While all of this stuff is going on with the wicked one AS I feel sorry for our current title holder Crystal. Who is preparing her for Miss America? Who sets up her appearances? Not the year she dreamed of I am sure. -- ILLINOIS Pageants Board

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Subject	Author	Date
First, I don't feel sorry for Crystal. I think she's very lucky to be in this position at all. Second, as it's been stated already, Susan Shea and a number of other people are doing things for her. Yes, despite all the uproar about Susan Shea's potential bid, she managed to ingratiate herself with Crystal. (NT)	No name	12:43:29 08/06/15 Thu
Judy Sims is helping as her local director and Jared Garrison is her business manager. Why the nasty attitude toward Crystal? (NT) -- No name, 12:53:26 08/06/15 Thu Without rehashing all that was discussed in June, I DO think she's very lucky. If there was nastiness, I think it was mostly directed toward Susan Shea. (NT) -- No name, 13:04:23 08/06/15 Thu Why were only certian girls invited to Crystal's going away party? (NT) -- No name, 13:18:53 08/18/15 Tue Who was left out? (NT) -- No name, 13:52:34 08/18/15 Tue I would hope that at least the top ten were invited. That's the way it's done in other states. (NT) -- No name, 14:12:01 08/18/15 Tue Why wasn't Susan Shea there? "Pay no attention to that [wo]man behind the curtain." (NT) -- No name, 14:57:55 08/18/15 Tue

Why would you feel sorry for her? She has the freedom to work with whomever she wants and no one's telling her what to do. (NT)	No name	12:45:37 08/06/15 Thu
I agree here as well. I don't think she would have won if the pageant had been fair this year so AS did her a favor and to not have to deal with her is a good thing. There were a few other contestants that I believe would have done better at Miss America. She should enjoy her year without Amalia. (NT) -- No name, 19:14:12 08/08/15 Sat I agree! I believe Crystal's selection was AS's parting gift and her way of giving the middle finger to everyone else involved in the program as she was being forced out the door. I think Crystal (whose dishonesty makes me unsympathetic toward her) couldn't have dreamed of a better year. It's a year without Amalia, with few expectations and responsibilities compared to other formers, and with people who are offering to help her, financially and otherwise, because they are clamoring for a favorable position in the organization. Nine formers before her were not similarly supported during their years. So, no, I don't feel sorry for Crystal. I feel sorry for the nine who didn't exactly have the year they "dreamed of." (NT) -- No name, 11:01:56 08/09/15 Sun

Really? I'm from Southern Illinois and ISA has been supporting Crystal.. Just ask her yourself (NT)	No name	11:30:17 08/09/15 Sun
Yes, they gave her the things that were promised as part of her prize package, so as to avoid litigation. If you call that "support" then yes, ISA is supporting Crystal. (NT) -- No name, 13:26:19 08/09/15 Sun Precisely. (NT) -- No name, 08:47:44 08/10/15 Mon i also heard the board is fulfilling their organizational duties... gifting Crystal $1,000 a month just like others formers and Peyton $3,000. Hate to say that sounds like a they are fulfilling all responsibilities for the State titleholders even though terminated. (NT) -- No name, 16:17:42 08/10/15 Mon Then MAO needs to grow a pair and issue a cease and desist letter. If they were terminated and there's no appeal ISA is now in violation of the termination letter. (NT) -- No name, 16:25:12 08/10/15 Mon In violation and bleeding the account of any money that could be used by the next group. (NT) -- No name, 18:21:51 08/10/15 Mon Out of goodwill and the kindness of their hearts, I'm sure. (NT) -- No name, 18:30:58 08/10/15 Mon They gave Peyton $3000.00. They gave the last Teen $300.00 Wow inflation! (NT) -- No name, 21:23:10 08/12/15 Wed I know for a fact that Grace certainly did not receive that much from the ISA (NT) -- No name, 23:47:38 08/12/15 Wed If it's not their job, they're suing because they need money, and this is more than what was given to the OT before, I wonder why they're doing it. (NT) -- No name, 06:59:27 08/13/15 Thu Maybe because Peyton deserves it! Grace was a crybaby and no one ever even saw her. Except of course when she was whining to her crazy mother. (NT) -- No name, 09:50:23 08/13/15 Thu Or maybe because they're trying to make sure there are no funds to pass onto the next corporation because (in their minds) that money belongs to them. Funds given by friends, families and supporters of the girls and the program, earned through donations, ad sales, ticket sales, badge sales, license and insurance fees from locals-none of which has anything to do with AS & GS. Funds they're trying to drain so the girls and the program are left with nothing. (NT) -- No name, 10:19:40 08/13/15 Thu Being "deserving" should not be left up to someone's discretion, particularly a person who no longer holds the contract, but rather it should be a set amount the winner is contractually entitled to have. This kind of manipulating and game-playing is an excellent illustration of why a change in the program had to be made. (NT) -- No name, 10:27:11 08/13/15 Thu Or maybe no one saw her because Amalia put all the titleholders in a supply closet (NT) -- No name, 10:57:03 08/13/15 Thu While funny, your point is kind of trivial when compared to the intentional drain on the resources that will be available for the girls who compete in the future, including Grace if she ever decides to compete in this program again. (NT) -- No name, 11:34:30 08/13/15 Thu Hopefully the new team that takes over is able to recreate the Organization and make it better than it is was before. Then hopefully Grace and other contestants are able to compete WITH resources and enjoy their time, because unfortunately I know many did not under the previous dictatorship (NT) -- No name, 12:14:50 08/13/15 Thu The only crazy is Amalia! (NT) -- No name, 13:47:10 08/13/15 Thu Takes one to know one! So back at you posted, you must be a cry baby and crazy! (NT) -- No name, 16:07:37 08/13/15 Thu Grace was one of the most talented and articulate ladies this pageant has seen. Too bad the board chose to tear down a teenager and then force her to wear an ill fitting gown when her state gown had been perfect. No this is not her mother, but someone who knows the whole story. (NT) -- No name, 22:42:11 08/14/15 Fri Hmm don't know if I would say one of best. I was at spring forum when's he had here crying temper tantrum in hall and bathroom. You could hear her,her mom, and her local directors all yelling etc. my daughter turned to me and said , "and she is representing the state , hmm really?? Not appropriate . (NT) -- No name, 07:57:24 08/15/15 Sat As someone who competed with Grace, she is the farthest thing from a poor representation for our state. She was always so kind and she is honestly one of the most intelligent, talented, and hardworking individuals I've ever met. I was glad she beat me, because she deserved it. She's been on Broadway and won a 20,000 dollar scholarship for her platform work. And you know what? I think anyone would cry and be upset if they had to put up with half the things the past state titleholders had to put up with. - A former contestant (NT) -- No name, 10:54:08 08/15/15 Sat And... I think this is absurd to even say this about Grace. I also know the family well. I remember talking to her Mom about some of the crazy things that were said to Grace. I'm certain that this was the year Grace dreamed of. I know when I talked to her Mom at the Reception they were done with this organization and were happy to be gone and disappointed that other states have great leadership and provide wonderful experiences for their titleholders. I hope this State gets its act together because this experience shouldn't be like this for titleholders. Grace I doubt you are reading this, but you were an amazing example of what I would like my daughter to become! (NT) -- No name, 23:02:31 08/15/15 Sat Scott caused this. He is horrible and should never have been working with teens. Look who Amalia chose to be in charge of teenage girls. Scary isn't is. I'd cry to if he was my director. (NT) -- No name, 09:38:53 08/19/15 Wed Joe Perri was worse as her Board Chairman....arrogant "friend" of Scott's. Another fine choice Amalia made! (NT) -- No name, 15:37:26 08/19/15 Wed Board President rather..... (NT) -- No name, 15:40:31 08/19/15 Wed my daughter competed as teen and thought Scott was always nice to use and gave us advise when asked. We never had a problem with him. (NT) -- No name, 18:18:48 08/19/15 Wed you are defended him. He told girls everything that was wrong and acted like an expert in pagentry. He was nothing of that. (NT) -- No name, 18:26:38 08/19/15 Wed The scott we experienced was nothing like that. His advice he gave at spring forum was so misleading. It had me and my daughter confused to bits. (NT) -- No name, 19:25:35 08/19/15 Wed We were not confused. I think he answers questions and 28 teens and parents there, didn't seem all were confused. If you had questions to clarify should have asked. (NT) -- No name, 13:12:29 08/20/15 Thu Oh my god Scott go home (NT) -- No name, 14:40:48 08/20/15 Thu I'm a mom of teen not him sorry (NT) -- No name, 15:02:15 08/20/15 Thu Well from our experience he didn't know what he was talking about. I'm sure if you followed advise your daughter would have lost. (NT) -- No name, 22:17:14 08/20/15 Thu

As a former contestant's mom, grace always seemed to have a puss on her face.	No name	23:18:29 08/18/15 Tue
I know Grace and her family well. Try to endure a year of service with ISA organization. This organization was never about the titleholders, but about themselves. Maybe if your daughter had won, she'd have a puss face as well. And you would have been threatened by Glen or your daughter would have had no support from Teen Director. And after all of this, your daughter would be the one they were bullying. Anyway, think about it, you might feel the same way. I also am so ashamed of these posts. Contact your health insurance - some insurance companies provide psychiatrict help. I don't know how many girls have an anti bully platform, but posting on a anonymous board like this is horrible. If you have something to say, call them. You noticed that they have left - do you see them around - they aren't even involved with WGN. They walked away - Amalia and Glen are appealing. They are not what is wrong with this organization! (NT) -- No name, 09:35:39 08/19/15 Wed

With all this defending/crucifying of Grace, etc, you guys have done exactly what Amalia wants: taken the attention off her and put it elsewhere. Regardless of whether she was an angel or not, regardless of whether or not she and her mom pleased "the boss," Grace (and many others like her) deserved the same treatment Peyton has gotten simply by virtue of being the titleholder. Amalia continues to manipulate the flow of money that doesn't belong to her however she wants and you guys want to argue with her over who's crazier. As long as that's where we focus our energy, she's winning. (NT)	No name	09:03:45 08/19/15 Wed
I was about to say the same thing, for Christ's sake can we stop picking on a teenager. This program is about EMPOWERING women and building them up. All anyone does in Illinois is tear them down. We should be building up titleholders local, state, past, and present, and "be" the change that we wish to see in this organization. Yes we need new and strong leadership, but let's also build from the bottom-up as well! (NT) -- No name, 09:08:35 08/19/15 Wed Keep Amalia and her loyal friends in the middle of the discussion. They have thrown out everybody else's name over and over to try to try to make others look bad. No one was blamed by MAO but Amalia .,period. Plain and simple. You can try and smear anyone you want. YOU DID THIS TO YOURSELVES. (NT) -- No name, 15:22:48 08/19/15 Wed Personally, I think it's Amalia's worst nightmare to be so irrelevant that no one even cares to talk about her anymore. (NT) -- No name, 15:29:35 08/19/15 Wed

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