
• Go to American Dream they rock. director cares and the show amazing. dont take my word for it see for yourself! -- past queen, 01/08/14 Wed
  • something cheesy about it, though, sorry. Wish it were higher caliber. -- keep trying, 01/09/14 Thu
    • Re: Just because you didn't win doesn't make it cheesey. Your opinion is one thing but trying to put down a system because the judges didn't pick you is silly. -- American Dream is AAAAAAAmazing, 01/09/14 Thu
• Usually I don't care - there to represent the title and win it...but, if I could choose prizes on the state leel it would be airfare, ad page, hotel and gown for Nationals. On the National level, a budget to make appearances. -- not too much to ask right? :), 01/09/14 Thu

• GORGEOUS LADIES!! Nice card, Pam. -- always great in FL, 12/11/13 Wed
• Hoping EVERYONE had a FANTASTIC Christmas and remembered The Reason for the Season! -- Hugs & Happiness - Pam, 12/25/13 Wed

• I think personal things should remain locked. A queen should work with her director to create social media accounts in her title name. Many women I know have two Facebook accounts. Life should not become an open book because she is queen. (NT) -- Winner's choice, 12/15/13 Sun

• As far as I know, all the Interntional Voy Boards have been deleted (NT) -- N/T, 12/13/13 Fri
  • No specific board because I believe they were run by contestants/directors who were told to stop by national director. Not sure, but ask what you need here, lots of Int'l posters come here and other boards. (NT) -- ., 12/14/13 Sat

• church, really?????? That would be weird, but nice hotel ballroom or theatre is great. Knew a director who once had a state Mrs. America in a Nursing Home, lol (NT) -- ., 10/21/13 Mon
  • I've seen them in the strangest places, but I really prefer a true stage - whether its a high school, theatre, community college, etc. It's just nicer and really makes you feel regal. (NT) -- which is how you want to feel, 10/21/13 Mon
• I've judged a state pageant held in a church. It was actually well done. The church had a stage and an auditorium and the Sunday school classrooms were ideal for dressing rooms, interviews and judges lunch. (NT) -- BB, 10/22/13 Tue
• Do you think it needs to be in a big city? or do you prefer a smaller town setting? (NT) -- Thank you, 10/24/13 Thu
  • I've done a state pageant in a small town and it was actually pretty nice because everything was pretty cheap (which is probably why the directors chose to have it there, lol). However, since you're asking about a NATIONAL pageant, I would say a bigger city would be better because it would be easier to get to. If people have to take a plane/train/Greyhound, it's virtually impossible to go straight to a small town. You have to go to a bigger city, then drive to get to the smaller town and that is very inconvenient. (NT) -- Bigger city is easier for a national pageant., 10/24/13 Thu
  • I doesn't necessarily need to be IN the big city. You can get less expensive hotels their ballrooms right outside the city. My city is rightoutside the big city and it's a great place to hold a pageant. As amtter of fact our state Miss USA pageant is held here. (NT) -- BB, 11/07/13 Thu
• JMO: I've been to pageants in big cities, beaches, and little towns. To me if its a good pageant , people will go. They will get themselves there. (NT) -- Pm, 10/24/13 Thu
  • That's absolutely true and I agree. However, I get the impression that this is the O.P.'s first pageant. Therefore, no one will know if it is a good pageant or not since it's new. For a new pageant, I say go with a big city so there will be no excuse for people not to enter. Once the pageant has proven itself, she can switch it up. (NT) -- Make it easy to get to if it's a new pageant, 10/24/13 Thu
• Here's an idea... You pick the location that you want, and if they want to do your pageant they will figure out a way. You'll never please everybody, so make it easy for you... (NT) -- Jmo, 10/24/13 Thu
• If you care about making a profit (or atleast breaking even), then have it in a big (or atleast "bigger") city and make it easy for THEM. If you don't care about making money and are just doing this for fun or just to get some experience hosting your first pageant, then make it easy for YOURSELF and have it wherever you want. You can't please everybody, but if you want to make money, you need to atleast please the most people you can. .. Business 101 (NT) -- It's entirely up to you, 10/25/13 Fri
  • IMO I'm not sure if I agree with that. Big City= bigger entry fee and it seems everyone wants a broadway production pageant and only want to pay a small entry fee. (NT) -- Js, 10/26/13 Sat
    • That can be true, that's why I said a big OR "bigger" city. When I said big city, I wasn't refering to somewhere like New York, Chicago or L.A,. I just meant a city that is easy to get to transportation wise. I've done pageants in "bigger" cities and the entry fee wasn't any more than the ones in the smaller towns. Also, a big city doesn't equal a broadway production...for that matter, neither does a large entry fee. I've done some pageants that were nicely done for a very low entry fee and have done some crappy ones with a high entry fee. I think the director just has to be creative. (NT) -- Maybe the O.P. can ask the contestants what they want?, 10/28/13 Mon
• Having a pageant in a church has a major ick factor. Pageants are a business, glamour is front and center, and excess is often prominently displayed. Nothing is wrong with that, unless you are displaying it in a house of worship that is not about profit, glamour, or excess. (NT) -- No pageants in churches, 12/12/13 Thu

• Happy to have the Board Back (NT) -- N/T, 11/18/13 Mon
  • Not trying to sound preachy, but because this is a new board, it isn't "back". It would be nice to get the old board back that has all of the history in it. (NT) -- wondering why the 223910 board went down, 11/27/13 Wed
• Do not really know what happened to the old one but I guess the moderator no longer wished to do it. Well, we have a new one and lets support the new moderator and the board. (NT) -- Pleased for the new US Board, 11/27/13 Wed
  • The old one is back up (but it looks like the history is off of it) (NT) -- So 2 boards for Mrs U.S., 11/29/13 Fri
• The old US Board is not back. It has been blank like this for months now. There is no history and you cannot even post., just a big blue blank page. (NT) -- Thanks to the moderator for the new US Board, 11/29/13 Fri
  • Strange! It was back up the other day and now down again. (NT) -- Wonder if there is a glitch in the system., 11/30/13 Sat

• HAPPY THANKSGIVUKAH! two holidays on one day! -- BB, 11/27/13 Wed

• I am also looking for a good, reasonably priced program ad page designer. (NT) -- Thanks for any recommendations!, 11/21/13 Thu
  • Chelsea Snyder Design - chelseasnyderdesign.com Used her for a pageant ad - great work, fast turn time, former pageant girl. (NT) -- Good, 11/24/13 Sun
• Tisha Savage does great work very reasonable. (NT) -- You can find her on FaceBook., 11/25/13 Mon

• And DON'T sell the same dresses everyone else, oops! -- OP, 11/06/13 Wed
  • everywhere, anywhere. Online, resale sites, facebook shopping, wedding stores, ebay, gown shops, online mostly. Facebook has been filled with pageant gown stores lately. Great buys! Beware of knock off gowns made in China, etc, be careful, compare, bid on the resale sites, talk to other pageant ladies who usually sell their gowns after competition! -- it's all over the place, 11/08/13 Fri
• Buy used on-line from pageant resale sites (www.pageantresale.com is one). There you will find national level competition gowns for 1/3 the price. (NT) -- There are many resale pages on facebook too, 11/08/13 Fri
• I like Regalia in FL - they are great with customer service and go above and beyond. -- Me, 11/12/13 Tue

• slim in six (NT) -- found it on ebay, 11/05/13 Tue
  • new me system (NT) -- Miss California trainer, 11/05/13 Tue

• Re: Competing for several years, I'm always in top 5 but no win. -- TF, 10/29/13 Tue
  • Only step away for a couple of years, then come back and WOW everyone by winning the crown! Taking a break will help you wipe the slate clean of any past mistakes, work on areas that may be holding you back and time to develop a fresh new you! -- TF, 10/29/13 Tue
• I'd say the same step away for a couple years then go back but during your break if you decide you don't want to come back, then you learned from the experience -- IMHO, 10/29/13 Tue
  • DO NOT STEP AWAY! you can do this! Is your figuire in tip top shape? your interview must be good to make top consistently. are you competing in the right system for the message you are projecting? what is your message? is it sraight from the heart? are you stepping our of the box a bit? what type of gown are you wearing? color flattering? -- ask yourself the hard ? and you'll find the answer, 10/29/13 Tue
    • agree. that means it's just ONE small thing that is keeping you down. I didn't see it until a former acquaintance was a judge in my pageant, and she told me things about my interview that rubbed her the wrong way just enough to keep me from winning. I never saw it. I didn't see myself. Dig deep and find out now! You can win. I came back and won it. -- don't give up, 10/30/13 Wed
    • Hire a coach. It's great to get a different perspective from your own. (NT) -- Be open to coaching, and go for it, 10/30/13 Wed
    • This is so true, especially your comment about choosing the right system. I knew a girl who competed in a particular system 5 or 6 times and kept placing in the top 5 but never won. But she switched to a different system and won the very FIRST time she competed! She said she was happy her coach talked her into switching systems. (NT) -- Make sure you're doing the best pageant for you., 10/30/13 Wed
• CLICK IN -- CLICK IN, 10/30/13 Wed
  • I COMPLETELY agree with this. When I used to compete in pageants, I worked with a coach. It was VERY obvious that ... CLICK IN -- Choose your coach wisely, 10/30/13 Wed
    • But some coaches are good and worth the amount you pay. Interview them, you cannot expect them to give you their time, knowledge, and energy for free! There is a coach in my area that only works with one woman per pageant and has a 95% rate in winners and 100% in top 5. Those are better odds and I feel very supported and trust her with everything! -- Would mention her but there are AWFUL people that like to bash her success!, 10/30/13 Wed
      • Of course some are good. Some are REALLY good, that's why I mentioned the girl who got rid of the bad coach, got a good one, then started winning. Also, I didn't say anything about getting a coach for free. I said I PAID her and was upset that she was making mistakes that I could have made myself, for free (instead of paying her to make mistakes). (NT) -- Choose your coach wisely, 10/31/13 Thu
        • "So, yes, it is hard to not win over and over again. First, I suggest you get an honest friend experienced in pageantry (not a coach who gets paid). Second, keep it in perspective. GOOD LUCK! Many of us have been in your shoes! You are not alone." (NT) -- Responding to this comment., 10/31/13 Thu
• Where are you located? There may e some good coaches who do not take on everyone as a client. I know my coach actually preferred to work with only one person at a time. It was time he really enjoyed. -- BB, 10/30/13 Wed
• Wrote CLICK IN. I paid for a good coach one time. It helped, but in general, I find I am better with friends who compete too. There are many pageant books that are great. Take the time to follow the interview books out there, most of us can self-train to high scores. The problem is that most of us do not have an interview problem. For most of the women that I see losing, it is a stage problem. Either the walk, the poise, the ability to command attention with good eyes and a smile, as well as putting together a package wherein people gasp because you look good. -- Good Luck to all, 10/31/13 Thu

• was there a clause in the paperwork saying you would be reimbursed if canceled? or, no refunds - no exceptions? Let us know this pageant and director so we can stay away. (NT) -- director is a ripoff, 10/11/13 Fri
• Lots of times there is a clause in the ppwk protecting the director in case of you quitting, the pageant is cxld etc...likely you won't receive a refund. (NT) -- FYI, 10/11/13 Fri
  • In all of the paperwork I've seen, it has stated that there would be no refund UNLESS the pageant is cancelled. That is pretty standard. I actually would never even consider competing in the pageant unless that was stated in the paperwork somewhere. There is never any guarantee that the pageant will actually take place so I'm not risking it! (NT) -- I hope the O.P. gets her money back, 10/11/13 Fri
  • Threaten a lawsuit and then sue for breach of contract. (NT) -- What pageant?, 10/12/13 Sat
    • I'm not an attorney, but I guess that none of them would want to take your case for a relatively small amount of money. (NT) -- Not a legal expert., 10/12/13 Sat
      • It is hard when people post one side of the story on boards like this and on private FB groups. (CLICK IN) ... -- Letting go!, 10/12/13 Sat
      • Depending in the state, the amount is probably recoverable in small claims court, without a lawyer and a small filing fee. Forgiveness doesn't mean letting someone invade justice and get away with fraud or theft. You can let to and seek justice. (NT) -- A lawyer's advice..., 10/12/13 Sat
        • Depending on the laws in your state.... And ....Evade justice ... Darn auto correct!! (NT) -- Typo corrections..., 10/12/13 Sat
          • So what if you live in Illinois and the pageant owner lives in Florida? (NT) -- I think that's a problem., 10/12/13 Sat
            • Depends, if they called you in IL, advertised in IL, and/ or visited IL to recruit, you can still file in IL and hall them into court there. It could satisfy the legal requirements for sufficient minimum contacts to give IL personal jurisdiction over her. Just depends on the facts regarding how and how often she contacted you in IL. (NT) -- How much are we talking about here?, 10/12/13 Sat
            • yes,pageant owner lives in Fl. I don't. Has promised for nearly a year to pay but won't respond. She cancelled. I paid in good faith up front. Venues & dates changed I could see the writing on the wall. She never wrote to us until we asked her when the pageant would be. Now it's gone silent & she is running other pageants in FL. (NT) -- really stupid, 10/13/13 Sun
• That's why I wait til the last day to enter and inquire about numbers etc before sending money. And I use Credit Card so that I can call the CC co if I need to. (NT) -- FYI, 10/17/13 Thu
  • very smart. Wish I could be that patient and clever. (NT) -- thanks, 10/18/13 Fri
  • BEST ADVICE ever (NT) -- Thank you!, 10/27/13 Sun
    • and now directors know why girls won't pay up front. The lack of integrity on the part of owners needs to be recognized, and I guess this is what happens. I will not be paying up front ever again. (NT) -- you try to be on the up & up, and you get screwed, 10/28/13 Mon

• Results are on their website. Nice pageant. Anyone know how to post the photo? -- http://unitedamericapageant.com/Texas_United_America.html, 10/27/13 Sun
  • Haven't some of those queens held the same title already? I get that it's a nice pageant...but crowning the same winners? (NT) -- Me, 10/27/13 Sun
• What does it cost to enter this pageant at large? -- Need info, 10/27/13 Sun
  • Entry fee for at-large and dates for the national pageant are on the United America webpage if you click "enter." -- http://unitedamericapageant.com/Enter.html, 10/27/13 Sun

• This seems a little odd and random, can you elaborate? W/out details it will just be gossip and disregarded by many as sour grapes. (NT) -- ??, 09/08/13 Sun
• Definitely not sour grapes, but I do feel some people who are associated with the international pageant are dissing good contestants to Mary for their own selfish motives. Yes, Mary should be able to trust those who work with her, but she needs to take a very close look at some or one of them. Not good for business. (NT) -- NTK, 09/08/13 Sun
  • That's been happening for years, sorry to say, so unless someone is going to offer more specific info it's just more news that will never make a difference. It hasn't in the past (NT) -- ., 09/08/13 Sun
    • Really? That is sad, for the people who profit off her pageant to not be loyal to her. She must feel she needs poeple like Suzy in her life. (NT) -- bh, 09/08/13 Sun
      • I don't see the need to slander a vendor if there isn't proof, but I will tell you if you ever used their clothing vendor, you always assume they relayed info to the national office. That has to be assumed when you use vendors that any national office supports. Be wise when you use vendors and ask about confidentiality up front, and set the rules for what you expect. It's your money and you do have rights. Otherwise, it's no holds barred. (NT) -- IMHO, 09/08/13 Sun
      • Agree! The same goes with using Suzy Bootz. She will slander contestants to Mary, even though she tells you everything confidential. She will tell Mary anything you tell her and more if it suits her. It is not her right to judge the contestants before the judges do. Nor is it Joey, Clay or Susan's right. Any of the vendors mentioned will use a contestant as a scape goat if the vendor's work is lacking. So many mistakes and goof ups, which are blamed on the contestant. (NT) -- Ridiculousness, 09/08/13 Sun
      • It does no good to ask for confidentiality. They will lie to you about that. They will tell Mary anything, except for what they do not want her to know, which is plenty. (NT) -- GO GO, 09/08/13 Sun
• Ladies, there are many pageants to compete in. Take your time about choosing the right one for you. Be sure to find out everything you can, good and bad, about the pageant and vendors. I learned this lesson the hard way. Do not use the national vendors. (NT) -- yyy, 09/08/13 Sun
• This post is to bash International...check out the True Blue voy and don't buy into it. (NT) -- shameful actions, 09/08/13 Sun
  • No, not to bash International but to expose the nastiness of the national sponsors, namely the national coach. (NT) -- AoL, 09/08/13 Sun
    • Here are my thoughts on this –If Suzy Bootz has anything negative to say about you, it might be time to take a good look in the mirror. There are some people that talk bad about others all day long but Suzy is not one of them. In order for her to make any derogatory comment about a person, they must have really pissed her off. Everyone has a line, that contestant just may have crossed it. (NT) -- ?, 09/09/13 Mon
      • Not buying the St. Suzy bs. A coach who breaks client/coach confidentiality is no saint. (NT) -- KT, 09/09/13 Mon
        • If I pay you $1 for coaching services, then you work for ME do what I say goes. Kinda think that's been lost. I might utilize your services, but I'm paying you which means you violate our agreement if you utter one word to anyone. Means you're fired. (NT) -- my 2 cents, 09/09/13 Mon
  • Actually you should use caution with any vendor associated with a pageant, common sense says they'll share w/the director after all it is a network and if the winner is to rep all sponsors, in their best interest. (NT) -- TRYTH, 09/09/13 Mon
  • Any time someone shares something that doesn't match your view isn't bashing. Ever heard of honest feedback/experiences? (NT) -- Constructive info is best, 09/09/13 Mon
• I feel Mary has a grasp on her vendors' wicked ways. The vendors look after themselves, NOT what is best for the national pageant, and I feel she is on to them. As time goes on, she will see through them more and more. What is so bad, the vendors hate on the clients they make the most money out of. This speaks volumes about how resentful the sponsors are towards highly successful people. Mary does need to take note. They are running off her best contestants. (NT) -- LH, 09/09/13 Mon
  • With 71 contestants standing on her stage, returnees and the stellar reputation International has, I doubt seriously her best contestants are running off. Doesn't make sense. (NT) -- if it doesn't make sense, it ain't true, 09/09/13 Mon
    • In fairness, International has some sponsors, especially the newer ones, and office staff who are wonderful people. However, Suzy and Joey are another story. Yes, numbers were high this year, but it will take a year or two for the negative effects to start showing. It is never too late to make things better, and lets hope Mary realizes some sponsors are bad for business. (NT) -- bwg, 09/09/13 Mon
    • Joey needs to understand a customer does not have to buy every single thing from him. Appreciate the thousands of dollars a client did spend in your store and treat all contestants with respect. After realizing Suzy does not honor the confidence contestants place in her, plus the fact she is cold and distant in Chicago after she has collected all her money and feels she has nothing more to profit from a contestant, my respect for her is greatly deminished. (NT) -- msw, 09/09/13 Mon
• In the first place, $150 is way overpriced for ANY coach. i'm sorry, but it's likely that the director only wants winners who can afford the price tag. Secondly, if you need so much coaching (at that price) to win, are you really being yourself by the time you get to nationals? Sorry, but I would never pay that price nor would I believe that you have to use her to win. (NT) -- IMHO, 09/09/13 Mon
  • What's the average price for 1 hour of coaching? (NT) -- Curious, 09/09/13 Mon
    • I would say around 50-75 for a good solid coach. When it goes over 100, I would say that coach had better deliever the crown if they expect me to fork that over multiple times. (NT) -- fyi, 09/09/13 Mon
      • She is a scam. Mary endorses her because she tattles. It is that simple. Not rocket science. (NT) -- KT, 09/09/13 Mon
        • YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF GOSSIPS! (NT) -- zz, 09/09/13 Mon
          • No, you can't handle the truth. (NT) -- Word, 09/10/13 Tue
          • No gossip here, just the facts. (NT) -- dnt, 09/10/13 Tue
    • I had a coach who charged me for the "Package" I needed. It came out to much much less than an hourly rate. I could spend three hours with him and never worry about looking at my watch to make sure I got my hour in. (NT) -- BB, 09/19/13 Thu
• Here is what I find strange. Ohio's new Director for International is Lisa Moser then the Teen & Miss OH 2014 queens are her daughters? That just speaks volumes for unethical yet accepted practices (NT) -- strange, 09/10/13 Tue
  • did they compete or were they appointed? (NT) -- if appointed I see no problem with it., 09/10/13 Tue
  • Where are you getting your information from? The web site shows the pageant directorship is open for Ohio. (NT) -- They could simply go at large., 09/10/13 Tue
    • TWITTER. Go follow Int'l on Twitter and see all the news yourself. (NT) -- FYI, 09/10/13 Tue
• I think the bottom line for all these people, Mary included, is that they need to get honest jobs like most of us have. Earn your money the honest way through HARD word and not by ripping people off and you'll be a much happier person and feel better about yourself. (NT) -- A crook is a crook regardless of how it's packaged, 09/12/13 Thu
  • You do know that Mary and her husband 'make their money' from the huge company they own that works with the coal industry, right? The pageant is a write off for them. They are fabulously wealthy, but not from the pageant. And while I don't like Joey, it's because I think he lacks the proper skills and credentials to do what he is doing, NOT because he doesn't have a real job and work for his money. Mary, Joey and Suzy all work very hard in an extremely demanding profession. You may be unhappy with them, but they all have real jobs. (NT) -- Not a 9-5er, 09/17/13 Tue
    • A 'write-off'. Crunch the numbers. This is no write-off but a serious money making machine for them-- Director's fees, At Large fees, over-priced mandatory program book ads $$!!, pageant tickets, coronation ball tickets, on and on times 75 contestants, times 3 pageants!! (NT) -- please name the coal company they own, 09/19/13 Thu
      • J & J Energy, Inc. Mary & Mel are President &VP - but the pageant is a HUGE profit maker, make I mistake they wouldn't do it if it wasn't a moneymaker (NT) -- FYI, 09/19/13 Thu
        • OMG, I just Googled J&J Energy, Inc., clicked on the "About Us" tab and the staff bios include: CLICK IN -- Wish I knew then what I know now, 09/25/13 Wed
        • Estimated revenue (not profit) $1.4M. With 8 people on the payroll, taxes, office/expenses, they're not getting fabulously rich. I bet they make as much or more on the pageant *if* this number is even close to right. (NT) -- maybe that's a lot for Roanoke, 10/10/13 Thu
          • The staff work for both companies so the cost for that is split at the least. Though it must be interesting for Hugh to talk coal transport and update contestant pages at the same time! Wonder if he knew this when he first took the job. (NT) -- Jack of all trades?, 10/10/13 Thu
            • I was seriously thinking of competing in our states Mrs. International pageant but after reading these posts I have a lot of questions about the sponsors. If I were to win, and if I don't use ANY of their sponsors, will it really affect my chances at the national pageant? I've only competed in one other Mrs. pageant and I need to know what I am getting into. (NT) -- Thanks for any help you can offer, 10/17/13 Thu

• I hope she (or anyone else) didn't. That's sad (NT) -- Sending prayers, 10/14/13 Mon
  • Not sure why this was posted here, but I am doing just fine. Yes, we had a huge scare last week and they thought it may be a stroke but after numerous tests and a couple days stay in the hospital, they have concluded that I had an artery collapse. All is well. (NT) -- Dee, 10/14/13 Mon
    • Glad all is well!!! I'm sorry someone felt it necessary to post on a voy board. (NT) -- So not a good friend, 10/15/13 Tue
• Why would anyone post personal things on Voy? (NT) -- Not a good idea, 10/17/13 Thu

• I'm not sure who this is in reference too, but I know when I compete, I create a FB page just for my title. My personal FB page is just for my close family & friends and I don't like to share everything about my daily life with the pageant community. (NT) -- does it really matter?, 10/06/13 Sun
  • when I won my state title last year, I had a LOT of random requests from people I didn't know. Sure they might be familiar in the pageant community but I don't really know them. I can see where restricting access to things is necessary. (NT) -- IMHO, 10/06/13 Sun
• So who is the OP trying to bash? Really seems like a dig at someone particular. (NT) -- pretty mean if you ask me, 10/06/13 Sun
  • OP and yes I am referencing a specific person, but that's not the point. The point is if they talked to you regularly, allowed you access to your page vice/versa, and then suddenly restrict you because you're competing against them its silly and childish. I'm not someone random they know me. Was just putting it out there to see if anyone else had this issue. (NT) -- Whatever., 10/06/13 Sun
    • It makes no sense to restrict you unless they have decided to share all of their competition info on FB, such as their game plan, their wardrobe, etc., which I cannot imagine anyone doing. I have a feeling there is a deeper issue at the heart of this with the other person. Possibly, they are feeling insecure and threatened by you but that is still not a reason. There's more to it than meets the eye with the other person who restricted you. (NT) -- Just my opinion, 10/06/13 Sun
    • Or perhaps, they had outside issues that have nothing to do w/you and they restricted everything to everyone. Or better yet, they figured out there is a Voy Board Troll among their "friends" and don't want their life shared. (NT) -- Food for thought, 10/07/13 Mon
• Have you thought that it's not about you and since you have their email you should ask them directly. (NT) -- Not everything is aimed. (Just a thought), 10/06/13 Sun
  • To the OP, by posting on VOY you are validating why YOU should have been deleted from their Facebook to begin with. (NT) -- Your not a friend just a nosey troll., 10/07/13 Mon
    • Totally agree with this! Mature people would ask the person privately. (NT) -- My 2 cents, 10/07/13 Mon
      • Good grief! This is a voy board where you share thoughts and opinions and experiences. This was an experience I had and I wondered if anyone else had it either. The troll remark was interesting so thank you. Seriously some of your responses to a general question make me rethink the state of society in general. I don't care to email this person and ask her because I don't care enough about the relationship and really don't care that I was even blocked. I just thought it was silly given the fact that she hasn't had any issues with me before. Was looking to see if anyone shared this experience. (NT) -- I'm laughing at the people who thought it was worth nasty name calling., 10/07/13 Mon
        • Well if you don't CARE about the friendship, yet you posted you were friends. Hum, reflection is needed. (NT) -- Clearly you HAVE her email but choose to try and bash on VOY, 10/07/13 Mon
          • Sweetie there is a difference between a friend and a Facebook friend. (NT) -- Surely you know that right?, 10/07/13 Mon
            • The good, the bad and ugly about social media. You are out there but I still don't think that gives someone a right to look at your "pages" and come post assumptions and claim to have communicated with them alluding they were friends just to bring up a trash session. Voy can be constructive and informative but fishing to catch hate bait I am just not a fan of. (NT) -- Sayin, 10/07/13 Mon
        • If you didn't care about it, you wouldn't have even posted. (NT) -- Jilted?, 10/07/13 Mon
• I'm not the O.P. but some of these responses are just ridiculous LOL! I think some of you are taking this too far. The O.P. just asked a question, it's not like she used the other girl's name. Interestingly enough though, issues like this is exactly why I'm NOT on Facebook. I'm a very private person and it just felt a bit intrusive to me. (NT) -- A lot of over-reactions!, 10/08/13 Tue
  • It reads to me like the OP was trying to call someone out and then to turn around and say they don't care enough about the person but prefer to bring it to a voy forum? To me its sad on the OPS part. If she didn't care, yet she said they communicated, aknowledged she has her personal contact info just is off color and shows true colors. I see this all the time with Facebook. I am backing more and more away from it. Pageant friends aren't always your friends. This is a good example of why it should be kept to family and friends. People you actually have met! (NT) -- Pageant ladies, 10/08/13 Tue
    • When I competed, by the end of my reign I could see who was true and who wasn't and I have very few FB friends from pageants. Sorry but I found most ladies to be fake and it just wasn't worth it. If you came on a voy to rat out a FB friend, you have no business being her friend. (NT) -- True, 10/08/13 Tue
      • the games women play is rather silly . Aren't we all guilty to some extent? Go on facebook, use it for whatever agenda you need to, but understand the faults, too. Pageants are a head game, so take it with a grain of salt. Life's too short to worry about who's blocking you. (NT) -- ignore it and move on, 10/09/13 Wed

• is anything decent happening this fall? (NT) -- anyone know of anything?, 10/04/13 Fri
  • Not really, a few state pageants have taken place quietly and a few yet to happen but it's just quiet til spring (NT) -- FYI, 10/04/13 Fri
• There haven a few INT'L and AMERICA state prelims going on but not much interest/talk about them. (NT) -- ., 10/06/13 Sun
  • AR, NC, MD, and I think OR in America. Anyone competing we know about? (NT) -- America fan?, 10/06/13 Sun
    • Arkansas America contestants are posted. Do they have the same headshot photographer? Alot of their photos look the same. (NT) -- Looks like a really competitive group!, 10/07/13 Mon

• Because babies in a pageant with fake teeth & hair jacked up on Go Go Juice & Pixie sticks is so much better. (NT) -- Whatever, 09/06/13 Fri
  • What is wrong is having the married women compete as if they are Miss contestants! (NT) -- Hello, 09/06/13 Fri
• Well since this is a Ms. and Mrs. pageant message board, if you don't believe inMrs. pageants - then please do us all a favor and go away. (NT) -- I like to celebrate beauty of all ages., 09/07/13 Sat
  • I second that. No need in arguing, just please leave the board & let us enjoy what we do. buh bye! (NT) -- why are you on this board anyway?, 09/07/13 Sat
• No, I won't go away and yes children's pageants are every bit as bad as Mrs. Pageants. My words for both groups are these: Momma's don't live vicariously through your kids, and go on a diet. Mrs. contestants my message is grow up! You should by now be raising a family, having a vocation, and have stopped to need to validate your youth. (NT) -- Jesse, 09/07/13 Sat
  • Jealous much? (NT) -- Go away, 09/07/13 Sat
    • Pity, my dear, not jealousy. (NT) -- mac, 09/07/13 Sat
      • Um, I've RAISED my two kids now in college and as a fit 40-something empty nester with a killer career and supportive husband with the budget besides, I see NOTHING wrong with a little ME time onstage as well as volunteering to support the causes I love as queen! I've paid my dues to be in this place in life to do that now (NT) -- Sorry your life hasn't allowed you the same freedom, 09/07/13 Sat
• What have you seen that makes you oppose Mrs. pageants? I agree many contestants want to validate their youth or there would be no skimpy attire competion, but some women just want to dress up and celebrate their accomplishments and contributions minus the T & A junk. (NT) -- swb, 09/07/13 Sat
• Sounds like a bunch of self-absorbed women in this room today. Get a life. People laugh at you, not with you. 40 yr. old woman wearing a swimsuit on stage with high heels. Can we say hooker looking? (NT) -- get a clue, 09/08/13 Sun
  • We all feel sorry for you, my dear. If you are on this board and have nothing better to do, may God bless you and your personal issues. I for one have been happily married for many many years, finished with career, raised 3 successful children, gotten an advanced degree, traveled the world and more. If I want to play Cinderella once a year, I believe I've earned it. I doubt if anyone thinks I"m a hooker. You obviously have problems, so please take them elsewhere, and good luck with that and your skewed views. Ta ta! (NT) -- please tell us who you are and why you are so bitter!, 09/08/13 Sun
  • If it is so bad, WHY ARE YOU ON THIS BOARD? Not sure your point? This is a hobby that is fun and fulfilling to many. Nobody on here CARES if people like it or not. It isn't for anything more then the pure fun of competition. You must be very curious or you would spend YOUR time raising YOUR children and not lurking the internet to be a bully on Voy Boards! (NT) -- Loving the fun in pageantry! And the gifts too!, 09/09/13 Mon
  • But a 40 year old man still playing football is okay, right? (NT) -- Can we say narrow minded and chavenistic?, 09/12/13 Thu
• OP, how would you feel about an over 40 pageant with interview including community service, volunteerism, accompishments considered, on stage presentation of charity work and on stage question, personal selection of opening number attire which will be judged, and evening gown competition. Women over 40 will be classy and not given a chance to be anything but. Would you think this sort of pageant good for ladies over 40? (NT) -- curious, 09/08/13 Sun
  • I wonder if the O.P will answer you. She/he probably doesn't know how to respond to a civil and kind reply! LOL (NT) -- Still waiting for the response, 09/09/13 Mon
• I will respond in a civil manner. I believe that pageantry for married women is silly. I can't find a better word that that. Pageants should be for single girls between 13-28. I detest childrens pageants as well but for very different reasons. Pageantry is a sport. Just like baseball when a player reaches a certain age it should be time to retire. My advice? Ladies as you approach 30 years of age hang up your tiara's and sashes and move on to more lotier goals. (NT) -- OP, 09/09/13 Mon
  • NO WAY!!! Married woman have soooo much to offer!!! Ladies, keep doing what you're doing. Making a difference for others and being wonderful role models. I am a Mrs. 4-time titleholder and people, epecially married women and so does my husband, LOVE IT! (NT) -- keeping the heels shinning, 09/09/13 Mon
    • Because life stops when you turn 30. When the hell did 30 become old anyways. Please just go away. (NT) -- You grade A idiot., 09/09/13 Mon
      • Tell Mrs World that! April has done MORE for her cause and research for RP then she ever could have as a young lady. Women have more maturity and direction after 30 and want to be advocates for their causes. You are alone in your thinking because if you were not there wouldn't be any sponsors and support for these ladies! Keep up the cause ladies! One bad apple won't spoil the whole bunch girl...teehee...showing my age and loving it! (NT) -- :), 09/09/13 Mon
      • No one said LIFE STOPS when your 30 you IDIOT! Just saying more important things for an adult woman to do then playing "pageant dress up" and trying to validate it with flimsy reasoning. (NT) -- GROW UP, 09/09/13 Mon
        • I think Mrs pageants are okay as long as the emphasis is shifted away from the criteria Teen and Miss pageants look for and toward mature critteria. (NT) -- me, 09/09/13 Mon
          • stay tuned! will be announced in Jult 2014! (NT) -- the Mrs pageant everyone is asking for., 09/09/13 Mon
            • Oh GEEZ, JUST THE WORLD DOESN'T NEED IS ANOTHER FREEKIN MRS. PAGEANT! (NT) -- STOP THE INSANITY, 09/09/13 Mon
        • You really are mean! Please leave the board. We get it, you don't like pageants for Married women....go lurk somewhere else. Your negativity and name calling is getting old! (NT) -- Debating is one thing, being rude is over the top!, 09/09/13 Mon
  • Loftier goals? Like going out of your way to belittle a group of women on an anonymous message board for their hobby? Most of these are professional women with careers, this is just something they do to blow off steam and have some girl time. Get over yourself. (NT) -- Who are you to decide how other adults spend their free time?, 09/26/13 Thu
• You know, this is really interesting. When I was single and in my 20's, I always dreamed of being Mrs America one day after I got married. I competed in Miss pageants during that time but Mrs America excited me the most. I hate to admit this but now, CLICK IN -- The O.P. is rude but..., 09/10/13 Tue
  • Mrs America is a really fun experience. You don't have to go TELL THE WORLD you are Mrs State if you don't want to...just run, support the director and the program and have a great time at Nationals. They really are family and treat you well! -- My opinion! There are 50 others that don't think they are silly!, 09/10/13 Tue
  • Girl, won my first pageat at 50! and 4 more since. and have done wonderful things for wonderful people with the power of the crown. age has nothing to do with pageantry, Passion, heart, and wanting to make a difference in the lives of others is the core. -- become a crowned Mrs., 09/12/13 Thu
  • and as you get older, your kids are gone, your career is fulfilled, your bucket list is shorter, you look for another stimulating challenge & ways to help your community. A crown opens doors, is fun, and lets you meet others you may never have known otherwise. click -- i find it stimulating, not degrading, 09/13/13 Fri
  • Thanks for your perspective, ladies. Like I said, I'm still undecided. I love pageantry...but I don't know. If I do decide to compete again, it'll more than likely be early in my marriage (the first few years). But hey, who knows what the future may hold! (NT) -- 31 Year old, 09/13/13 Fri
    • perfect age for Mrs. America. (NT) -- just sayin', 09/13/13 Fri
      • Click in! -- Just an old 44 year old pageant lady (:-)), 09/27/13 Fri
        • YEA! click in got it right! -- way to go., 09/29/13 Sun
        • You know what? I thought the person who started this post was a man. For some reason, I never once thought it was a woman. LOL (NT) -- 31 year old, 09/30/13 Mon
          • Re: Ha! if it's a man on here must be Billy Hall again bored. (NT) -- Mrs. pageants Rock, 10/01/13 Tue
            • No, it wouldn't be Bill Hall. Bill advocates for married women to compete even if he's bored....lol (NT) -- Love my Billy Boy, 10/01/13 Tue
              • What is Bill's connection to pageants? I have one of his interview dvd's and couldn't help but wonder 'who the heck is this guy & why should I listen to him??' (NT) -- Just curious, 10/03/13 Thu
                • Bigtime judge, and a very decent guy. But don't listen to him, listen to his winners. (NT) -- Let them tell you what a huge supporter he is!, 10/03/13 Thu

• wearing an absolutely terrible wardrobe thinking I was cute. -- NOT, but still placed. Can we say INTERVIEW, 09/20/13 Fri
• I was judging a state National American Miss pageant. They didn't keep judges all on one floor. I was on my way to dinner and there was a contestant 4 doors down from my room that was right by the door and talking about "those d*** stupid judges." I recognised the voice-and interview was the next day. You can guess the rest!! -- No Name, 09/21/13 Sat
  • If I were a judge I would have told all of the other judges and sunk that bitch's chances like the Titanic. -- renee, 09/29/13 Sun
• I"ve made a million of them. That's what keeps me going. Wearing shoes I thought I could walk in but couldn't. Not trying on my gown before the contest. Getting angry at a judges question when it was only to see my reaction. Embarrassing? My shoe came off on stage, and then my earring fell off. What can you do?! It happens to the best of us. -- great stuff, 09/22/13 Sun
• To be honest, I never think any of it is silly because I learn from it, but I will say that all things combined, pageantry is silly and amounts to nothing in the real world. -- IMHO, 10/01/13 Tue
• Re: Walking out to dinner only to have someone notice that the back slit in my dress had not been sewn up correct and my whole back end was hanging out..Thank God for good people and safety pins -- Had Fun, 10/01/13 Tue

• I don't care for the photos. I miss the elegance and glamour of years past. -- JMHO, 09/24/13 Tue
  • Me too! they do lack elegance and class...too sexy. Guess this is the direction the pageant is going in. -- America wins again!, 09/24/13 Tue
• I think for the Mrs. it's edgy and cool, but she isn't wearing her crown on the front page, I love that crown and want to see it! The teen and miss are definitely not my favorites and seem to push the "more skin" issue. More skin isn't always pretty/sexy. -- IMHO, 09/25/13 Wed
• Oh I love it, it's nice to see something different -- cool, 09/29/13 Sun

• Mrs Delmarva is late December if your on the East Coast -- Very prestigious system in the VA/DE/MD area, 09/23/13 Mon
  • Sorry...November! -- Its around the 17th, 09/23/13 Mon
• Re: Are there any GREAT Ms/Mrs pageants that happen between Nov-March? -- Not good ones, 09/26/13 Thu
• No, all the big ones cater to the mothers with kids, or teachers who get summers off. It's really unfair to the rest of us. Summer is my busy time, and yet I don't have a choice. Wish someone would do something great in the fall or spring instead. -- tired of traveling in the summer, 09/26/13 Thu

• Wear both proudly!!!! Have fun! -- Former, 09/11/13 Wed
• I say just sash. It's about Miss America, not you. Let Miss America have her day -- IMHO, 09/12/13 Thu
• Actually MAO is fussy about that. At Locals and state pageants they ask you to remove your crown, but convention hall is pretty big. I can't see them chasing you down. -- BB, 09/12/13 Thu
• I have gone for many years and sash is ok but the only crowns I've seen are MAOT. -- Have fun, 09/12/13 Thu
• When I went to one of the MA pageants in Atlantic City, there were tons of crowns and sashes from other systems, but mostly on little girls. I would feel silly as an adult walking in with a crown. (NT) -- Just my opinion., 09/12/13 Thu
  • I would not feel silly. I would feel very proud to wear my sash over my heart and my crown on my head. (NT) -- Wear your regalia proudly at any age., 09/12/13 Thu
• I've always heard that you do not wear your crown to an event where another queen reigns. (NT) -- Sash Only, 09/12/13 Thu
• I've been to several Miss Amierca National pageants and everyone wears crowns and banners. As to respect the reigining queen, that would only be for a dinner or private event, then yes, that is correct, you do not wear your crown, banner only. But attending Miss America, Miss USA, etc. wear proudly your banner and crown whatever your age is! You've worked hard for this title! -- Involved in pageantry 35 years, 09/13/13 Fri
  • Crown/Sash if you are 20 and under but Mrs/Ms ladies look ridiculous at Miss America. -- IMHO, 09/14/13 Sat
    • cannot imagin why. -- proudly wearing mine!, 09/14/13 Sat
      • Re: cannot imagin why. -- toi, 09/17/13 Tue
• Was at Miss America and LOVED seeing our older titleholders proudly wearing their regalia!!!! -- KEEP IT GOING LADIES, 09/17/13 Tue
  • I was there too and seriously, some ladies just looked tacky. Oh it was a sight to see -- Not good, 09/17/13 Tue
    • OMG I thought the same thing!!! It was hysterical -- Really, 09/20/13 Fri

• I tend to avoid any pageant with all that drama -- usually has some basis of truth, even most of it may be farfetched, 08/21/13 Wed
• Avoid. I don't want or need that kind of drama. -- Northwesterner, 08/21/13 Wed
• I too tend to avoid any pageant (even if it's a big 3) if there are contestants or directors trolling on the boards. It just speaks volumes as to the level of behavior that the ladies will have at the pageant. -- IMHO, 08/21/13 Wed
• I get really turned off by repeated postings by directors for their pageant. If I want to find out more I will go to your website, FB, twitter, Instagram, Vine, blog and more but I don't think you should be advertising on gossip boards. That just tells me you're trolling for your own dirt or are keeping a thumb on chatter that might be about you. -- Sorry but I don't like it, 08/30/13 Fri
• Could not agree more! One system is moderating one board and that same system has constant crazy comments on another board. Then the director makes updates on the board they moderate- it is just too much. I like to enjoy pageantry. Just enjoy it. I don't want to sign up for drama. I won't say the system's initials, but no way would I sign up for that much craziness. (NT) -- I like peaceful pageants. If there is such a thing LOL, 09/16/13 Mon
  • You are so odd the mark with your comment about a system running a voy board. I know which system you are accusing and I hope you have facts to prove it, but I already know you don't. Those posts are being made by someone who is either trying to annoy everyone with the constant comments. They know that they have gotten under your skin so they keep posting. (NT) -- HTH, 09/16/13 Mon
    • another nasty defensive post. who are you! if you are from the system, YOU are the one hurting it. If you care, then. stop the nasty posts. BTW, you are the ONLY one. (NT) -- love the system but someone needs to go!, 09/16/13 Mon
• Totally agree with the above poster. Someone is trying to annoy, and you keep on falling for it. I know they have better things to do, and to tell the truth, I feel that is the same reason this thread was started. Someone feels that they are a threat so let the bashing begin and continue. (NT) -- Things like this is why directors NO longer post on Voy Forums., 09/16/13 Mon
  • I think the posts are from someone closely involved with the system. (NT) -- JMO, 09/16/13 Mon
• I do not compete in any pageant that's advertised on Voy. Just speaks to the fact that the director likes gossip -- IMHO, 09/17/13 Tue
  • I'm going to have to disagree with this. I think sometimes, directors advertise on Voy because they know that's where all of the potential contestants are. (NT) -- Makes since to advertise here since that's where everyone is, 09/17/13 Tue
    • I say get off your butt and recruit in person - seriously, voy advertisement means more gossip potential - to invite new blood into potential you need to recruit new blood the old fashioned way. (NT) -- truth, 09/17/13 Tue
      • AMEN!! (NT) -- No voy ads!, 09/17/13 Tue
      • Just because someone advertises on Voy doesn't mean they're sitting on their butts. Just because a director advertises here, doesn't mean that she's not recruiting in person as well. A true business woman uses ALL of her resources. That includes offline AND online resources. You're on Voy right now, so according to your logic, that would mean that you love to gossip just because you're here. Making blanket statements like that isn't fair, in my opinion. I'm not even a director but I just had to comment on this. (NT) -- Not everyone on Voy likes to gossip. I DON'T, 09/18/13 Wed
        • Just because we are on Voy doesn't mean we are competing either. After what I see on voy by contestants and directors, I choose NOT to compete. (NT) -- That's truth, 09/19/13 Thu
          • While not everyone on Voy is competing, there are quite a few women on here that are or plan to again in the future and are looking for pageants to enter. I actually haven't competed in almost 8 years. But if I see a pageant advertised on Voy, I'm not going to think anything of it or the director. Once upon a time, Voy was the only place you could go to find out about pageants...before Facebook, Twitter, etc. I actually think Facebook is a lot worse! But that's just my opinion. (NT) -- Let's agree to disagree, 09/19/13 Thu
          • While not everyone on Voy is competing, there are quite a few women on here that are or plan to again in the future and are looking for pageants to enter. Once upon a time, Voy was the only place you could go to find out about pageants...before Facebook, Twitter, etc. I actually think Facebook is a lot worse! But that's just my opinion. (NT) -- Lets agree to disagree, 09/19/13 Thu
          • Somehow, this posted twice. Sorry (NT) -- Oops, double post, 09/19/13 Thu

• Who are the directors? -- interest, 08/07/13 Wed
  • Her name is Amy you can contact her @ speakoutdv@yahoo.com -- signing up., 08/07/13 Wed
    • Amy Pluedmon....she competed with me at BOA. Really sweet lady and lots of fun. Very passionate about her platform (NT) -- Joy in AL, 08/13/13 Tue
      • LOL Oh hell no. This woman has a hell of reputaion in Oregon. She was an at large titleholder I recall and I remember her prancing arond a nam pageant her kid was in while wearing her at large mrs title. Everyone, and I mean everyone was snickering. At least let your kid have her moment. If she wont let her kid have it, what makes you think she will be able to let the contestants or winner have it. She is very very new and innexperinced. I would sit it our for a few years and see how it goes. She may just surprise the heck outta me and pull it off (NT) -- based on who she runs with I am staying far away, 08/16/13 Fri
        • Click in for my 2 cents............ -- Friend and supporter, 08/16/13 Fri
• The last thing we need is another pageant system! (NT) -- humm, 08/07/13 Wed
  • Good luck with that! Seems like $$$ is the motive! (NT) -- not interested!, 08/07/13 Wed
    • Honestly, if you can't put up a real website to begin with, I have strong doubts about your ability to run a pageant. Pageant production is expensive but a real website is a good place to start to let people know you have the financial means to bring the pageant to fruition. Also, check spelling. I would have a hard time sending any money to something that didn't look professional. (NT) -- former director, 08/08/13 Thu
      • Really? Professional websites like Galaxy that's never updated, or the BOA site that is two years behind etc... I think her site looks fine and why not save some $$ on the webpage & use FB like 99.9% of the other pageants? She could use the extra $$ for prizes or perks. Geez, give the girl a break... It's a great cause and I'm sure she'll get some fabulous delgates. (NT) -- Let's support each other. I'll be the first to say Good Luck to Amy!, 08/08/13 Thu
        • Actually coming on here to ask for ADVICE shows me the lack of experience of this director and that this director has no clue on what she is doing. (CLICK IN) -- Rather invest in a more established program., 08/08/13 Thu
          • I respect the fact that she is asking for advice. Sounds like she wants it to be a good system. If it doesn't succeed then it doesn't but who are any of us to talk bad about a pageant that hasn't even happened yet. -- Give Amy a chance. I will., 08/08/13 Thu
          • blah blah blah... someone has her head stuck up her "mighther than thou butt"... even Mrs. International, Mrs. US aren't updated for months. who cares? let her follow her heart, raise $$ for whatever charity she chooses and i'm sure women who have have known someone or who have been touched by DV themselves will be more than happy to support this cause. I've seen lots of so-called professional directors do some super shady things. Give the newbies a chance to do some good. (NT) -- Maybe an everyday girl can get the job done., 08/08/13 Thu
            • Mrs. International website typically gets updated in September after the pageant. It gives the director time for a respite and the new titleholders have to travel to AL for the photoshoot. After it's first updated it's kept pretty up to date and they are also active on twitter/blog so that is one that is kept pretty current. (NT) -- IMHO, 08/13/13 Tue
  • Re: The last thing we need is another pageant system! -- Seasoned Veteran, 08/16/13 Fri
  • No, the last thing we need is more sore losers who are crown chasers and don't actually do anything with their title. Pageants come in all sizes, shapes, and platforms - just like a pageant competitor. I have found that new pageants often are just what is needed - new & refreshing. (NT) -- Seasoned veteran, 08/16/13 Fri
• There are lots of ladies out there w dv as their platform, this pageant woukd be great for the. -- hope they see this, 08/08/13 Thu
• nobody will find you with an email like this...you may consider changing it if you want them to find you! -- my opinion!, 08/12/13 Mon
  • Thank you! We have changed our email to americanusdirector@gmail.com and we will also have an official domain name (web address that is not so long) with in the next week. Until that goes live you can access our website at the web address above. I appreciate all the advice and and opinions. -- Amy Director Miss American US, 08/12/13 Mon
    • Re: Sounds like a great pageant. -- Going to have to follow/join, 08/15/13 Thu
      • so this is just for girls and up to 24?. -- i was hoping for more, 08/22/13 Thu
        • According to the Facebook page and website there are MS and Mrs divisions. -- Excited to be a MS and compete., 08/22/13 Thu
          • i'm sorry I didn't see that, on the about section, it only went to 24. -- missed it, thanks, 08/23/13 Fri
            • Originally it was only up to 24 but Amy had so much interest from those of us who are above that age that she opened it up. I sent her an email about your comment she is updating the Facebook this morning. -- Ms contestant., 08/23/13 Fri
              • Re: Originally it was only up to 24 but Amy had so much interest from those of us who are above that age that she opened it up. I sent her an email about your comment she is updating the Facebook this morning. -- mam, 09/17/13 Tue

• Curious only. Why would women clamor for swimsuit? Will you not lose contesants because of this? I was surprised at the change, but god bless. -- wondered how you reached that conclusion, 08/31/13 Sat
• I would have signed up TODAY to compete in the pageant had you not added swimsuit. Just yuck! -- Mom, 08/31/13 Sat
  • Yeah me too, I had taken a year off of pageants and was actually looking at this one and then they add swimsuit? Lost me, but I'm sure there will be plenty of ladies that want it. -- good luck, 08/31/13 Sat
• That's a bummer -- ., 08/31/13 Sat
• most moms don't have time to get in swimsuit shape, sure, some do, some are high maintenance, but most women at this stage don't want the stress of worrying about how their legs will show on stage. If it's about being the best mom in the country, why do you feel the need to show off the thighs? It seems like no matter what great ideas the pageant has when it starts, and what it wants to highlight, it turns into a bathing suit competition, like Mrs United States. -- but if everyone wants this, I guess others need to forget it, 09/02/13 Mon
• Really? I think the ladies who are obsessed with fitness are trying to eliminate women who do not share their obsession. Moms in swimsuits? What message is it sending to our daughters? I am ready for a pageant that truly promotes beauty, elegance, accomplishments and healthy living that does not require "showing skin" to prove anything. The time is now for such a pageant, and I celebrate the pageant owners who are reaching out to real women! -- Let's go!, 09/02/13 Mon
• Ladies, hold on....a pageant for married with NO SWIMSUIT OR FITNESS is in the works. -- will be announced in July of 2014., 09/02/13 Mon
• That rules out this pageant for me. I was seriously thinking of competing but think it now sends the wrong message. One must be thin to be a good mom. -- NE Mom, 09/02/13 Mon
• I'm going to be the voice of dissent and say that I don't mind at all that there is a swimsuit competition. What message does it send our daughters? That you can be a great mom and still give a crap about YOURSELF. That making time to be in good shape is important and becoming a mom doesn't mean that suddenly you're unworthy of anything but yoga pants and baggy tshirts. -- Northwesterner, 09/02/13 Mon
  • Bull. Plain and simple, bull. Swimsuit is all about sexy and sex sells. If my mom went on stage in a swimsuit, even though her body rivals many younger women, I would be embarassed, for her. -- Kiddo, 09/02/13 Mon
    • and to you, I say BULL!!! My mom is close to 60 and I'm so proud of her for taking great care of herself physically. She has set the bar for me to be better, healthier me. And yes, I think my mom is sexy and I think it's great. She competes and yes, she wears a swimsuit on stage for competition but it has nothing to do with her being sexy, it has to do with the fact that she cares enough about her overall health to stay in shape. -- Very proud of my "hot" mom!, 09/02/13 Mon
      • Gross! -- just gross, 09/02/13 Mon
• I'm laughing at the drama about Moms shouldn't be on stage in a swimsuit!! Are you kidding me?? Have you paid attention to the largest pageant systems for grown women? Mrs. United States, Mrs. America, Galaxy?? And how many of those "Mrs." do you think are also "Moms"? And whoever said this was the "mom of the year" award? It's a PAGEANT!! Fitness is part of the normal competition in most pageants. Does winning Mrs. United States mean that you've won the "Mrs. of the year award"? And to the person who said they'd be "ashamed" of their mother in a swimsuit on stage ... shame on you... (NT) -- All for swimsuits!, 09/03/13 Tue
  • As a mother of two grown daughters a wife of 20+ years and a fitness professional, it's just humiliating to be on stage in a bathing suit of any kind. It's bad enough that everyday people think pageants are a joke, try telling them your 48 & regardless of the fact you've got a great bod, you're prancing around on stage in a swimsuit & they automatically think you're either desperate for attention or completely nuts. Sorry, I take my fashion ques from women who are fabulous and modest. I'm in great shape, proud of it, but do I want to be 1/2 naked in stripper heels on stage - no way... (NT) -- I'll take fitness wear or heck, give me fabulous red carpet wear anyday..., 09/04/13 Wed
    • Well, there are many pageants, and there is one for everyone, so you don't have to compete in a pageant with a swimsuit requirement, but then again, you probably won't be competing in Mrs. United States, Mrs. America, Globe, Galaxy, etc. either, and that's perfectly fine, but its not nice to bash this system just because of that. There are many ladies who work hard on their bodies and want to show them off. I suppose you don't like body building competitions either. (NT) -- Outstanding Mom supporter, 09/04/13 Wed
• When this pageant started out two years ago, I was impressed with how the focus was on being a mother and community service. The fact that there was a haute fashion category was fun. It may be technically a "Beauty Pageant" but I think there are some moms who are short or stocky and still in good health but don't want to wear a swimsuit. I'm an older mom, in very good shape and I would enter this for the "mom" aspect and the fun the women seem to have at the pageant, but not the swimsuit part. I hope she reconsiders. -- BB, 09/04/13 Wed
  • When I asked her about this, she said that her numbers have been going down since she started, and the general consensus was that it didn't feel very competitive so most pageant ladies weren't entering. And the swimsuit competition is very liberal. We can wear one or two piece suits and a wrap that we can keep on if we want to. I don't have a problem with that. I wear less when I'm at the beach. And I'm excited it's going to be in Branson! I've always wanted to go there. (NT) -- 2014 Contestant, 09/04/13 Wed
    • Extremely excited it is being held in Branson, but allowing one or two piece swimsuit, with or without a wrap will be confusing to the judges who usually go for the two piece without a cover up. Look at what happened with International. One piece with or without wrap will not stand a chance. (NT) -- imho, 09/04/13 Wed
      • I don't think it should make any difference, whether the ladies are wearing a one or two piece. You can show your fitness level in either type of suit, and really, in the end, it's all about HOW you wear it, not necessarily what you're wearing (of course, within reason). (NT) -- IMO, 09/10/13 Tue
• I can only imagine the reaction the public has of a grown woman wearing a crown and banner that says Americas Outstanding Mom. You ladies are priceless. Don't ever stop! -- LOL!, 09/05/13 Thu
• "America’s Outstanding Mom still believes in recognizing and celebrating all of the Outstanding Moms in America, regardless of how they were blessed with children. What is most important, and always will be, is the beauty of the bond between mother and child"...Beauty of the bond between mother and child, not Beauty of the BOD of the Mother...why??? -- Sad it changed! A program will take at least 5 years to build, 09/05/13 Thu
  • Re: "America’s Outstanding Mom still believes in recognizing and celebrating all of the Outstanding Moms in America, regardless of how they were blessed with children. What is most important, and always will be, is the beauty of the bond between mother and child"...Beauty of the bond between mother and child, not Beauty of the BOD of the Mother...why??? -- toi, 09/17/13 Tue

• It will cost you at least $20,000 to compete at the national level, and around $5-6,000 at state. -- cost, 09/10/13 Tue
  • Seriously? That's the entry fee?? Do nationals include your airfare, lodging and meals?? I hope for $20,000! -- not looking for wardrobe cost, 09/10/13 Tue
    • Total cost for everything. -- cost, 09/10/13 Tue
      • I'm trying to find out costs I can not control- entry fee, program book ad, tickets, etc. and whether or not I'll have to pay for flight and hotel costs. Are the Big 3 state fees all the same? National Big 3? (NT) -- thanks for you help!, 09/10/13 Tue
        • Mandatory fees for Mrs. America state pageants run from under $500 to more than $2000. (NT) -- Former Mrs. State, 09/10/13 Tue
      • I'm disappointed in the $20k post. You COULD spend that much if you buy all your wardrobe new, go to the most expensive photographers, hire the most expensive hair and makeup artists for every day of the pageant, etc. But this is not necessary AT ALL to win, and definitely not for you to enjoy it all. The only people who spend that kind of money are people who want to spend it. A realistic total is around $5k. (NT) -- There's no need to scare off competition, 09/11/13 Wed
• International Costs (click in) -- Pageant Sleuth, 09/10/13 Tue
  • If you try to compete on the national with a budget of $5000, you will be sorry. -- been there, 09/11/13 Wed
• Additional mandatory fees for International: Opening Number Dress/Shoe/Earrings & Sports Attire. (NT) -- Keeping you in the know, 09/11/13 Wed
  • I forgot about those, sorry! Click in -- Pageant Sleuth, 09/11/13 Wed
    • Your spouse must travel as well and requires a hotel room and meals. -- bt, 09/11/13 Wed
• Mrs America STATE varies from state to state. Mrs America Nationals. Mandatory Ad $1000 (sometimes covered under state win prizes) and that is all. Everythng else is provided. Optionals are the National Photo Package $199, Any incidental purchases, and Family hotel, food, flight, and tickets to the show. Plan on, with both, $5000 (that is including the wardrobe). I would say this is a fair estimate for Mrs United States too because if you do not win state ALL expenses are on your own. -- International, I hear is much more., 09/11/13 Wed
  • Mrs United States is mostly all At Large that is why all expenses are on your own. -- Forgot to clarify!, 09/11/13 Wed
    • Mrs United States at large is $1,500. Minimum ad required $550 (only 1/2 page required for at-large). Optional photographer photos around $125, optional dvd around $100, breakfast and lunch is provided but not dinner during the pageant, room is provided if you stay with pageant assigned roommate, and travel is on your own. Of course, hiring makeup and hair stylists is optional. You can get an awesome used wardrobe that rivals anything new. (NT) -- Good luck, 09/11/13 Wed
      • And if you room with another contestant, you room is paid for and at least 2 meals per day are covered. (NT) -- U.S. is affordable;trust me,been there, done that for far less than $20K!, 09/11/13 Wed
      • good breakdown. 5K is about right for US if you keep your costs at minimum. It's the option of getting your own room and meals, flying that raise it up high. Bringing family is much more - but it's got to be the cheapest one of the 3. Int'l requires so much upscale wardrobe and trying to impress, that it will cost you more. America is so long that you can't help but spend a bunch. Wardrobe is the difference with all of them - sides are photos, travel, rooms, food, souvenirs, opening #, training, hair/makeup, family travel, tickets and programs, ads, sash & crown (US at large) (NT) -- it creeps up fast, 09/12/13 Thu
• This sounds about right. After all mandatory requirements are met, then I believe that wardrobe would be the next challenge. Borrow, rent, freshen up the old, budget is the key. (NT) -- Cindy, 09/16/13 Mon
  • Re: This sounds about right. After all mandatory requirements are met, then I believe that wardrobe would be the next challenge. Borrow, rent, freshen up the old, budget is the key. -- toi, 09/17/13 Tue

• CA has been looking great all week and usually the girl that is a stand out all week, is first runner up -- True, 09/15/13 Sun
  • Well, that was a good call as CA was 1st RU. -- ao, 09/16/13 Mon
• That is very true. -- o, 09/15/13 Sun

• WHAT? mod. please delete this garbage post. (NT) -- what the is the purpose of this?, 09/14/13 Sat
• we really don't care. all eyes are on Miss America right now. (NT) -- dumb entry, 09/15/13 Sun
• Least favorite is easy for me. Initials were S.K. (NT) -- o, 09/15/13 Sun
  • Ummm poster, there were no contestants at Mrs. America with these initials. And on a another note, why would anyone start this post to begin with? It's not really a very nice question to ask who was your least favorite. (NT) -- Geesh, 09/15/13 Sun
• Apparently you didn't read the question. Favorite and least favorite Mrs. America. Not a contestant. An easy search reveals their is only one with those initials. (NT) -- boo boo kitty, 09/15/13 Sun
  • Yep, you got me on that one. Still not a very nice question. (NT) -- Peace, 09/15/13 Sun
    • Favorite is April (NT) -- best Mrs. A ever, 09/15/13 Sun

• Galaxy is a hot mess. Globe seems pretty orgainzed, with some nice gifts and events, great production. But expensive. -- my two cents, 09/10/13 Tue

• Re: Which Mrs. pageants do not require swimsuit of fitness wear? I am physically fit but have no desire to walk on stage not fully dressed. -- Gym Rat, 08/31/13 Sat
  • Re:American Dream doesnt have swimsuit. They are one of the only pageants doing live steam too! -- my pick, 08/31/13 Sat
    • But AD has fitness wear don't they? -- ?, 09/01/13 Sun
      • No, this year they switched it to fashion wear. -- TD, 09/01/13 Sun
• stay tuned! A new pageant for married ladies will be announced with NO SWIM WEAR OR FITNESS! Will be based purely on the married woman who is involved in her community as well. (NT) -- will be announced fully soon., 09/01/13 Sun
  • Very exciting. Keep us updated! (NT) -- ss13, 09/01/13 Sun
• and more than one is coming. I am going to announce a new pageant for over 40. Gown, interview, and fitness segment where you can choose what you want to wear on stage. It will be no more than 4 days, at an easy travel location, a crown to die for, a first class outing in a limo, the finest photographers, 5 star hotel, theater finals, cash on stage and a year to remember. (NT) -- so, keep an eye out for some new opportunities, 09/02/13 Mon
  • sounds amazing!!! When can we expect details?? Hope the cost isn't high. (NT) -- carla, 09/03/13 Tue
• Mrs. United America does not have swimsuit or fitness. Pageant will be in Austin, TX in June. (NT) -- www.unitedamericapageant.com, 09/02/13 Mon
  • but it still doesn't have a following or big title feel, sorry. (NT) -- too many queens, title isn't revered, 09/03/13 Tue
    • According to the UA website, there will be fewer divisions in 2014: Teen, Miss, Ms., Mrs., and Elite (40+), and one overall petite title. I don't think six queens is too many for a multi pageant. (NT) -- http://unitedamericapageant.com/Enter.html, 09/03/13 Tue
• Sorry to burst the "revered" bubble, but Mrs. titles are not revered outside of the Mrs pageant world. I have been associated with pageants over half my life, and the public, as a whole, scoff at Mrs pageants. I am my own person and have a strong constitution so others opinions mean little to me. However, if a woman if craving self fulfillment through winning a pageant, she will not find it. If she loses, it reinforces her insecurties, and if she wins, the people in her home town, home state, friends and family think she is a grand stander and will pull away from her. (NT) -- Me., 09/04/13 Wed
  • I have to say screw you! I do pageants for my own reasons, none of them have to do with being "revered" or being "insecure" I applaud women of all ages who follow their dreams. What's that saying.. oh yes.. "those that can do, those that can't just piss and moan"...okay so maybe I got it wrong, but the feeling is the same.. ha! Live and let live... for goodness sakes... (NT) -- Follow your own dreams and let us follow ours., 09/04/13 Wed
    • Like it or not, because of the swimsuit or exposed skin competition, and thanks to the repulsive show Crown Chasers, Mrs pageants are considered ridiculous. Happy to live and let live but do not try to make others believe your dream is real. It is a nightmare. In nine out of ten pageants, the pageant owner picks the winner and her court. Keep chasing it, but you will never catch it. Look in the mirror. Study on all the hate you have spewed. THAT is who you are. Pageant owners know it, and you will never be allowed to wear their crown. (NT) -- Ghost of pageants yet to come, 09/04/13 Wed
      • Again, screw you.. lol I've won and won and won and won... so don't tell me about what I can and cannot achieve. You go do your thing and we'll do ours. (NT) -- Get off your mightier than thou horse and go to a non-pageant page..., 09/04/13 Wed
        • Won anything lately? (NT) -- Gus, 09/04/13 Wed
        • "You d your thing and WE will do ours". Classic bullying technique. Claim your actions instead of insinuating you have a following backing you. (NT) -- llp, 09/05/13 Thu
          • I personally agree with "screw you"...she's not being hateful wanting to pursue her dream, why do you think everyone has to agree with YOU? You're just as much a bully tearing her apart (NT) -- Happy competing (and winning too) Mrs Queen, 09/07/13 Sat
            • Ugh, the term "screw you" speaks volumes the lady has no class. The time is coming, and rapidly I might add, when there will be fabulous pageants for physically fit women who are not into an over the top fitness crazy. My hope is the director will not let women enter who have caused havoc in other pageant systems, will not allow coaches who discredit her clients to the director or clothing vendors who double, triple and even quadruple the designers' retail price of gowns. (NT) -- soi, 09/08/13 Sun
• I do believe when a well run Mrs pageant with respect for the contestants pocket booket, no sexy competition as is fitness or swinsuit, comes on the scene, it is going to be more successful than any of the Mrs pageants, including the not so big 3. (NT) -- Me, 09/04/13 Wed
  • I would have liked to agree with you, but there will never be one that respects the pocketbook, and if you dont' do fitness or swimsuit, the appeal falls for most. They don't work this hard to be a "beauty" without also being proud of their fit look. Fitness doesn't mean sexiness, if the rules are followed about what to wear and not taken advantage of. Problem is, everyone wants a certain title on that sash, and these pop up titles aren't very alluring. I just dont' want to walk around with a Mrs Conservative Pure American Essence United National American Royal Petite Classic Elite 2014! (NT) -- when will someone figure this out?, 09/04/13 Wed
    • Appreciate your opinion, but I disagree. Make the pageant glamourous, great location and prizes, high scores for accomplishments and contributions, beautiful clothes that require physical fitness. This pageant will roll with success. (NT) -- Yes, 09/04/13 Wed
      • How perfectly you are describing a new pageant for married ladies which will debute in July 2014. No swimsuit or fitness and you must be married longer than 1 year. (NT) -- Stay tuned., 09/05/13 Thu
        • You are going to attract some classy ladies with money to spend. Your pageant has been a long time coming. (NT) -- $$$$$, 09/05/13 Thu
        • Venue, please?!? (NT) -- nwbe, 09/07/13 Sat
    • What is says on the sash does not matter. In the media, not titleholders who are interviewed or make the news, are simply called Beauty Queens. Sometimes the title will be mentioned or the location where the pageant took place will be mentioned. This is why the pageant location is important. AOM moving to Branson is great move. Not only is it a great location, many people have heard of Branson which makes for great press, but disappointed the pageant decided to include swimsuit. (NT) -- Mom, 09/06/13 Fri
      • it kinda does matter what the sash says, especially if it's unusual, like Ms Conservative or Ms Dream something. It's very difficult to explain and defend. (NT) -- hard to enter those with a straight face, 09/08/13 Sun
        • The wear your crown and not you sash as much as possible! (NT) -- ios, 09/08/13 Sun
          • good one! (NT) -- I'm still laughing about that, 09/09/13 Mon
            • Yes, my wife needs to find a MRS Pageant without a swimsuit competition because her boobs are sagging to the floor and I can't even afford to pay for her face lift, since I'm helping support her 4 brats from her first marriage because he other husband is a deadbeat dad. (NT) -- oh yah., 09/09/13 Mon
              • you'd be a real hoot in interview, lady. We are now ignoring you. (NT) -- consider yourself ignored, 09/10/13 Tue

• Mr. Marmel would love to get back on TV...for now, live streamed. don't know about world, however. -- looking forward to the day, 09/09/13 Mon
• It hasn't been televised in over 2 decades. -- lou, 09/09/13 Mon
• It was last televised on the WE channel in 2007. 2 years prior on PAX. It has not been decades. -- Facts, 09/09/13 Mon
• On major network TV it has been at least 2 decades. Not talking about WE where you would have to go on a search party with the Donner Pasrty to find it! -- get real, 09/09/13 Mon

• I think it was LONG overdue but it was the MLJ anniversary so I wonder if that any influence. -- ?, 08/29/13 Thu
  • I'd like to think she won it on her own merits. Skin color should not matter. She is Mrs. America, a melting pot of all kinds. -- Love it., 08/29/13 Thu
• Shes also Polish. -- Jenna, 08/29/13 Thu
• So is it true that the new Mrs America actually lives in South Carolina AND competed in CA before winning TX? I thought you had to live in the state you represent? Apparently she moved to SC sometime in June? -- Details anyone??, 09/01/13 Sun
  • Actually I do think this is true which seems like rule-loop-holes run amuck -- IMHO, 09/02/13 Mon
    • Interesting! Although I think the winner is beautiful, I find it INTERESTING that as much as the Mrs. A "fans" always get on the band wagon of "you have to live in the state ..." and "you can only compete once" -- ... that we see exceptions. Wonder how many are hidden., 09/02/13 Mon
      • There are always exceptions for the right connections or the right price. I never assume that things are as is -- Pageant Politics, 09/03/13 Tue
• Ms. America is also from Texas -- add her to the list, 09/03/13 Tue

• Never even heard of this pageant. Any details? -- ?, 08/10/13 Sat
  • I thought this pageant was around for a couple years then fell apart? Or is this different? The older one was great and I was sad to see it go. -- Kinda confused, 08/10/13 Sat
    • This is a completely different pageant. You are probably thinking of the old National Mrs. pageant that was around for two years. National Ms. completely different and owners not affiliated with National Mrs -- No Name, 08/11/13 Sun
      • Ahhh ok, thanks. I remember that one being an excellent pageant i hope the new one is good also -- thanks, 08/11/13 Sun
  • Does it have a website, that doesn't require going through Facebook? Any chance of them having state pageants? (NT) -- No name, 08/16/13 Fri
• So who won this? -- Who competed?, 08/12/13 Mon
  • WEBSITE -- Check it out, 08/24/13 Sat

• Have nothing to say nice about this system or the old director. (NT) -- Suzy, 08/18/13 Sun
  • What director are you talking about because David Marmel is the only director Mrs. America has ever had. (NT) -- Confused, 08/19/13 Mon
• Well he is 78. (NT) -- sk, 08/19/13 Mon
  • LOL....I'm so sorry, I thought the poster meant that there was a "previous" director when she said "old"! lolololololol (NT) -- lololololol, 08/19/13 Mon
    • That's what I thought too! I didn't know when she said "old" that she meant elderly! LOL (NT) -- We'll all be old one day, God willing, 08/20/13 Tue
• Lots of beautiful ladies at Mrs. America. (NT) -- Hard to choose. Good luck to all, 08/21/13 Wed
• I love Mrs. America! Mrs. A and Mrs. United States are still my favorite pageants! (NT) -- Excited for all the women competing!, 08/21/13 Wed
• When are the finals? (NT) -- No Name, 08/24/13 Sat
  • Wednesday, August 28 (NT) -- ., 08/24/13 Sat