Scholarships are a big draw for a HS athlete... It also would allow FU to field a better team in general ..and increase the chance of playing a 1A each year.. No disrespect Lehigh.. but 3 teams in Pa. in PL arent exciting for an FU fan.. at least a Villanova, Delaware, UMass..an occasional Army/Navy/Rutgers type is more exciting option..... -- FORDHAM RAMS FOOTBALL FORUM

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Subject: Scholarships are a big draw for a HS athlete... It also would allow FU to field a better team in general ..and increase the chance of playing a 1A each year.. No disrespect Lehigh.. but 3 teams in Pa. in PL arent exciting for an FU fan.. at least a Villanova, Delaware, UMass..an occasional Army/Navy/Rutgers type is more exciting option.....

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Date Posted: 14:32:55 11/09/04 Tue
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No disrespect taken. Though Lehigh doesn't get too excited about FU either and I doubt Delaware, UMass or a I-A will. Unfortunately, I think you are still missing the fundamental tenet of my question, which is, if FU can't compete in the PL, why will it then be a better recruiter against UMass, Del, Villanova or W&M? I think FU's challenges go beyond conference affiliation. If Lehigh and Colgate can recruit well and be very competitive, why can't FU, since we all have the same constraints. Those A-10 schools have even more resources for FB than the PL. Just trying to really understand it. (NT) LUHawker 16:37:59 11/09/04 Tue

Re: Frankly, if Fordham is to go, this is the time most favorable to the school. The FB program is in good shape. The school's stature will have a significant restorative effect to A-10's academic/athletic profile. There will be some transition issues, like those Towson is facing, but with your facility upgrades and hopefully a new Athletic Director, you can surmount them. Fordham will not have to apologize to anybody - the A-10 will be thrilled to add your FB program. (NT) -- Go...'gate, 17:08:49 11/09/04 Tue
Fordham's problem is that for football purposes it can be categorized as both a small school or a large school (more inside) -- DamnRam, 17:39:22 11/09/04 Tue
Fordham has one thing going for it that no other PL team does: genuine historical stature on a national basis. But we squander this advantage by failing to commit the resources necessary for the program to be successful on a yearly basis. We've been successful the last few years, but there's no assurance that will continue. (NT) -- JoltinJoe, 20:38:16 11/11/04 Thu

(continued) I'd like to see a stadium with more charm than the existing facility ( just a huge bleacher). Long term, I'd like to see the PL itself move to scholarship football, and take Richmond and Villanova from the CAA/A-10 mix. The best result for Fordham, as I see it, is no A-10 football after the CAA raid on the A-10, and a scholarship PL including Bucknell, Colgate, Fordham, Georgetown, Holy Cross, Lafayette, Lehigh, Richmond and Villanova -- a great league of first-tier institutions committed to playing I-AA football at its highest level. Now that is something we can market. (NT) -- JoltinJoe, 20:40:38 11/11/04 Thu

That'd be an interesting scenario but it's unlikely to happen. Richmond made promises to Clawson which will keep them at the full scholarship level & competing in markets well beyond the PA/NY/Worcester Patriot League corridor. And from what I hear re: Nova, their board is resolved to continue playing their traditional football rivals Delaware, Richmond, William and Mary, etc. I think our choices will be full scholarship 1-AA football in the "new", upgraded CAA or stay a need-based aid program in the Patriot League. If the PL was going to go full scholarship, they would have done it by now. (NT) -- Rambacker, 10:02:43 11/13/04 Sat

I know it's not likely to happen, largely because of the PL's "holier-than-thou" attitude on scholarships. The PL should stop trying to be Ivy wannabes. It should allow the full 63 scholarships, recruit Nova and Richmond, and become a league of top-tier academic schools playing I-AA football at its highest level. Now that would be truly unique, and such a commitment would gain more attention for the PL than being a poor man's Ivy League. (NT) -- JoltinJoe, 12:58:37 11/14/04 Sun