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Subject: This is a good example of why you should ignore these comments. What one person finds desperate another finds inspiring. Just follow your own instincts. There are no rules for what is best for you. Author: Be true to yourself [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 10/22/13 Tue In reply to: IMHO 's message, "I learned to compete once maybe twice for a title, more than that and you look desperate not determined." on 10/21/13 Mon [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date I think 15 times is overkill. Sorry but I think that is being desperate. I think you have to realize that 15 years going after one title is also obsessive in my book (NT) Too each their own I guess 10/24/13 Thu It's not if every time you go, you enjoy the experience. If you challenge yourself, make friends, help other competitors, and not be completely self-absorbed in trying to win the title, then every one of those 15 times is beneficial to you and others. There is nothing desperate about that. (NT) -- Winning at the detriment of others and the pageant environment is desperate, 10/24/13 Thu I'm sorry but if anyone does a pageant 15 times, I don't believe for a second that they're not trying to win the title. Of course they are! I don't know if I would call it desperate but I would definitely have to agree with the poster who said it's obsessive. If it was just about the "experience" then I think someone would just alternate between different pageants, every year for 15 years. But when it's the same one 15 times straight, then it's definitely about winning that specific title. (NT) -- I'm in no way bashing the woman who did it 15 times, 10/24/13 Thu I agree! 15 times is obsessed. All that money thrown around and family time? I don't think so (NT) -- IMHO, 10/25/13 Fri Some titles are valued more than others sad to say. Many Miss America and Miss USA girls compete until they age out. In Mrs./Ms. there is no aging out so some will compete as many times as it takes. If I was married and I could afford it I would compete at the state level until I win for the big 3 yearly. (NT) -- repeat contender, 10/25/13 Fri Just because one person views it as an obsession does not mean we all feel the same way. I say that if it is truly the title you want, then pursue it. What you do with your money is your business and as long as you are not taking money from a vacation fund, etc., you do your thing and stop listening to others who call it an obsession. IT TRULY IS NOT OTHER PEOPLE'S BUSINESS HOW YOU SPEND YOUR TIME OR MONEY! (NT) -- Nuf said!, 10/25/13 Fri You do know that Miss America prelims don't have entry fees right? Lol (NT) -- I still say it's obsessive, 10/25/13 Fri They are speaking about Mrs. pageants otherwise you would age out of a Miss. That being said, it is still not my place, your place or anyone else's place to tell someone how or what to spend their money on. I have friends who spend an average of $50 a week on Lottery tickets and they have been doing this for years. Do you really think I give a darn what anyone does with their money or how many times they spend their money on the same thing over and over? Seriously, people, it's none of anyone's business but the person doing it and if they can afford to do it repeatedly I sa go for it! (NT) -- Kudos to them!, 10/25/13 Fri Miss America requires every young lady to pay a Children's Miracle Network fee for every local they compete in and ever state competition. That can add up when you exhaust your supporters after the 3 or 4th pageant. Plus all the wardrobe you are required to wear and purchase for competition. VERY expensive, but they have mom's and dad's to pay. Some of the younger MRS still have mommy and daddy to help them out, especially those who competed as young ladies and never won, but for the most part it is on the family of the woman competing to pay. I agree, 15 times is a bit much (click in) -- Tried 4 times and have moved on a winner for what I accomplished., 10/26/13 Sat God doesn't judge pageants; a rotating panel of adults do. God is probably busy with more important things than pageants. (NT) -- smh, 10/28/13 Mon Nobody said he judged pageant, what was stated is that maybe you are not winning because there is a different path for you. He is willing to wait, some just don't listen! (NT) -- Sorry you miss understood! If it is in HIS plan it will happen., 10/28/13 Mon So it's God's will if you lose, and God's plan if you win? (NT) -- Isn't he too busy for this kind of stuff?, 10/30/13 Wed God is never too busy for anything. EVERYTHING is God's will/plan. I think the previous poster's message was very clear. (NT) -- It's obvious you don't understand, 10/31/13 Thu If "everything" is God's plan, then why are there disasters, violence, famine, etc Yes, I have a relationship with God, so don't go there. I just think it is a shame when people give up trying and accept failure because they use the excuse that God didn't will it to happen. (NT) -- Best to be thankful for God, but not assign every outcome as his decision, 10/31/13 Thu Opportunities opened for me, after my loss, when I let myself be open to him. If his plan for you includes a win it will happen. Violence happens because we have free will, God is there! He knows before we do and is there to be our comfort. He cannot stop evil, disasters, or famine but he can put a spirit in us that help us, as humans, come together in love for one another. You don't have to understand, maybe it is not for you to understand right now. But for me it is clear. Once you are open and trust in his direction for you, love is the path you walk, with or without a crown. (NT) -- have a great day!, 10/31/13 Thu Couldn't have said it better myself! (NT) -- Well said!, 11/01/13 Fri I said everything is God's PLAN not everything is God's FAULT. As far as disasters... there are MANY people who (CLICK IN) -- Maybe you should reconsider what you view as "failure", 11/01/13 Fri so if it's good, then God did it. but if it's bad, then it's our fault? Wow. I didn't know humans could cause tornados, earthquakes & volcanoes, etc. -- wow, 11/04/13 Mon You obviously only read what you wanted to read. Where did I say anywhere that anything was OUR fault? All I said was that EVERYTHING isn't God's fault. Sometimes things just happen (call it the devil, if you want) but it is GOD that gets us through those things. It's obvious you are biased and don't want to see things any other way so I'm done! (NT) -- I could go into more detail but what's the point, 11/04/13 Mon These posts are not from the same person. I made the post asking about why bad things happen if is god's plan, but I did not make the post about good things being from god and bad things not. That poster does have a point though. It did come across that way, I thought. But I didn't say it. Anyway, just wanted you to know this series is not just one person speaking. (NT) -- Challenging logic isn't being mean- it's intellectual and inquisitive, 11/05/13 Tue